The Around the NFL Podcast. Here's a three time offseason champion. Welcome to another edition the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. I come to you from a room that just filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wrestling, and Greg Rosa Thal. What is up? Boys? Hey Dan? Hey, it's all been leading to this moment. Last preview in the studio before we head to Miami. Hey, Rick, Miami. I noticed the intro music cut out a little earlier than usual. Yeah, well, I was just gonna fix it.
Nobody would notice. But now it's just, uh, you know, it's part of the show. Now. Yeah, that's in my head now. I can't stop thinking. How cut out about three seconds? Yeah? You know, um, sometimes you know, when you're doing a live production, you got a role with what you got, and I grabbed an old money drop because nothing else was loading. And turns out, whoever the last producer was, I don't know who it was. It was just someone before me, and they cut off the
money drop. That's a spicy meatball. A body just flung under a bus. Kind of a misdirection play after the second old money drop of the week. But like, oh, that's been a second old money drop of the week. Thank you. How are you doing a lot better? We were concerned about you had an eye injury. I had one of those things that I can't explain, but maybe
anyone watching this hazard has not had it. You get like a thing underneath your eyelid, and it's like every time your eye moves, you're feeling like it's been scratched out by a piece of was hoping for the eye patch? Ye not. I know. This is like the third or fourth person that's mentioned this is wonder you old jeezus, I don't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't walk around with a Really you're that I seem like an eye patch. I know.
I feel like if anyone's got a live the iyepatch, it's not not not good feelings like concept you can see. I mean a lot would need to happen between now in that moment. All right, Well, it's good to have you back, buddy. Thank you, And you're on Kevin's the Fancy's radar as well, the head coach. I wasn't planning
for that. How are you feeling about that results? Well, I don't know if that's truly I think you know, he probably just didn't need anything else thrown on his plate that day, And I did a disservice through And maybe he will remember because it wasn't you in person, he didn't see your face. Maybe Mark Sessler, Kevin, I'm sorry who you're gonna get away like that? I was as a kid as well? Put up on Twitter yesterday a beard did George Clooney say that you bear or resemblance?
Has anyone ever called you Clooney? Not until just this moment? And how do you feel about that? I got enough on my plate right now to worry about trying to get these Browns back to where we want to be. I'm not gonna compare myself to any uh actors, Peter John I think I need to be. I need to get a list of guys and then make sure that we're okay with the same with that, look at that one of the resident Browns fans. And two things, Ceciliana.
Not only does he try to throw you under the bus at the end he backs the bus up and runs you over, but at the beginning of the segment he defines himself as a Browns fan when I was a kid, which is also malarkey. Cecilian is still into the Browns very much, from what I From what I understand, I thought that, you know, I was in the v O booth. I was the next thing on network when that happened, and I was watching him saying Andrew, Andrew,
we might have to address this with Andrew. Actually, now we've got to be very cooling up in the clearing. We have the incredibly real nfil K Networks DNS. So oh he scanned it away. All right, that was good anyway, it was good. It was good that it showed that our show is growing, that Stefanski is plugged in on that. But maybe we gotta get we gotta get Andrew on the horn. I don't know if I want to antagonize Andrew. I mean, it's getting my name mentioned on NFL network.
I'm just gonna allow it to be anyway. Anyway that happens, We'll get Andrew. We should get him. It's been a while. Why are you the two of you trying to why dostaje anything this side of the desk attempts to do in life that has never been am How about we don't need you to get Andrew? What is west? After? What is West? After need you to get we need
we need you to get Andrew. I don't think, well we need is to have a little call to Peter uh, what's his whatever want and just start setting the groundwork to have Kevin's the fancy on at the owner's meetings. That makes sense. It's you know what it is. It's time to heal. Yeah, and we need to get that done at the ord. It went well when we spoke to a Browns coach last year, it was a nice talk.
All right. Mark Brady, shadowy league figure behind the glass, says he is on it, so we're putting our faith in him. This is Conference Championship Sunday preview on the Around the NFL podcast. We're going to dig into both games Packers at Niners, Titans at Chiefs, and then we'll do a little halftime hitting some news. A shocking retirement, UM, A rest warrant is out there for one of the most famous players in the league as of this taping. A lot to get to UM. But let's not um
dance around it anymore. Let's get right into the games and let's start. I would say the game, I don't know. I'm trying to pick what game is more. People are more excited about compelling. What's more compelling? They both These are two great games. Titans Chiefs is more compelling. Okay, I I could see that Packers at Niners is such a great game too. Let's start there, actually, West, get get excited, Titans the Chiefs. In the back end of
the show. We're gonna build toward it. The undercard right here, Yes, he's excited, heard it. So what we'll do here, we'll go through the games. Also, we thought we'd thrown a fun little wrinkle a segment that we're calling banged in a big spot comma, how not to be So we're going to put out what would it be kind of like just something this something that, uh, if this happens to that team, they're gonna get banged in a big spot.
I like to think of the title. Maybe maybe take out the comma and it's more like a nineties R and B song where it's in parentheses at the end, involved not to be sweat? What about all lowercase letters? I liked when that was. Got to bring back that all right, Packers up to fourteen and three they're the two seed, the Niners. Of course, fourteen and three they are the one seed, so the game will be playing
at the big bow bottom. And why don't we start here, Mark Sessler, since you are healthy and ready to really you know, you're you're you're doing some tape dog in yourself and you in your family as a forty Niners family, they are they are very much So You're rooting interest is very clear here. I would imagine you want the family to be happy. But here's the thing. If you're a Packers van, you're talking yourself into a big win.
But what about that Week twelve blowout loss that the Packers suffered thirty seven to eight, and that's almost two kind that score. If you remember how ugly that game was. How much do you think that game plays into this game or is it too ancient at this point? Even matter it's not ancient. I definitely hear people over and over discounting that game almost entirely, and this during this week's analysis, that it it's so long ago it doesn't matter.
I would just say, from a team function standpoints, two of the bigger nose shows that the Packers had this season were that Niners game eight to thirty seven that lost and weeks prior when they went to the West Coast eight that they got they went to that's another way to say it. That's another way to say it. I mean they went and got totally ripped apart by the Chargers to eleven to total no shows. So I
don't want I don't. I don't put too much into the travel to the West Coast thing, except that seems to be the Latin the two times that that the Packers have not shown up, and that that concerns me
a little bit. I think for me, if we want to talk about, let's get it kicked off, how you know, banged in a big spot, how comma or in parentheses, how not to be The last time this they went into San Francisco and both teams relatively healthy, Aaron Rodgers got ransacked five sacks that the Niners defensive line contrite completely controlled that matchup. They didn't. It was. It was Aaron Rodgers essentially in many statistical metrics, his worst game
by far. They just they were completely taken control of up on the line. I don't know how much is gonna change now that you have Kwan Alexander back who made a big difference last week that he helps Steve four be so much more involved and active, and the two of them completely flipped the switch on this defense. Minnesota him in and we were all a glow about the Vikings in their ground game and what they could do with their big plays, with feeling back and stuff,
and instead they were completely neutralized. If you want to have any shot in this game, don't get banged in this big spot by having Aaron Rodgers running for his life like he was last time. Where you are every receiver not named Davante Adams pulls a no show, and you've got the same sort of situation you do with Dalvin Cook where at halftime he has. If you look at someone like Aaron Jones, he's not gotten unhooked at all, and they are getting there a one dimensional offense when
Matt Lafleur wants to be a ground based attack. I mean, I believe the Packers are dealing with some injury issues on the line for that game. There was an illness involved. I believe also that week Blago was replaced by Alex Light. David back Try, who is their all pro left tackle, is coming off of an injury. Although he did he did play in that game, Light did hurt them. You just have to play better. I mean, I I agree
you shouldn't throw it all out. I think it's a sign that the forty Niners have been the better team all year. Are they are obviously the more talented team. I think they're the better coach team. The Packers have been blown out three times all three of their losses.
