The Around the NFL podcast. It's curious if they're allowed to make fun of JJ Watt's clothing line. Now, oh boy, too soon, Now I'm afraid from the Chris Westling podcast studio, it's around the NFL. I am Dan hanssh That one's from the archive. Cost us a trip to London, two story, Um, Dan hands us here Greg Rosenthal and it's that laugh the great Patrick Claibon back in the studio with us, Buddy and back uh in this studio, but in this building since three am. So we respect you and I
am thankful. Well, no, I finally I would I could have. I would have come into here on an off day. I would have come into and off day. And you've done any time with you guys, I have and I will again. One of the great, one of the great satellite heroes. Patrick Claibon. Well, you have this great crew. Um. I love the off season. I love how we were able to do it with the Friday show this year with Patrick involved and I and and this it's it's notable,
Greggy that so much change around us through the years. Yeah, we have this nice core. It makes me comfortable personally. I like it. I do think about that, because there's been a lot of turnover at this company, right, but you would, you would look around us. The people were closest too for the most part. Pat you know, we've all been we've been here a while now ten years. It's a testament to you guys. Ten plus for twelve.
I don't know. Okay, Yeah, a lot going on, well actually not a ton going on right now from when we last um spoke with you on Tuesday. But we'll get caught up on the news and we'll do some We're gonna throw out some trades because Greg, the trades tsunami could be ready to crash. I think it's coming. Not enough good free agents, so I think you can get some good players via trade, right, and we're having it with some urgency. We're doing it on today's show
because it could happen now. There could be an announcement now during the show of a trade all through next week. Speaking next week, we're gonna have some good stuff. We have Greggy's top one on one free agents. Bang. We're gonna go around the AFC and around the NFC. Bang. Bang. That's a big week. Is that combine week? We have the Combine I think we were doing around AFC NFC the following week. Yeah, it's all coming up. That's fine, close enough. Before we get into the news. Hey, I
want to talk about Dom dom Capers. Let's just start here. That's what everyone's talking about. It kind of is yesterday. Dom Caper was Dom Capers, who was the first head coach ever of the Carolina Panthers when they joined the NFL in nineteen ninety five. I believe he was introduced as the senior defensive assistant, where he will be working scouting opponents and doing works work behind the scenes with defensive coordinator A giro Evarro. Evera, we talked about this
seven minutes. There's so many different pronunciation GUIDs. It meant so much to me to stick the landing on that one, and I blew it. I'll trust Greg, all right, I don't. I'm just reading off the two thousand and seventeen through two thousand and twenty RAMS pronunciation guide And I just want to say I have a take on the press
conference for Dom. He's seventy two years old. He has a certain follical strategy that he's using that would that invited UM a lot of let's say criticism or bits people had bits on twitterers, snickers h and I just want to say, listen, Dom, hey man, it's his life. He's taken the strategy uh with it's kind of a Lego esque Look, I'm not judging him for it. He could do whatever he wants. He's seventy two, He's had
a great life. I have more of a take with because when they bring out Dom the Panthers to speak with the media, it's kind of a it's a cool thing for the organization because there is this full circle nature to it, and he's this guy that obviously has connections with the city and the media and obviously the team. And yet when he does his press conference and speaking from the heart about his career and where it is and where it is now, nobody's talking about that. Everybody's
talking about his hair. And it did make me think about as another example, Ben McAdoo. Remember when he got the Giant's job and he lost a bunch of weight before he got the job, probably as part of to look good to get a job. But he didn't have a new suit, so he had the oversized David Byrne talking head suit that he wore at the press conference, and it kind of made him a bit of a laughing stock after that. My take on this is, this is a big business. These are billion dollars franchises. Let's
get a stylist involved. Let's protect these guys a little bit because they're football coaches, you know, and especially the senior ones. Let's for Dom as an example. Let's put a hat on Dom and be like, Tom, we're gonna work with you on this, and we're gonna get this in a different place by the time we're doing pressors at OTA's just work with us and let us take care of this, because otherwise you're gonna have people talking about you in a way you don't want them to
talk about you. Same thing with Macdo you're in the New York Giants, you're a Tiffany franchise. Somebody's got to see what the suit looks like, and somebody's got to give him a tailored suit. He represents the franchise. That's my take. It's it's an interesting take. Thank you, Hi. You guys know me, I'm pretty anti fashion. My number one fashion take is it doesn't matter, Oh do you
have a nice cable? You know, it's a little annoyed because you're such a tremendously handsome fellow that you could put on anything and you look good. Some of us have to work a lot harder just to look decent. But I just want to say there's some subtexts argument by Dan, but ultimately, as you said at the start, Don should wear whatever he wants. He can take whatever follicle strategy. I'm the line is very crispy and we should all aspire to that. Okay, I can't get there anymore,
but but Dom is right there. We've been mcadoo's suits. If people maybe would have trusted that he made through the right decision, as Greg Rosenthal said at the time, by putting Eli on the bench and putting in if if changing suits would have made people respect that decision more, then net problem is on the people. It's not on Ben McAdoo should wear whatever he wants. Don could have his hair or however wants. None of it actually matters. It's all just vibes. We should evaluate people on what
they do. So Don has been wearing that hair style for a long time, as long as I've seen him. Yeah, it's called it. I call it horizontal and tight, right, it looks it looks like it's lined up essentially. But I covered the Packers during the twenty ten Super Bowl against the Steelers. It was like on the beat where I was covering them each day that week, and I made it my business to get as close as I could to his hair. Sure, many times you want to smell it, just to like see what was going on,
And it all looked very like. I didn't see any Uh, you think it was natural. You're saying I don't think it was because it makes no sense, But you weren't seeing any thing that would indicate that it wasn't like it looked better is what I was really wanted to get to and more lifelike in person, like a few
inches away from it. So maybe his wife likes it. Yeah, and just and so if people are curious because I know I talk about my hair, other people talk about my hair, um that if I was the stylist, it's true, the follicle stylist of the Carolina Panthers. When you saw Dom Capers at OTA's, he looked like freaking Elvis the nineteen sixty eight Comeback special. It would be people would be talking about him in a totally different way. So give him a chance to be a hero in that sense.
What a staff though that Frank Cranks put together. When I was mentioned all those wild names last show, I didn't even mention old old m seventy two years young. Let's do some news. I don't know what you mean, but it's Zaddi. Yeah, I don't know what. Nobody's underdog. That's my man's right there, CD Lamb on around the NFL Live from the Super Bowl. Uh, a couple of weeks back. Now he might come up a little bit
later in conversation. Um, but starting now, let's uh, you know, check in with our producer Justin Graver, who was trapped behind a parking gate earlier this morning and he had still found a way to get here on time for the taping. Um, your Tennessee Titans. Obviously they made that runs few years, got close to the Bowl, never quite made it, and now it's time to let's see reload, rebuild, retool. The Titans released Robert Woods, one and done wide receiver.
