Nelly: Ride (or Die) Wit Me w/ Nurys Mateo

gold star and the time out. Even though it's just me here, well, I just not it's us because we're here, okay, Squitterville, USA, you in the building, Instagram, USA, brand at USA, everybody in the building, right, and so we are doing this podcast together. And so my gold star is one hundred percent going to go to therese. Now you know, I love rooting for the underdog, right, And I'm so proud of her because baby girl was given the little engine that could and I was here for it that elimination

against Amber. First of all, Ember is a beast, okay, and so the fact that she didn't just go out there and just full on demolishingaries like she was holding on for dear life, and I was so so proud of her. Even though she didn't come out with the victory, she definitely came out with a gold star for me. So let's clap it up one time for missing the raids. Now let's go ahead and get into this time out. Okay. In my personal opinion, these trivia questions this season were

very very easy. Okay, minus the Star Wars because I probably wouldn't have gotten that one, but the other ones were fairly easy. The fact that Casey did not know who Adam and Eve was a baby time out. I need you in a dumps cap in the corner, like you can't play with no toys, Ain't no recess for you, ain't no nothing, because girl, what Adam and Eve? How do you not? Girl back? But enough of me talking, Okay, let's get to the part that you've all been waiting for.

This is going to be such a great episode and it's gonna have so much tea. And I'm not a whole bad from y'all, Like we're going in and I'm not gonna stop and keep this from you guys any longer. Nourse is here and you already know I'm about to get all up in this talk, Okay, I'm asking all the questions. We're getting into the situation with Tori and Jordan, Her and Nelson, this elimination against Amber, Like we're going all in, all right, So stay tuned, don't move, stay

right where you are, because we'll be right back. Friends, family, cousin. She is here, Nourse, thank you so much for coming to hang out with me today on the podcast. I'm so happy to have you here. Thank you for having me. It's been a long time coming. I know, speaking of that, okay, because I wanted us to say that. I know you've been trying to do the Challenge for a long time, right, and I want to say that honestly, this season you have easily become one of my favorites to watch. Like,

I'm not gonna lie and thank you girl forgiving. I told y'all, I told y'all, y'all should have asked me. I told y'all exactly. I beg I said this, and everyone was like, oh, yeah, you were begging to be on the Challenge. I'm like, I just wanted my opportunity to show people that I'm a lot more than just a dating show, and you've been showing it. Girl, You've been killing it this season, and I'm so, so so

proud of you. You've definitely been one of my favorites to watch and girl, I literally, well, first off, I was hoping and praying that you were gonna be on the season two. I was like, I was so excited to meet you. And then when I got there and you see the actual cost, I'm like, damn, where's day gone? I was so sad. I was like, dance maybe one day, but let's get into this episode. But I do want to go back though, So I want to go back to when the teams were first formed. Right, you and

Nelson are split up? Right, how does that feel? And how do you feel about your new team? Oh? Well, if you see my face when they first told us, I was actually I was pissed. I was pissed because I knew that Nelson was gonna be the only person in the game that would have what would have my back, He honestly like was the best partner for me too, and vice versa, because like whenever I felt like in any of the challenges, like I felt like giving up, he just knew how to motivate me. He knew how

to talk to me. He kind of he knew me. So I never felt like I felt like the most comfortable with him. And then when I started seeing the way the team started forming, I'm like, oh, so this is the team about to be on. I mean, like I said, we had a lot of brains on my side, so I wasn't mad about it, but coming and being as someone who's a bit smaller, I was like, damn, we need some we need some size, and we had no size at all. Ah, don't do that because David

beat goliaths. Don't do that. I mean, I'm telling you it, mighty so Harriot. Yeah, so now we get on and now you guys are one person down right now at this point in the episode, you guys would want person down. How are you feeling going into this next daily? Like, dang, we've already lost one person. How does that feel? You know? Going into the next daily? We definitely we knew for a fact that we needed to give it our all

because it was gonna be a girl's day. And I kind of already knew the way that everything was going going that if it was if we lost I knew I was gonna go into elimination. I knew that regardless. I knew that I was gonna be main vote, Like, no matter what, no matter what the conversations were around the house, like if people were trying to lie to me and saying, oh, no, maybe it's Amber, maybe it's I was like, no, motherfucker's I very much know that

it's gonna be Um. They've They've made it so evident throughout the house because you know, Bananas would come up to and be like, you say, you're great at puzzles, so you're great at than durance, and so you knew that I was. I knew that I was a threat, So I knew that it was gonna be me. So biggest regret was not talking to Nelson and I'm like, Nelson, how do you do so great in this daily And when it comes to trivia, when I wish he would have just you know, pulled an LT and you know,

got some wrong so we could have won. But yeah, I like, you know, the girls say like wow, and it's so interesting that you say that, because Betsy and Bananas they talk about how you're the strongest female on the opposite team. You know, They're like she'd won, she'd want som How you feel hearing them say that? Honestly,

it felt amazing. Um, When we go into the interrogation room, they actually all eight people on the other team literally they went one by one, all saying like all these amazing things about me that I went in there, just like I went in there like ready to be like, I'm not telling you guys anything, And they were all so sweet and so nice, and they all were just like, You've been such an amazing asset to this house, to the challenge and everything. And I was bawling my eyes

out so like as big as you know. It was bittersweet to know that I was gonna go in, but it felt so nice to realize that, like I went there to make a name for myself and to like prove that I'm smarter and stronger not only to you know, myself, but to everybody else. And I was happy and proud of myself to actually like I did that. I actually did, girl. They were butter in you up. It was the calm before the storm. There was like season this chicken for we put her in the oven, We're gonna go ahead.