They weren't that competitive that that ever happened to the fort That said, it's one game in in an entire season, and it's the NFL where I still think the margins are relatively small, and I wouldn't expect anything like that this time because I think the Packers are actually match up okay in terms of their offensive line has a shot. You know, if Bulaga is out there, They've got as good a tackle pairing as there is in the league. They have as much continuity as any offensive line in
the league. They've got a very good center. If there is a line that can do something against San Francisco, this is it. And people say you can't be uh San Francisco without a mobile quarter wreck. I think Aaron Rodgers can be a more mobile quarterback when he wants to be. He's not He's not older and Rodgers. But he's also not Kirk Cousins back there. You know you do, you do have a guy who can make some plays out of structure Rodgers. That's coaching one oh one to
say that previous result blowout doesn't matter. But teams losing by twenty or more points and then meeting the same team again in the postseason, they have lost thirteen in a row. That's a pretty big trend. That's not a small sample size. And the same defense that gave Aaron Rodgers the lowest yards per attempt of his career in this previous matchup showed up last week against Kirk Cousins and the Vikings, And after rewatching that game, I don't
even blame Kirk Cousins. There was He didn't leave any plays on the field. There was nothing there to be done. This defense was swarming. They erased, bullied, and took Dalvin Cook's lunch money. They kept everything in front of the sticks and swarmed the pocket like reminded me the Cowboys front seven down the stretch last year. Everything is in front of the sticks. They suffercate you like a cobra, and there is nothing to do against this defense unless
you're running misdirection trick plays they've got. The Packers have to get somebody besides Davante Adams to show up. I mean Aaron Jones would be that guy. They are very tough team to get to the outside. I do of and I think you hit on it's sort of how swarming they are. I feel like Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw are there on the two most underrated guys on this team, and they're just such a great tackling team. And that's what reminds you of the old Seahawks team
which Robert Salo was you know, came from. Is they they tackle Nick. Bosa hits you, Jimmy Ward hits you, Warner hits you. I mean, Kwan Alexander came back last week. They couldn't really play him that much because he wasn't nearly as good as the other two linebackers. And he's probably gonna be healthier this week. Drey. You know, de Ford comes back last week and you have the luxury to kind of use him for snaps. When they put that for defensive line grouping in where it's armstead Ford,
Buckner and Bosa, I mean, that's the scariest night. It's the scariest lineup you got and you don't have to blitz and you do these you know stunts which the Packers have struggled with a little bit, and you have to communicate. I mean, that'll test you. I'm just saying I think the Packers of a top five offensive line.
So if if if any in back tri especially is playing a lot better than he was back then, So if any team's gonna be it up to slow him down, and I think it's one with a Hall of Fame quarterback and a good offensive I don't see a blow up because I think we also started to see Aaron Rodgers last game especially start to do some things that you know, have our entire newsroom on fire when they watched the way he threw the ball late in that game. I just I feel like this is the last team
the Packers left with out of playmaking tight end. You have Jimmy Graham who was essentially fading into the distance paired with Mercedes Lewis. That was a nice that was that went well for them this season. Like, I just want to see someone show light about Sternberger. No, I just think someone's got to show up on this offense because it can't just be this time around. You've got
Richard Sherman, will see a lot of Davante Adams. It's not gonna probably be the whole game, but you you would take if you erase him or remove him too half his productivity. Like who else is stepping up in this attack? How not to get banged if you're the Niners. I feel like the Niners are the team I'm most confident about this weekend, so I did have to think
about it. The only thing that really jumps out of me a little and I don't want to be that guy, but I will be a little bit is Jimmy g is always he's good for one or two bad throws a game, and usually one kind of pick that's like, oh, that's a head scratcher um last week uh, and we saw it last weekend. And I don't want to put too much on how the offensive game plan shifted in last week's game, because they were running the ball really well.
The Niners were against the Vikings and their defense was swallowing up uh Kirk Cousins and companies, so it made sense to just keep hammering them with the run. But after that bad pick, Garoppolo through it, Seema, Kyle Shanahan maybe went to the run more and that kept working in Garoppolo finished with nineteen pass attempts UH for the
whole game and thirty one yards. You look at like how the Ravens lost last week with UM falling behind, having to get away from their glorious ability to run the ball with a healthy mark Ingram Jackson shredding you with his ability on the ground, and then the past kind of finishing teams off if you have to put the if you can get ahead of the Niners, get off to a fast start like the Packers did last week, and then put it on Jimmy g does he make the type of mistakes that could lead to a pick
six or huge play going the other way? And remember that the the Packers have a very good pass rush as well, and we know he has Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Kenny Clark. According to next Gen's stats UH pass pass rushers pressure rate, Zadarius Smith is first in the NFL at nearly, Preston Smith is eighth, Kenny Clark is twenty three. These are guys are gonna be getting after it. Kenny Clark has basically been Aaron Donald for the past two
months in terms terms of Saxon hurries. His rate of Saxon hurries is where Aaron Donald has been all year, So that twenty three is probably more like a top ten, top five number in the last ten weeks. And he's going against a backup center, Ben Garland. Kyle Shanahan has said, the center position in my offense is more important, way more important than it is in most offenses. Ben Garland is in the spotlight this week, and the last time we saw him, he was yelling at Mark Sessler at
the Super Bowl. Mark Sister's my hero. What is the context there? Well, we went on that trip together, the same ones with all these other y I actually texted back and forth him a little bit, and I feel I just feel like he's very confident. So it's a mismatch that put a bowl on it. But he had all put Jimmy G on the spot to have to make plays and then send that great pass rush after Jimmy G and things can go sideways for that. I do think that's I think that's the recipe for them.
Because the forty Niners pass blocking win rate, which is kind of a new a new uh fangled stat ESPN has been rolling with is twenty six in the NFL and I and a lot of that is because they were missing their tackles for you know, part of the year and they're back now. But it's kind of typical of their whole team. They're better at run blocking. They are the perfect Kyle Shanahan, you know, old Denver Broncos run blocking attack. Mike McGlinchey is maybe the perfect example.
