¶ Intro / Opening
Next level nation . Welcome back to another episode of next level university , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode , episode number 1634 . Can your values change today ? For episode number 1635 , it is free style Friday , as you know Freestyle Friday .
We don't have a title for it because I don't know what it's gonna be yet . It's gonna be based on our conversation right now and we're just gonna kind of see what happens . You and I were talking right before the sound .
We were talking about how you and I both wish that we could change without pain , faster , without pain , and I was on a podcast the other day and I was talking about how . One of the questions was what is the one of the one of the lessons you've learned from doing as many episodes as you have ? And I said everybody has adversity .
Even the people who don't think they have adversity . That's usually their adversity . I had someone say to me one time I feel guilty . I Feel guilty struggling because my childhood was sunshine or rainbows compared to yours , and I said I understand that .
I understand what you're saying , but , with all due respect , that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard and I , I , I didn't meant it with in a loving way of like dude , you should be grateful , be very grateful for the childhood you had . That's amazing .
But Just understand that sometimes the lack of adversity is actually adversity , because now you're thinking , well , I didn't have to grind it out and I didn't have to . I didn't have to have thick skin or whatever it is , I didn't have to go without , whatever it may be . So I'm not , I'm not lessening it . Trust me , if you had a great childhood , awesome .
If you are guilty about that , that's something to work through . So I'm not , I'm not lessening that . But before this episode we were talking about how we wish you could change without pain and how I just don't think that's ever really a thing . Yeah , and If it was a thing , you'd never really
¶ Positive pressure is important
it . What a weird life it would be if one bad thing happened to you and then you just change your life forever and then nothing else ever went wrong , ever . Yeah it's almost like you'd never . How would you learn lessons that way ? I don't know if you could ever learn lessons that way .
Some of the most powerful lessons I've ever learned are based on moments that I wish I didn't have . Same , and I just think that's kind of the way . That's kind of the way it's set up .
I think the universe , the worlds , everything , success , fulfillment , all that is just set up in a weird way where it's usually If you want something you don't have , there's usually some sort of toll you have to pay . Is that toll pain ? I'm not saying that . Is that toll resistance ? I'm not necessarily saying that .
It's probably something that you don't necessarily want . It's probably something that you go to us , you go to a restaurant and you get the meal you want and it comes with some sort of side dish that you don't like . Well , I really want this , but is there any way I can get it without that ? Well , no , that's . I mean , that's kind of how we make it .
We make it with these vegetables . Do you want or not ? Yeah , I'll have it . I'll just eat around the vegetables . I think that's kind of how success is . Some things are gonna come with it that you don't want .
Unfortunately , it's just up to you to decide how much of those things you don't want , how much of those you're you're willing to put up with and Kind of go from there . That's very much the , I think the frame I've been in based on All the stuff that we have going on .
A lot of that it comes with Things that you don't necessarily want , but I think those things , as long as they're constructive , are good for you . I think positive pressure is important and I don't know if you can change without it . So I would say , lean into it if you can .
I wrote a blog recently about my struggles . It was the five s's of success sacrifice , struggle , suffering , success . And then the last one , sustain , which you came up with . Great cuz you Realized you've achieved many of your dreams and then you're like oh , now .
I got a sustain just as hard I got a sustain .
That's like oh , I bought my dream home . Oh , that's a hell of a mortgage .
Huh , so , and everything is like that , by the way , you know , I found my dream partner , emilia , over the moon beyond my wildest dreams , quite frankly and she's the hardest working person I've said that many times in the show that I've ever met and sometimes that can be challenging in ways I never expected , but here's the key it's better than the alternative .
Emilia will always say I'm so thankful that you're so grateful for me . And I always say it's because I know what the opposite is . I had a relationship that was just so not good In comparison . And here's the the philosophical question if I didn't , would I appreciate Emilia as much ?
Probably not .
I had a past partner who was not ambitious , was not hard-working , was actually quite lazy , and it was so unbelievably difficult for me to be myself and To coexist with this person . Now a lot of that is on me . I Take ownership for that .
But when Emilia is working late or we have a ton to get done on a Sunday when I just want to relax , I remember that . I Remember being in a relationship where the other person didn't want to get anything done and I felt like we were going nowhere fast and that's not fulfilling . Everyone has to find their own sort of Level of adversity . There's two .
I talked about this recently on the podcast . There's two types of adversity . There's the adversity that life throws at you . That's a lot of childhood , because childhood you didn't choose where you grew up . You didn't choose your parents . You didn't choose what town you were born in . You didn't choose what country would you were born in .
You didn't choose your culture , your ethnicity or your , your genetic background . You didn't choose your , your genetics . All that stuff was pre determined . But when you're born now you start making choices and eventually you become an adult . And when you're an adult you really start making choices and you have to remember that the two types of adversity .