And yet so outside of being this great competitor that you are, you have also been in some love triangles and I want to get into that. Okay, So before we even get into the whole Tory and Jordan situation, Johnny, what happened with that? Yeah? What's going on with that? Because you know when he left, two things can happen. It's either absence makes the heart grow fonder or out of sight out of mind. Which one did you do?

Clearly it was out of sight out of mind? But no. So you know, when we were in the house, like me and Johnny, I felt like, honestly the most amazing connection between me and him because we met at the airport. You know, they show it we made out, but it was instant connection, like it was instant, like we just he was just a great person, talked to a left of time conversations with him, but he fucked up. You know. Um, when he was leaving, I tried running down when he

got eliminated. So when I was walking back up the stairs, he says, it's been real, have fun, And that's all he chose to say. And so the entire house we'll just look at him like it's been real, have fun. How is that the only thing you say to someone that you just spent twenty four to seven with for the last three weeks. So for me, I was like, have fun, but I will go have fun because that to me to Wow, I needed to know about our

connection because I thought it was something more real. I just sprinted my ass down little stairs to go give you a hug goodbye, as if you were my boyfriend of years, like, and you're gonna tell me have fun? Like do Like? Basically it was like do you? It was real? What we're here, Bill, that's it. And so for also, like I know at the time, Johnny's twenty three years old, I'm twenty seven, Johnny just started living

in LA I'm like, I'm a realist. Like I'm like, I'm not gonna think that you're gonna go back home and sit there. You're gonna wait for me. You're gonna go back home and go back to all your other girls that you had prior to me, you know, And that's cool because we never talked about we never talked about like being together in the outside or even seeing what it could be on the outside world. So I was like, all right, he's probably out there doing him.

I'm gonna do me. Um, when we get out of here, I'll talk to him and then we can see if this will be a thing. If not, Who are you guys in contact now romantically? Uh? Oh? Girl? This smile? That was a cheeseburger smile? Girl? What was that? Well, Well, at the reunion, we may have rekindled things. So we rekindled things, and I didn't expect that because genuinely, I was so angry about the way the things happened between me and him outside of the house. Um, but we

rekindled things, and naturally we were. That London trip was literally just a vacation for me and him. It was. It was we spent twenty four seven together. We literally just flew back last night and today, like I will come back to this house this morning. So yeah, there you go. There you God told y'all I'm gonna get the team. There you go. Well, okay, so then that lets me know that Jordan is out of the picture. But why he was in the picture. I do want

to dive into that. What was it that sparked your interest with Jordan? Like what attracted you to him? It was? I think it was because we just got to know each other without the romantic side of it, like we weren't. It wasn't like he was like, Oh, I just think you're hot, you know. It wasn't like no sexual like connection off the bat. It was literally friendship. I got to know him. We had to have nice deep talks.

Then just seeing the way that he carried himself and seeing honestly, because I had judgments of him prior to when I first seen him coming into the house, I was like, I've seen you on the past seasons, I didn't know, so seeing him in a different flight, you know, seeing I don't know. I just I really liked his personality, like honestly, like he would just make me die laughing. We shared a bedroom, so I got to know him from that, and I think as people got eliminated, so

like Jay got eliminated. So then it was just me, him and John seen the room. Chauncey spent all his room with Amber downstairs, so me and him had a room to just ourselves. So it went from both of us sleeping downstairs in our separate beds, having late night talks like all the time for hours. We would talk for hours and hours. So then one day him being like can I come cuddle you. And I was like, okay,

I mean I'm lonely, like you can come cuddle. And it started really innocently, super super PG and then it went from maybe a couple days later we finally kissed, and then a couple of days later it was like now we're sleeping in the bed together. So it was it was gradual. It wasn't so like instant like me and Johnny. So it was it was a nice It was a different feel. It's a different I don't know, and in that house at that point, I felt like

I was there for like three months. Yeah, and he was just like he was like like he just felt good. It just felt good. And you know, it was nice to have someone who you could look at from across room and be like hey, like, I don't know, it just sounds nice. Oh, at any points did you feel any type of way about you know, the tory of it all. So at the beginning, because so the house didn't know me and Jordan were connecting on that level for a while. Actually we kept it pretty on the hushush.

No one knew. I didn't tell Nelsen it in Tell my Girls. He didn't tell anybody because we just didn't want the judgments, you know, and when they found out, and I saw when they found out, and I saw all the way Tory felt. I spent like an entire day balling my eyes out because I'm like, damn, like, I've been there. I've been there. I've been in that situation where you watch someone else who you care about move on with someone else, and it's like in that environment.

