¶ Life as an Existential Experience
or maybe you never get to somebody else's version of six , but your version of six has to be custom to you . My version of six is different than Alan's version of six . It's just it's not the same . Things are different . I can't expect to have the same life as Alan .
I'm not the same as Alan and I'm not willing to do the same things and I'm not willing to do things in the same way , I know one person I'm thinking of who will be a multi-millionaire for the rest of his life and he works one-tenth as hard as you and I , one-tenth as hard as you and I , and he will always be wealthy because he was born into a family
with generational wealth . That is a thing , but that doesn't mean Kevin and I should work less and complain about that . We can do all we can with all we have .
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Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . Today for episode number 1890 , get your . Today for episode number 1890 , get your philosophical caps on what do you think life is supposed to be ?
Alan and I were talking and again we're always trying to think of really good episodes what are we going through , what are clients going through , what are people going through ? What do we want to talk about ? What do we think needs to be talked about , all that stuff .
And Alan said he said , brother , do you think life is supposed to be easy or do you think life is supposed to be hard ? And I said I don't think life is supposed to be anything . I think life is life and you ? I think life is supposed to be just an experience . I don't know , how do you ? You can't know . You can't know what it is .
It is what you think it is or it isn't , or it is what you think it isn't . That's really all it is at the end of the day . So Alan's like dude , let's do an episode on that . And I was like let's do it . And now we're doing it .
Shout out All the listeners and viewers we're incredibly grateful for you to be on this journey with us . See this I was on a Relationship Talks coaching session recently .
See this and oh , ace and Fudge mug . I'm showing my Ace and Fudge mug to the camera . I'm sorry for interrupting , all right .
That's all right . And I asked the female in the relationship . I said do you consider yourself an existentialist ? And she said I don't think so . And I said do you know what an existentialist is ? And she said yeah , someone who contemplates life . I said exactly , her partner is big time an existentialist .
I'm talking big time , always contemplating the universe , why we're here , why he does what he does , why the government's set up the way it is , why we have to go to work , why do and don't like . Just why , why , why , why , why ?
When I was a kid it was why emily and I we recently went to her mother's birthday and they had a big box of all her drawings and stuff as a kid . It's been fascinating all the letters that she wrote as a kid , all the different projects . It's been really cool . Report cards , all that stuff , uh .
And she found letters that she wrote to her mom hey , zach , her older brother is breaking the rules . How come I have to follow the rules and Zach doesn't ? And you don't punish him , but you do like she was calling out the BS and the , the , the stuff when she was a little kid and there's some other stuff in there . That's just , oh , it's so obvious .
You were an existentialist . No one else is thinking about that . At seven years old , she's contemplating the world and I realized we are such existentialists . Who asks that question Do you think life is supposed to be easy ? Some people just go through their day and that's okay . That's okay , but not on this podcast .
You're here listening and watching and we're going deep , hyperconscious , acutely aware . What does it mean ? Change the way you think , change the way you act , change the way you live , how the world works , but , more importantly , why it works that way .
Deeper understanding Understanding Kev , understanding me , understanding podcasting , understanding the world , understanding everything we talk about is a deeper understanding of you , other people in the world , and when you learn about yourself , other people in the world , now you can make choices that are more in alignment with who you are , choices that are more in alignment
with who you are , choices that are more in alignment with what's best , choices that are good for yourself , others and the world , and I just believe so deeply . It's called a worldview . So there's something called CBT Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and the triad of CBT is behavior , thought and feelings .
So your feelings create behaviors , your behaviors create your thoughts . Your create your feelings . It's sometimes it's feelings create thoughts . It goes both ways , so to speak . But the point of this is where are your thoughts coming from ? What's the record playing ? What is your world view ? And the way cbt clinicians help their clients is through .
The metaphor is putting on glasses . So if kev puts on rose-colored glasses , he's going to see everyone and everything better than they really are , which means what he's going to see ? Everyone and everything inaccurately . We inflate , we deflate , we omit , we all lie to ourselves and to each other .