He's probably an all pro when it comes to run bucking. He's okay pass blocking. I mean, if it's if it's an areas Smith versus him one on one, that's a win for Smith. And I think you saw even in the first matchup, even though it didn't go very well, they did throw a few blitzes at Jimmy G which confused him. I do not think this is a game um that Mike Patton's gonna be able to sit back there. They're not a team that does a lot in terms
of blitz is. They're just kind of back. I think they're gonna have to mix it up quite a bit, not just rely on the guys up front, try to confuse Jimmy G. And to your point, Dan make Jimmy g b. I mean, that's gotta be the plan that beat beat us in the passing game. They do show that when certain metrics, when you when Jimmy G makes mistakes,
and he's made a share of him this season. That a lot of times just to do with an intermediary level linebacker athletically diagnosing where what Jimmy G is gonna do with it, and Jimmy G not seeing that on his own. But that helps when you have Michael Kendricks. I don't know if the Packers have now, they might have the opposite Michael Kendricks was a huge difference in that last game, which is a total weakness in Blake Martinez. I mean Blake Martinez got got embarrassed a little bit
when they first played Kyle Sanahan. If he's if he reminds me of anyone, it's a little bit like McDaniels sometimes, where if he sees whatever your weakness is, he'll just he'll just go after over and over and over and over again. And Blake Martinez is that guy. Maybe Kevin King is that guy. And you have so many different guys. If you're the forty nine ers, you can throw at them I mean it's kid all over the middle. It's coleman Or or Mostard as a as a wide receiver,
it's Deebo, it's Samuel. I mean their whole team is in the middle, and that is that is a problem. Yeah, and since week eleven or since week seven, excuse me, the nine or the Packers have given up the fourth most yardage too tight ends. So I feel a big George Kittle game coming because I think you just made you force feed the ball to Kiddle no matter what, on the biggest possible stage You've been here, been in all year, and they couldn't stop him the first time
these two teams met. He's practicing fully on Thursday. The ankle doesn't seem to be a huge issue. It's funny to me the way games end really influence how we see them in the next week. Midway through the third quarter last week, the Packers were enjoying a much bigger
blowout than the forty niners were. They were destroying the Seahawks, and the way they allowed Russell Wilson to come back, now we think a little bit less of the Packers, But that game could have easily gone a different way because well because partly because it's their m O. Forty. Niners have these games where they squeeze the life out of opponents and so that sticks with you. I mean, they did it to the Rams, they certainly did it
last week. They did it to the pack They've had those games, whereas the Packers they don't blow on anyone almost they always make it except for the Vikings. I mean, similarly in Week sixteen, they squeeze the life out of banged up Vikings team, right, but they they tend to make it interesting. I think I don't think that's the worst thing for this Packers team because if there's anything that you get listening to him, and there's only so much value that. I do think they're comfortable in these
close games. They've been then so many of them over and over. And I liked what Aaron Rodgers said this week at the podium. He thought the biggest change they've had is in practice kind of cutting down the mental errors. That's he thought the last six weeks where they're not making as many big time mistakes. He thinks they've kind of grown up in this system a little bit after a year, and you can kind of see that on
the field. Do you think that playing quarterback for Kyle Shanahan has replaced being quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys as one of the best jobs in America. I feel like he makes Jimmy G's job so easy, and I I like Jimmy G. But Roger's best is much better than Jimmy G's best. Speak on it, and that's why this is such a fun game. I just love Aaron Rodgers back in the spot, this huge stage, Championship Sunday stage, and it makes the Packers for me. Even though Keith
Hansas disagrees. I don't like his face. Um I I just love certain guys. Like another guy me and Keith Hansas disagree with on is Lebron Jay games in the n b A. I love Lebron James and big spots, and I love when the everyone's, the whole world's watching him in a big game because there's always a chance for something very special to happen because he's one of the greatest of all time and that's what Aaron Rodgers is.
That said, however, um I love the forty Niners in this game, and I have to say that the Jimmy G. I just brought up the banging possibility of Jimmy g but it's also possible in this game with um Garoppola. We've seen games this year where he's looked like Joe Montana and it's like it's almost unfair when he's humming and you have all these other things, uh that they do so well, the Niners, they're just the best team in the league when that happens, and at home, feeling good,
feeling confident. Would I be totally stunned if they're just rolling up and down the field on the Packers, um, I would not. And I know that you're up on me in two games, two games in this head to head matchup, and I don't know if you're planning to lock up the Niners. I'm not even gonna mess with it. I'm gonna lock up the nine Ers. Look at that, and I'm going to just say, let us roll to Miami. I am also locking up the forty NINERSMI. Thank you.
And when I said this game is not as compelling as Titans Chiefs, there's one big reason what this game is missing is two thousand thirteen Jimmy Graham or two thousand fourteen Jordy Nelson. They need a playmaker other than Davante Adams in the passing game, and they don't really have one. How about two thousand sixteen Jeff Janice just someone randomly steps up Lazard. They need some have the firepower,
They need an MVS to magically become a guy. They need Grontimo Allison, your boy Greg Allen Lazards to have a hundred and forty yards Is this possible? Yes, this stuff happens all the time in sports. But they kind of need somebody to have some type of effort that you did not see coming. I've got someone for you. How about two thousand eleven Aaron Rodgers. I mean he can make any of those people around him look better? Still mad at you were saying that Patrick Mahomes is better?
Well right, fair about how about two Aaron Rodgers. I'll take my point, and I admit it's it's heavily influenced by wishful thinking because I want this to be a close, great game, and I think, like you, it could be very one sided. And I do enjoy watching Aaron Rodgers like you that his career Aaron Rodgers, and you can even see it when you hear him talk, and he always seems to be like searching for balance, like in
life and on the football field. I know, but he really seems into it and and for him, I think it's the balance between making plays inside the structure of the offense and making plays on his own. And sometimes that balance gets really out of whack whether he holds the ball how long you know he holds the ball,
or not to make a play. I thought last week he seemed very much in bald that he held it when he needed to, He made some plays on his own when he needed to, And uh, there is just part of the Aaron Rodgers mystique that I like to think when he picked up that fourteen yard run last week, that was a sign that he's going to use his legs where he had a little bit of that that old that old Now I'm not doing that old wrestling
belt move. You know that he's just feeling it and that there's a chance we see that all time great in the toughest spot possible against the really tough defense, play lights out and put on a show and make it a lot of fun. You know what I learnt it, But that's what I think already brought up lebron Jack Nicholas at the six Masters. That old. I think that guy's That guy was forty six. I think that guy's gone,
and I'd love to see him back. He's away. That's five year younger than Tom Brady was when he threw for about five hundred yards in this good bodies are in completely different places too, and I've well, I've learned anything that Greg gets super excited and hot four by like mid Thursday, just think the opposite, because it is he's too caught up in his feelings and telling us about Aaron Rodgers needs to find more balance in life. You have no idea what's happening inside of the mind
of Aaron Rodgers. And I hear you with some of us. I hear you with some of this stuff. But I mean, we're asking for Aaron Rodgers from half a decade to show up. My issue is that there's just not enough around him too. It part, it is part of what what's around him. And could I see Alan Lazard having an eighty eight yard touchdown in this thing to tie it up in the fourth quarter? Yes? Is it predictive? Is it the thing that we can look at what they've done and say this is over? And well that's
not true. That's true, but I mean, I don't know what I know what I got into that was a year ago, and that's because they were a boring team that needed to get out of our way. They're not a boring team this year. They're They have done a lot with a little on offense, especially, But I just don't need to like wish cast or hero worship Aaron Rodgers based on where he was six years ago. I want to we're talking about Aaron Rodgers. I'm down on him.
