¶ Intro / Opening
Next level nation . Welcome back to another episode of next level university , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode , episode number one thousand five hundred and ninety five month one check-in .
We're getting towards the end of January here , so we wanted to do a check-in on how January went today for episode number one thousand five hundred and ninety six . The number one thing we wish we knew about relationships sooner . I Always used to hear People say yeah , we never fight , we never argue , it's everything's perfect , we just get along .
We do want to do the same stuff , everything's perfect . And I remember thinking I don't think so , I don't think so , I don't think that's real . I don't believe that for a second now . Maybe you are To very unique unicorns and that's the way it works . I don't really know if I ever expected that for me .
I definitely expected there to be a level of conflict for lack of better freezing . So this is the number one thing I wish I knew , I wish I understood , I wish I had learned sooner . And this is just my perspective .
The person to be with is the person that you can have the most challenging discussions with , the most vulnerable conversations with the person you feel the safest , going into the depths with . That's really what I've learned , because I don't know if challenges ever go away .
I think challenges just change with the quote-unquote success journey , but also in relationships , as you spend more and more time with someone , you're gonna have more and more conversations and they're gonna be deeper . And
¶ Touchy topics
If you're really focused on growth which is the point of a relationship Shout out to Tori Leto for really making that point land for us . If that's what you're in the relationship for , aren't you gonna have to have a ton of challenging conversations ? When I say challenging , I don't mean arguments .
I mean things that you might you might get offended by at the ego level of no , I always do that . I always take the trash and I always blah , blah , blah , whatever it is , or having to voice your Needs when that's really challenging . But you trust the person that you're doing it with .
I wish I knew that sooner , because now that I'm connecting the dots on past relationships and why I think this one is the most successful I've ever had , it definitely is . That's a big reason why . It's because I have really difficult conversations Probably not as often as we need to .
We need to get back into check-ins , for sure , and we've been talking about that . But even that , even saying hey , I want to do check-ins , I Don't enjoy them . They're uncomfortable at times , but the less you do them , the more uncomfortable they are . Unfortunately , that's kind of the way it works , so that would be my big lesson .
Well , you can't just let things . I told you , amelia , this recently . I said we use it at the conscious couples podcast . The whole podcast is built on how to help you flourish in your relationship , how to how to grow together and not apart , that kind of thing . And that's not to imply that everyone should be together .
Some people , I do think , should break up if they're incompatible . But we use the Jenga Tower as an analogy and so if you've ever played Jenga , you take out these blocks and the analogy is the opposite of the point of Jenga , which is don't take the blocks out .
And so a lot of times when you don't do check-ins or you're not having those difficult conversations , these blocks are just getting taken out and eventually the tower is gonna fall , aka the relationship is gonna fall .
And that's why you know , ten years down the road , fifteen years down the road , twenty years down the road , five years down the road , however long down the road , when you avoid , avoid , avoid , you don't call out the elephants in the room , you don't look under the carpet , you don't look in the closet , you don't clean out the basement , so to speak , in your
relationship , these , these things that that go unspoken , they compound and Eventually it's like how did we get here ? Are we even in love anymore ? And I've seen that happen so many times in relationship talks , coaching
¶ Are you avoiding the difficult discussions in your relationship?
, and you can turn it around , but sometimes it's we should have been so proactive . We should have been way more proactive and I can say this with a lot of confidence , having coached couples for three years now . The couples that are the most proactive with having difficult conversations have the highest likelihood to succeed .
So if you were to say , hey , alan , you've coached couples for three years , you've studied , obviously , human behavior and psychology and relationships and you're starting to understand , starting to understand what makes relationships flourish I was not naturally good at this by any means , what would you like ? Who would you bet on ? Who's a couple you would bet on ?
And I would be able to , with high statistical probability of success , I'd be able to pick couples that I would bet on . And the couples that I would bet on definitely are people who do check-ins , people who have high humility , people who are constantly trying not to screw the relationship up , but not so paranoid that they end up not being themselves .
It's growth-oriented people who want to be better and then , most importantly and this is mine they want you to be you . They want you to be you . That's what it comes down to . I don't want you to be what I want you to be . I want you to be you . And that's an unconscious thing , because no one consciously is like , oh , I don't really want you to be .
I was in a past relationship and this person , without a question , wanted me to be what was best for her , not wanting me to be what I am , who I am .