And as we mature and grow older , they're called cognitive distortions . You basically see the world more accurately . Everyone can look back to when they were in high school . Kev , give me an example Something you thought in high school that was just inaccurate .
It's pretty spot on . I was locked in . I've been dialed in since I was a wee toddler man . I haven't known about this shit since I came out .
Everything , man , give me one tangible that I thought about the world no , no , anything . That you thought that was inaccurate when you were a kid . It should not be that hard .
Well , I think it's everything .
So it's like oh okay , Give me one example . You're in high school and you thought what ?
You thought being jacked , somebody , somebody saying , hey , what hurts ? It's like everything hurts , all of it , everything .
You want everything . Everything hurts , okay . When you were a kid , you thought being jacked would get you love .
It has , yeah , it's worked , though I mean that has worked in the past . No , it hasn't . It has , yeah , no it got you . Lust , lust , it didn't get you love . Well , if you can't differentiate between the two , they're the same thing , aren't they ?
No , that means you're also inaccurate .
I would say , I mean , yeah , but when I was a kid I wasn't really thinking that , man , money solves all your problems . Money solves all of your problems . Okay , the truth is , money does solve some of your problems . It doesn't solve all your problems .
There you go . There's a perfect example of a cognitive distortion , aka you think inaccurately . People say the truth will set you free . I say accurate thinking will set you free , and that's really all I'm trying to do . So what Kev ? On this journey he was trying to be the person that he needed most at his darkest time Still Still is .
I'm trying to help people think more accurately , because I saw the world so much less accurately and therefore allowed people to stay in my life that I wish I hadn't , because I had such rose colored glasses . I wanted to believe that everyone was good and that no one was lying and no one manipulate . I've been manipulated , I've been bullied and I just I did .
I wanted to see the best in people . I really did . I was like Mr See the best in people . I really did . I was like mr see the best in everyone . And it was so naive , dude and and it also came with a gift which I see the best in people , so I see their potential . I can see people's potential so well .
So , anyways , my point of this is thank you , listener or viewer , for being with us , because not a lot of people . The world would be a better place if there was more existentialists , if there was more people who contemplate their existence and who try to be better people every day .
So you are in the minority , unfortunately , and I'm so proud of all of you and thank you for being on this journey with us , because I have to have the courage to say that because , honestly , some people really are on autopilot and they are walking through their life , and I am somewhat guilty of that as well , because , pre-car accident , there was a lot of
things that I wasn't questioning , that I needed to be questioning . So here we are , let's question life , kev . Life isn't supposed to be hard , it isn't supposed to be easy . Life is what it is . What do you mean ?
Well , I didn't say it is what it is . You gotta be careful with that . That's , that's a , it is what it is . Usually you say after something happens and you're just like , yeah , it is what it is , whatever . Okay , what did you say ? I said life isn't supposed to be anything .
I don't , I don't believe that when you're born it's predestined that you become anything . I think , yeah , it ends up . It's just a , a , it's a game . I feel I've always thought that life is a game and we all start on different places on the board and we all get different rolls of the die . Some people roll a seven and they have a wealthy family .
It's like , all right , cool , they rolled a seven and the next roll is different . Then something happens and they Did you roll a seven , no thing happens , and they roll a seven . No , definitely not . No , I think I probably rolled like a two , maybe two . I think six is usually the highest you can go on a die .
So I'd say probably like a one , one out of six . I'd say , but probably a one , and then the next opportunity I got to roll a die , I probably rolled like a one again , and then I rolled a lot of ones . You know , I'm sorry , I just no .
No , it's true , it's true , I rolled a lot of ones and then eventually I rolled like a three and then I rolled a five , but I kept trying .
I think if we could break success into five things , I think it would be success , holistic success , not just achievement externally Self-belief , self-worth , attitude , competence community Influences , yeah , influences Community Community Nice . We've got to do an episode on that . That's fine , you can work on .