But it was like two years ago that he made that throw to Jared Cook and Dispatch Boys, and it was one of the best throws we've ever seen. He played a perfect game last and he's had games like that this year, right, he basedicly that game last week. He needs to be even better. But he was on the field with Russell Wilson and they went toe to toe and they were equals. And if he's that far ahead of if he's that far ahead of his opposition,
Jimmy g this week, they got a shot. He's got to be better than I mean, they they scored, they didn't score another point after early in the third quarter. That was an incredible two and a half quarters by Rodgers. I think he needs to deliver truly vintage like boat level Rodgers to win this. I believe in greatness, and I do think the forty Niners defensive line is is great, but they've they've got to beat someone who's been in
this situation a lot more. Too. Took the Packers to cover and I took the forty Niners to win by four. They're they're better every logical thing. What about Aaron rod the balance that he's seeking, What if he's what if he achieves that balance on a Sunday in Santa Clara, I will enjoy it. I will enjoy it. What was that Dan's been touching me? Erica asked me to touch him again? Was that on Mike or is that just
in my ear? And that was for you? He was like, you know, for those that aren't watching our YouTube video show, that's on you. But Dan was pointing and touching Gregg, and Gregg was just moving away, making these little faces Erica typically and whispering sweet nothings in my ears through every podcast we ever did. Yeah, I didn't realize the game mark uh Niners over a very close Packers team and over after all that it's an overtime. Also, Mark,
you're getting killed by Packers. Fans told us that, and now you're you're backing off and you're getting on you get on the fence. That would be one of them. You don't believe in this Packers two. If you kindly shut up, it is so ponderous day, so ponderous to listen to you too. I've got forty Niners, thirty three Packers. Okay, everyone's got it competitive. Uh, that's only because I believe in Aaron Rodgers. I really think it's going to be more like thirty Niners. Yeah, I got thirty to twenty
six Niners. Nice offensive game, all right, let's uh, let's hit halftime, halftime, half time to do something some news? What's that, Erica? Why don't you explain with that? Yeah, that was a news drop which the audio version contained no information. Well, actually it did because we had marshmallows.
Can I did the Chubby Bunny contest this morning and it's on our Instagram, the A T and podcast where we were shoving as many marshmallows that we could in our mouth and saying players that we're playing in championship weekend. What is the Chubby Bunny party with you cowboys? It's one marshmallow at a time, and then you pull a name out of a cup and try to read it. And it's easy with one, but then Erica nearly threw
up upon the fourth marshmallow. White throw up Like this is like our other podcast we do together, the jsin Lick and Rosenthal Vanity Project area. Every week she suggests us do we do a viral you know, sensation video? And never once is that idea passed? Now you stuck it into this one. Yeah, well, wait, one way to pitch at Greg, Greg, You're so fun to be around.
All right, let's get into the news. Let's start. We have a Tiffany Blackland, I believe, joining us in a little bit um to talk about this huge story, the coming out of Charlotte Panthers linebacker Luke Keigley is retiring after eight seasons. Uh. He announced it uh in a very way via a video message posted online. He had this to say, It's never the right time to step away, but now it's the right time for me. It's a
tough decision. I've thought about it a lot um and he went on to say Um, there's only one way to play this game since I was a little kid. It's to play fast, play physical, and play strong. And at this point, I don't know if I am able to do that anymore, and that's the part that makes it the most difficult. Keikle's twenty eight years old. Uh. He is a seven time Pro bowler, five time first team All Pro in and was just a second year in the league. He won Defensive Player of the Year.
And this was a stunner. Greg Um. We know he's had concussion issues in the past, and there was that one especially kind of chilling incident in a primetime game where he was getting carded off after a head injury against the Saints, I believe, and he had tears streaming down his face. But this past season, he played all sixteen games for Caroline h had a hundred forty four tackles and two picks. UH. So he didn't have any injury that costs him time, and yet he decides now
to walk away. What were your initial feelings that pound for pound, I think he's the best inside linebacker of the last two decades that I've seen get drafted and started their career basically in the lot, Yeah, since I started since the yeah, the last two decades. He was from the nineties, But I mean I would say I would take him over Bobby Wagner, take him over Patrick Willis.
And it's a shame that I think probably the two guys right near the top of their list, him and Willis, didn't make it to their age thirty season, and that keik Lely had everything that you could want out of the position, you know, Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, and that for someone who obviously loves the game as much as he does, it must have taken like a lot of courage and a lot um
of difficulty to make a decision like this. And all you can do is kind of a plot him for doing that, because I think it had to be so tough, and no one really knows the entire story behind the scenes. But I don't think he would be doing this unless he felt like it was really necessary. Yeah, he reminds me so much of Patrick Willis, both of whom I think are definite Hall of famers. They were the best at their position for almost a decade. And I would throw Brian or Locker in that mix as guys from
this century who were great middle linebackers. When I think of Keikle, I think back to our first year of the podcast, when we had the team of a t L and the reason why we did it was because Greg and I would watched the Panthers and come away raving about Luke Keickley and Thomas Davis and the ground they were covering, the range they had. And then you watched Keekley for the next six seven years and just astonished that he knows what the play is before the
snap more than any linebacker I've ever seen. He reads the offense's intentions, and his instincts were on point. I think for me, it's just that we call it a stunning announcement in a stunning turn of events. But maybe it's just because we've heard every type of NFL news story at this point. I don't think that retirements at
this age and need should be viewed as stunning. We've we've gotten We've gotten so many more of them from not fringe players but star players at this point that the long the days of the fifteen year NFL career are probably largely over for players that could have played a much longer than they did. I think that you're when it was a stunner when Jim Brown retired still at the peak of his powers, and Luke Kickley is right there too. And it's not a money thing. He's
got it. He's walking away from a ton of cash if you look at his cap hit that it's a life decision, and playing into your mid thirties as a defensive player taking multiple injuries is not viewed as a smart choice by anyone at this point. By these players doing it, I'm just saying, it's not stunning when when we're gonna get five more of these and the and someone who very publicly struggled with concussions that looked severe.
And I know they didn't announce any concussions this year, and the league does it better of helping out players that get concussions. But I think if you listen to players, I think it's obvious that they suffer far, far more concussions, especially the ones that are prone to it than we know about or or there's a middle ground between concussion and whatever struggles he's dealing with on a weekly basis and in a life basis, and this is a life choice. I mean, I don't think it's because he you know,
his fingers weren't hurt. It's he's worried about his long term future. I think, yeah, I think we need to look at Hall of Famers differently. If you're gonna get more and more players walking away from an extra three or four years on their career. Well, Willis, I think is already eligible and he haven't even made the finalist list, which is crazy to me. Keek Lely, I think would be a slight tear above uh Willis. But you could certainly argue the other way, and you know, I understand that.
