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other anyway. It's a lot harder when it's somebody you care about, like this is getting ugly. Yeah, it's also really hard when it's someone you don't care about, like in the case of Bessie and Mariah, because early Bessie is not showing that he cares about Mariah in the way that she deserves, and she like gave him. Wasn't it like two episodes ago or three episodes ago where she like gave him a pep talk and hugged him and was super supportive. You know. One, I just want

to much happened. So much happened watching Chauncey and Amber, you know at the end where he's like kind of beating himself up for winning that challenge. You, Oh my goodness, Like I could never with a significant other because that had to be pressure, Like I want to win, but my girl is over there, Like that has to be pressure. So that was such a good moment, such a good moment. That was really sweet. But I also liked the way Amber handled Amber was like, he's kind to get it together.

I feel like that would be me if Adam. If that were me and Adam competing on a challenge and I love, I love him, but I feel like that might be Adam where he'd be like, Babe, I don't need to go home though, da da da, And I'd be like, oh, I love you, babe. Okay, but this is a game we gotta get right. One of us gotta make it all like one of my fas so cute. I also, there are so many things that I loved about this episode and so many things I didn't love.

So okay. In the Daily, right interesting Daily, you could tell that they weren't planning on being out there that long. The reason I say that is because if you look at the lighting, they were not looked very well. But tells me that they did not expect to be out there that they did not expect it exactly the target challenge, would you Hell no, absolutely no, I don't care who was over there, absolutely really no abs, no what No. I feel like they just got tired of standing there

or something. I feel like it's part of why the other team. When TJ made it known that it came down two minutes and you know it's a timed situation. Baby, you're gonna drink all this, You're gonna say all your times you get those Basically, they still be there right now, right and other team period, he would have timed out like no, ain't no way, ain't no way. But you know what, No, I'm gonna save it for the gold Star. I'm an save it. I'm gonna save it. I'm gonna

save it. What I didn't think it was funny though? Was TJ laughing at Fancy That tickled me? Oh my gosh, yeah, yes, TJ was just really laughing wild And then wait, did you catch the super scary TJ moment at the end. And I know we're jumping ahead, but when Mariah got eliminated and then she comes back and she's like, oh my gosh, really I might come back in the game. I could cry and he goes do it I meant lapping. It was so creepy, like TJ, where are you on

this week? Wild? Where his rock sand? Like what are you on? Um? It also was cool seeing TJ's personal side, like getting me his wife like that and have her do the horn like that was really that was cool to him. Also him hearing him analyze the other the competitors strategies. Did you did you catch him telling? Yeah? He was like, oh you bad at DJ. Come home, man, you know what did you stand out to me? What? When it came time to pull the dagger? Amber baby, and I love me some Amber. I love her, I

love her, I love her. But this crying session between her and Nannie, no, no, I know, I feel like I actually sighed with Ambrons. I feel like Anissa though, our girl Anissa. She was like, oh God, like, let em have her little prime moment. Although I didn't know, Amber had more emotion in the dagger with Nanni than she did with Chauncey Pete Jordan talking about I'm the reason you're going in. I just want to point that out. Here's the thing I totally understand, Like just like you said.

You know, if it were you and I right, I would definitely feel some type of way because I wouldn't want to see you go into elimination. I wouldn't want to see myself going to elimination either. But at the same time, I'm not gonna say, Devin, are you sure you want to pull it first? I'm not doing that. I'm not sorry. I love you, dude, I ain't doing that. I ain't doing it sorry. Who you would do that? You would do that. You'd be like, Davion, do you

want to pull it first? We used to flip a coin and then I think the only time I ever had to go in like in the draw actually, and it was one It was me and Kara. I think she had me go first, I think, but either way we either it was like flip a coin or whatever. There was no crying, but like she cared about Nanni, like I don't. I kind of I feel for Amber in that moment, But you guys can be the mean. It's not even that because I love Amber, but that

was doing all that. Um Saturday, well, speaking a sad eye, Yes, let's get into this gold Star in this time out, girl, I need to know. I need to know where you stand this week. Yes, okay, so gold Star. There's a lot of potential here for gold Star. One one potential candidate is Harassio's hair in the Daily. It was flucky, it was luxurious, It had some volume. It looked good like you just wanted to run your fingers through it. Um. Another potential gold Star was TJ's wife like coming in

the game with some swacker like that. It reminds it's very reminiscent of Kiki, very reminiscent of like a k vibe M. Shout out to Danny and Kiki. Um. And then another potential candidate is Devin being the spotter. Like, first of all, I didn't know Sniper's had a spotter. Why does Devin know that? But also if I ever became a sniper, I'm gonna call Debbi Dev you know, because he is like three strikes to the left and then up twelve angle and then left aim fire when

you're ready, like, okay, Dev, like and didn't miss. So Dev gets the gold Star of the week. Shout across the board, across the board, Yes, across the board, shout out to Dev. And then my side eye you know, one potential candidate for side eye is whoever decides what goes into those cups that they were drinking, because that was nasty tale Like how how you like? Who how do you even think that? That's? Like no? Like and do they test that, because you know how they test

all the other suns they test drinking that stuff. Start it all in there, all right, so it looks so so absolutely nasty. Um. The other side eye goes to, well, he'll get an all of the the roomation for something because I actually don't know what Chetty put it in. But the other side that potential is um fessie trying to gaslight. Yeah, our girl Mariah like that, I mean just straight up gaslighting. Just he gets the side eye, like a major side

what about for you? Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and put him in time out as well with a dunce cap like I can't. Um, I didn't like the way that he was just like, okay, well I made it this far, I can handle the rest by myself. You can actually go home. And I'm just don't like that.