I've already forgotten what they are , so I'll have to check after . It's how it goes . It's why I say it , and then it goes away self-belief , self-worth , yeah , attitude , yeah , competence , yeah community , community . Okay , those , those five . We'll put that down . Is it harder if you roll a one ?
Is it potentially harder to have self-belief and self-worth and attitude and competence and community ? Yes , I'm not saying circumstantially , it's not harder , because I think that's bullshit . I think that Somebody asked me on a podcast one time .
They said if there's somebody in a much less developed country right now listening to this podcast , do you believe they can be ? Essentially it was can anybody achieve their dreams ? And I said as much as I used to think so . It's way harder for certain people .
It depends on what the dream is .
Yeah yeah , if you don't have internet connection and you live in a village somewhere , it's going to be way harder for you to start a podcast and grow . It's just . There are circumstances .
you're stacked against you more , however , and you still should try to better your situation .
You should still try to better your situation .
I got in a rumble . Brene Brown , she uses the word rumble for any time there's a conflict in a relationship and I think rumble is a vulnerable place to be and I was on with a woman named Debra and we got in a rumble because she I thought some of the things she was saying was inaccurate .
And I think saying things that are inaccurate I now associate with being irresponsible , because of my deep belief that accurate thinking would help us all . I use the self-driving car . If the car thinks there's a road there , it's actually a cliff .
People are going to drive off a cliff and then , you know , then blame themselves or blame the world , and when , in reality and it's just inaccurate thinking , you just didn't know . And unfortunately in this game of life , for lack of better phrasing , it's an infinite game , not a finite game . It's finite games within an infinite game , which I'll get into .
But I essentially said to her I just don't believe that that's accurate . I'm not trying to be unkind and this was really hard for me because it's her show and I'm not trying to be unkind , I'm just want to add value , but I don't actually think that's accurate . I don't think everyone is going to achieve that level and she said well , what do you mean ?
I said , well , we all are given certain potential . I said I would . I've been on podcasts with podcasters who I know could not reach the level that Kevin can , just because they don't have the competence , they don't have the genetic potential . Even when you were a kid , you were probably a strong communicator compared to the statistical norm .
When have you ever not gotten along with people ? Your whole life ?
you've gotten along with people perfectly well , well , one of the best ways to get along with people is just not to say anything . That doesn't mean you're a strong communicator .
I'm a good listener . You rallied an entire jury against me , Alan . It wasn't hard .
You weren't very likable , it wasn't hard . It's not like I was some leader , it's just like , hey , you were a leader , though . Hey , hey , what do you think ? Fuck this guy , right ? Yeah , okay , cool .
Nice Guilty , I'm telling you , your perception of self is off on that .
¶ Rolling the Dice of Life
You , even in the early days of podcasting , were more gifted at communication than most people , even at the beginning . Well , I appreciate that I appreciate that .
I don't recognize it because I didn't know what I was doing and I just was talking into a mic and it was like this is fun . That was it . For me it was this is cool .
Most people who are gifted in a certain area don't recognize it because they think nothing of it . You and your in bodybuilding , you thought nothing of it , you were just jacked , you didn't even try that hard .
I mean you did , you worked hard , you worked hard . He always tries to lessen it . No , I don't , I don't . He's always like Kev .
Kev , I'm certain I was more dialed in than you and you were more jacked than me . I'm certain it wasn't close how much effort I put in versus you . I had the whole formula . You just had lift heavy , eat lots of food and , yeah , I know it was more than that .
But okay , fair , the point is is that you people who have gifts don't recognize the value of those gifts because they've always had them . I was on a podcast yesterday , said I really wish that , and he was very honest . I appreciated this . He said I really wish that someone like me , my ideas and stuff .
I feel like some of them would have worked if I was better looking like you and the old me would have said no , no , like no , that's true , that's fair . It would be different . Now , can you hide behind that as an excuse ? Right , listen , some of us are good looking , some of us aren't . Some of us are tall , some of us are short .
I like to use dogs as a metaphor . We're all they're all dogs , but there's 240 species or whatever . We're all different types of human beings . If you don't think that's true , go swim with michael phelps or go play basketball with lebron james . It's not going to be close . It never could be , no matter how hard you try .