But the fact that he made first team All Pro five time, I made a d p O, which is I hate the idea that these guys that get to All pros in their career and there's a decent amount of him in the Hall of Fame, but stick around for fourteen years are everything immediate. It's they're not everything. Bad luck to be at the same position as another great player at the same time, and just because you I mean some positions, you're right there with the first guy.
It's kind of like it's kind of like the Jimmie Johnson and Bill Kauer were two couches that just got in. Give me the Jimmie Johnson, give me the one who changed the game that that anyone watching could say keek Lee was at the very top of the game when he was in it. All right, here's some reckless speculation. I'm throughout there. Mark, you made the point he's walking away from a ton of cashs. You made the point that he's an expert at diagnosing plays in real time.
I will add that he's photogenic, kind of looks like Superman. This is the time with his reports circulating that certain networks are uh looking for talent to be being become a color analysts for a game. I just don't be stunned if he gets connected to this somehow. I don't know if that's even a path he wants to walk down. But we just heard that the report that we talked about on Tuesday show that Tony Romo might be moving to ESPN. I wonder if keek Ley and part of
the decision. Maybe because you can make a ton of money, as we know, from doing broadcasting, so you're not gonna lose a lot of money. Ultimately, it's just a side thing somewhat. Be Lee Prugg and Greg Olsen who I
think has done an awesome job when he's been on broadcast. Ye, Tiffany Blackman spoke about on the network, and you know, she pointed out how he's not on social media, how he he's the nicest guy behind the scenes, but really stays away from the limelight, and it really sounded like he wanted to stay involved in football in some way, and I think broadcasting feels like that wouldn't be the type of thing that a guy who is always trying to avoid a microphone and and being in the spotlight
is down on your theory, Dan, from what I hear, I there are some talk about like which is maybe he would he would be a coach. Can't make as much money as a coach as you can in the CBS chair. Just reckless speculation. As I said, I like it. Great great player, great career. Luke Keigley walks away at age West. Let me read this quote from Thomas Davis to Tiffany black Man, because this is about as as
effusive as teammate praise gets. He was the best teammate that I've ever had on any level, easily, the nicest guy off the field you'll ever meet, and the most fierce competitor you'll ever meet. The game is truly going to miss Luke. That's a great player talking about another great player. And the Panthers is a team we already know. They have the new head coach and Matt ruled Cam Newton up in the air. Now, Luke Keigley, the face of that defense is gone. It is a whole new era.
UH in Charlotte UH. In other news, New Orleans Police on Thursday issued a an arrest warrant for Brown's wide receiver Odell Beckham on a complaint of simple battery. UH. Odell made his presence known at the UM National Championship Game, the college game between l s U and Clemson. L s U is where Beckham went to college. UH. There was the much reported on UM element of the night where Beckham was handing out money to l s U players after the game, but that is not has nothing
to do with what this warrant is about. Video surfaced showing becking Beckham slapping the buttocks of a Superdome security guard UH in the L s U locker room after the game. The New Orleans Police Department Public Affairs UM confirmed that they you know, they have issued an arrest warrant. So Beckham has got himself in a little bit of a mess. And uh, if you watch the video, it's you know, it's just it's just typical Beckham stupidity. Quite frankly,
in my opinion, that's so. I think the security guard put that guy in jail for wasting our time and money and not use in a modicum of common sense throughout the whole situation. I mean, just please, a little common sensing your police work or your security guard work. Put that guy in jail for wasting our time. That's terrible. Take what what what is he? What is he got touched on the butt? By the way, what does that have to do with your just feeling on what he
did as a security guard? Have to do with Beckham in an animated fashion reaching back and slapping a guy in the ass and embarrassing him. It's just it's very disrespectful. But that guy doesn't need to be in there trying to shut down controlled that's what security guards do. I mean, But is it a crime? I get your charge with the crime? Is it something that no? No, and nor should the security guard be in they're doing that in the first place, you know, that's the security guards do.
Everybody knows, that's what security guards do. They make themselves useful and they're take into account common sense that people work their whole lives for this moment and they want to enjoy it with a cigar, And is that you blow it out of proportion like this, give me a break. Well, a second security guard came in, from what I read,
and allowed the players then start smoking cigars. So the rules are shaky, And I mean, if you're Beckham, what do you need to insert yourself into the situation this way and be, you know, part of the news cycle. I would prefer that did not happen to him, But I don't think. I don't I don't think being a crime. He just was a bad look. No, it's not about
it to me, it's just like treat people respect. And I think that goes for the security guard and the security guard what was kind of doing more than he should have. I agree with that, But he also he wasn't trying to He wasn't actively trying to put hands behind people's backs. He was just being ignored by the players, which I understood why they did that. But you know, if you want to come after a security guard. That to me is just wrongheaded because to me, the real
Cooper you got slapped on the butt. You know, calm down, get get out of the feelings. Yeah, whatever happened to Gary Cooper, I mean fine, Beckham was fine for doing that. I don't know. I honestly don't have a hot I get, I get, just doesn't seem like something. Again, I'm just surprised that it's a legal thing based on what we saw. Also reminds me of this is what this is, what
Odell Beckham is is best at once. By the time I thought it would be as like a superstar wide receiver that's winning championships, He's more about look get the camera on me. I want to be the star of whatever viral sensation this is. This guy used to be a really promising all time potential and maybe he still can be that guy. But I am so sick of this guy. I don't think his potential is harmed by touching a security guard. When's the last time this guy
made a big play in a game that mattered. I'd love to know that answer, because he used to blame on Eli Manning. I mean yeah, but he's been on like five or six teams in a row that simply didn't matter. So that's you know, what did we blame on Eli Manning? The fact that Adell battle Odell Beckham was one of the most productive WI blames the game has ever seen. We were saying he was being held back by Eli. Uh Erica DoD you have a take on this. I just I think it's disrespectful and he's
handing out money, which is putting people in jeopardy. I think, just the whole spectacle. I agree with you Dan, like it's just why, But also what if what if that security car was a woman though, and the entire narrative I know, but if it was right, But if it was just touching someone else in a security job who's like doing their minimum wage job, just doing what they're told, like, it's I don't think it's a it's a crime. Through
that out a long time ago common sense. But if I'm going around slapping people on the asid that are trying to tell me to do something, it's not a good look on me. So I don't think it's a good I mean, what if it was what if it was your your brother, your uncle that's getting slapped It would be a common sense No, that's you're you're conflating the two issues. He he was, but they're charging him with a crime. But that that wouldn't happened. That's the
only reason it's a story. If this guy policed better, then we wouldn't be talking about it. He's not a policeman. He's if he's secured better, that's what he was trying to do. No, he wasn't using common sense. No one says you have to act like Barney Fife in a small town. When you're a security guard, you can use common sense. I just could not disagree more. Alright, anything else in the news for having six stacks. That's the final bit of news. Good timing too, this commercial stack.