He was disappointing with them this past season, although issues a quarterback an offensive line certainly didn't help anyone on that offense. Taylor Luan who was a mainstay on that offensive line for years, and it appears he has headed potentially toward retirement. Zack Cunningham and even Big Bone Randy Bullock their kicker, all released as the Titans transition into a new phase of the organization. Still unclear what's going to happen with Ryan Tannehill, also Derrick Henry, who I
whope maybe comes up later in this episode. Your thoughts, justin Graver. Titans were like twenty three twenty five million dollars over the cap something like that before these moves, and now they're about four million dollars under the cap. So I think most Titans fans who have been following along knew these cuts were coming. A lot of people still waiting to find out if Bud Dupree will be released. There was also reports that Zach Cunningham was released the linebackers,
so I mentioned, Oh yes, that's all good. Sorry, Sorry you were stuck behind a cage for hours. That was really fun trying to leave my apartment this morning and the garage gate doesn't open anyway. So yeah, these moves kind of they were like Titans fans expected them, but still creates a whole left tackle you had to back up playing there all last season. Who's also going to be a free agent and wide receiver one of the weaker groups in the league, probably looking to draft somebody there.
Don't trade for a thirty year old wide receivers coming off major injuries. NFL teams, I think that would be the Titans have done it two years in a row, Julio Jones and Robert Woods, and it didn't really work out. The Woods was a trade. I sort of forgot that, yeah, and he like requested apparently Tennessee was what if they give up for him? I think it was a fourth round pick, not bad, but then he tweeted immediately free yesterday and apparently there's like reports that he and Mike
Vrabel kind of clashed. So I don't know what to make of. That's a tough season, Yeah, Tennessee, you can make the case they had a whole at left tackle when Luan was there as well well. He was struggling and injured. That contract they gave him ended up being a little bit of a disaster just because he got hurt so much. I don't know whether I should put him on the top one to one maybe at the very end. I don't know. He hasn't been able to stay on the field, but Ran Carthon has a lot
to do. Their new their new GM. This is a rebuilding team, even though they have the same head coach, like they are starting from scratch, almost as much as any team in the league. I wonder if one, oh, don't oh, that's if you show anyone, they will take a finger comes out a picture. Um. Yeah, Luan's only thirty one. UM. He has a peed suspension on his ledger. Um. He tore his ACL in Week five of twenty twenty, suffered another season ending n the injuries, you know, just
two games into this past season. So he's played only twenty games UM in the past three years. I did read somewhere that retirement was a real possibility for him. Has a successful podcast. He said on his podcast this week that his knee is still not right, that he still said he needs to get the juice in his knee, and he also said that he would rather retire than go to a AFC South team that's not the Titans. Okay, we've got some breaking news coming up here. The juice
in or out of his knee right. Based on this situation, Graver, hit it, hit it. Oh, this could be a great synchronization based on those juice comments that Justin Graver just gave me. I am now removing Taylor law from the top one on one. Patrick can see me doing it. He technically was at one on four, but he would have gotten in there eventually. That is if horrendous use
of the breaking news drop. This is I just wanted to let people if you can't be responsible with the drop, Greggy, I thought you were gonna about to say that, like Ian was reporting, there's retiring. I mean, sometimes you gotta, you know, I use the drop as a comedic element. I will make the case that Greg making the announcement about Taylor Lawan's not placement on the one on one
is more important news than his retirement. Okay, wow, I just s I heard that the juice when he needed the bore juice that you gotta get off the list does have a PD suspension, So maybe the juice is maybe the juice needs to be loose, all right, I think that the breaking news drop is sacred personally, but agree to disagree on that one. In other news and Big Bone Randy times, they are changing titans EATA kicker.
The Broncos bring back Vance Joseph after a series of interviews helmed by Sean Payton, the new head coach in Denver. He goes with Vance Joseph, who has obvious history with the never Broncos. He was once their head coach and now he's back in the DC position. Other notable names Patrick viewed for the job, including Rex Ryan, who's probably a little bit annoyed Rex as someone who followed Rex very closely. Obviously, he went from you know, top of the world head coach to now he can't even land
a DC job. So I guess back to ESPN with him, maybe he'll get back on the campaign trail. He had a lot of success with wait Kit before we moved from Rex. Can I make one little point when these reports come out whenever Rex kind of does anything that he's like a really strong candidate in Denver and this that and the does he think like being such a media funnel as helping him? I don't think it's helping him.
Maybe that's not why Sean Payton didn't hire him. But anytime Rex Ryan gets any little interest from the NFL, there's like four different reporters that's like, looks like Rex Ryan is getting this job, and it's like that almost immediately lets the coach know, like, oh, this is gonna be kind of a headache. Having Rex Ryan is the never a lot of sense to me, Like it didn't feel like Sean Payton and Rex Ryan for whatever reason, felt like a good match. And I also thought, like
worked under it. Yeah, maybe it's for a while. Maybe it was a favorite to Rob that maybe that was a um but Rex. I also thought Rex would never go back um on the sideline if he wasn't a head coach, and he's probably not going to ever get a head coach job again. So it surprise me that he was even doing that and didn't work out. But
Vance Joseph is there in that position justin. Graver listens to our shows so closely that he was upset that Mark, our good friend right out this week, was not here so that Mark could capitalize on a long standing take that they should bring Vance Joseph back as a defensive coordinator, a take that Dan and I had no recollection of a longstanding That's what Graver said that he had been saying that all season, said it a few times. I hope I am remembering that correctly, because now I'm a
good job by you. I wouldn't trust these you definitely listen to That's how we have so many shows, so many takes. Uh, justin. I hope you're right on that one, because the listeners really having the time of my life. The listeners will hold you to it. Uh. Let's see how much they've changed in Denver by the way, Like you know, it's like, oh, that's weird. He's going back to the place he was just fired. But there's a different owner, a different head coach. Nothing is the same.
Aaron Rodgers has left his Darkness Retreat. I'm about that. Scott Burman, who owns Skycave Retreats, said Rogers left the dark room and the facility on Wednesday. Rogers, of course, is at the center of the offseason scuttle butt. He is under contract with the Packers for nearly sixty million guaranteed if he plays in twenty twenty three, but there is a lot of speculation that perhaps his time with Green Bays over even if he continues to play football.