However , your worldview can be positive . You can take a hard rolling of a one , rolling of a one , rolling of a one , rolling of a one , and you can make it a two and roll a two and roll a two and roll a two and then roll a three and roll a three , but you can't get taller . You can't become a math genius just because you try real hard .
I went to college with math geniuses . I'm telling you there's some people who are just built different and they're working at Apple right now and that's okay and honestly , there's things that you are world-class compared to them . I mean , they are children . They can't change a tire to save their life , and I understand , neither can I .
I actually did change my own tire . But the point is is not everyone gets everything and some of us get more than others , not only in potential , but also in terms of upbringing . Some people's upbringing were born with a last name that had generational wealth . Some people do are born with generational wealth .
I know one person I'm thinking of who will be a multimillionaire for the rest of his life and he works one-tenth as hard as you and I One-tenth as hard as you and I , and he will always be wealthy because he was born into a family with generational wealth . That is a thing , but that doesn't mean Kevin and I should work less and complain about that .
We can do all we can with all we have , and we have many blessings . Blessings is the wrong word . We have many things to be grateful for and we have many , many , many things to not that were lesser than optimal .
I would say that's accurate . Both of those are accurate . I rolled a couple ones in my day Same , but I think that's the thing . That is what happens , is you start . When you start , you don't get to roll the first one . That's the hard thing that first one's rolled for you .
Where your parents are , where you're born .
Yeah , what are you born into ? You have zero control over that . Then from there I think it's really easy to say well , yeah , I rolled a one , so that's it . It's almost like the die I roll only has ones and twos on it , so I don't know , it's not even worth rolling anymore . I just don't think that's true . I don't think that's true .
It took me a long time to achieve any level of external success . It took me 25 years and I guess in the grand scheme of things that's not a super long time . But trust me , I thought I was Jeffed . I thought I was so Jeffed . I know it's funny when I tell the stories and Alan always laughs because it is funny .
But it wasn't funny at the time .
I was terrified . I was terrified . So I was working at a gas station , full-time training to be a professional fighter . I used to have customers that would come in that made fun of me . They're like Kev , there's no way that's going to work . I'm like dude , fuck you . First of all , why are you going to crap on my dreams , man ?
And also get out of the car , yeah get out of the car .
Let's see , Let me test my skills on you . I'm like dude , why that's what you do ? You come down to the gas station at 7 in the morning to crap on the guy who has dreams like what's that about makes them feel big , my friend ? well , hey , this is what I say now , see at the top , son , I'll see at the top I .
I was studying to be a personal trainer because , like I'm love fitness , martial arts , if I could train people that'd be the best . I , out of courtesy , tell my boss one day hey , this won't be for a couple months , but I just want to give you a heads up . I'm studying to take the personal trainer exam , so I'll be looking for new jobs .
I got to call it 5.15 the next day . Don't bother coming in , you're fired . Huh , that backfired . Is that ? Even I don't think that's legal . Is that legal ? Can you do that ? Well , do whatever you want back then , then man pretty much so then I am now , however , I'm so sorry you're good man .
It's only funny because of where he ended up . Yeah , you know , it's fair . I don't know how old I was I really gotta .
I have to like make a flow chart of my life , needed a job . I have , no , no experience in anything , so I go to .
I go to the hospital because there's a job , fisherman , though you are an avid fisherman though I wasn't as avid at the time , no , I was .
That was probably in the depths of my fishing days . I go to the hospital because there's an opening for a project person slash housekeeper . I'm like , hey , I like working with my hands . What does it entail ? Unfortunately , the only shift we have is overnight , but it does pay $1.50 more an hour . I'm in , let's do it . Next level nation . What is happening ?
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Here , take us back to where you were mentally and emotionally there , Like really .
Let's go there for a minute . I felt like such a loser . All my friends were at college partying all the time and I was . Yeah , I felt like such a loser . I had no idea where I was gonna go . It's like I was just jumping from thing to thing . I felt so directionless . I felt like every I . This is this is why I like the die analogy .