That's it. That's the only news I have for you. That it's been back. Why does it went away for the holidays? And it's back. And it turns out everyone who thought, oh, the champ isn't here, actually the champ was lying in the weeds while you were getting fat and happy during your holiday season, and now the champ is here. See. I cannot tell if you too, actually at this point even care for that song other than the fact that you do annoy it. You know that Wes and I are annoyed by it. I don't think
that you actually liked the song. I think you're onto something. But it sticks. It sticks in your head. I mean it does naturally. I naturally you know, was slapping the desk for months just because it sticks in your head and and it was working. That wasn't to annoy you. But it was a nice bonus. It's the bonus was achieved. But there's a reason the league brought it back because there's like when we got a hit, bring the hit back.
It's like the Peloton ad with a Scared lady. With the scared lady, they made that commercial go away, like this is not working, and we make the Baker Mayfield commercials go away in in place of this one. At least that's got to be coming to a close. Um, all right, let's move on halftime over what a spirited halftime. It was a lot, a lot for j Lo and Shakira to try to live up to here bloated half as many fireworks as ours. All right, let's get into it.
The Titans, Oh, the Titans eleven and seven. You add their two playoff wins to how they closed their season five in a row. I'll go even further back than that. Nine out of eleven. That's pretty good. They're one of the best teams in the league. Now everything is different now,
but guess what they go to Casey and West. The Chiefs just reminded everybody of what they are capable of when they get hot and they are hosting and they, I imagine, feel like, if we could do what we did to Houston, we could do the same thing to another a f C South team. Absolutely, this this team has blue chip players out their ears. Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones when he's healthy. We don't know Honey Badger the way he's played the last two months.
All blue chip players. In an n tightened side, You've got Derrick Henry, maybe Kevin Bayer, Darrell Casey, Jeffrey Simmons. But I think those guys are more red chipped than blue chip. Jack Conklin maybe right tackle Taylor l On red chip guys, I think the talent edge goes to Kansas City. But the reason why they could get banged in a big spot. Oh, this is three years in the making for the Titans. They had visions, they had dreams. They had an analytics driven attack plan to get big
and push small teams around. And this is, as Greg would say, styles make fights power versus speed as much as it could be Titans power. We're talking Henry an offensive line that is mauling people, Darrell Casey and Jonathan Simmons shutting down short yardage, Rashaun Evans becoming a star at linebacker, and Ryan Tannehill running over people at the sticks and at the gold line. You cannot forget his power when we talk about this. This to me their identity.
This is the Titans identity that they've developed over the three years. They are a Belichick team. They are every They could have drafted McCole Hardman's speed. They wanted A. J. Brown's physicality. They could have drafted Evan Ingram's speed. They wanted John hu Smith's physicality. They could have drafted a wide receiver like d J. Moore, Calvin Ridley. They wanted Rashaun Evans for his physicality in the middle of the defense.
They have all these Belichick Patriots connections. Patrick Mahomes is three and four in his career, including the playoffs against the Belichick coaching tree and twenty three and four in all other games. Wow. I think this comes down to Henry versus Honey Henry versus Honey Badger, one on one in the red zone with the game on the line, who wins and and I think it's Derrick Henry mm hmm. And Honey Badger getting a lot of love this week for playing an excellent game last week, including a one
play where he made have like a triple read. Uh made every right guest on the primary receiver, the second day receiver covered them both and then chased the quarterback out of bound. So that is peak Honey Badger right there. I think the Titans probably look at Honey Badger, who's maybe the key guy in their defense with Chris Jones missing practice again which is a a massive loss for them if he doesn't play, and it's trending that way that he's well by the way, Henry ran all over
Chris Jones in the Chiefs. They ran pretty well against them before um, but it makes it so that they can attack the Chief's weakness, which is certainly run defense all season. And I think where Honey Badger comes into play is a little bit um like Garl Thomas came into play last week. Girl. Thomas played a really good game overall, made a bunch of plays, was all over the field, but he was victimized on that Calif Raymond touchdown where he came forward for the play action. He
bit pretty hard. He got totally out of position to the point where you didn't even see him on that play on the TV copy. But his aggressiveness, his playing his hunches, which is what Honey Badger does exceedingly well, knowing what the defense and the offense is gonna do before they do it. I think the Titans have the most dangerous play action game in the NFL, and they just haven't had to use it in the playoffs much. And I think they'll use it, and I think they
could victim victimized not only Honey Badger but Sorenson. And I think you'll see more of it this week because I think Mike Vrabel, like Bill Belichick, knows, yes, styles make fights, but you got to adapt to the game you're in. And I don't think he's gonna be thinking his defense can stop the Chiefs. He certainly didn't think that back in Week ten, and he was right, Well, I mean this team to put your point that this this has been three years into making that. Okay, it's
just that easy. Sweet who's the champ in this case the Kansas City Chiefs like that. I want to play it again. I didn't order that hit for the no that didn't know and less for me to do it is good. The drums jade a kiss, I mean, he haven't heard him in a while. He gets a lot of money off that go ahead mark, So I just think it's encouraging that like Taylor Lawan and Jack Conklin are essentially like the metrics wise in the number one and two road grading tackles at this point that they're
just there. This is what they wanted to be for so long, and it never clicked with Mariota and it's clicked with Tannehill. And it's not statistically base. I know that he's got all these numbers that jump off the page, but Derrick Henry is having They're the most lovable a f C title game underdog that I can really ever remember, because of the way that they beat people up, the way they don't really care what oh yes, next to
the Patriots. But Derrick Henry is doing something that I mean, I think he's emerged as the most fascinating important NFL figure around right now. And I'm including quarterbacks because without him, they don't exist at all on this map where they are. And I get it that we talked about Aaron Rodgers
and Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes left and right. But what Derrick Henry is doing in two thousand and twenty when everyone else wanted to be something else coming into this season, it's impossible for me not to sort of psychically just root for them to go in and and and win this game, even though I don't think that will happen. I all the points you're making it right, And on some level, Henry's un guardable, unstoppable because for the most part, even last week, the Ravens had a
pretty good plan against him. You know, probably thirty of his runs went for about a hundred yards and then three of them popped. Three of them popped huge, and one of them was a sixty six yard run where Matthew do Jude on a two hundred and sixty pound man was about to be paid, you know, forty million dollars guaranteed. It has Denrick Derrick Henry dead. Two rights in in the hole one on one, and he hits him as hard as he can with no one touched him.