The first one is life throws a lot at you and then you choose how to respond to it . But the second type of adversity is the adversity from climbing tall mountains . The second type of type of adversity is the adversity that comes from choosing in advance to do something great . A Lot of people want to be a mother .
Think about the level of adversity that comes with that . One dream Can any of us even imagine , unless we're mothers ? You try to imagine nine months , bodies completely different . At least nine months
¶ Two types of adversity
Depending , and then after that , sleepless nights , and Then after that , right so , but it's awesome to have that dream . What are you gonna do ? Not have kids , and that's an option to . By the way , for anyone who doesn't want to have kids , that's an option to the road up the road .
Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Although you've considered adopting , I know so we'll see . But if that's your dream , you're not gonna be fulfilled not doing it but but you're gonna hate when the adversity is coming , because that's human nature and I think it's freeing Kev , I do . I think it's freeing to be like , wow , this sucks and that's okay .
I just think there's something freeing about that having a kid . I think there's a duality , I think there's the . This is my dream and this is what I wanted , and I know what the opposite is , which is settling for less than my dreams , but this still kind of sucks . I just feel like that's I have Home .
Now I've achieved so many my dreams , the relationship of
¶ Adversity enriches existence
my dreams . We have adorable pets , but there was a time when we got our third pet , tiger Lily , when I was like this is the worst , this is ridiculous . It wasn't that bad . I know I'm probably being dramatic , but it felt like terrible , honestly .
And I had this one tea kettle moment I called a tea kettle moment where I just like nah , I just it's like the pressure cooker and you just move the little thing .
Yeah , it's , yeah , you know , but it up and I was like I knew this was gonna happen , right , I had one of those , but I wasn't at anyone , it wasn't at Emilia , it was just like in the house . Can knew this was gonna happen , right , and what is this right ? What is this ?
This is , I'm massively interrupted throughout every one of my mornings because we have , you know , I , three pets that are sometimes obnoxious , and , again , I know that's nothing compared to children .
Here's my point it is impossible to live a fulfilling life without adversity , and I think that it's impossible to grow without adversity , and so adversities get thrown at us and Adversities come . Actually , bigger adversities come when you set big goals . But the alternative and this is what gets me through is the alternative is worse .
Some people think life is supposed to be easy , and when it's hard , they think something's wrong . I think life is supposed to be fairly terrible , and when it's not terrible , I think that's awesome . And I know I'm playful with that , but I'm not kidding . Life is not supposed to be Butterflies and rainbows it . It genuinely isn't .
We're hunters and gatherers , were 200,000 year old brains . We have a lot of technologies and comforts , particularly in certain countries , but at the end of the day , we used to have to hunt and gather our food . Now we can like , click and have something delivered to our door it's . I just like to keep that perspective . I love to keep the perspective of All .
Of this is awesome . I have a 30-second commute . I'm talking to Kevin through the internet , through the waves , the waves the world through the world through technologies and yes , our adversities are tough . Yes , 14-hour days are tough .
Yes , we have challenges and problems , like everyone , but it's much better than the alternative , which is sitting on the couch feeling sorry for yourself , doing a whole lot of nothing , not growing , not learning , not striving . I choose striving , I always have and I always will , and I am convinced that the human Condition is unfulfilling without some striving .
Everyone has a different level of striving , everyone has a different type of striving , everyone has unique striving , but I do believe that striving , not arriving , is actually where fulfillment and growth and contribution is , and I do believe that that's why a lot of people who retire early end up really miserable . You can hear these people's stories .
There's interviews where people talk about how , after I retired or after that person retired , they really went downhill . There's only two ways to keep your mind and your body sharp and strong , and that's to climb .
You do like pain more than most people . In fairness , I'll give you that like . I'm all for a challenging life , but I don't want it to be terrible .
You know what I mean ? I don't know if I like pain . I would say I would say there's , there's a part of me that Likes to challenge myself . Yeah , and I have a question . Yeah .
I have a question for you . This is a . This is a two-minute question . You get a two-minute answer . That's a challenge . I gotta keep you on the . I gotta keep you on the rails here on these freestyle Fridays . Freestyle Fridays are turning into Alan Fridays . When's the last time that you got your mind blown ?
You heard something , you learned something , you read something , you discovered something that made you Quit . I don't want to say question everything , but it was wow , interesting . I never really thought of that
¶ Striving not arriving
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I would say there's small ones all the time . They're more iterative .
What's it ? What's the most notable one ? I have one , if you want me to say it while you think internal family systems always comes up .