I mean, yeah, yeah, that's so whacked to me. But because to be honest, and a lot of these challenges, what was that with the mini final y'all full throw because she was pushing yeah right without when it happened, and I was like, come on fast, give her something, give her something, right, you know. And then when she gets eliminated, he goes, great season. You ain't gonna go down there and hug her and say thank you, nothing, just great season. And I'm like, come on, man, you

gotta do better than that. I want her to come back and kick his ass. So um, the honorable mentioned And I don't mean that it was honorable. It was just I don't even know because it was both shocking, mildly funny, and I think miscommunication on both their hearts. But Jordan calling our good sis Toria terrorists. You would talk about dramatics, Okay, Amber's dramatic moment with the sword

had nothing on his dramatic. You know. I was going to stick by my word until someone came to me and tried to tell me that this hinged upon our relationship. I don't negotiate with terrorists, man said, I don't know. I like, I mean, I did a half laugh. What did you think when you heard that? I didn't think nothing. I wasn't shot. I couldn't believe that he said it and and about her of all people. I was like, wait,

what it was? What it says? But it just lets us know, like it's just that situation is so deep because it's so real and we we probably don't even know the half of it. Yeah, because that blow up that they had at the table, baby, that wasn't just about that conversation. Okay, as soon as she started talking about in the reason, I said, Okay, here we go. Yeah, this has been waiting to boil over. So oh my

good ah. Oh that was so so so messy, so massy, Um, something that isn't messy is the love you guys have been sending us. So just one of all of you guys who have rated and reviewed the podcast with five stars. We have one title girl Power from MSO one two two two, who said I love all these women. They make such a fun podcast every week. Definitely one of my favorites. UM. Shout out to Emily O three who was a fan of the Challenge Aftermath and says she

loves the Sassin hilarity that we bring. So thank you so much, Emily. To E s E LP, y'all got some some creative names. Who was agreeing with someone else who left a review which I love the seats is I have to agree with T do M, I C fabulous combo, the rapport so authentic. UM love that so much. And then to those in Reddit because y'all know I'd be a counting out read it from time to time.

Cookie eleven four four who had love for us? No flatworm six five eight six, FIfF Gifford, a lot of people, We love you, thank you, and I saw some questions that they left to that we will hopefully get to answer. But before we get to that, we this episode are going to talk to our girl Mariah, and we are gonna get double to you guys. We're gonna get an exclusive, not hurt on any other podcast. She's gonna tell us about Bessie, their relationship, what she learned on lack of

the season, whether or not she do things differently. She's gonna talk about the current status of her and a certain fruit Ye both on and off the show. She may even have some secret correspondence from said Fruits that she will reveal to us on this podcast, because you know, we always are getting to see So whatever you do, keep it your ears glued because you're not gonna want

to miss this. You're gonna hear a whole bunch of things that you're not hearing anywhere else, and just get some insight and what it's like to go in as rookie and to be, you know, to think you have a rider die and find out your yeah, girl shut, I would be your writer, would be I don't know if I trust you should trust me just not to let you pull the dagger. But yeah, you can trust me everywhere else. But you see rude. Uh so they're not gonna go out if the moment happened, and I'll

be that's true. You're not like hurt and betrayed. All of you guys, all of you guys on this podcast now are shady. We're a sisterhood and all but Anissa all but said, even if you go on vacation, you can't trust you not to vote you in. Basically, Davon said, I'm not letting you pull the dagger or the draw. The only one right now that's not questionable is Tory. But you didn't be Hares. That's true. That's true. That's true too. Well. We're so glad you guys were here

grab a snack, but don't go anywhere. You're not gonna want to miss this episode with Mariah coming up next. Yes, so excited to have this guest here. You know what. I'm excited, Davon. I'm excited because I know this is gonna be a spicy interview. I know because she came in hot already when we logged on today. Sria, please welcome our special guest, talented Brookie Mariah. Who appreciate you, whoa appreciate you being so glad you came to hang out with us. Girl, I'm excited. I'm excited. You guys

are funny, so this will be fun. All thanks. I try and tell my mom that we're funny. Okay, So let's dive into it, because girl, I got questions upon questions upon questions. Well, before we get into this episode, I want to go back to the previous episode, right, because in the previous episode, Bessie asked you to look out for him during a guy's day, right, and so you said he didn't look out for you during the girls day, and girl, then he responded and said, because

you didn't say anything as Joe ride to die. Okay, how did that make you feel because it pissed me off, But how did it make you feel? Honestly, it didn't surprise me at that point anymore because Bessie did not talk to me and in the house literally at all at this point. We didn't talk every single girl in

the house more than me. You know, I would try to come up and talk to him and he would tell me to go find a girl to talk to or that he doesn't feel like why, Yeah, Maria, can you reminds again is what was your relationship with BESSI coming into this house? Like how did you guys know each other? Why did you guys know each other? Like? How did you become quote unquote ride or dies? So I end up? I think that we ended up being you know, a ride and then you could die and

all live. That's how I feel like our listening relationship it started, but um going in you know, I knew him for like about a year and we would hang out and you know, play video gad you meet him DM me? Yeah, he wrote me on Instagram and uh oh see that's his way. Yeah, he told me to you know, meet him at a bar. So I go, I'm meet him at this bar and he doesn't say a damn word to me, So I'm like, okay, he's weird.