Like I was telling her, I was like, this is not X on the Beach. You did not sign up for X on the Beach, And I'm sorry that I made you have to witness your x X fiance at that, you know, moving on with someone else. In the real world, it would have been a different situation because you know, she wouldn't have seen it. It would have happened, but she wouldn't have seen it, right, So I did I

have felt bad. I definitely felt bad because my my I, like I was saying in this episode, like I made a selfish decision because I really wasn't thinking about anybody else, Like I was just worried about myself at the time. And when I finally noticed that, well, when the when the house found out about me and Jordan, you know. That's when I was like, oh shit, when I seen the way that she reacted and I seen that she we were having a movie night and she left the

movie like ten minutes into it. Me and him weren't even tough. We were just in the same like bed and left. And then you see you hear the talks from Amber being like, oh my god. That's when she goes out there. It's getting uncomfortable because they're touching. We weren't even touching, and then hear Plissa go out there, and then half the house is going out there to console her, and I'm just like, well, shit, okay, and

then I felt like shipping damn. Like my intentions were never to make her feel less than like I never meant to make her feel like, I don't know, uncomfortable or anything, which is why we were doing it on the downlow, which is why you know, we never told anyone. He never showed it at all, like PDA was never shown until maybe that one clip where they showed me and him in the kitchen. But we never were like

each other that like that. So I did feel shitty about that, But at the same time, I'm just like, am I am I supposed to always put someone else's feelings in front of mine, or am I supposed to just live my life and just you know, go for what feels good for me at the you know, like when I think back to it, very stupid, selfish decision.

Like still that's why I felt then. I still feel that now, But it's hard to say that I regret it because Jordan was such a great person to me, Like I loved I loved what we had going on, and like I love that. Like it wasn't like we were just taking a day by day just enjoying each other's company. In the conversation. It wasn't like we were I don't know, I don't know, it was it was great. It was so are you too still friends? You and Jordan? Yeah,

we're great friends. Um me and him. I think we hung out probably like two days after he got back, and you know, talked, and then we just we kind of had conversations of just like I don't I mean, I don't want to. I don't know. I'm more a girl. Are you blowing my gosh? Oh my goodness. Okay, So I came back home and I told Johnny about everything,

and Johnny handled in a very weird situation. But at that point I knew that if I had to choose be changed Johnny and Jordan, that my feelings were more towards Johnny, that more than I ever thought, you know. Coming back home and you know, processing it all, I realized, Okay, maybe he did like Johnny a little bit more than you put off, and um so coming back, I was just like, you know, when he came back and I knew,

you know, for Jordan, our connection was still there. It was a hard place to be in because I was like, I'm not trying to lead you on, so I should have told him, like listen, like I love our friendship and I genuinely value you and I don't want to lose you at all. But I don't think that we should take it to the next level. I don't think we should be sexual. I don't think that we should, you know, just I think we should just just be friends. And he is, if I say, Jordan is so amazing

because he understood so well. He sent me back a nice paragraph like he was so understanding, and never once after that made me feel uncomfortable, Like we hung out thousands like so many times, and he never once, like put the moves even a mind. You were drinking, we're having fun. We're in different environments where he could have even you know, still tried to shoot his shot, and he didn't. He respected me, He respected you know, the connection and the friends that we had, and it's just

been a great friendship since. Like and I can never say anything back. Oh I love to hear that. Yeah all right, Jordan, Yeah great. So I'm like, break from the love triangles, Okay, I want to dive into this daily challenge. Now this trivia. Okay, it's TJ's favorite time to annoy the cast members. Right this one. However, like usually with trivia, it's heights and water attached, y'all were on the ground. Okay, but spinning was involved. Now, how

did you feel about that trivia and spinning? How how did that work for you? I loved every second of it, absolutely loved every single second of it. The moment I've seen the spinning wheel, I said, yes, this is so

much fun. I would to say, like, I'm not someone who gets nauseous easily, and when it comes to trivia, like I said, I literally do this for fun, like yeah, and like that's not even that wasn't even like preparing to go on the challenge, like I do trivia, I do sudoku, I do puzzles and all that for fun on my phone every day because I'm a loser, like and just like I'm a little nerd, so you know what I mean. Like, so that's for me. As soon as I heard trivia, I was like, let's get it.

And then at that point I'm like, yeah, this so this is where I get to shine, is where I can help my team. This is where now at that point I'm feeling positive. I'm like, oh yeah, there's no way that my team's gonna lose, like no offense and Nelson, but they got Nelson on the other side, Like we got the brains on this side. There should be no excuse for us not to win, like maybe down to person, but we're we got all the brains over here. So it's like I was, I went into it very very hopeful.