We shall see. Um. I thought, I don't know why I when I saw this update first it's funny that reporters are calling around to different darkness retreats they find the one Aaron Rodgers is out and good reporting by the people involved. Um. But also I was a little bit I thought that Aaron Rodgers would be more organic than that. I thought he would find his own cave and be in the darkness in a very pure, non
commercial way. So the fact that he went to sky Cave Retreats, that just that makes me think maybe I want Derek Carr on the jets instead. That's it. That's it. I think that's February twenty twenty three. The Skycave Retreats bothers me. It seems you said you had a take on this story. You almost didn't discuss it, and this is quite a take. I thought, Yeah, I thought it was something a little more crunchy, given um, the path he's taken in life. This is you wanted him to
go kind of yeah. I wanted it to be something like an eternal journey that he went on deep into like the woods. The fact that he just googled darkness retreats and then got on a private jet and went to this place and then stayed for a couple of you gotta have the person to drop the food into the hole or whatever. It's more than just darkness. You're embracing the energy of the universe. This is right for like seventeen hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, because you have
to have a trained professional. You can't just have any darkness. You can't just go because you just only like a three hundred square feet though. That's pretty hardcore. Yeah, So that that that did bother me, that that it wasn't official. Um, I might have a similar situation going on because movers arrive tomorrow. Uh in I'm moving, but we had ordered a new bed for the new place and it hasn't arrived yet, and I still have the old place until
the end of the month. And I think so I might stay in the old place in the old bed because there's nowhere to sleep in the new bed. But just bas no, we have like five more days, so I think that is going to be my five day darkness retreat in my old house. You could foil the windows in the empty house and then sell it as a darkness retreat, all right. You just put some astrological information up there and people will flock to it. I um, when I was living on the Upper West Side in
New York. They it was this old building. It was a fifth floor walk up, and loved living there was a great place eighty second in Amsterdam. And as happens, especially in New York, but especially in that area, it was decided that it was going to be sold to a developer who would turn it into a luxury condominium.
So we got booted out of the place, and I was working at MLB dot com on the southern end of Manhattan, and there I didn't really have a place to live for like a couple of months, so I had spent a lot of time at my buddies Bob's in Brooklyn. But sometimes when I didn't want to go through that, I would just like go up to the old apartment that was still everything was still there, and I just the key still worked, and I just slept on the couch. Multiple times months after our lease had
lapsed and the entire building was empty. It was a little scary, to be honest with you, but I could steal Wi Fi from an apartment across the way, and there was enough light coming in because there were no blinds that it wasn't a darkness retreat. And that was a nice little life pack for the old zuser in Manhattan. I would argue you were morally obligated to do that, considering that they free the option and put you on the street. I like that that was the only way
to go. It's a lot of sleeping in strange place content today. Before the show too, Patrick talked about how occasionally at the old NFL building he set up a mattress, an air mattress when he had the three am shift. Yeah, when you can. You have a small child at home, not a lot of sleep there, when you can. And finally, net Netflix announces a QB series. What's it called Grave Diggers? It called Quarterback. Yes see. I kind of like that.
It's just like, we're not fusing around here. It's Quarterback, um, and we'll focus on the lives and careers of quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes, that's a pretty good get for the series. Kirk Cousins, that's kind of a great get for people that find that guy interesting. Uh I do. I honestly find Kirk Cousins interesting. Not that he he's an interesting guy, right, this is what makes him tick? What is up with Kirk? I don't know if we're gonna get to I don't know.
I feel like he's I don't The less I know, the better. I feel like, keep the mystery around Kirk. Well, okay, and I want to see like the Kirk Cousins who did a gender reveal and almost missed the target. Like, I want to see what's going on at Cousins mansion. Anyway, Netflix is doing that series, and I like that. I love quarterbacks and getting behind the scenes. Look, especially with
mahomes about give it to Me. I will be curious to see how they handle the Mariota getting benched and then leaving the team because waiting mid season for the birth of his daughter. Wait, did they I don't know enough about the series, so it's covering him across the season. Yeah, oh okay, great, it's pretty good too. I'm all about streaming services doing football content. Get at me, hit me up, connect with Patrick Clay. They have they have a similar
ish tennis one. They had the f one. Now they have a tennis one and it's it's up and down. It took out a few episodes to get going. I thought it was great. Did you watch it? I love streaming. Yeah, the mega watts smile hire this man. Let's take a break and we will pitch some trades. All right, mind, it's time for Navigating Trades and Free Agency, presented by Toyota. Uh. Greg, it is the I just heard um. I checked with the Associated Press. This is the fifth anniversary of your
Trade Tsunami column. Uh. And obviously it's take on a life of its own in the years since it's it's it's it's washed over the mainstream. At this point, it's only picked up. Unfortunately, like a lot of climate change, like it just gets worse and worse the trades last season. At this point it's out of my control. Trade Tsunami lives bigger than me. And I'd love the NFL is
embracing this, you know, embracing the chaos. Yeah, it makes it more fun to follow in the off season Fox Show, including when the actual deadline is come around Halloween every year, it just you know, big names will be moving. So this will be an opportunity for us to throw out some trades. And just to be clear, these are going to be trades that we believe can happen. These are trades that have they're rooted in a realistic nature. Okay, the rooted. I'm searching for the word. I can't find it.
So I'm gonna throw to Patrick to get us going. And when I do think of the word, I will probably interrupt you. But rooted in go ahead, all right? So the first trade, and I'm glad that I'm going first, because you guys are probably going to think about this.
The Atlanta Falcons send pick number one oh eight, excuse me, one oh nine, pick number eight, a twenty twenty three first rounder in a conditional twenty twenty four first round pick, to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for the Lamar Demitrius Sho. You came off the top roup to begin with. Wait, you have to re read the so I need to hear it. Those Let's start the present with Lamar, the top ten pick rooted in reality. He was the word you were looking at A well, not really bad. I
don't think this is unrealistic. I don't think it's that unrealized. That's an exercise, right, Yeah, No, it's got to be realistic. Gotta be rooted in reality. And Lamar Jackson getting traded, as we talked about Tuesday, certainly can have It's the number eight overall pick yep number eight overall one oh nine overall. A first round pick one or nine is a fourth rounder, yes, okay, another because they a first round pick in twenty twenty four and a conditional first
round pick in twenty twenty five. Sorry four conditional first rounder in twenty five tied to performance or playing time or what do we We'll figure out the concussions. It's just important. It's the first round pick. Yeah. I had to throw in an extra first because there were the two first for Russell Wilson. Lamar clearly a younger player. You can't think it's tough to think of a precedent for a player at this position, at this age. Lamar
younger than Joe Burrow. It's like, considering the things that he's done and things that he can do well. Deshaun Watson got three first a third, and essentially a late round trade up, and so you would think that's the starting point. It's kind of like the whole Deshaun Watson negotiations is getting in the way of of Lamar in general. I mean, because I know that's like we look back at what Steve Bashadi said last year and it's like, oh and everybody's reaction to the Watson contract was well
that this puts Baltimore into tough position. What put them in a tough position was not paying Lamar Jackson the moment they had the opportunity, and what that signals to me and the consecutive moments since then, is they don't want to have Lamar on their team and pay him what he's what he deserves. So let's just let's cut with all this and like, oh, we want Lamar to be here. If you did, you would have had him.