I felt like every time I rolled , I rolled a one . Every time it was a one . There was only ones available , like where am I going to work ? I remember one of my buddies worked at a Raytheon a big , a big company and he's like dude , I can try to get you in . There are positions .
It's like dude , they're not going to hire me , no way , I have nothing to offer on paper . I work really hard , I'll outwork anybody , but they don't know that . Everybody says that Right . So yeah , it was that . I just am stuck man .
I'm stuck , I'm in trouble . I just keep thinking about well , you are an avid fisherman , so I wasn't having fishermen come to find out .
Nobody cares when you put that on your resume , it doesn't help it doesn't help . Then after the , then after the hospital , I did the personal trainer thing . I quit that after six months and paid a thousand dollars to get out of my contract because it was freaking terrible .
You just felt trapped as hell , like you didn't feel like you had a bright future .
I felt out of control . It was I'm living life based on circumstance , not choice . Things happen to me and then I have to just deal with it , as opposed to saying I want this , what would you ?
say to Kev I wanted , if you were , you're you're the mentor of kev what would you tell him ? Because the truth is he wasn't as trapped as he thought . However , he was definitely not exactly a golden ticket , right .
So I think there's there's two frames , there's one . One frame is dude , you gotta stop . You gotta stop feeling sorry for yourself .
Like , come on , you gotta stop feeling sorry for yourself , because if you come on , you've got to stop feeling sorry for yourself , because if you feel sorry for yourself forever , you're just going to find ways to stay feeling sorry for yourself . That would be one . That would be the hard little gentle kick in the ass . Come on , kev , you're better than this .
You're better than this . That would be one . The second one would be Hmm , yeah , we've got to do something to shift the tide here .
Mentor . You need a mentor .
Well , I would mentor him . I just don't know what I would say to him .
No , no , no . I mean , I think he needed a mentor . You just always needed a mentor .
I don't think he knew what a mentor was .
Yeah , we don't talk about that anymore . It's hard to know you need a mentor when you don't know what you want to do .
I don't talk about this enough because I don't know why we're going back to certain fundamentals that we used to talk about at the Hyperconscious Podcast , because I feel like we were on to some things back then that now we can bring back into the fold .
One of the reasons because , statistically speaking , lose lose your dad , it to stepfather leaves at 14 , kind of lost three families by the time you're 14 years old , I mean , they're literally free lunch at school because we're so broke . There was no family wealth . No , my real last name isn't even Lazarus . And then just all the , all the stuff .
One of the things that I never lost self-belief always had a , for some reason , a big , bright future in my mind only in my mind , by the way , because nothing in my present was there were , I mean , just atrocities . And one of the things that did really help when I was with the WPI kids yesterday is , if we look hanging out , we were on a zoom meeting .
I remember thinking going to WPI was the best decision I ever made . It got me out of the small-minded town and I was exposed to a global group of individuals that were from all over the world and they were all freaking , super smart and they came from walks of life that were different . I mean a lot of my friends from college they were rich kids , man .
I mean , I was the only one who , like couldn't afford . They all have cars . They can like go out to eat , I like can't go . I never talk about this . I was like really broke in high school and college . I'm talking really broke , but yet we found a way . I think we found a way to not make it . Maybe I hid it or something , I don't know .
Maybe I made it seem like we weren't , because we had a nice home but we didn't know how to keep the home and the family , and so one of the things that really helped tremendously was just I did . I don't know if mentors found me or if I found them or if it was both , but I always had , like , stephen Bittar . I've never talked about Stephen Bittar .
He was a professor , my electrical engineering professor , stephen Bittar , he would mentor me and he would talk to me about life , and I think I was curious . I was on a podcast yesterday where Cameron he said , I'm perpetually fascinated by and I think about that . It's like that's a really great quote . A great quote perpetually fascinated by .