How fast or slow was that will actually spinning it? Actually it was going fastest shit, Like it was higher time my team was complete. They were the biggest babies. I the biggest babies Sport Vergetiers, Devin Vergetiers, Ambram Riah tears. I'm just like the entire and then the entire time we're spinning, I'm literally like, are you just like going around? And at one point Devin was liker shut the fuck up, and I was like, why I'm having fun. He's like,

I don't care because they were so miserable. Yeah, they were hated that I was having such a good time I was having I was telling that's not in my life. I was like, I said to me, it was. It was like a carnival game. And for them, they were miserable. They were like, she's good at another thing. She's good at spinning too, ye, and then my own team and everything,

we're just like, shut up. I was like, okay, So I want to tap into Nelson because, as you said, trivia is not his thing, right, but he showed out on this day, showed out on this daily, and so it raises the question, are you his good luck charm? Because let me tell you one thing, Nelson has been showing out so far this season, right, and I personally, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it on record,

I think it's because of you. I think you brought something to this season to him that his antennas are at one thousand, right, and so when you see him and he's giving you these praises in the interrogation and all these other kind of things, how does that make

you feel? Oh, it made me feel amazing because it was nice, Like I'm always I'm still to this day, I will say it again, say it all the time, like I'm so thankful for him for him giving me this opportunity because if it wasn't for him, I would have never been there. And then to see the way that it went about, because going in there, I was kind of skeptical, like if people have seen me and him on X on the beach, like girl X on the beach. He came out and I was like, it

was it was very negative. It was very much like me and him just butting heads the entire time. So I'm like, man, I didn't know what to expect going into this at all. And the way that was just so perfect, Like our communication skills were amazing. So I can genuinely say like we did everything together, and I think that's what made us such like so connected. Also in the game, like let's say I was going to get breakfast, like I made sure to go put breakfast

aside for him. If I knew he was working out like we would work out together, we would would he would make sure to keep me accountable, like if I was gonna lose my cool, he would pull me aside and we would have great conversations. It was like everything overall, I think is what how it translated into the game because our communication, everything connection was just there, like there was like genuinely like my best friend. So me and him actually spent time together and actually got to know

each other aside from just the game. And I think that will helped us out at the end. And I think that's what I know. And then obviously I will definitely say I'm his good luck charm, and I think he'll say it too. He'll give me all that credit as you see, like you know, he's miserable on his

team now without me like he was. You know, he's like, man, I had someone real by my side, someone who I knew and definitely had my back, and then now he's on this other team where they're being shady towards him, and he's just like, you see, like this is why he would have preferred to just be with me. It shows through the way you guys compete, that the rapport was tight, like we could see that you guys genuinely were Ride or Dies even would you guys being on

opposite sides, you can tell. No, they still rolling to the wheels fall off. And that's something I definitely appreciated, seeing him giving you your flowers, girl, or something I appreciated seeing. I thought it was so beautiful to see that side of him. And I'm so glad you brought up X on the Beach because I was going to tap into that too, because not only are you two right and Dies, you guys are also exist. So I guess my question is, at any point did you guys

happen to slip down memory Lane at any point this season? No, not at all ever, um thankfully, oh, thank god, honest, I was. I was really for him in when. And it's funny because people people would think that dynamic would have been so weird because like, obviously Olivia's my girl, Me and him are exes and I was helping them out the entire time. But I loved seeing him f with someone else, and I think vice versa. I think he enjoyed seeing me happy. And you know that's all

that mattered. We never I mean we would randomly talk about like different situations x on the beach because people always ask like, oh, how was that, like what was your experience? Like um, But aside from that, no, like everything was just super like just on a friendship level, like it's I know, I hate when people say this, especially when they've had like a pass in a history, but like literally, like my brother, now it's been it's been five years too, so I'm just like literally like

a brother now Never, I couldn't. I can't imagine taking it down and go and get going too that. Yeah. No, not so at this point, is it's safe to say that this season strengthened the friendship between you and Nelson? Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah. I never in a million years would have ever expected mine and his friendship to be where it's at now, like outside now, outside of the game, outside when we got home, I can genuinely say he's one of my friends.

Like we literally talk every other day, if not every like to the point where like if I don't hear from him or he doesn't hear from me for like two days, like he tells me like, oh, hello, I haven't heard from you like you good, And I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I haven't talked to you because I've been busy. He's like, okay, well I don't care if you've been busy big time for me. And I'm like, all right, call me literally like I was. He invited me to

spend Thanksgiving with him and his family. Oh it's been yeah, like like I said, literally like the best, like and whenever he's going through it, like I would say, I've been there for him like this entire for the past however, money ments, we've been home, like he calls me about everything, you know, before he does anything or ox off emotion, he calls me he asked me for advice twenty four

to seven. You know, I genuinely would would say like, that's literally one of my best friends right now, Like I haven't penned it in my messages. Oh I love that. I love love love that. So before we go any further, we need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Well, let's go on and get into it because we're coming back to Tory. So now your team lost the Daily, right, and so a girl has to go in and her name is on the chopping block, right, so you decide to have Oh, I

don't know. I don't know if you decided or she just I don't know how I played out inform me. You guys end up having this conversation, you and Tori? How does that come about? And was that strategic or was that a genuine conversation? No, it wasn't strategic. It was literally just like a conversation that really needed to be had because I was like, you know, I was at that point, I'm still thinking I'm gonna be there