So I wait what I like, I have to go up to him and be like hello, and so I said hi to him and then he kind of just says hi, really shy and then doesn't talk. So I tell my friend, I'm like, dude, let's go. This is weird. And then he find me and he's like, where are you going? And I'm like, dude, I'm going somewhere else. You don't talk and He's like, oh no, I'm busy, And I'm like, okay, then why'd you tell me to come? You know why? I'm so confused? Yeah, this story gets weird. Wait, wait, Maria,

are you someone who saves her dms? Like? Do you go through and delete your dms? Or do you? I I had an ex boyfriend who deleted every single DM I had with any guy before. Damn you, boda, damn you. Okay it, but I don't know I had a psychotic ex boyfriend. So that's what was his line though? Okay, what was his opening line right when he's slid into your dms? Because we had him on the podcast recently and he apparently had some girl, what was it dead?

Was it South America? Somewhere? Wait? No, Puerto Rico. I think it's Puerto Rico. I think it's Puerto Rico. Okay, Puerto Rico that he met on DMS, Um, what is what is an? Do you remember what kind of his opening line? Because because he was cold DM and you, meaning you didn't know him before, you hadn't spoken to him before. He just messaged you you're beautiful, totally get that. What did he what is it? Just like, girl, what was the I got you? Is it just a bunch

of noises? All I know he didn't I know, he didn't say anything smooth. All I know is that he was tall. So I was like, hey, you know the looks the looks, yeah, you know every time everything I know. But I've become such a different person now before if I met him now, the person that I am, he would have never even had an opportunity to be anything more than friends with me because I'm I've grown as a person, you know. So he got lucky. Oh oh I felt So then how did you guys ever actually

kind of date? Before you said you'd play games and hang out. We went on dates and you know, um, it didn't work out, which we were both cool with and up just hanging out and being friends. And you know, whenever we were bored, we would just text each other. It wasn't like we were texting all the time. He was just kind of like, were you cuddle buddies sometimes? Actually your friends? Actually no, like literally not at all, but before you were friends, where you cuddle buddies? Here

we go? Here we go sometimes? Man, this is the True Telling podcast. She said, sometimes depends on our mood. Bessy's not a bad looking guy, so like it depends on our mood. You know. The more we hung out, the more I could see where he was at. And I was in a like I was healing at that time, so I wasn't you know, taught you on a vulnerable say. Oh yeah, yes, it wasn't in my best forms. So yeah, but we you know, we ended up being friends, and we were the friends that if we were bored, we'd

be like, you want to hang out? Or you know, if he was going out with the guys and like wanted a girl to come, he would be like, hey, do you want to come? You know, want to hang out with them? How did the conversation come about then for you, when he was reached out to do like Ride or Dies, how did that? How did he present that to you? Walk us through it? What that was like.

He was just like, Hey, I might need to bring a girl for a ride or Dies, and I don't want to bring my sister, and you're very athletic, and you know we get along and I know that me and you won't have any issues in the house. Would you want to come? It's probably not going to happen, but I'm just throwing it out there and I was like, oh, okay, sure. So he kind of downplayed it. So I downplayed it. And then they sent us to Atlanta to do like

the testings, and he still downplayed it. I downplayed it, and then we got the call like three days before and we were like, oh shit, okay, it's real. Sohow interesting because he kept saying something that stuck out to me and day. I don't know if you caught this, but throughout this season, you know, obviously for many of the pairs, there is someone who is experiencing a challenge and someone who isn't who they're bringing in right right,

And I could be wrong, but in my memory. It's only vessel that I can recall constantly saying I brought her onto this show like I brought you here. I did this as if you owe him something, and it's just become so cringe that he liked under beholding that. Yeah, I mean he did hold it against me. I don't know. I feel like it was really rude of him to say, because I seriously jeopardize. I didn't know that I would like to compete in this or that I would like

it the way. So going into the season, like I was literally just following his lead. I was chilling. I was there for the ride, you know, like I just wanted to you trusted him, Yeah, you trusted that he had your best interest at heart. And you know, I didn't watch the previous seasons besides the ones that the producers told me to watch, and you know, I saw how he because they wanted you to see how messy he was, just so you know, Mariah, they were trying

to give you a heads up. MESSI FESSI for a reason, but I literally, yeah, I saw him with Anissa and I was like, Okay, you're a little jerk. I'm like please, I'm like, you know me outside of this. You brought me here. It's one thing, you know, it's a game. You gotta betray people do things that you know aren't proud of. Really, but when you're not to me, yeah, because you brought me here, motherbucker. Like I'm not a random,