It's just like after the fact when Davante left Green Bay, there was oh, well there was this offer and there
was that. No, it's just it's like you're saying in terms of you're saying, it's not really something to connect the dots on which I agree if you're if you mean that they didn't get the deal done before last March, because once that deal happens, it does connect well, I think these quarterbacks, right, I agree, But Patrick has a good point that ultimately I believe there are other teams that value Lamar Jackson higher than the Baltimore Ravens do,
which is a little disappointing if you're Lamar Jackson that there are many teams out there, and I think Atlanta would be a perfect landing spot for him in terms of what Arthur Smith likes to do, and I think they would love it that would give him the fully guaranteed contract, and that I think whether Steve Bashotti cares
about precedent or not, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. If there's teams out there like the Jets, like the Falcons that would happily give him a five year guaranteed contract, then that's his value and that ultimately, like Lamar Jackson can get that. I know, like the teams have players over a barrel with these franchise tags, But I really do think that Watson trade change things and that quarterbacks are gonna get these types of contracts moving forward. UM.
Good one, Patrick, I like it. You are you are the media entities number one Lamar Our fan, and you like the idea of him getting a fresh start in Atlanta as well. I just like the idea of people getting paid what they deserve, and like it was less than a year ago, Derek Carr signs this alleged one hundred and twenty one million dollar extension and that's all of the headlines. Oh, one hundred twenty one million. He
got seven percent of one hundred twenty one million fired. Yeah, And so like the reality of these things are is we float these contract numbers. And of course Lamar and his family and a lawyer are negotiating this deal. Where is this request of a guaranteed contract even coming from? Right? We don't know that for sure, and so I don't I'm just not sure that the Ravens have made an offer that's aggressive enough for because if they did, I
don't think we'd be having this. There's been different reporting. There was one report out there that said that guarantee was around one hundred and thirty million, which would have been significantly lower than Kyler Murray. I did. I mean a Kimes' show this week, she mentioned hearing something that it was more than Kyler Murray, but not fully guarantee.
And then if it's if it's getting that close, it's like, just do it right, If you're that clote, if you're willing to guarantee one hundred and eighty million, just just go to two thirty Like what what are you holding out for? Principal wise, I'm with you that how much? How much do you think, uh, Lamar missing the end of the last two seasons consecutively have led Baltimore to maybe hesitate here, They've been hesitating before that. Yeah, I
don't think it has a huge factor. They were they were hesitating because it was the same deal last year. They weren't coming close to the contract last year, right, right, but then it happened again. I'm just saying, if if iriability issue questions about a mobile quarterback that you know, if he's Taylor Lawana and he's not good when he's
on the field, then I think that's worthwhile discussion. But whoever plays quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens is going to be a human being who was capable of being injured. And essentially most of these things did the luck. Did you hear my pitch about a sports agency? Um? Last day show? Um, not athletes first? People first? I like it. Let's get people all right. Let me go next because mine connects to yours because I have a quarterback in Atlanta as well. Oh wow, Um, but it's not Lamar.
This team would love Lamar the Falcons. But let's say that is not an option. Um, you know, we gotta get number three out of Denver. We gotta get him out of there. We got an airlift number three. Did you see by the way, that Tarique Woolen was just doing a podcast and he said when he met Russell Wilson, he was surprised by first out kind of how he was short and stature in trigue will in six three. But but he also said his body was like a sack of potatoes. That was interesting to this dude just
got to the league. Everybody's taking and I was like, Russ will I know Russell Wilson could take. You know, has been taking a lot of fire, really his whole rear. But now people are coming for him. His fitness. I feel like that's the one thing you would never have to worry about with Wilson, but he was described by a rookie cornerback is a sack of potatoes. Anyway, I
feel for Russell Wilson. He does not seem like a bad guy, and he's in a bad situation in Denver, you know, And now you have Sean Payton there, who is as we talked about when the hire happened, he's the boss there. Now he's in control of the situation. This is no longer Russell Land. Remember Nathaniel Hackett's famous line at the press conference, come on, y'all, Russell Wilson.
Holy very exciting. It's crazy how how recently that was and things are so different now the Falcons, and this connects with Patrick as well because one element of this. Atlanta has the second highest amount of cap space in the league right now fifty six million. Chicago, by the way, is first with almost one hundred million in cap space. Keep an eye on them anyway. So we know, here's the quick background that connects to Lamar as well as Russ.
That the Falcons, as we know, under Arthur Smith, it's a run first offense. They play in a dome, they're in a week division. It's an offensive minded head coach who has a history of salvaging veteran quarterbacks. Ryan Tannehill comes to mind. The Falcons are in QB purgatory with no obvious in house option. You got Desmond Ritter, who Mariota was a total mess and now is on Netflix. Last offseason, they traded Matt Ryan to the Colts for a third round pick. So let's try something similar here
with the Broncos. Russell Wilson to the Falcons for a third round pick seventy fifth overall Escalators based on Wilson's play, becomes a second round pick if Wilson plays seventy five percent of snaps, first rounder if Wilson plays seventy five percent, and the Falcons appear in the NFC title game, Fresh start for all involved, and the Falcons maybe maybe have a quarterback. M This is a shocker. It's a gamblebviously would be gamb especially at the gamble for Atlanta too
much is probably in the he's year three of a regime. Yeah, got him, probably make the playoffs, and you're hitching your wagon to Russ. But I think it's better than what they have currently. It's it's a short side to me, it's a short term solution. It's Denver just deciding we kind of are punting on twenty twenty three, not punting in the sense of like we're not going to try
to win we could. We think we can find a very low cost quarterback that can play as well or better than Russell Wilson, and we're gonna swallow, you know, the biggest salary cap pain we've ever had, like any team's ever had. I think it would be sixty million dollars that Russell Wilson would be on their books, but he'd be they'd be done with it. It'd be clean, it would wash over the organization. If if internally they're like, it's very similar to the Matt Ryan trade, because that
was sort of under the radar. The Falcons decided to take incredible dead money pain just to kind of be done with it, get of Matt Ryan and move forward. And then the pick that they have to send to me is almost incidental. I think they could probably like if someone was willing to take Russell Wilson, they would take whatever. If it's a third, if it's a fifth, sure is for the Falcons. And that much of a need to be to be out of this. I mean, we saw the head coach go, Um, he's right back
doing doing what he does. Um, he's going to be involved in calling plays and managing an offense and all of those things. And so it's it's all Russ. It just it took a collective effort for the offense to be that bad. Right, you're saying they don't hate the idea though, of like, we don't really see him as the long term solution and that if anyone's willing to give up anything, they would take him. It's interest like, it's weird because any team that takes him on, people think,
oh wow, why would you even take on that contract. Actually, Russell Wilson will be one of the cheapest starting quarterbacks in the league. He has base no base salary, and he would be a one year kicking the tires commitment where you're paying him, you know, less than what like Jamis Winston types are making. He makes eight million dollars this year base salary, and you just see it's just sort of a kicking the cans. It's it's free money, free money for the Falcons. Let's do it, Broncos country.