for a while. I never wanted to make her feel uncomfortable, so I pulled her aside and I was like, do you want to talk? You know, like let's just put it all out there, because I'd rather not just walk around here walking on egg shows and feeling really uncomfortable. Yeah. It was like I wouldn't say Tori was the messy one, because she wasn't. But it was like, you hear Amber

running around being like oh my god. Like Amber would come pretend like she's my friend and then go run to Tory and be like that that makes me feel uncomfortable. Are you hear Anissa trying to be messy? You know? Telling people, so like you hear the rumors, and I was just tired of the rumors before I go off. Let me go talk to the person that I should be talking to before I go off on everyone else. Yeah, So I appreciate that going straight to her as opposed

to entertaining the crowd. I appreciate that. I really do the Firestarter Committee. I understand that that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. So then in saying that, she kept saying it's not personal, it's not personal, it's just a game, and her wanting to get you put as the vote to go into elimination. Do you believe that it was fifty fifty for a fact,

because at that point, I've already proved myself. Like I there was in the mini there was a time where Devin and Tory were ahead of us, and because they got the puzzle faster, but like the moment me and Nelson figured it out maybe five minutes later, like we

blew them out of water. So I already knew that she knew like competitifies like I was a big threat, like I we passed her like sprinted by them, like after they had already left us at the puzzle forever ago, like, so I think like game wise, I definitely think that I had proven to her like that I was a threat, but one thousand percent she didn't want to keep seeing me in Jordan, so she it was that was definitely like it was fifty and as much as much as

she said no, it's not personal, it was one thousand percent personal too. Like I know for a fact, no one wants to see their ex like connecting with anyone else. And if you can cut the connection off early, you might as well do it. Yeah, do at this point in time, is there any like, is there any awkwardness between you and Tori and now the show is over? Or are YouTube core draw all your friends? Like what's what's the status of bad? Oh? Me and her are

were super cordial? Now I truly believe, like totally handle the situation really well. Um And I couldn't say that many people would have handled it the way that she did. Like now out here in the outside world, I don't think like, at least for my knowledge, I don't think she's like she She's had She's could have had multiple opportunities to talk down on me, talk down to my name, you know, and you know, beat sightful, and she never

did that. You know, she's she's been amazing, you know she yea, yeah, I'm actually shocked, Like I truly am shocked because I don't know if I could have been as big of a woman as she is. Let me ask you this, do you think this entire situation right? Do you think Jordan could have gone about this situation better than he did? I mean maybe, but I think

he was just living his best life. Like at that point, it had been a year and a half since they had even spoken, um, and he's already been gone multiple times like prior to that, you know what I mean. I know it's because the environment was weird, so like I know the environment is like oh because you're you know, she's there too, But like, let him live his best

life like he's been. I mean, I don't necessarily know the whole situation between them two, but like he's already gone through his ship, Like, let him have his fun, let him if he found found comfort in me, like, let him do it. Like I maybe maybe he maybe we should have kept him more on the down low so no one knew, But like I think that if I was making him happy, like I'm glad I did

because in that environment, he was stressed. Wow, I think about he was in an environment after a year and a half, and he was living in a house with Bessie, so it's like, you know, like he was dealing with his own ship too. Okay, all right, so we're going into the interrogation, right, five votes, Mama, five votes against you? How did that make you feel? And was there anyone who voted against you that you felt betrayed by? Nope?

I saw it coming. I saw it coming. Um. I knew that out of the eight people on that team, I actually was shocked the way that the other three votes went. But I knew for a fact because I knew, look, I would have never said my name, that's my best my girl in the house, and Nelson, of course not. And then I knew that Bessie at that point already viewed me as a friend too, that I knew that Bessie would never do that to me or do that

to Nelson. So I knew for a fact the only three people I guaranteed on my side were them, So I knew, I knew it. I was like, there's no way they're They're all five of them are definitely saying my name. I knew for a factory, and Nisa would say my name because of Jordan Bananas at that point, not my friend Chauncey already said his name. And then I forget who the last one, Oh Casey, and then obviously I knew Casey wasn't gonna do anything to Obviously

she's with Nannie. So I already knew that the votes were going to be that way, Like I wasn't. I was prepared. I went into that, it's into the elimination knowing for a fact that it was going to be me. Oh yeah, girl, I know that feeling. I hate it. I know that feeling. Yeah. But you know what, I'm so glad you brought up Nannie because I wanted Now that you've seen the episode, right, how did it feel seeing that she made a deal with the other girl

and not you? How did that feel watching that? So after interrogation, because of how everything went the first time with that team and they weren't on the same page, they all decided that it was going to be as the main vote when they were in interrogation, after interrogating all of us, they already knew. So when they came back. First thing Nelson said was okay. Nelson came and he

told me so. Now, moving forward throughout the house for the rest of the day, it was I already knew everyone knew Neas's main vote, So now it was up to Nanni, Maria and to figure it out within them three to figure out which one of them was going to be. So I thought I didn't have a choice at that point. I think if roles were switched and like, let's say we didn't know, I truly believe that Nanni and I would have talked because I think Nannie and I were a lot closer and we bonded a lot