For me , internal family systems is a therapy modality where we all have different parts . You'll notice I talk from parts , so you're actually having a conversation with six people . I'm kidding , but I'll always say there's a part of me that blank . You notice how I say that that's called speaking from parts and you can look up internal family systems , the the .
The shortest version of it is inside out the Pixar movie and how there's emotions and there's disgust and sadness and Joy and all these different emotions . Very cool movie , very important . Very hyper conscious movie . Hyper conscious . And there's a second one coming out , by the way , which I'm pumped about .
But the point is is that there's a part of me that actually Does like pain , and that is the sicko part that you're referring to . But that's not all of me . There's another part of me that I refer to as little Alan , that doesn't like pain at all and Kind of gets mad at that other part when I never get to watch movies and eat snacks .
And so that would be the answer . What about you ? I ?
Was talking to you about some strange YouTube videos I was watching . I was watching just videos about paradoxes and just weird stuff . I just came across one and I love that stuff that's that's hyper conscious and a nutshell , and one of the ones was I'm gonna butcher it , I sent it to you so you can watch it . I'm gonna butcher it .
But it was a riddle where , if so , say there is , how does it go ? There's a hundred prisoners and there's this room that has a hundred boxes and each box has a number in it and the in the room Holds every box and it goes from one to a hundred . So , open a box , it has the number one . You open another is two , so forth , so on .
The way the riddle is set up is if you , if the prisoners all go into the room and they're all able to locate their number Without talking about it , they can't talk about it . You get 50 shots . You can open 50 boxes and you have to find your number . You can open 50 boxes and you have to find your number .
If all the prisoners get their number , they're all released . If 99 out of 100 get their number but one doesn't , they all get executed .
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And the riddle was what's the best strategy for them to do it . And I was thinking like I don't know every other box , every third box , every fourth box , and what they found , and again , who is they I don't know is you open the box that has your number ? So let's just say I'm number nine , prisoner .
I go to the number nine box and I open it and it's number 47 . I go open box number 47 . And then in 47 box it has the number 12 . I go to box 12 .
They said statistically that was the best way to do it , because the numbers create a cycle and a cycle has to have an open and a close and if the cycle is less than 50 numbers , every person would get their number , which the chances of that are like 66% right ,
¶ Paradox: Survival strategy
Something like that .
No 30 . 30% , that it's less than 50 ?
30% 30% , 30% , but statistically that's the best way to do it Because that's the highest probability you've got of survival . That's the highest probability .
Then the thing that really blew my mind is they said this would be the same strategy if there was a thousand boxes , if there was 10,000 boxes , if there was a million boxes , if there was a billion boxes , but the percentage of non-death in this case would be lower and lower and lower and lower . Three less than you think , Percentage like 0.1 , 0.2 .
Really , Because you get to open . If there's a thousand , you get to open 500 boxes .
If there's a million , you get to open .
That shouldn't change the percentage almost at all .
It goes down a little bit , it would go down a lot if you could only do 50 boxes still , well , you'd be dead for sure . No , not for sure .
But you know , I would bet .
With a thousand boxes . If it was 30% , with 100 , it would be 3% .
Yeah , I'm not taking my chances on that son .
No , that's not a great odds .
But that blew my mind Because in my I had an idea . I was like , yeah , probably every other box maybe Seems good . And then when they said that , I said never in a million , trillion , gazillion years would I ever have come up with that . If you gave me 500 guesses , I would never have gotten there , ever , ever .
Because I don't know what you're talking about .
Well , you would if you studied game theory .
Well , I know someone who has studied game theory . I've studied a little bit of game theory . You know what I mean , but not enough for that . I'm no expert . I don't know anything . If anybody asked me what game theory is , I would say it's the theory of game .
Game theory is Game theory is the theory of game theory Is a lot of things in a nutshell too . Okay , how do I know there are a lot of things in a nutshell , definitely we got to go soon .
I know we got to pump the brakes . Don't take it easy now . We don't need the . You don't know how to quickness . Okay , the good good .
Yeah , ask me earlier . I'm gonna read this verbatim , and okay .
So this is how we know we're going off the rails , friends she said what a nice word that is verbatim . I love that word . It's good one . Yeah , is that is that of what's Latin ?
probably so . I made it myself All right . Thank you , love . This is her thanking me , so this is her text . Thank you , love .
I am on the prowl for resources to help me understand the mathematical ratios formula for successful businesses , for example , understanding the principles between budgets , economies of scale , growth To revenue ratios , and wondering if these , if there are principles that are applied to the most successful businesses in history From a formulaic standpoint that I could take into
consideration as I rebuild , evolve . So that was the question . What she's asking for is what would I recommend ? Detailed question . Yeah yeah , she's amazing . I said my so . This is my response .