No blockers even touched him, and he just bounced off him like a little kid. And then Henry not only bounces off of him and goes he knows what to do at the second level. I think that's what's different between him and and other really good powerbacks who bounce off that tackle. Then he has the vision where he sees where the safety is coming from and he gets
away from the defensive and that's special. I mean, that's why he's putting up a run that we really haven't seen, and he's probably gonna be able to do it again. It's just a question if that if that's enough had a yards on him last time they met. I realized these games that happened more than four weeks ago no one cares about. I think that game tells us a little something though, a little bit in that, like I think the Titans are banged. I feel like there's been
an uptick in the Sessler tone when you do that. Yeah, well no, because I think it's like this hot. It's sort of like we've everyone's their eight hundred people attacking this game from like a take and a point thing. So it's like jump on the that game just doesn't matter. This is a totally different Packers team. It's like there's a reason it's going to matter. There is some connective DNA. I'm not saying the whole thing is the same, but that's fair. It's it's we're talking two months ago in
Earth's history. This isn't like pre Mesozoic like clash between two forces happened like a month and a half. I think I think the Titans Chief game does tell us some things too, And I think the Titans are going to get banged if they roll out the same type of defensive game plan that they had last time. It was pretty obvious what Mike Rabel thought going into that game, which is just we can't match up with these guys.
We're gonna go out of what we normally do, which is the most one of the most predominant man coverage teams in the NFL, and we're gonna play a lot of zone and we're gonna see if Patrick Mahomes can slowly and steadily move the ball up and down the field against us and beat us. And I would say Mahomes didn't even play his best game, and you know what, they still put up five plus yards, They still put
up thirty two points. They in the first half of that game, they were the Derrick Henry type team, forty eight plays to nine team. Really for the whole game, they dominated, And yes, the Titans did find a way to win with some big time plays one on the you know, some big place from Tannehill, Andy Reid and Mahomes a little bit really struggling in game management, and maybe that's the route to do it. I don't think so, though.
I think when you're going up against one of the best, most talented quarterbacks that you've ever seen, and you're counting on them making mistakes for you to win in the game, that that is trouble because there's matchup problems everywhere and you have Mahomes at the absolute peak of his powers. That was his first game back. He missed some big time throws in that game, even though he had big numbers.
And he's got Hardman, he's got Watkins, he's got Damian Williams who now takes every snap, and I think that's an upgrade. He can test you horizontally and vertically, and they don't have answers. You have a team that doesn't have a pass rush going up against the best passing team in the NFL. And that's why I'm locking up the old Chiefs this week. Not because I I think the Titans are a better team than the Packers. I think the Titans would be a fun team to root
for in the Super Bowl. I've enjoyed them, and I think they could give the Chiefs all they can hand them. I just think the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL, and I think Patrick Williams is the best player in the NFL. And and so I'm just gonna take them. Well, you are forcing me to lock up the Titans. Yes, you gotta be happy about it. I know you didn't want to lock up. This is a
this is a a long shot. To even attempt to tie you, which I find to be would be rather dull into the whole thing anyway, So probably I'll just get swept out. But if I ever won a lock off of the Titans in this game, I would just simply I'll just take everything that I own and just throw it in the streets and just walk home. Just so everyone knows in the standings market and I trailed
by two games behind Greg. So Gregg just has to win pick one winner either this weekend or a Super Bowl fifty four, and he's got the belt, He's got the strap. The Titans, their identity right now is to punch the bully in the face. They're not afraid, as their coach said of the Patriots pin stripes, They're not afraid of the ghost of Ray Lewis, and they're not afraid of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. And I think right now the best coach team in the NFL is
the Tennessee Titans. I think they have an advantage on Dandy Reid. I think Rabel he has every player on this team with a rule. You see guys like Calif Raymond, Anthony Ferser Blossom game, Darius Jennings had a chance for a TV last week, even even Marcus Mariota. Every player on this team has a rule. He empowers his coordinators to go for kill shots when it's when it's needed.
His management has been on on fire. And I love the attitude this team plays, with their chemistry, uh the confidence they expect to win every single game right now, and let me. Let me start a little statement called let's get real with research. New segs and the boys. They give us girls voluminous information and girls, yes, but it's up to us to give context. And why do all the Chiefs defensive stats start with since week eleven?
Because they played the Titans in Week ten and they dropped thirty five points on them and Derrick Henry ran all over them, and they haven't played a good offense since. And now they play an explosive, efficient offense for the first time in two months. And I think it's a different without Chris Jones. Maybe I think this is a different Titans team. Both teams are better than when they played in Week ten. I think they played a good offense last week, not as good as the Titans, and
they didn't impress me. The Chiefs defense, I'm with you, it's a concern. And I'm with you on Vrabel. I think what he has and their staff has is a good sense of the game that they're in, you know what I mean. Like when they hit Raymond for that play action pass. It wasn't like they dominated the Ravens, but they called all the right plays at the right time. He knew what his defense was capable of, I think last week, and he was right to trust them to
play to it. I just think he knows he's not going to be in one of those games again because you went through all these reasons and it's all true, but I just don't see the players on defense. It's not a good it's not a good defense. It's fine. It's there, Yeah, it's fine, and they Rashaan Evans is playing great, Kenny Vaccaro is playing the best football of his career. Their cornerbacks, which are a liability in in December, are now an asset in January. Tye Smith and Lashawn
Sims don't even see the field anymore. So it's a different secondary. I agree they're about an average defense, but I think they're every bit as good as the Chief's defense and those, Yeah, I think they're better. It's kind of defenses can go on special runs to where it's not because you have two or three stars. And if anything, it was a week ago trying to rack your brain to figure out how even with Derrick Henry, you could play keep away from the Ravens offense. And they forced
the they made the Ravens super uncomfortable. I think they paid. They made New England's offense very uncomfortable, and I don't think that's gonna be a problem to do some of that in this game. My thing is you can't play keep away from Patrick Mahomes. Even the Texans fell into the best possible beginning to a game you could ever imagine,
and it wasn't nearly enough. It felt like the Chiefs had a hundred and twenty minutes to work with to overcome that twenty four nothing deficit because they score in two seconds. You can't just have seven minute drives that result in field goals and hope you're gonna get it done against Kansas. The game script could not have gone better, obviously for the Titans last week, which is get ahead with two quick touchdowns, take the Ravens out of their game, and then you get to use you have the best
closer in the league. I mean, you have Derrick Henry, who could then just ram the all. Now, can they do the same jumping ahead? That would be great, But can they do the same thing they've done the past two weeks in their playoff wins, which is give Derrick Henry the ball thirty to thirty five times and then ask Ryan Tannehill to make about fifteen passes, hit on eight to ten of them with a touchdown or two, or do you need a much bigger after than that,
because I don't know if anything will ever. No, there was nothing flukey about the Titans beating the Ravens last week. But that also was a perfect storm the way it developed for them, and that's what allowed them to really close out that game, uh in a really impressive way. I don't see playing out that way now. I need more from Tannehill, and he's capable of it, but they're
gonna be in capable of it. It's been a few weeks now since we've seen that, but that that, to me, is the big difference between this week and last week. I don't think they could expect to have another carbon copy of what happened in Baltimore. I think too many people are underestimating tan Hill. The way he's played this year is the way we want quarterback to be played.