more than her and Maria. So I think if it would have came down, if it would have been different, I think Nanni would have had my back and me and her probably would have talked game. But then it would have been a yeah, I don't know what it would have been interesting. I don't know, but I didn't know that her an Amber had. I didn't know her and Amber had like had talked about anything like that

was shocking to me. I was like, oh, interesting, because Amber always talks and cries about how the Vets never have her back, so I figured that at that point, like she didn't really I didn't think that she had talked to Nannie. I thought her and Maria were like best friends, so I didn't know that her and Nanni were gonna be Oh girl, the more you learn as you watch, the more you learn, the more you know. Yeah. And then also Amber had been going through to some

family stuff. So Amber had told us all all the girls and our team that she kind of wanted to go home. So that's kind of when me and Maria talked him. That's when I actually asked Maria. I said, Maria, I think you should go make a deal with Nanni. That way, Amber is the one that goes up against me.

Because at that point I figured, all right, well, Maria doesn't want to leave, Nanni doesn't want to and if Amber wants to leave, like we might as want to make it easier instead of it being messy and maybe Mariah going against me or Nanni. We can make sure that you two are you know, an alliance right now for the day, and then Amber can be the one thrown thrown in. Other three ladies, who did you feel the most confident going up against If you could choose form.

It was fifty fifty between Nanni and Amber. I felt like they were they were us. Three girls were kind of like the same body types. So I figured that would be the most fair elimination, Like I figured that would be the one that it would be like fifty fifty. You wouldn't know who was going to win. It kind of just depended on who gave more, gave it, yeah, I gave it more or whatever. Definitely wouldn't have wanted to go against Mariah because Maria definitely had sighs on me.

She had thighs on me. Do you see them abs? I said, nothing good? I love her two thousand, my girl. So I was like, you do not want to go against my girl, but also don't want to go against hercause she's a fucking beast. Yeah, but you are too though, Okay, you are too though. So your opponent is Amber. You see what the elimination is immediately because I did Paul Wrestl too, right, What is your strategy? I swear I didn't even have a strategy at that point. I'm seeing

this random ball with all these random ass candles. I said, how does anyone even prepare for this? Like I had no idea. All I knew at that moment was you just gotta give her your all. Like I was just like and like I said, I've grown up. I had grew up with nothing but brothers, and wrestling for WWE was big for us. So like wrestling and you know, actual fist fighting with guys like my brothers was always

very much a thing that we did. So I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna pretend like I'm fighting one of them, and I would give it my all. My brothers used to do all this crazy shit to me, and I would always come out on top. And I used to make my brother's tap out. So I was like, if I can do it to them, I can do it to amber point. I gotta give it your all. I didn't even have a strategy. Now looking back, I definitely wish I wish I would have. I don't know, I

guys done my research. I think that's when experience comes into play. You know once you do it, or you know you're being coached by someone who's already done it. I think that helps. And I couldn't hear anybody up top, like I was so focused, yeah that they were yelling things at me. Like when I talk to them now, Like Jordan was like, yeah, I was telling Nelson's to tell you the twist. Nelson was telling the choice. I was like, I couldn't hear any of you guys. I

was focused. People was asking me, day, I wish your strategy with the hold on what I mean like at all, exactly what you see in the second one. When we went for the second round, I had her, I only only had it by one hand. At that point, I kind of done my mind mentally. I was like, if I can't find a way to put my second hand on this thing, I'm gonna lose because she has two hands on it, like and she Yeah, she's nimble and flexible.

Did you see her? She literally had She was everywhere, literally and so I'm like, I'm not flexible like that. So I already knew that. I'm like, I need to find a way to get my other hand or I'm about to lose. And that's exactly what happened. You know, She she got, she got, She had the better, the better grip strength at that moment. For a fact, I'm so glad you brought up the second round because as a viewer, Amber wins the first round, right, and we

see your face going into the second round. You looked defeated? Were you because it looked like and it's and I hate to say it, but I was. I U I had I had a really bad hip. I could barely walk at that point. I had barely been able to walk for like a week already. At that point, um really really bad. Like I had messed up my hip and my groin. So I already was in so much pain from my hip that that first round it was killing me. And then not only did I that I

hurt my forearm in the first round. So at that point, I'm going into it like can barely walk, and this is you know, we're throwing ourselves in the ground and you need your leg strength to get up. And it was like I could barely move and and everybody else in the house can vouch for me, because I'm like I literally was like hobbling around for like two weeks. Yeah, And so um, now that I hurt my forearm, I was just like, damn, Like that's that's two now, Like

now not my only beg in my arms. So going into the second round, I kind of knew that, So I was like, but I'm so mad at myself for that. I think back to it and I'm just like, damn, Like I knew. I knew I was defeated, Like I was already defeated. But I shouldn't have let that get to me. I should have just been like, no, fuck it, like keep going. But but you didn't quit. That's true.