Like I'm not someone you met in the game. You brought me here, like I've never done this before, you know. And he was I won't lie. He was a great partner when it came to competing. But as far as like making sure I feel good, showing me how to do things, I had to do that like all by myself, you know. You know what. I'm a fast forward because I was gonna ask you this question later, but since we on topic, I'm gonna just go ahead and do it. And the interrogation, we kind of saw him like not

even so much throw you under the bus, gar. He just pushed you off the bus and kept the bus rolling right. And so my question to you is just just watching all of the episodes and listening to everything that he had said, especially in this episode, do you feel used? Oh my god, Yeah, As when I look back on it, it's like Professie to do that in there. I told him. I'm like, you know, it's very funny that out of all places to talk to me, I've been trying to talk to you for days and this

is where he was to talk to me. Because for days before that, I felt horrible. I beat myself up about it. I cried in the bathroom just because you know, I still felt bad. He was he was an ass, but I still was under the impression that, like you know, he kept telling me that he wasn't saying these things and that people are trying to get in my head, and you know, it's my first time in there, and

I still trusted him. So you know, watching it back, it's like you did get ribon in the green light and you were spiteful, but you know, I know that spiteful never win, so you know, wow, my goodness. But you know what all of that of you saying that he didn't talk to you, and you know, he didn't check on you like you guys weren't the typical ryder dyes inside of the house kind of explains the Burn vote. But I want you to explain it More's talk more

about that Burn vote. So the vote Devint Devin put it in my head that if I didn't, you know, put in a vote that they're going to put someone in our guys team. And honestly, I looked at the elimination, I looked at Fessie, and out of all of the guys on his team, Fessie was going to be every single one on the team for that eliminating. I had no doubt about it. And then I thought about it.

I was feeling so bad and I was like, damn, if I was in this position, Fessie would never do that for me, Like, because he's been saying things in that in that interrogation, he told the girls that he's closer to all of them than me, like he's shut the front door. Yes, he trusted the girls more than he trusted me, and that he's known them longer than me.

And in my head, I'm like, you're very weird for that, because you brought me here, you put me in this, and now it's like ride until you know I need you and then you could go die, you know, So you felt disposable, yes, And watching it back how I felt in the moment, it's so crazy, Like it's true that having experience on the show and you know, doing it once and seeing what you did wrong could really

open your eyes. I was speeding myself up about doing that because that's not the type of person I am. And now watching it back, I'm so glad I did that. I would do it again, look and just to be just to be normal person's advocate. I don't like saying devil's advocate. He needs no advocates, but it's a normal person's advocate. Now. I don't agree with Bessie on many things, most things, but I can understand now, and this is this is just this isolated moment, all right, this isolated moment.

Everything else is this everything I can understand how in that moment, being up there on the chopping block and having my ride or die have to say a name like I. I can understand him being mad in that moment and feeling like that was a betrayal. No, no, I felt horrible. It wasn't, and you know Mallet's and tent. But looking back at it now, I would have done

it again. So that's how do you guys know? That's how I feel that your team would have to go, some of your team would have to go in if you guys tied up the votes, were you told that explicitly Devin convinced me and actually going, yeah, den't really

be on it. Literally the whole team where they they're like, the only we're not going to tell anyone what we're doing, guys, the only person in this group we don't trust to not tell they're righted eyes Mariah, because I was defending right so they all they all kept it from me that they're gonna see. And at the end Amber came in so Jordan before he called Toria Taurus or tauris what the hell a terrorist and all that terrorists, which is wild. We'll get to that crazy yeah, oh do

you want me to say this fire or no? No? Yes, no, no no, say it. We'll get to yes. Yeah. You know. We went in the room and he's like, who told Tori something? Who told her? We're all like, dude, we didn't see anything. Um. Jordan was so like particular about us not talking. He moved his exercise bike by one of the rooms. I felt like he was watching me like a hawk, and Amber like put me in a room and she's like, I need to tell you something. Jordan's watching like a hawk and I don't want to

say Fussie's name. And I was like, Okay, don't say Fussie's name, you know, And so at this point I'm like, okay, Fessi's main vote. I know this. So I'm the bus. Jordan's sits next to me, like, you know, not directly next to me, but right across from me, and he's watching me. So shadow, yeah, it was like a hawk. So I sit next to Fessie. I don't move my neck at all, I don't my lips, and I tell him and get ready because I knew you'd at this point, and but I didn't know how many people were in

on this. I knew that like it was their plotting. So then when we saw the elimination, I told the whole team. The guys, I said, where We asked, We're like, who are you guys putting in? They kept saying, I don't real, So you know, I told him. I said, that's fine if you guys put a Fessie and he's one hundred percent coming back, and that would just be

us to move because he's going to come back. And um, I'm not going to have my team going because I hate my guys, you know, and you know we were dude, our team was getting direct or hell Okay, we were like the little pip squeaks getting wiped off. I could or could not depending on the day, tried. Yeah, and the little indis she tried. Um. Right on your Twitter, you were going off and you said I defended Bessie's character so much to the other challengers when he didn't

deserve it. He talked about me behind my back, making crazy statements like he carried me and many more. What were some of the other crazy statements that you heard Bessie was saying about you in the house while purporting to be your rider die. So besides Bessie saying that he carried me throughout the challenges, he also said, you know, um, I held her hand and then as soon as we split teams, he's like, not my partner, not my problem anymore. When I was sick, Wow, he told he said he

was closer than the other girls and me. He also told me that he didn't know if he wanted me to go home or Nanni, like he couldn't he couldn't decide who you wanted to go home? What. Yeah, and your foot didn't ever accidentally slip and hit him in the mouth or at egor accidentally trip and just like keep him in the face one time. I R not that I condone violence. I don't, but that's wild. When he said that he couldn't decide if he wanted, you know,