He's been exceptionally accurate. He's thrown into tight windows. He has a strong arm, he's aggressive downfield, has athleticism to escape pressure and pick up first downs. His legs have been key in fourth quarter comebacks. He's shown great situal situational awareness. I just think he's been even in the playoffs, he's played really well. And people are sleeping because they're looking at box score. I'm I'm totally with you. I never said he didn't play well. Right now, I'm not
looking at box now. He's gonna need you no more. I think that's just gonna have to ball out. It can't be just Derrick Henry take us hold. I agree. I think that's why I like the Chiefs because I think they do take the Titans a little bit out of their own game, certainly on defense, where they're a man team and if you just play zone, you know, ma Homes is gonna just eat you up um, And that's not what the Titans do best. They play man.
They like to blitz. And that's so dangerous because I think Mahomes is getting to the point where he's so advanced mentally. It's just such a like combination of he'll either kill you with the play call Andy Reid, or they'll kill you with Patrick Mahomes making something up, and
it's just it's so dangerous. I just think he he makes an opponent a d offense like fear everything because the second that you think you have a locked in, they'll probably do some sweep to McCole, Hardman or it's a kick return by Hardman or or Tyreek Hill and that goes for seventy yards. It's like they just have so many ways to beat you. I thought that hardened kick return kind of got underrated as a moment the game turned around, Dan, pick to click, they needed at
the pick to click? Uh, what is it? Game view viewcaster? Alright, two of your technology, that true of technology. Check it out on Twitter video breaking down our favorite plays from the previous week. All Right, Mark picked the game. Well, I locked up the Titans, So I'm gonna pick two to win thirty five to thirty two. Oh what a ball game? Wes Well, I know my analysis been all Titans, but I really do think that the Chiefs trio of Mahomes,
Tyreek Hill, and Kelsey is unstoppable. Um, but I really think that Derrick Henry is also unstoppable against a soft run defense like the Chiefs have. I'm going Titans win. Uh. This feels like a potential classic. Is there also a scenario where the Chiefs boat race the Titans. They scored seven straight touchdowns last week. I will go Chiefs. Laboring over it. It's a great one, but I go. I'll go Chiefs. I got the Chiefs winning by by ten. I'm worried in a close game what happens with Andy
Reid versus Mike Rable. I think there's a chance that they do get up a couple of scores and that they win convincingly. Am I choosing that because that's what I wanted to happen. You're damn right. We can't say that. West told me I'm not allowed to say that anymore. Hey, you're rolling. The Titans played. Here's a little underrated one, last little nugget. But I do think it could be a fact. The Titans defense played ninety two snaps last week.
That was the most by any team in any game in the entire two thousand and nineteen season, including any overtime. They've been playing playoff football for a while. You want to be the forty Niners who played about forty five snaps on defense last week coming off of bye. The Titans are coming off three tough games, and they played nine two snaps, and they're about to go against the best offense in the NFL. You're begging. It's tough. It's a tough spot. Snap, Come on, don't you want to
see Andy big Red on the riser? That's what I well, that is what I want. I wanted it all along. And even Pat Mahomes I love that. I love that guy. You know, he's got plenty time to do it. But big Red, this is his moment. I said on this show that Chiefs aren't having another loss all season after their last loss, and and we're almost there, We're almost there. What do you get? I don't know. More the more Greg answer, Greg would say, if we said that, you
go like, and that's why they did it. They did it because you motivated them. Yeah, I did it. I did. We'll get Ryan Bartlett there are resident produced their Chiefs fan to dig up that, to dig up that clip, and we'll play it on next season playoffs around the NFL show. That's what we'll do. That's a little sideway shot at Cessler. I believe, Um, it was not a shot at it. I feel nothing. There's a reference point. Bartlett pulled me aside privately. Can we get a camera
Barlett for this? Um pulled me aside privately, and said, if the chiefs win on Sunday, I will strip nude and run down Washington Boulevard, run of NFL network headquarters, but naked the whole thing. Whatever it takes, I will do. Who's shooting the social video Erica? Now I think that's against policy. Yeah, I'll be busy, but Eric will be right behind you. You have to go behind you. You have to go past the line that's outside the gun
store a couple of blocks away. By the gun store, there's like there's like a line there on Sunday mornings that pop guns are that there's okay. These are the things you have to run pass across the street from us, the really sad old age home where the ambulance is always outside. You need to go to the past the gun shop, past the mosque, past the seven eleven, past the second seven eleven, and then when you get to the d m V, turn around and come back. That's
quite a god. I will I'll have on an a f C champions hat though, because I'll have to have somewhere to put the go pro. You will quickly be hauled in by the cops. Come back to us seven eleven, by the way to to seven elevens in a three block radius. We'll call that a flex. It's outrageous. They're both jam packs. When you go in the Greg maybe invest in the Banana hammock anybody wants. We're doing the real deal holy Field. All right, So we will be
back Sunday night. Yes, it is that time when next time you hear from us, we're gonna know all of us, The world will know who was playing at super Bowl fifty four, and we're gonna talk all about it, and it's gonna be grand. I love it, Ricky, who's your pick for the Super Bowl? I don't know. I kinda I kind of feel like it's gonna be taking all the info that you were able to glean from this last hour in eight minutes, or reject it entirely. I really just don't want Chiefs Packers, so I feel like
it will be chief Sporting Niners. Okay, but you know who won't be in the game, The Patriots or the Jet Well, I'm used to that. It's nice. It's I can relax. I'm going to Miami, and the stress about the Patriots, I mean, come on, this is great. There was something about last year, in particular the Patriots, Sins, and they rolled in for the weekend. Just the level of entitlement, the idea that this is our event, this is our weekend, this we build this now into our budget. Uh,
there was no excitement. It's just like that, we're here, it's our time to be here. Nothing short of obnoxious. And you look at the four teams left now. I couldn't have been more excited. I said, that was my Superol super Bowl victory I've seen live. And four years ago you said you don't care if to pay ever win another I said, they didn't need to. But look at the Packers and Niners. Those are two storied franchises that have been to the Super Bowl somewhat recently. However,
the Titans and the Chiefs. One of those teams is going to the Super Bowl. And that's a fan base that's gonna be on fire, which means we're gonna have so much fun at our live show Thursday before Super Bowls. Right, well done. So if you're coming into Miami, if those if one of those four teams is your team, she get your tickets. Name man, Chiefs. Fans will show up like crazy, and either the forty Niners or Packers fans.
They both will be Mobby you kid me, you got you got Kyle Shanahan like almost a direct descendant of Bill Walls bringing them back to the Bowl. I mean, Mike Shanahan makes his name under Bill Washson. Here's his son returning to Gloria. If if it's all on fan base and who will have the city the most hype the weekend? Give me Chiefs Packers. No, I think Chiefs is the best. Super Bowl One rematch Tis forty Niners is the best football game. It's it's the two best
teams left traveling fan bases. I kind of think Chiefs Packers is the one. That's what I'm talking ab, not the game, just like the fans and how ampt and yeah, but West, you know how they are. You know in the in the northwest. You know, Nashville might be coming down to Miami. They travel in droves. Look at the map in the middle of the country. All right, that's it, let's go. Dan hands is signing off for a quiet storm a mailman, your boss, Ricky Hollywood, Ryan Bartlett, who
will be nude potentially in about hours until Sunday night. Baby, I come to talk it