I did not. You didn't quit. You gave her And I don't tell you something because to the average eye watching YouTube go into this elimination, it was like, oh, Amber about to tear her up, but she didn't. She didn't like you gave her a run for her money. And I was watching it like come on, and I love Amber, but I was like, come on, the reath, come out and get up, like and we were going in at the screen. It took a long time that actually, like it was the first round was so long, like

it took everything. There was parts where like me and her were literally both slaying there like trying to catch our breath because it was going on for so long that we couldn't even move anymore. And then we're like every single like it was always like yep, yeah, it was crazy. Wow. Also shout out to the challenge guards. I don't know how they knew, but that was the

one elimination I've always wanted to do. So yeah, so I you know, I always said that if I was gonna do an elimination, I always wanted to be a pole Russell because I always want to tell, you know, show that I'm stronger than I look. I always wanted to prove it to myself. So when I walked out there and I seen it, I was like, like, if you see me, I have a big smile the entire time because I was just like, I was just happy.

I was like, what are the odds? Like I finally made it to the challenge, competed and did amazing and now I'm finally my elimination, doing my dream elimination, like I couldn't haven't had. I wasn't mad. I was super happy. I mean, it did suck that I got sent home, but like, hey, it was it was amazing, great experience. You know what, in this game, losing it sucks. It sucking. It hurts, especially if you're hungry for it and you want that win. It hurts, and we all give emotional girl,

you don't see me snot knows ugly crying like it happens. Yeah, you got so emotional when you lost, and I felt it. Girl, my eyes started swayed. I didn't cry because I'm a thug, but my eyes started sweating a little bit. Right as I'm watching you, I felt your tears through the screen. What did this season mean to you? What did this opportunity mean to you? Um? Like I said, it was,

don want to cry. I'm such a cry baby. I hate it, Um, but it met, I think to me honestly, because like I said, I've I've wanted this opportunity for a really long time. Uma, and it's it's constantly like the fans even now dealing with it, but before it's always like she couldn't do this, she can't, she can't, she can't, and like all the negatives on me. So going into this season, I really just wanted to prove

it to myself. And then obviously I'm like I have so many people that depend on me, so losing at that elimination and it was just so like I felt like I was letting people down. UM. Also my team because like no shape to Amber either, but like um at all, because Amber is amazing and I always I always feel like I have to say this because people think that I like hate Amber and I don't. But I think obviously she won her rookie season. I think

that's amazing. But I at that point, my team had told me like I was a stronger asset at that time. So I'm like, damn, I just let my whole team down, like, let my family down, let myself down. And I'm just like, so that's that's where I was. My emotions all came into play and I was just taking it back. I was just like, damn, like I really, I really truly leave. I could have won this and now I'm going home. Wow. Yeah.

Let me tell you something. Don't ever put that much pressure on yourself, because I've been there and it's a hard heavy load to carry. Don't put that much pressure on yourself. You go there, you compete, and you have fun. Yes, let those things that are in the back of your mind and in your heart, let that drive you to get that win. Let that be your motivation, But don't let it become a burden to push you through the season,

because that's gonna cloud your judgment. Every single time. Girl been there, done that, got the T shirt, that hat, and the jacket bit there. Okay, so don't don't don't let it girl. You out to give me emotional Let's move on. We look forward. The game for you is not over. TJ. Tell you come back girl. Man, I'm back girl. Set me cry all over against and I'll just get both my eyes out. Now you're gonna I'm bueling mindself because I'm sad, and now you're gonna give

me something good news. I'm gonna cry all over again. I'm crying happy tears, like I was like I when I tell you that feeling, especially like as a fan too. They haven't done redemption in so long. Like when I got walked back in there, I was so shocked because they were like, you're gonna do pickups? I said, pickups for what what do you guys need me to pick up? So I walked back in there and I just see TJ there and he's like he's like hey, and I'm

like hey, like I'm in pain. I'm blimping off to him. My arm's hurting. I'm like, hey, what's up And he's like yeah. You know. And the season you ride by your partner, you die by your partner. Your ride or die is still in the game, and I was just so excited because at that point, all I'm thinking to

myself was I'm winning this ship. I'm winning like I'm winning this ship because if Nelson stays in the game and we come back and me and him a rider dies, There's no there was literally there was no doubt in my mind that we were gonna we were gonna lose, like we had already proven to be such a great ride or die pair that all I thought. I was like, Okay, So that means if I'm still here because of Nelson, that means the teams are gonna switch up back to

partners soon. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, all right, it's gonna go back to partners. And when me and Nelson are together, we work amazing. I don't gotta worry about being on a losing team. That's amazing. I was like, Okay, But now all of all I knew was that that was just like God doing me a favor, because, like I said, I was injured like already and I needed physically a break for sure. So I'm like, yeah, I got to go to Redemption and chill and get my

hit better. And I'm gonna come back, yes, and I'm gonna come back stronger. I said, Oh, they're gonna be I'm gonna be a force when I come back. I was like, they're not ready. I was like yep. All of us thinking was yeah, now I'm winning this, like for sure. It was That's all I was in my mind.