And so , if you can out there listening or watching to this , if you can say yes , I am proactively checking in and having the tough conversations and I really genuinely , without question , want my partner to be the best , brightest version of themselves , who they aspire to be , not who I want them to be . I think you have a very high probability of success .
And the very last thing here that , before I let Kevin talk again , is essentially Kevin kind of called me out there because I often say Emile and I never fight and we have never fought . But what I need to make clear is we've had what I call challenging moments and we've definitely had challenging conversations .
When I hear fight , I think of yelling , storming out , slamming the door , hanging up on each other none of that . We've never done any of that , but you better believe we've had tough conversations that were vulnerable beyond imagination and some of the toughest conversations I've ever had , just because your heart is so scared .
Your heart is so hurt and so scared at times and you don't know if you're gonna be loved for who you are you , don't you know ? there's just really scary moments in relationships . So , even though I say we never fight and never have fought , I wanna make it very clear we've had many challenging moments .
I just think the way we handled those challenging moments thanks to her , not me I would have definitely gotten angry and or raised my voice had she not kind of called me out properly and had she not emotionally regulated . But if it wasn't for the way we handled the conflict , there's no way that we would have the magnificent relationship
¶ Protecting each other's hearts
that we do now . And so it's really not about not having conflict , it's not about not checking in , it's not about not having any problems . It's about how you handle those and how you grow through those and how you are kind and protect each other's heart , particularly in those tough moments .
Equal ownership is another one too . I think that's a very important I would say ownership . But you can we've done episodes recently on this you can over-own , and if you over-own and somebody else under-owns it can really mess up the dynamic of any relationship Been there . Yeah , that's it .
I mean , you see that a lot with parents and I don't want to say children parents and If you're a parent and you have a child , are they children forever ?
Is that a weird thought , I don't know . According to the law , depending on which country you're from , I think 18 is typically the you're an adult , yeah .
but what you don't say . I have a . How many children do you have ?
people say yeah , yeah , yeah . How many parents do you have ? How many adults are you weird ?
So you see this often with parent and children . You see that very often , where a parent will , the relationship is the parent tells the child they're wrong , excuse me the child that they're wrong , and the child over owns that and then that becomes the dynamic of the relationship and that's the whole thing .
The other thing I was going to say , because I was thinking of this , one of the reasons I reference you and I so often , anytime we're doing episodes on relationships
¶ Equal ownership
whether we're talking about intimate relationships , friendships , business partnerships you're the longest . You and I's relationship is the longest I've had other than me and Matt . But you and I's relationship , we talk every day , we've traveled , we do this , we have a business together .
So in a way , you are the relationship I have the most experience in yeah , so that's why I often reference this is the longest , for me as well , at least in terms of as an adult .
Yeah , you know , childhood ones , don't I would say Kevin has survived the longest and honestly , it means a lot to me too , because you know , I think traditionally it's been really hard for me to sustain long term relationships . That's never felt natural or easy for me , so it means a lot .
Well , likewise , but I think it's equal ownership , If anything , if anything . We try to talk each other down a little bit . They're like all right , I understand you're taking ownership , but I definitely could have done better too . That's usually how we are . It's not usually it's on you .
I can think of at least three moments where that didn't happen . You're holding on to the mic . If I burp into the mic less , you know there was a tough conversation . I said that's you in confidence , that's in confidence , but that's .
that's one of the reasons I reference Alan and I so often . The other reason I do is because you hear us every day , so you've probably never really heard us have conflict . I don't know if we've ever had conflict on the mic . We don't have a lot of conflict .
I think you and I are very only one time on the mic , but we didn't air it . So Emilia , prior to prior to Kevin and I , or prior to Emilia and I ever , ever meeting on our first date , emilia was a listener of the hyper conscious podcast , and I say listener loosely .
I think she had listened to a couple of episodes and she reached out to we were talking on Instagram a little bit and she reached out with an episode of how to balance selfishness and selflessness , which now we understand drive to five better . We probably could have done a better job , but I still , to this day , joke
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. It is the one time that I understood the listener better than Kevin did and we got in a very , very heated , challenging moment on the microphone of like Kev , you don't understand what she wants , and this is before I knew she was Emilia , so I apparently was very adamant for a reason .
Never saw the light of day . We've had a handful of those . We've had a handful of episodes that did not see the light of the day . Most of them are guest episodes . I think that was the only it was that I remember .
I remember we recorded a relationship episode on the pool table in your basement , yeah , and that one never saw the light of day either , because neither of us knew what in the hell we were talking about .
And .
I was high .