I am perpetually fascinated by life . I learned all about history from him yesterday the , the aristocracy , all this kind of stuff . I'm just sitting there listening because I'm fascinated , and we talked about more than that . But I always had mentors .
I actually don't think many of them were very good , to be completely honest , I'm not trying to be a dick , I just in . In hindsight it's like oh , you didn't really understand what you were talking about . I remember I emailed one of my best friend's fathers . I emailed him Me . What am I ? 18 , 17 , something like that .
I'm like , hey , this is Alan , I'm considering my career path and I I'm wondering if you think I should go get my MBA right out of college or if you think I should go to work first and then go back and get it . Dude , I never should have been emailing him . He didn't know .
In hindsight , he definitely didn't know he told me to go to work . It's all I had .
So that's one of the things that I guess will
¶ Importance of Mentors and Self-Belief
. I'm very passionate about this , obviously . Are you doing all you can with all you have ? Dude , genetically , my mind , brain potential , it's there . I rolled a six . I know that . Nature and nurture Okay , nature is what you're born with in terms of your physical , mental , emotional , spiritual capacity .
Some people are mentally challenged I don't know what the politically correct term is . They are not born the same . We are not born the same . Okay , we all have different genetic potential . Nature I rolled a six . Baby . I rolled a six . Good for you .
Nurture I rolled a negative six and somehow I made a negative six into , like this amazing life that we have , and I'm fascinated perpetually by how the hell we did that , and one of the ways we did that is mentors , even though they were sucky . So start where you are , and sucky is relative to what we do for people now .
A negative six . If the person's a negative two , it's a plus four so exactly it's it's context yeah , so mentors are very important .
When you got a mentor dude , you started to flourish well , I told you about one of my early mentors .
I was 13 years of age at the time , played in a local baseball tournament , didn't win , came in second damn , but was still rewarded with a six-pack , a bud heavy , tall boys and the latest issue of Girls Gone Wild on DVD . How old were you ? 13, ? I think 13 or 14, . I think Young , too young . Hey , that's poor mentor . 14 or 15 .
I won't say it wasn't 13. , 14 or hey , that's poor mentor . 14 or 15 . I won't say it wasn't 13. , 14 or 15 . That's a poor mentor . I didn't have my license . I know that . Yeah , yeah , probably 14 . It wasn't great .
Can you imagine , you and I with a 13-year-old ? I was with 19 , 18 , and 20 yesterday . Hey , congratulations . A six-pack , a tall boy , bud heavy with a porno video Light porn .
Light porn light porn .
Brother .
At least it was a six and not a 12 . What's your name ? You know what I'm saying ? Yeah , reckless for sure . At the time it was like hell yes , this is the absolute best , this is going to be the best night ever . And then my buddy went to pull out the DVD and he snapped it in half and I almost beat . Oh how dare you , sir , Gentle with it .
What are you doing ? You just wrecked the whole night , Can't ? We came in second . We didn't even win the championship , you just broke the DVD man .
That is one of the funniest stories of all time .
You broke your heart when he broke that DVD . It was like this is all I have .
I know some of my clients and team members are laughing their ass off right now . It was great .
That is . I was so excited .
That is devastating news when you're 13, . That is Kiki , and I found a magazine in the woods . We hid it under a stump and we used to have to go out . That's so funny , man .
What we used to have to go out . That's so funny , man . What a weird time to be alive your kids these days , that's so weird .
Yeah , if you have a phone , you're good . You're good . Yeah , we had to hide magazines in the woods . The neighbor's dog grabbed it . I got in trouble for that yeah , neighbor's dog got it , ripped it up , put it all over their yard .
Oh my God , yeah , snitch . I used to download it on Kaza back in the day . Kaza was virus .
Come up here , mom .
I'm downloading the new Lifehouse CD .
This has gone off the rails , of course .
I don't know . What is life supposed to be ? Life's supposed to be anything . What's art supposed to be ? Nothing ? It's supposed to be what you make it . What's music supposed to be ? It's supposed to be anything . What's art supposed to be ? Nothing ? It's supposed to be what you make it . What's music supposed to be ? It's supposed to be what you make it .