Nannie to go home or me. That hurt me because it's like, dude, you brought me here, and I remember I went back because you know, I was feeling soft a little, so I was trying not to cry because I was like, damn, like what am I? You know, like why is this my partner? You know? I would look at other teams and I'd be like, damn, Like, for instance, Nelson, Nelson was such an amazing partner to his teammate, checking on her, you know, giving her protein shakes,

working out with her, you know, talking. Not a great partner to Olivia though, But that's neither here nor there. Yeah oh no, yeah, so I love Nelson. I do too. Um so yeah, it just it was definitely eye opening. And then, you know, watching the episode of him telling Casey like, you know, how how ride or die? Are we really? You know, and then saying cases my real ride or die? Well, then you should have had him as your partner, motherfucker? You know right? Right? Oh god?

Um what was Banana saying about all of this, because obviously you were very close to the ban and he has a lot of experience in this game, and he's one who just gives his opinion on things. So what as this you're experiencing this? Are you kind of letting him in on what you're hearing? Is he the one telling you that are said about you? No? I mean Olivia told me, Neurice told me. He said it to me. You know. Um for instance, you know the challenges, like he messed up a lot, and I never once made

him feel bad. I never once blamed him. You know, it just is what it is. If we don't win our stars to the line. You know, we weren't ready for the win. That's just how I feel about things, you know. Encouragement yeah yeah, but for him, like you know the car challenge, I kind of wanted to try jumping on the cars, but you know, damn whump because if we don't win, you know, he's gonna blame it on me. He's gonna blame that he did he would have won. You know, did Bananas give you any advice

on how to handle this? Like, I'm just so curious on what his take was because he's very perceptive. I felt like Bananas was my partner, Like he didn't like he didn't like Festie in the house. He you know, he obviously played his part in their team. But he told me, like, you know how he is, you know, he he treats women disposable. He is only good to them when he needs them. And he was basically telling me, like to get my grip together and just be in

the game. Yeah, and luckily I'm the type that can still compete when I'm feeling a type of way. Yeah. Right, so we why we got Johnny on the line? Okay, I want to that. I want to dab on into that. How did this start? This, this you and Johnny? How did this come about? What did he do to woo you? Yeah? So Johnny is not my type? You know normally, Why do you say that? What about him? What about him? What about him? Is not your type? I don't know.

It's just you know, Johnny's handsome. But you know, I've I've had you know, more like you know, my age, taller, you know, stuff like that. But uh, okay, it's but no, Actually, out of all of the guys that I've talked to, I would say that Johnny is the best one, and I know a lot of people will be like, okay, whatever, he's really charming. Um, but not even that. Actually, it's like the first time that Johnny tried. He tried kissing me in the kitchen and I denied him because you know,

I don't know him, or curbing him in the house. Girl. Yes, oh my god, so hard. Everyone thought I was playing him, but that's just like, I don't know you, and I think that because everyone else was jumping the like the first day at someone, they would like immediately like start hooking up and stuff. So yeah, I kind of forced him to get to know me, you know, and um,

way to do it, girl, girl. Yeah, he was very persistent, like he'd make me breakfast every morning, coffee every morning, every single t looking in the challenge challenge Yeah, yeah, you know he wouldn't he like he would make me love letters, little poem right, yeah right, I know you have one of those. You may have deleted Bessie's DMS, but I know, girl, you have somewhere in that house near you. You were boxed somewhere in the garage, but I could, I could find him later. I just moved

and it's definitely in a box. Oh okay, before we get off this podcast, we're gonna give you a couple minutes to find those letters. Mean, yeah, No, he's so sweet. Every single challenge he would make me something like there was like a metal like gate thingy and he took he ripped a piece out of it and he made a heart for me. Um. He there was like one plant with like one flower on it, and he like went and then put it on my bed. He did such nice thing, not killed the final flower on the

plant for you. And when I was for real, when I was sick, like he like always made sure it was good. I felt like I was his partner as much as Nanny was. You know, look at I love seeing I love hair bear side. No, I really do. He's the nicest guy and I know a lot of people have different opinions about him, but I don't think it's fair, Like if you fuck up and then people just put that at that like that to do I mean, you know, like that more than once though, he Yeah,

he shaded. He shaded Bessie this episode about Bessie having a tangled web and having to get out of situations that involves women. That is definitely the pot calling the pot because one day someone's got to be someone day, someone's got to be better. And if it's not this time, you know, I'm not afraid to yes girl. Yeah yeah, not you making me a stand girl? I mean I still question your choice using Johnny, but I appreciate that message and I like it. Wait where do you guys stand? Period? Now?

I was going right there, So I'm you know, I'm a private person. But are we hanging out? Yes? And you know, is he still a great guy? Yes? Has he gotten the kissing more? Don't worry, it's just me and Davon here. It's a safe space. Um. Well yeah, so she got that was a couple. I'm tired that is. Yes. Wait does this mean you get free Banana's merch? No? Those T shirt TV selling? Oh yeah? Is he trying to get you to advertise it for it? Is he trying to get you to take social media picks in

it and post them? No? No, but I offered to do it just because he's so sweet to me and helps me out, like even with like business opportunities. He always will bring my name up in an opportunity and I appreciate someone like that. I love to hear them. So it's nice to have someone who isn't competing with me and wants to like build me up. You know, good job, Johnny, I'm here for you know. I questioned it when I heard about Day Did you question it?