Let's right. I like the Lamar move much better. I want to see better. I mean, I just I don't see any purpose in taking on Russell Wilson at the at this point. But I get it from Denver's perspective. I just want to see what new slogan he'll say at the end of press conferences if he goes to another team. I think he I think what we'll see just the prediction. Sometimes self awareness is not a trait that Russell Wilson tends to possess, but some of that stuff is going to melt away. Now. I feel like
there was a very humbling twenty twenty two. I think what changes is the people he's selling himself to, uh and the people he's selling himself to and Denver are fundamentally different than the ones that are in Atlanta and um so I think it would it would change because Russ Russ manages a brand and like all of these guys do. Like Matt Ryan, like the discussion about like how good he was and how happy he was with
being benched and how he was gonna help. It was like, no, Matt Ryan was pissed off, but guaranteed seventeen million dollars next year, by the way, so it's a little bit of a it's a two year, twenty five million dollar commitment, so kind of a similar contract to one you would give like a I don't even know who is Amid, No one gets does It's not even Jameis Wins. Then I guess would get like a two for twenty five that he got from the Saints something like that. All right,
Greggy hit us, Greg all right, mine simple. DeAndre Hopkins to Buffalo for the Bills's uh first round pick this year, which I believe it's twenty nine. Okay, okay, interesting DeAndre Hopkins Okay, he's thirty coming off the PD but did perform when he came back last season. Bills, we all talked about it. Have a need to add some more playmakers. I like it. You say first round pick, Yeah, it's a late pick that seems maybe a little rich. Do
you want to give up a first round pick? I would say second, and maybe give back a fifth or something. It's it's all about managing the window, though, and we see how small that that window could be. And you go from you know, asking the corpse of Cole Beasley to come run some routes in the playoffs to putting new Hopkins in the slot. Definitely to change, huge upgrade. I love the fit because he doesn't have to be
the number one there. I don't think he's necessarily that guy where the whole offense needs to revolve around him. You have Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis is a useful player, but putting him one depth, you know, one spot down helps. I don't think the twenty seventh overall pick and that that's what it would be would be too much for him, like this is not it's not just win now. But
I think that's totally appropriate value. You look at the players they've drafted in general in the first round, and I know, you get these rookie contracts and that's nice. You have to play DeAndre Hopkins a lot more. But it's it's been Tremaine Edmonds, it's been Greg Rousseau, which worked out Ed Oliver like Kyrie Elam last year. This is either at the end of the first round, these aren't as great a premium pick, and I'm taking bird in the hand, DeAndre Hopkins with that big arm at
Josh Allen throwing at seventy yards on the field. It's fun. I would I would do it. I would do it for the twenty seventh overall pick, but I would try very hard to hold on to the pick and see if I can get Yeah, I think the trade market and I have another receiver trade coming. I think it'll be aggressive because I think it'll cost that much, because I think they'll be competition because there's so little available in free agency at wide receiver. Mister Patrick laybal and
back to you, buddy, all right. I think I could satisfy a couple of different with the alarm. Run for cover. There's nowhere to run, there's nowhere. The sea is retreating. What does that mean. It means there's a swell of water on the way, and that water includes the Houston Texans sending pick number four, pick number thirty five. Here we go, pick number one hundred and five. There we go, and Brandon cooks the Chicago Bears in exchange for the
number one overall pick. Thank you Patrick for doing that. We could not do this exercise without addressing the Bears number one overall pick. And you've done it. Can we want to do it one more time? So I can should have been four five or four thirty five and one oh five and Brandon cooks. I needed to throw in a player because I use the Rich Hill shout out to Rich Hill trade value chart, which has been almost identical to the trades that we've seen in the
past few years. And uh, those numbers get close to working out for me in the Bear mean two overall. Two overall Bears are the first overall pick right, oh whoops, my bad? Yeah, and the since number two. So just to move up one spot, you got to give up all that. You got to be absolutely in love with a quarterback that you can't risk not getting. Do we have any insight that they are in love with somebody.
I just wanted Justin Fields to have a good receiver. Yeah, I think Brandon Cooks Fields trade on this conversation now, I think this is and I don't think a Justin Fields trade is crazy for the Bearers to consider they didn't draft him depending on what they can get. I just don't think that's a crazy thing to like go through the exercise he was on with Rich Eisen said the only thing he would love in this scenario is transparency, like toe from the team. Yeah, to hear from the
team like what they're thinking. He hasn't yet and I don't I unfortunately don't think he will. It's an uncomfortable thing that if they get a godfather offer they have to think about everything. But to me, this is perfect for them. You move only one spot down, you actually still have the option of drafting quarterback there or entertaining
more likely trades for another quarterback moving up there. And I don't think it's that crazy for Houston to give up all that because some other team will if they don't Indianapolis will, or the Raiders will or the Panthers will like it could happen. And what it does is it exercises the Trubisky trade demons, and all of that finally goes away and the Bears can be happy. I
mean that goes away until Patrick Mahomes retires. But I mean, imagine, if you're the Bears, you get the number two overall pick, and you get that second round back that you gave up for Claypool, which maybe a mistake, you get Cooks. It's it's amazing there. You could trade the Bears in, you could keep accruing picks. It is really an amazing situation. They found themselves in not being able to win games
last year. Remember Bears fans last offseason very upset about, like I remember, they were my number one overall pick when we did over unders taking the under for Bears, very upset about that. They're upset with your power rankings in this season, and yet UH, now they're in this beautiful spot because they lived up. Um. I feel bad for the UH and this is gonna be surprising to some listeners, but I feel bad for the Jeremiah's of
the world. DJ you know, he's put out mock Draft two point zero, and it's just you're in a tough spot because the Bears are almost certainly going to trade that pick, or it's very likely it happens, but they can't. They don't want to a lot of these mock guys don't want to mock trades this early. So you're stuck giving giving the Bears Jalen Carter, the Georgia defensive tackle um and then you have Bryce Young, according to DJ, going to Houston with the number two pick. He calls
him the best quarterback in the class. Here's the here's the dream scenario for the Bears. Let's say they do trade out of one and it is to the Houston Texans. And then let's say the Texans take the quarterback that the Colts don't want, and then the Cults are gonna have to come up to two at that point, and they're gonna have to entertain those discussions that they were just having that weren't good enough, like what's the price then to get to two. It could be it could
be all Bears. They could get three first round pick value out of There is absolutely a scenario here, assuming they want to keep justin fields. But even if they would entertain the idea of trading him, the fact that they're there and this is such a quarterback I wouldn't say quarterback rich, but there's four guys that are probably
going to go in the top fifteen. The question of if you go up to one, though, is does Young Is he that much higher on everyone's list, or on at least the Texans list than whoever's next, whether it's c. J.