I was so excited. Yes, so going through this week and seeing how the cards fail, right, because the beautiful thing about going into Redemption and be able to come back is when people think you're leaving, they showed the ass, right, And so now that you've seen that, knowing that you could come back into the game, who were you focused on? Oh? That that entire other team? For a fact, I was like, well,

first off, Banana's and was always my main target. Oh wow, okay, like not because he's not like person wise, I think he's dope. I actually was shocked that the fact that I actually liked him Game one, I don't need you to be here. You've already won seven times, been on twenty one seasons. Like for what what am I keeping

you here for? Like at that point I was reading exactly and then yeah, I had my thing with Jordan, But I said Jordan got to go too, so that means to buy both of y'all gotta go, like oh you don't walk up? Yeah yeah, coming back. All I wanted was to hear that one of those other writer diyes were the ones to go home first, like specifically those two teams, because I'm like, y'all are just and y'all already been here. You guys have already done this.

Pass the torch like y'all don't need it anymore, you know, give it to somebody else. And so at that point, that's all I'm thinking, like I gotta get rid of them. And still to this day, I regret my decision, or our decision might not the decision of putting in an amber, because all I wanted to do with put in bananas a nanny and we switched our mind. We changed our mind two seconds before going into elimination, and I regret that because I'm like, why I would have played differently?

Why why did you guys switch? So we were on the bus headed to elimination, and I think Nannie went up on Nelson on the bus and had like I think she might have cried to him and was like, I really can't believe he did this. You know, you're my brother. Banana's birthday was the next day, and I think the anniversary of her mom's passing was coming up, so it was a lot on her too. And then she's thinking, you know, Nelson is my friend, who isn't

who just threw me in? So I knew she was going through it emotionally, and so he came up to me just like distraught, like he felt like he really let a real friend down. And you know Nelson plays with his emotions. Yeah, so he was super hurt. We're lined up about to go into elimination and he's just like, please, Nor It's like, let's not say them. And I was like, no, we're saying Bananas a nanny and he's like, no, let's not. So we were going back and forth, and all I

thought to myself was, I've seen this before. You know, when Zach and I think good Zach and someone else, I forget what's reason it was. They couldn't make a decision. They ended up going into elimination. So at that point, I'm doct Amanda. So now I'm thinking to myself, do I sit here and argue with Nelson and go back and forth of him, or do I just decide? You know what, Nelson, I'll give you this one because the likelihood of us winning another one is pretty high. I'll

give you this one. And if you want to say Amber and Chauncy, I will say Amber and Chauncy. Still in hopes that maybe Banana's a Nanni would somehow get thrown in. So that's what happened. Never wanted it to be Amber, never, she was never even a thought. Um always wanted it to be I wish Nanni wasn't tied to him because it was. If not, I would have just said bananas. But yeah, bananas and Nanna or you want to him go? Yes I did. I was like, like the shadiest thing. I was like, he gotta go,

you gotta go. He's too good. The raised You have been the bomb on this podcast. However, I'm not gonna let you go just yet because we have one final segment. Okay, so this is a fun little game time. We're gonna loosen up, you know, do a little little extra trivia. Okay, so we have three questions for you about your partner, Nelson. Okay, you say, y'all a rider dies that show as Boon Cooon, your patna, your main apple scrapper. Right now, it's time

to prove it. So I have three questions for you. Okay, you gotta get them. You're ready, Okay, let's go. Okay. Number one, you broke Nelson's very long losing streak. How many dailies did he lose in a row before you arrived? Fifty two? My wrong? What was it? What was it? Fifty four? I thought it was fifty four. Jesus, the curse is broken. Hearing that number still to me, I'm just like Nelson. How the hell fifty four? That's a lot grey waiting on you. It was all in the

divine purpose? Okay, right? Okay. Number two, so you and Nelson were both on are you the one? What season was he on? He was on season three? O two for two? Last and final question. Oh, this one gets on under my skin. Oh my gosh, final question. Finish this Nelson quote. Folks were getting down to the needy, greedy girl. Three girl. It gets under my skin, like, why are you saying this? Nelson? And at this point, I think the best part about it is that the first time he ever said it, it was such a

like Nelson what that now. He doesn't give a shit, he refused. He will not say neitty gritty. He will always say needy greedy. Now from now on, he does not care. It's needy greedy, It's not nitty greedy. He already decided. He always says, come on, people, Come on people, Nurse. This interview has been so much fun. Thank you for being a breath of fresh air and coming and hanging out with your girl today. I appreciate you more than you know, truly. Thank you for having me, and thank

you for all your kind words. Honestly, like you are an inspiration in the game too, and you've just been so amazing. So hearing everything you said about me, I'm just like, I'm just heart is warm. Thank you. Oh, where can to people find you on social media? So you can find me on Instagram at Nurice came a tale, I'm shadow band, so you have to make sure to type in the whole thing Twitter, it's Nurice came a tale, I believe, and follow me on TikTok because I'm funny

and my TikTok is nurse thirteen. Well, people go follow her, get them laughs on TikTok because I'm going to go follow her too. This has been another great episode. I appreciate you for hanging out with your girl. Have a good day, beautiful fine. Uh you guys, it was such a great interview with miss Narrace. I'm so glad that she came by and decided to hang out with your girl and have a little chit chat with me, a little girl talk. I hope you all enjoyed it because

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