I was like, wait, Bananas and Mariah, wait what? But like, I think it's cute? What do you think Day? I didn't question it. I was just like Johnny's dude, everyone's question of Johnny. There's a whole thing playing him. I was like, oh damn yeah. Okay, So before we go any further, and I know it's good. Okay, we need to take a quick break and we'll be right back after this. Let me tell you about something that didn't

work out, and that was this daily challenge. Okay, let's get into this target challenge that did not work out at all. Okay, Let's talk about you having to stand there and watch Bessy struggle through this target challenge. How did that feel? And how do you think you would have done if you would have been the one that had to go up? Bro? If I had okay, if I had Devin there, that's okay, Yeah, would I be able to do it. Yes, would I chug it? Yes, Like I rather chug that than swim honestly, so do

we know what it was? It was like fish oil and like a dunk and it was nasty. But watching them do it, dude, you know, I'm I'm also competitive and I was getting pissed and obviously, you know, we ended up starting to feel bad for a festage, so we helped him. Did that work out in our favor? Oh my god? Yeah, what the hell of course I do. But uh, you know, it just shows what type of team we are, and you know, the type of people we are, and you know, maybe I don't take that

back being like having the heart that we do. You know what, when I was watching the episode at first, I was just kind of like, like, I'm not gonna I laughed a little bit, but I was kind of concerned as to why at the end of it, when it was all said and done, everyone went to console festy accept you. But now, you know, now get in

the background, Tea, I kind of get it. Why you just went over with your teammazing was like, He'll be all right, Yeah, I mean I literally we were an awkward stage, like we weren't talking and you know, he wasn't He wasn't talking to me ever since well, actually he wasn't talking to me ever, let's be honest. But I would literally be like, hey, do you want to talk about what happened? Like, do you have anything you want to say to me? And he wouldn't say anything.

You know, I had to hear that. Yeah, but we get to you're a part of the challenge, and you see what it is and how difficult it is. At any point, do you wish you had volunteered for the other stations? And which one would it have been. I mean, I feel like I could have done any of the other ones. You know, we just didn't know. We knew that the last one was going to be something with strength,

so we kept me for that one. But I didn't know it was going to be ripped shrink, okay, Like, so any time I would hold, by the time Jordan would get to my leg and hold for a little bit, I was done for Like after you tried doing that a couple of times and you don't do it fast and you're just holding there, It's like I didn't want to let go. My hands would just rip off, and I didn't have the grip strength for it, you know, have the strength that Chauncey had, and it just didn't

work out for us. Horrible. Yeah, I wouldn't know that today, Like what made you hold out to do the last one or like what was your team's discussion around which pairs which would do what? Well? They wanted me for the strength, because you know, they're like, you're the strongest girl on our team, and then they like the puzzle. We're We're fine with I guess whoever doing the puzzle, Like the puzzle wasn't the strength of any of us, Like it wasn't like our favorite thing to do, so

no one was like jumping to do the puzzle. So nannies, we're like, okay, cool, you know, and um, Harasio and Jordan wanted to do the last one with me, gotcha. Yeah, when we let's take it to the interrogation a little bit. Yeah, when you look back and you see the girls campaigning against you, so you see both Nanni and Amber sort of saying, hey, don't look at me, look at Mariah.

How did you feel watching that back and at the time did you have any inclination that that's how the conversations would be going well, I mean, I'm a frickin rookie. I knew. I mean, I knew it was gonna be me, and honestly, like, I cost the girls' day, so why wouldn't it be me? You know what I mean? But actually then that was a good thing. So they should have been like, thank you, Maria, let me not put you in because now we don't have a girls' day.

But you know it's not gonna be It's not gonna be Nannie of course, because everyone on the other side is protecting her. And then as far as Amber, the only thing that I thought was kind of funny was saying that I betrayed her because it's like, you were gonna stay Nannie, and I say Nannie, And you know if I didn't save Nannie, you were gonna save Nanni. So how are you upset at me? You know you

were you both were shady for that. Yeah, yeah, well, no, I owed my loyalty, I asked ne Reese because Nourice. Think about it, Nourse saved me two times by not putting me in, and then she saved us over Olivia Carrassio because we knew Nourse would be people. So if Nourse's main vote, and she saved me three times. Amber has not saved me any times. Who do I owe more than with you? And who's going into the religion?