Stroud or Levis. There is conversation around this quarterback class that is better than last year, but certainly not a quote slam dunk guy that you know will be a big time NFL qb Ain't that the way, although it you know, cults Jim Mersey already sort of throwing it out there that this Bryce Young looks pretty good the one. You know, he threw that out there in the introductory press conference for their head coach and basically said, like, we brought him in to develop. We brought Shane Stikeen
in to develop a young quarterback. So they're taking a quarterback. It's just whether they get their first choice or second choice. Maybe they're a third. All right, you said, Greg, you had you had a wide receiver. I do have another wide. I have a wide receiver and another one, But why don't you throw out your wide receiver? Cults related This one's pretty simple. The Tsunami's coming to Indianapolis. Keenan Allen to the Colts for a two and twenty four third
round pick. The Cults have already traded away their their third round pick this year. Uh in the what was it the Matt Ryan trade and what was it? Um Keim Allen. I don't think it's gonna have like a super aggressive market as a trade option because of his big salary, But I think if you look at it, he's due to make fifteen million base salary this year. I actually think he could get that or maybe a
little more in free agency. So I actually don't think that Chargers will have to cut him if that's what they're leaning towards doing, which it sounds very possible. With their cap situation, the Colts can fit Allen in under the cap stike and worked with Keenan Allen before when he was back in San Diego and feel like he is like the capable, relatively low cost pair of hands they could use to pair there with Michael Pittman, I like, it makes sense, highly sensible. Yeah, not like a huge
fireworks trade. But I was kind of trying to look to see like who is legitimately realistically gonna get traded. And I've been seeing all this Keenan Allen might get cut noise, and I'm like, no, I think team would give something up even even that contract is not that crazy to me. Can't stay healthy, but he's still when he's on the field, he's still Keenan Allen. Okay, I'll do a wide receiver too, m c D who is not going anywhere. But you heard earlier he was on
around the NFL a couple of weeks back in Phoenix. Uh. He disagreed or was a little confused on the Zaddi line up questioning, but he also was frank with us and frankly others on the Cowboys needed to clean things up a little bit in terms of their playmaking roster. They I want more players around me. Let's let's listen to a little bit of what CD had to say on our show. You got as around stare like that um on Dak Yes, go look at the Eagles and
they got three receivers. Um great tight end group. Uh they run the ball well, a line is very phenomenal. He get San France, they got they surrounded their quarterback and uh, you get you get success ultimately. I mean granted we got we got just you know, as many weapons, but that extra player or that that that one, all
all it takes is one. You know, you could be so close in that to the to the super Bowl and they could be a deciding factors of feel like just keeping him, just keeping him comfortable in the pocket, just keeping just keeping him surrounded with you know whatever. Its spart production should I say? And uh, you gotta stay healthy. Look at us making news. We're from newsmakers.
Look at us facts like that Ceedee Lamb. So he's he's putting it out there in the media that the Cowboys don't have enough guys to make Dak the quarterback he can be. So you know, jar Jara likes making splashes. The Cowboys have some issues. They're not in cap hell, but they have work to do to get underneath the cap.
But it is possible. For instance, there is a path to cutting Dak Prescott's current cap hit in half, and you know, moving the pain down the line, they can clear money, and they should clear money because they also have to bring back Tony Pollard. By the way, Dalton Schultz um, but they need that number two wide receiver just like the Bills. And I do like uh, I
do like allup. But also we just don't know if he's ever gonna be the same guy again after that knee injury, So let's go get him a true number two alongside CD Mike Evans. WHOA, he's twenty nine years old, he's in the last year of his contract. The Bucks are steaming toward a rebuild, so it makes sense Evans went to Texas A and M you're a home state, justin for better or worse, and he uh scheduled to make twenty four million, that's the eighth highest paid wide
receiver in the league. But you can make it work. You can find a way, and then you have, hopefully with Tony Pollard healthy and back on the roster, CD, Mike Evans and his nine straight one thousand yard seasons, Dalton Schultz and Dak Prescott going for it this year and seeing if they could get over the hump out of the divisional playoffs. That's that's the favorite trade that I've we've suggested to me. Can I oh, I didn't
do the terms. Second round pick fifty eighth overall, and the ice is great, and you can sometimes I could be wrong. Maybe it would take a first round pick. I think, like what you're saying, the Bills would have to give up. But sometimes these guys that are on the wrong side of thirty veterans that are expensive, I think sometimes it takes down the price a little more, and everybody's a little surprised sometimes by the terms when they come out. But I would do it for a
first time. Certainly that happened with a Marii Cooper last season. He's only thirty though, and he still moves well. I know he didn't have a great season. The only trick, and I've seen this Evans thing out here, is just they don't really save much money by tradeium. Like there's this idea that, like, he makes a lot of money, so you save a lot by tradeium. But it's just not the case because of the way his contracts directors. So I don't see their motivation unless they got a
premium pick. I think they are at a point where it could make sense to trade Mike Evans because his value is at a high relatively, But that's why I just would say they would need more. You gotta get that first round, and I think they could get it. I don't see why not. All right, twist on my arm a second and a fourth with a six going back the other way. Right, This isn't exactly like you're the GM, But I'm not doing this trade if I'm Jason Light without a first plus and I don't think that.
Do you think there's a team out there that would give up a first round pick for Mike Evans? Yeah? I do. I think you just named that team. I think I think so because it is partly because of the money situation. After June first, it would be a bigger trade, but that's like not when things happen, but right now it wouldn't really. They wouldn't really save anything from it. So it's like, you gotta make it worth it.