I think things are supposed to be what you make it . The problem is , if you make it in a way that you don't want it to be , you assume it's not right . And maybe it's not right based on where you want to go , but it's not .
You have a lot more control over your life than you think you do , but it probably requires and I'm not going to say the five things that we said are the things I don't know . That was just off the cuff , but if you have self-belief , you're more capable than someone who doesn't In certain ways .
If you have self-worth , you're more capable in ways than someone who doesn't . You can set boundaries better , whatever . If you have competence . If you're a good speaker , you're more likely to succeed at something that requires speaking . If you have a positive attitude , that goes . Most of the jobs I've gotten is because I had a good attitude .
Yeah , and work ethic A good attitude and work ethic that's what every business owner is looking for 100% A good attitude and work ethic .
We can work with that . I know that now . At the time I didn't . And then community If you have people around you that want you to do good and they want to see you do good , and you have all those other things , who knows ? I literally go out of my way to help people that are good people . I go out of my way to help people that are good people .
I go out of my way not to help people that aren't good people . I'm not interested in helping you . I don't go find someone else . I'd rather help someone who's good for the world 100% . So that's another thing too . But yeah , if you roll a 1 , if a 1 was rolled for you , you can roll again . Now , are you going to go from a 1 to a 6 ?
Maybe not , maybe not , but you can go from a 1 to a 2 . You know , 2 to a 3 , 3 to a 4 , and maybe you don't ever get to 6 , or maybe you never get to somebody else's version of 6 , but your version of six , but your version of six has to be custom to you . My , my version of six is different than alan's version of six .
It's just , it's not the same . It things are different . I can't expect to have the same life as alan . I'm not the same as alan and I'm not willing to do the same things and I'm not willing to do things in the same way , and there's just so many things that go into it . So , on a very hyper conscious episode , today it's fire .
I absolutely loved it . So I'm in a very hyper-conscious episode today . It's fire . I absolutely loved it . My main takeaway is find a mentor who leads by example and has . It takes a lot of humility to get a mentor , but there are people out there . I think it's hard to lecture people into success .
I think lectures are a part of it , studying is a part of it , books are a part of it . This podcast is a part of it . But get a coach or a mentor , get someone who can guide you . Get someone who can tell you what they wish . I coach a 24-year-old . I was a mess at 24 . This dude is crushing it . He's going to crush it . Mark my words .
I said mathematically . You know who you are Mathematically , in 10 years you're going to be . He already has 100,000 YouTube views . You're're not . He does three shorts a day , personally edited himself , publishes them , unbelievable tracks , metrics , habits .
You're gonna be amazing if you , if , if you can stick with it , you're gonna be unbelievably successful mathematically speaking , and we'll keep tweaking and along the way . So get a mentor . You need a good mentor , everybody needs a good mentor seriously , and make sure it's someone who leads by example , who's not full of shit to the last episode .
Well , when that person gets to 150,000 on YouTube , I'll come up . We'll come out to where you are . I'll bring a six-pack tall boys . And the latest , the latest Girls are wild . Yeah , the latest , I'm on my way . I'm on , send me the address . That's always yeah , that's always super funny . To me . It's interesting .
The stuff at the time that seems like the coolest stuff ever is probably the stuff that's most misleading . Yeah , you know , that's like that was the .
We gotta start telling more of those stories , man . Those are important provides context dude . Very last thing I promised I was on with the 19-year-old , 20-year-old and 18-year-old . I remember thinking to myself you guys , they don't know , you guys are going to be fine . The whole world needs engineers . You guys are going to be fine .
I just wanted to sit them down and go . Keep doing what you're doing . Keep getting a little better each day . Don't fail out of school . Get your degree at this school . Get your degree at this school . You guys are going to be fine . I wanted to say listen , all my friends from college are on their way to multimillionaire .