And I was . Can I just real quick ? This is . This is an episode about love , so this , I think , is really relevant , because I'll never forget this and I'll probably talk about this forever , probably more than anyone wants to hear it , but if I'm in your earbuds then you got to hear it . Yeah , good , all right . So Kev and I sit at the pool table .
He's high , okay , and that's how every good story Every good story starts and he opens the episode . Welcome back to the mother , effin hyper conscious podcast .
No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no .
Don't forget the language in the sound of his voice . So where do you think changed the way you act , change the way you live , never forget it , hypoconscious . And he opens it with Ganz Alan and I disagree . It's something like that . And Alan seems to think that the most important thing in an intimate relationship is trust . I disagree .
I think it's communication . And then we went into a very healthy discord about that . And I think that's a powerful episode because now that I've coached so many people no , but now that I've done relationship talks , coaching for three years , trust and communication are super connected .
If you don't have good communication , you're going to lose trust , and if you don't have trust , your communication is going to be super difficult . And so they're super connected . And honestly , to this day , all these years later , kev , I think those are the two most important . I do Still .
I would agree . I would agree . Trust creates psychological safety . Physical safety creates safety . Communication can help you solve all the conflict that you're going to experience . I mean , those really are . Those really are the two . I would agree with that . I still think mine's more . But whatever it is what it is , you know it's not that big of a deal .
We don't have to have to discord over anything .
You need both , you do need both .
So my next love and nugget for you , whether you're watching or listening , is what is one thing you wish you knew sooner ? Or did something we say today become the one thing you wish you knew sooner , and what can you do with that ? When I was thinking of this , that came right to me .
It was like that really is powerful , if anybody , if I'm 60 years old and somebody says , hey , what's the best relationship advice you have ?
Hopefully I remember that of all the things , because I think if I could say with my old man voice I'll probably be about four foot 11 , because I'm probably going to get shorter as time goes by , I don't have a lot to lose . But my old man voice I'll probably say you know , son , the person to be with is
¶ Trust and communication
the person you can have tough conversation . That's what I hope . Oh my God , oh my God .
That was brutal for me . You think you're going to sound like that at 60? .
60 is still young man . I was channeling the guy from up when I did that .
Oh , you were Okay , stay a while and listen .
What's your next ? Love and nugget , sir .
My next love and nugget is this I think we need to create a pyramid at NLU of the foundation that builds a great relationship .
Yeah , of course I think that would be powerful your bottom could be trust , then communication , then ownership .
I think it would be fire . So anyways , we'll do that , we'll get on it . My next love and nugget is If you handle conflict in a way that is constructive toward growth and you don't avoid conflict , I think you have a really great possibility , probability of having a really successful long-term relationship .
Beautiful . Thanks man , you're very welcome . Next Alvination Very excited . So my mom and Mima shout out to mom and memes have donated six NLU Dreamliners . My mom texted me today at like 5.30 . She works at the third shift and I was working . I was in the office working and she said , hey , I'd like to donate three Dreamliners .
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Shout out to mom and memes . That was so sweet , thank you , thank you . Thank you Also . We will keep your address private . Do not worry . Correct , we'll keep your address private . So it is 2024 . And if you're ready to get to the next level of your life , we have an event in 56 . 20 hours , 29 minutes and 56 seconds .
The Groton Inn is a beautiful venue Mountains in the background . We've been there before . That's where Kevin gave his very first speech . That was the first time we ever spoke together . It's going to be interesting going back there all these years later as a new , upgraded version , next level version of ourselves .
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Okay , for the virtual ticket . So the landing page is up . The link is in the show notes . All the photos from last year are there . We have people at workshop . It's awesome . So it's going to be absolutely great . All the photos are there . Kevin and I , amy , jesse , come meet the team , come see us . We hope to see you in person .
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Boom Ready to run through a wall .
Yeah , man , it's going to be good 57 days out . Let's go , or 56 or something .
I forget what I said . Something like that Airbnb is booked , the team's coming in , so there'll be a lot of behind the scenes content as well . Okay , tomorrow for episode number 1597, . This is Alan's recommendation from something that he talked to clients about with Emilia . What a tough run on sentence the three buckets of expenses .
Again , we are life , love , health and wealth , and I realize we don't talk about as much about money as we could , so I want to do a better job there . So we're going to try to juggle the topics a little bit better . So that's what we're going to talk about tomorrow .
As always , we love you , we appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of you , and at NLU we do it out of fans . We have family and we will talk to you all tomorrow .
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