You gotta make it worth it. And once you make the trade right, you can make some sort of commitment to both Mink Evans and Deck as you mentioned, and kind of alter the cap situation that number twenty six pick. Where are we getting at twenty six? Mike Evans? Isn't there at twenty six. Mike Evans might not I would do it. I would do it, but as this is not you're the GM, but I would try very hard to hold onto that pick if I can and see see if we can make the move and and the
and the Bucks. Maybe either're like Jason Light's like man, I love Secon round picks, so I love them. They're cheaper, team control. I like good players. And this is a fallout from what they did in the Tom Brady era. Is they did things to create space, like adding three fake years onto Mike Evans's deal that don't really exist. They're void years, but push this pain so that if they wanted to make this trade, they're not really saving anything because of everything they did a year. It was
a party. That was the whole goal of the Brady trade and eat the pain. This last year wasn't worth it. But they you know, I don't blame them for doing it. Sure we have, anybody else? Have another one? Oh? I gotta because I do. All right, let's do one words,
take a break, and we'll do one more each. We love Akholder back, all right, one more time around the horn, Claybonne, Let's get it the Seattle Seahawks and the fifty first overall and the eighty third overall pick in the twenty twenty three draft to the New Orleans Saints in exchange for Cam Jordan. Oh okay, like that, who's got one more year on his deal? Ye. The Saints, as Greg pointed out earlier this week, wanted to try to save money on Derek Carr, like during their their interview before
he was going to be a free agent. And it signals to me that they're they're finally starting to worry about these things, and we're going to see some longtime New Orleans favorites and other places. All time sack leader of New Orleans Saints. I believe maybe he started to show some of his age last year. Maybe he's not the same dude, but he's also a guy that would it surprise you if he went to Seattle and had
eleven sacks next year. Seattle is the type of team too, that would give up good value for a player like Cam Jordan. I think if the Saints could get that, they would do it. I like that one. I'm gonna set a second round pick too, how about that? Okay, what we got, We're going to Green Bay Darren Waller to Green Bay for a twenty twenty four second round pick. I don't know why it has to be twenty twenty four. I don't think they have it in a twenty twenty
twenty three second round pick. In a twenty twenty three fourth round pick. They were reportedly offering a premium pick, according to Ian Rapport at the trade deadline for Waller, considering there were reports that they offered their second for chess Chase Claypool. But we're topped by Chicago. I'm just gonna guess it was this second round pick. Now you can get it for Waller. I think the Raiders are motivated to trade Waller, and I think he will be
traded this off season. There's already been little little bird droppings. I've heard that that he's kind of outop like bird dropping. I don't know, or are they birds dropping information or are they defecated a little bit of both. Darren Waller he recently signed a contract that made him one of the most or if not the most, highest highest paid tight end in the league. I don't know. Uh, I
know he's hurt a lot. I don't know. Sometimes it feels like I don't know if he's a little disinterested and you have Josh McDaniels there, It doesn't seem like that staff. And it's interesting that he got that contract, but there might be a disagreement here and value between ownership and the coaching staff. It's a good it's a tradable contract. I think, where's he going? I'm sorry, Green Bay, and you do that move regardless of if it's Rogers or Love because you gotta give the whoever it is.
They need another weapon. They need they need pass catchers no matter what they're doing. Uh you, I like to how about another trade involving a second round pick? Derrick Henry I checked with my official Titans insider, only one year remaining on his contract. That is a very tradeable contract, even if he is a highly paid running back who perhaps isn't the same guy he was two years ago, but still Derek Henry I think has a year or two in the tank where he could be a big
time contributor, especially if he's in the right offense. How about this, Derek Henry to the New York Giants who boxed in a little bit here with say Quon or perhaps don't want to give him a top of the market running back contract and have the Daniel Jones deal to take care of you tag Daniel Jones, you let Barkley go to free agency, and another team in your mind overpays, and then you trade the fifty seventh overall pick.
Maybe you can make it a third round pick. Let's see what's going on, and you get Derrick Henry the final year of his deal in I believe is his age twenty nine season, and you can then figure out if you want to keep him around beyond this upcoming season. So you keep Daniel Jones. You can decide whether sa Quon Henry is at a wash is it one way or the other? But you still have a big time running back for a team that loves to run the ball, and you don't have to give sa Quon a deal
that you don't feel comfortable with. It's essentially like giving Derrick Henry the franchise tag. Instead of give up a third round pick. You franchise one year, ten million dollars, which is a fine rate for Derrick Henry. Yeah, no, it's it's definitely you get a good player for for a great value. My question would be, if you need Derrick Henry as you needed Saquon Barkley, but why not just tag sa Quan if you have to have a
generational running back because you don't want you. You don't want to give a one hundred and some odd million dollars to Daniel because you're not quite sure in that either. So it's going to be another Lamars if you don't want the quarterback, just let him go, right I do. Lamar and Daniel Jones are very different cases, though, well they could be making me exactly they might actually pay
Daniel Jones. I was thinking about that that Daniel, there's at least a chance Daniel Jones, Gino Smith, and Lamar are all making the same amount of money next year. If you had told me like a year ago, would have blown my mind that that would be a wild move. I think about timelines with them. Are they thinking they are trying to win right now because that that is sort of just played in the divisional playoffs, and whether
or not we take them seriously. I'm sure they feel they're gonna be ready to contend in the NFC next year, and it's a It's an aggressive move, but one that I think doesn't set them back it's not a huge gambit in terms of giving up the future to get better in the present. Um, I think they're gonna have who's who's on that roster running back behind right now? Very right well, he was there, They're gonna have to
put it this way. If sa Quan's not there, they're either gonna have to go get somebody or draft a guy uh in the first couple of rounds. I would think that they could feel good about running the football, but they have to address running back. And maybe this is the Maybe this is all a bunch of bunk by me because they're just gonna bring back because they
have the guy already, But maybe it's not. I think he's gonna get paid a lot of money, say gun Barkley, and I do think they'd be looking maybe to go cheaper, but that might be using a second or a third round pick at running back. Interesting. I think Henry would be a fun uh in a very realistic can't see him that, can't quite see him with the Giants this year, but I could see him getting traded. Is it Grave Digger?