Most of them already are multimillionaires , you guys are going to be fine , but they don't know that at all . They're so , they're still , and they're very humble . I appreciate it . They're insecure and humble . It's like part of me just wants to say , like , listen to NLU each day . It's like part of me just wants to say listen to NLU each day .
We will guide you . I did say check out the podcast , I just don't want to overdo it .
I don't want to overdo it , because I tend to freak people out and scare them away .
When in reality , if they just listen , to this podcast .
Yeah , come with me if you want to live .
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that from .
Terminator .
Terminator yeah , Come with me if you want to Be aligned and fulfilled and successful .
I enjoyed this episode Same . Was there any value ? You think in it , definitely . You think Maybe there was a lesson in it .
I think Little Alan and Little Kevin Would have really Done a good job had we had NLU .
I see I don't , oh yeah , if we had NLU . Yeah , I don't . Oh yeah , if we had NLU . Yeah , yeah , I don't know , man , who knows , I look back on my past a lot differently than you look back on yours . I don't know if anything would have saved me . I think I had to do it the way I did it . I think I had to the right mentor would have .
For sure , I don .
I told them to pound sand . Let me live my life , let me , live , my life . Yeah , but it was , I'd already lived my life .
No , you hit rock bottom and actually had that .
Yeah well , some people call that living life . I lived my life .
You got everything you thought you wanted .
Exactly exactly , and I don't . Nobody could have ever told me that I didn't want that . Good luck , oh . Want that ? Good luck , oh . So you don't think I want my dream body , a six-figure income and a model girlfriend and a sports car . Okay , why , though , don't I want those things ? Isn't that what everybody wants ?
And then you go get it and you realize , ah , some very , very awesome benefits , awesome . But there are also missing pieces that you think are going to get filled in that don't get filled in along the way . That's another episode . It is another episode .
All right , next up a nation , if you are looking for a group of like-minded humans , are into this type of stuff . Deep talks , a little philosophy occasionally , but self-improvement that is really the core of what we do .
That is what we are obsessed with , and the reason we do an episode every day is because we , alan and I , want to lead by example , and if we tell you there's an opportunity to get a little bit better every day , we better be leading the charge on that .
So that's why we do an episode every day , but there's a private Facebook group called Next Level Nation . We'll have the link in the show notes . Love to have you there if you're looking for community .
If anyone is looking for a coach or a mentor , I've been mentoring for 10 years . The first two was free and then the last eight was coaching . And if you're looking for mentor , coach , guide , whatever you want to label it , that's what my coaching is . It's here's where you want to go .
I'm going to help you align to get there , to be both successful and fulfilled . Reach out . I actually just booked I just saw one come through with my man , cameron , and 30 minutes for free breakthrough session and it usually goes over .
Pretty much everything yeah , Pretty much everything that you do goes over Overdeliver . Right now we're late for a meeting . Right now we are 36 minutes late to the meeting we were supposed to have .
However , I have been wondering if you knew . However , we did message the person in advance .
No , I knew that Like responsible individuals , yeah no , I knew that .
Yes , okay , I want to make that .
I'm going to hang you out to dry . This person has no idea . They're probably in the waiting room . They're in the waiting room . I haven't been , I haven't missed a coaching session in a year and a half it's a big deal well , I don't coach with you , so all the meetings that I'm on with you don't fall under that category .
I know but coaching is my number one priority , so if anyone wants to coach conveniently , I will be up at night trying to help you be successful that is fair . I'll be thinking about it . I'll be thinking about it . I'll be your success . Strange hours hey brother , you need to read this . You need to go to sleep , that's what you need to do .
I thought you were going to go another way with that .
I was close and then I was like I feel like I don't want to be disrespectful , I don't want people to think I don't like you want to hang for a bit . You want to go . No , I think we should go . Okay , we're going to go .
I want to go now . You want to hang . You say you want to hang for a bit .
No , I don't . Oh , you want to go ? Okay , here we go , we're going to go . Here's the outro . As always , we love you .
We appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of .
Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University . We love connecting with the Next Level family .
We mean it when we say family . If you ever need anything , please reach out to us directly . Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes .
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