It's nice. And she said that she wanted to go against Nanni, so I went and I solidified a deal with Nanni. So regardless of Nannie making a double deal, she was saved by me anyways, because that's who Nose wanted. And you know, the last couple of minutes, Nanni's like, I don't know, I want to go against Amber. And I told her, I said, dude, you know, you're switching up on me and I just made a deal and I don't want to go back on that deal, right, so you know, and then she's like, no, no, I'm

gonna go against Amber. Yeah. Yeah, So that's so that's why I said Nani for her Amber, because I asked Norase and I had loyalty to these Norse was a roomy. You know, she saved me three times. Amber. Me and Amber were friends, but Amber was in her room, you know, twenty four seven with Chaunty. Yeah. So it's like, you know, and and I like Amber a lot, you know, but when it came down who I had loyalty too in

this game. You know, I didn't know her outside of this game, so I picked Nannie, you know, so for her to be upset about it when she was going to do the same thing, and you know, later on she told me, you know, hey, me and Nanni made a deal. So I was like, why are you upset? You know? Yeah, that's what relationships are so important. You have to build relationships inside this house. Absolutely, speaking of Nanni, how was it going up against Nanni? Like, were you

a little intimidated? Were you excited just given her history? What was that feeling when you were going against her in elimination? Man? Hell no, I don't want to go against elimination with anybody, like I'm gonna gamble my game, and like, for instance, it showed them eliminations. You just never know. Like when Nanni and I were in the elimination, I was on my sixth word friendship, and I realized

that the word was friendship. And what happened was, since I had all of my letters in the sand, the magnet wasn't sticking and my letters fell down from the word devotion. So I had the word devotion correct the first time. But you know, and I knew that Nanni was close because of Casey's constant talking. So I spent and I put the word friendship up and I looked and I was like, damn, you know, I thought I did it, and I looked and I dropped my letters in the sand, and I was careless, and I lost

because of that. Okay, spell it right now, Mariah, spell devotion right now. Don't look Okay, D E V O T I O N. That is incorrect. I'm kidding, that is right. Basically, you're saying you lost because of Casey right, constant talk, you know, actually talk. Well, No, you know it was me with the sand. You know, when as soon as I dropped the letters, I should have put them on the correct way, and I didn't do that. I was just such in a rush to put the

word friendship that I didn't check my work. Yeah, and then don't because yeah, I think about MESSI when you were spelling the word friendship at all? Did Bessie come to mind? Hell? No, period all I wanted you know at that moment, you know, I actually was upset in that moment. I was upset at Casey, I was upset

at Nanni, and I was upset at FSSI. I was upset at Casey Nanni because it's like, damn, I just saved you last week, you know, and now Casey's you know over here saying my name, I just saved your girl friend. Dude, Like I you know, when people get in the moment though, like yeah, but that's how I think, mama. So you know, I was thankful, honestly, you know, knowing

that I was getting back in the game. I was okay that I was out because I would have acted on anger and like, I don't like being that person. And I was mad, like I was ready to get back in the house. Oh, you're saying you would have brought some heat. I was, no, you did get back in. What would you have done? What are the first two things you would have done? Or said you're coming back in the house. I was going to tell everyone to fuck themselves, like I was just done, Like I was ready,

Like really, I was done. I was pissed. And then you know, other you know, people are telling me now that I watched the interrogation, like, um, Amber didn't really talk shit, but um, you know, they were saying that Amber was talking about me in um deliberation and that she was you know, um, I feel I feel like it was Olivia and Johnny, but I'm not. I can't give one hundred percent because you know, my brains fried now,

so I don't remember all of those details. But um, yeah, I remember I hit a whole bunch of things that I was worked you know, I was worked up. So going back and you know, being waiting, you know, knowing that I'm still in the game, I had time to reflect and be like, Okay, it's not that serious. You know, you're here to win, like fuck all the small stuff. But at the moment, I was like, this is huge. I'm done being Fussy's friend. I'm not helping Casey again.

I hope they get out like I was pissed. That's just the fire. If you come back there, oh my gosh. Right, if you come back next season or when you come back, I'm gonna just put it out at some point when you come back, do you think that you'll slip back into that mode? Like do you think that the memories will all come flooding back? Uh? You know, if you're on a season with Casey and Nanny and all that. No, I'm listen, I'm a reasonable I'm a reasonable person, but

I'm not a global person anymore. Like I feel like I was so naive. I look back in the season and I literally just I was so naive. I just really trusted people because I don't know why people are. You know, I know it's a game, but like I feel guilty when I lie too much, you know, like I'll start feeling bad. So you know, in my head, I'm like, Okay, they're not doing that, because I would beat myself up. But if I did that, you know, um So now it's like I was talking to my

dad and he's like, yeah, I'm right. He's like, you're really nice. So people take advantage of it. You know. If you go on another season, you know, you got to play people. And I'm like, damn, you know what if I do go on another season, I am going to play people like I'm not. You don't have to you don't have to fully play people I know don't play. There's a way to play the game without being right.

But Fessie was definitely gaslighting the mental gymnastics that occurred when he tried to say to you, well, no, I'm not you didn't help my team win last week. But are you going to help my team win this week? Like? What after? He like, I believe he asked me yeah, and then had a straight bas and had the adsy get an attitude when you were like yeah, And I didn't want to, let you know, I didn't want to let the guys down on our team, you know, like

they're a bust aass for us. And you know, even though we weren't winning, I still was appreciative, you know, and like, I don't I don't want to just throw them for someone who you know wouldn't even do the same for me. Yeah. Oh my god, this is why I don't go down here, bro, even your dogs. Right. Yeah? Where do you and Fassy stand today? Yeah? Um, I mean I just he I have no bad blood. I still you know, I still wish good on Fessy. But you know, do I want to hang out so anymore? No?