Are you given what we what just happened with the Titans and where they are organizationally, like, this isn't this? This is the time to move a twenty nine year old running back with ninety seven thousand miles on the odometer. It's time, right, It's It's not like his value is going to get higher from here. He has a sixteen million dollar cap hit win the super Bowl next year, justin I don't think the Titans are winning the super Bowl this So why would you have a nearly thirty
year old running back with trade value? Because he could eventually be the franchises all time leading rusher and it's kind of cool to have him playing with one team and maybe people in Tennessee like to watch Derek is true, But that's all very nice, I agree, but it's not. But it's a business. Business, Yeah, yeah, I would love that they would save seven million against the cap if they move. It's our money, right, well, and there is a point where it's good business to have a team
that doesn't alienate your fan base. And they could blow it all up, get rid of Tannehill and Henry and they might, but that that has its own risk to it, as they alienated the fan base and they traded a J. Brown. Yeah, your fans like well, lose interest in you for two or three. I wouldn't be upset if the Titans had to go through a miserable two and fifteen season to get the number one overall pick next year when Caleb
Williams is coming out. Just throwing that out there, But I don't know if the Titans, like Mike rabel is not a coach who's like, yeah, let's just do a year of losing. That sounds fun, Like that's not how it doesn't seem. So can I throw out one more? I know we're it's spicy, wait, but can I just
just put a bow on that? So? Do you? And what Patrick's saying is, certainly there's merit to it, like the idea that he's one of the greatest Titans ever set every record, give him the statue, retires a Titan. But in terms of the short and long term interests of the team, do you want him on the team week one? I think the Titans, if they can trade Henry for a second round pick, they should do that.
But it's also the same team that like locked Steve McNair out of the building in what like two thousand and three or whatever, and then he went and signed for with the Ravens, who was in a huge rival at the time, totally different ownership management and everything. I'm trying to think home for the Cowboys. Cut Zeke, don't resign Pollard Henry to the Cowboys. I see him going to Yeah, an interesting if they Cincinnati cut Joe Mixon, get Derrick Henry weird, All right, go ahead, Okay, sorry.
Jalen Ramsey, who I really do think is gonna get traded. So does he to the Patriots for the number fourteen overall pick and Kendrick Bourne. I mean he's under contract. I think he's a useful player. I think he's better than what the Patriots have shown him to be, so you might as well throw him. And Ramsey's not gonna cost as much as he was to get in Los Angeles. But man, doesn't he feel that that Stefan Gilmore, big, physical Taiwah type of cornerback sort of at a discount.
This is when Bill likes to swoop in. It does. It does make a whole lot of sense, and it feels like it's gonna happen. Now. Yes, it's gonna be Jalen Ramsey in the Patriots uniform. Everybody's gonna it's like, oh wow, we we slept on him because he got beat those five or six times. But this guy's actually had a pretty good season fourteen overall. I think actually could get it done potentially. Who pooped on Detroit and said why would you go from LA to Detroit? Who
said that? Uh? When the Jalen Ramsey, Michael Parsons, Micah Parsons like, why would you go for La to Foxborough in a non Tom Brady era? Well, in this case, he doesn't on some level doesn't have a choice. Yeah, you know, he signed a nice sexist franchise in modern times. No, but uh, he signed a big, big contract. Maybe you have to give him a little extra. But he's doe
seventeen million dollars this year. That's the thing with these long contracts is they become very tradeable and you might be incentivized to give him a little short term bump to make him happy. But his next three years he is only due forty six million dollars, which is, you know, a great contract. That's that's uh, the contract that Carlton Davis got essentially last year. They're probably gonna do it. I can be good. I kind of don't get why
the Rams feel like they have to. But I get that they don't really have another avenue to get picks and they feel like they maybe need that. Now. I know you said Patrick that you know he got beat seven times, but he's actually still great. The Rams are interest did in trading him. Maybe they some of their self scouting is like, maybe it's time to get out
before we can't get out on this one. Well, the thing is, I think Jalen Ramsey has extra years that we may not con because he may not be playing corner for the rest of his career, Like he's gonna make that transition at some point, and I think that's yeah. I could picture Jalen Ramsey orchestrating a trade and being on the Dolphins or something. I feel like he would seems like a guy would like Miami. I don't know, the cold weather. Jalen's kind of a Hollywood dude to me.
I think I just see him in that Darrell Reeves one year in New England, Stefan Gilmour. It's just like that, that's what Bill likes. I'm just thinking Bill's type likes the big physical as veteran guys. Yeah, to get rings, that's not who the Patriots are anywhere. They don't have that s more in terms of free agency and in the trade market. If these guys control where they go, a little bit fair. But the Gregg's point, Jalen doesn't really have a choice in this. In this aspect, he's
he can control. He's got ways of doing things. Remember how he got from the Jacksonville, LA. That's fair because he pulled up in the Brinks truck at training camp. He said, I would like to be compensated, and Tom Coffin was like no, and he got He got everything he wanted. I think Jayalen will get what he wants. Sneaky twenty nine. I don't know why. I'm surprised that he's been around a while though, old Tom Hall of Famer. Yeah, now, neither couple. I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know about
the now thing. But let's say he doesn't make any more All pros in his career. He already has more All pros than some cornerbacks in the do you he's so you're saying he's his salaries manageable? Is that where you think New England should be spending the bulk of their offseason money Their piggyback or should it be ho.
He'd be a great pickup for most any team. There might be something and I don't know if it's for soonality or what it is that I just get the feeling that Jalen Ramsey helped the Rams get a championship, become a great defense and they feel like that relationship was great and that like that maybe it ran its course for whatever reason, because otherwise I don't understand why they would trade him. He still seems like he's playing at a high level. Three team, first time, first team
All Pro. That's that's a good start. The top headline on ESPN right now is out of the darkness Colan Rodgers exits Oregon facility. They just know that's gonna get love. SEO masterpiece all right, that was navigating trade season and free agency presented by Toyota. Those are good ones. I think. I thought we did an excellent work today, and I don't I don't want to, you know, naval gays on that level and pat ourselves on the back Barry Harrowood style.
But I really do think all of those trades make sense and I would be surprised if not one of them. If we we go over whatever. I think one of those trades will happen in some capacity. That's why not just makes sense. They're also fun fun, They were fun, and that ray one because I don't like the picture. I think there's an irony also greggy to the tsunami, which is a horrific act of it. It's a little tricky for the brand Mother Nature, and yet it's so fun for us. The tsunami in the in the context
of professional football transactions, is that interesting. It's crossed my mind when I send send out like a celebratory gift of an actual tsunami and then think this is there's something wrong here and it's a problem, but you don't stop because it's good for the brand. I might stop now now that I've put this out there. I had to google Barry Horror. But a wave is a fundamental partial. It's one of the great Jewish wrestlers of all times.
Had never heard of him, but uh, I think he actually had to start off dad on his shorts like he was or a necklace. He was like one of the great Um Hammond Eggers of the eighties and early nineties. He was he was always defeated, but he kind of had a little swag to him. Um and the real ones know what I'm talking about. Harrowitz, All right, that's it, Patrick, You've done beautiful work with us. Thank you, Thank you. Guys. Are you going to sleep now? How does it work?
Absolutely in moments. We'll be back next week, combine week with Mark Sessler joining us again. Until then, he lookal