My truth is that until you read the , until you read and thoroughly understand all of the principles in the Jim Collins books , then that's the best resources to build a company .
Otherwise , it's more a matter of studying systems thinking , game theory , strategic decision-making , constraint theory , chaos theory and all of those meta sciences , and then amalgamating them into Growing and scaling your business . The problem is that a lot of what most people are teaching is either outdated or just flat out wrong .
I'd much rather you study first principles like game theory or formulaic decision-making rather than any fundamental business book , except for Jim Collins works .
Those , I do believe , are rooted in universal truths that do still apply almost 100% in the 21st century and across all industries , with a few nuance differences , of course , since selling personal growth is like Is like clawing out your own eyes . I'm being playful , but the truth of the matter isn't for our listeners . Why did I bring all that up ?
These , these fundamental truths you can study , and that's really what science is . Science is that thing that you just mentioned paradoxes , which is the best , best thing ever . I sent Emilia all of the videos that you sent me and for the listeners . A paradox is a duality . It's a if I focus on fulfillment , success will come . It's a paradox .
You can't use the word in its own definition , son . I didn't . Well , I know we use it in a sentence after . It's like it's a . It's two pieces of bread with peanut butter and jelly between it . It's a peanut butter and jelly . Yeah , no , no , I know that you told me what it was done .
That was a powerful pause .
I don't we're gonna go .
So a Paradox is and I think that have we really got to think a lot about what we share on the show in terms of paradoxes , because I think it's gonna change people's lives . When you focus on your mission , for example , your purpose , your calling , I think the person's places , things and ideas Come into your life .
So , for example , when you and Taryn met , you were on your mission . You didn't know you were , but you were Fair . If you focused on relationships , that might not have worked versus your relationship being a byproduct of your own pursuit of fulfillment . That's a pair .
I have a good paradox . I have a good example , simpler , thank you . And then we have to go . Then we have to go . There is a barber and this barber lives in a village and the barber only Cuts the hair of the people who don't cut their own hair . If the barber Cuts his own hair , could he possibly be the barber ?
Wait , say that one more time .
There's a barber in a village , the barber only cuts the hair of the people who don't cut their own hair . But if the barber cut his own
¶ Embracing life's paradoxes for success
hair , could he be the barber ? It's paradox . Yeah , no , no , because he couldn't cut his own hair , but he also cuts his own hair , cuts his own hair . So how ? How would that ever ?
work . It's like a catch 22 yeah yeah , that's I think it's important to and I know we got a jump it's important to understand the paradoxes of life because and that's why I was so pumped when you told me you were studying paradoxes You'll notice .
I don't know if I'd say studying . I don't know if I don't know if taking an edible and laying in bed watching YouTube videos . You know I'm not taking notes or anything but I am into it .
I would say that studying so when Kevin Was watching paradox very well in your .
I would do very well in your class . Yeah , that's , that's right .
And I was . I asked Kev several days later Please send me those videos . And I sent them all to Emilia . But one of the reasons we fail in life seriously , this would be the last next level nugget I'll give is Because everything's so paradoxical . That's one of the reasons we fail . If you focus on fitness , you might , it's okay .
This is a weird one , kev , I'll go quick with it . Okay , it's a weird one . But when you're making love and you focus on trying to come for females okay , I know , I know , for females it's it's less likely to happen .
It's a paradox , whereas if you actually focused on Making love and giving to your other partner , being in the moment and being present , it's more likely to happen . So I think a lot of life comes down to paradoxes that we don't understand and we wonder why we're unfulfilled and unsuccessful . So that's all I have . I know that was a interesting example .
I just didn't see .
I just didn't see that one coming . That one came right out of left field . I think about it . Stuff . It's important . I thought you were gonna say something about a barber in a village and you come . You come with love making . I Support it . I support it . I just wasn't ready for it . It's true , though . Yeah , that's a good example .
It's just a bit of a surprise , that is , I've been reading a book , listening to a book . It is called come together by Emily Nagoski . Emily Nagoski wrote Come as you are great , great books if you're in a relationship . The tower and I are reading it together right now as we speak .
It's a wonderful book , all about intimacy and Accelerators and breaks , and just it's awesome . It's a really good book . So I would , I would recommend that , and that's one of the things that Emily talks about yes , I , yeah , yes , paradox we can make it . It's a paradox I still like the barber cutting his own hair , but you , I .
Kind of feel the other one test that out , another podcast . You and I are very different and very similar . Ah , is that a paradox ? Though it's a duality , I would say Okay .
I might have to do my research to see if you're correct on the definition . For yourself , fridays are good . I get a real you in them . I'm sure I gotta keep an eye on you because I don't know , when we don't know what we're gonna talk about . I don't know what we're gonna talk about , you know ?
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