Like just right now, it's like I don't want to hang out. Will you be responding to any of his DM No? No, Like I mean that was even so old and insignificant, you know, but coming onto it now, like you know, if he if he needs me for something, you know, am I gonna respond? No? But if I'm not going to be mean to him, is what I'm saying. Like, I'm not a mean person. I'm not gonna be mean. But am I going to ask you to hang out or you know, go out of my way for you? Again? No? Yeah,

I ride in that Okay. But TJ tells you that you can come back into the game, right. I'm looking at your facial expression as he's telling you this, and I'm also listening to your tone. You don't say I'm too excited, Like were you ready to go home? Um? I wasn't ready to go home like I was. I guess I just accepted that I was going home because in my head I knew that I didn't lose, because in the elimination I felt like I didn't lose because I couldn't do it right. I lost because you know,

of my stupid errors. You know, it wasn't something that I was like, damn quick question. By the way, did they tell you guys to pit the buzzer? Yes? They did. They tell you when they were giving the rules of meaning Okay, because I didn't remember. Me and Nanni were just the fact that both of you forgot about it. Yeah, yeah, we were just both like a freaking airhearted at the moment. Yeah, both of us were like la la la um. But I don't know what the hell. Oh I was excited,

but you know I wasn't. I was pissed at people. So for me, when I'm pissed, like it takes me a moment to get out how I feel because like I'm just I have so many emotions. So I just didn't know going back in the game. I was all I was thinking about was like, how am I going to act now? And what how am I going to go moving forward when I get back in. And then you know, of course I'm thinking like, okay, how do I get back in? Am I competing? Am I going in? Like?

Can I steal someone's partner? Can I do this? You know, I had a whole bunch of things in my mind, So your mind was just in a million different places. I get yeah, I get it. Yeah, So you know I could have, you know, acted different, but like that's just truly how I was feeling in the moment. Wow, y'all got come from rider guys to rivals in one season period. Yeah, y'all got to perform in front of

TJ's wife, Like, how would beautiful. Oh my goodness. Yeah, she's beautiful and she's super sweet, and it was it was really encouraging, you guys. Oh yeah, she was very encouraging. And you know, Nannie did great. Um, she did great all season. Like obviously they don't high like, they don't highlight one person the whole entire time. But like as far as like competing, I see I see people say like kind of mean things online about Nannie and I competed next to her, and she did very well. Amazing,

she did very well. They would have they would have won so many more times if Johnny didn't like, you know, lose on purpose because Nannie was doing good even Yeah, we heard about that a little bit that we heard Bananas was talking some talk about not actually wanting to win, yeah, and Nannie wanted they didn't want the weight of voting

explain that. Yeah, So you know a lot of people were kind of doing that, like no one wanted to win because then you know, you make four enemies and then you know her four team enemies, and then that's just easier for you know, if if they win, for them to say your name, and anyone's looking for an excuse to put in anyone's name. So you know, Nanni wanted to win, Johnny didn't want to win. So like, I feel like Nanni and Johnny could have won a

whole bunch more because Nanni this. I don't know how she was other seasons, but this season she was freaking like confident. Yeah, she had almost her whole time, Yeah, being a badass. She's scrappy. I've scrappy like I did. Like I enjoyed seeing YouTube both compete in that elimination, and I loved her fighting, but I just I loved to see her get her fire back after this elimination. Like you can tell a fire was lit up under her after she won this elimination, And I'm like, oh,

Nanni's here, Oh she's here, ladies. And Genia she has she has risen. It was good. Um. Okay, so you spilled a lot of tea and oh, actually, there's two things that would have left for you, mar Um. One of the things is our final segmentum where we have three questions for you about your supposed ride or die Bessie. And we did the same with him when we had him on the podcast. I'm pretty sure he failed miserably. Oh girl, I think he had one right? Yeah, oh girl,

So uh, let's see how many you get? Right? Are you confident, Maria that you're gonna get all three of these? Let's see? I think so. All right, So Bessie started going by Fessel this season, right, What does fessel mean? Decision maker? Come on, g yes, girl, yes, not even hesitation. What does Johnny Banana's mean he worked out? He worked out Fania Republic? It does. Yes, that's a bonus point. Yes, all right, yeah, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

ask you a Banana's question. Also for each of these, we're just gonna do a double wavy. This is only for you, Mariah. Okay. Number two, what is Bessie's position in football? Oh damn, I don't know. I have no clue. I don't even I don't even know. I'll give you. I'll give you three options, so you can pick one of the three. Quarterback, tight end, running back. I'd say running back. No, girl, he can't run. He's a tight end. I'm kidding. I don't even know what tight ends to do.

I don't know anything. That's why I'm like, uh, yeah that I wouldn't know. I don't know his college stats, none of that. Okay. What sport did Bananas play when he was younger? Um? I don't know his childhood. Uh, I'm gonna say baseball. That could be right. I don't know. I don't have the answer for that because it's imprompt too, but we'll just told me to answer. He told me he did to play baseball, so I'm probably correct. Yeah. Well, okay, all right, so we'll give you that point. Then we

trust you. All right, day you want to do number three? Say final question? Okay, what it's Bessie's bachelor's degree in? Um? He's ah, I know, he's a substitute teacher. He was with his degree in. He's teaching kids. Um mass Oh is it? I that's interesting? Is he good at math? No? No, he's gonna is it? I don't. I don't know. It's something that probably helped with his ability to gaslight? Oh god, psychology? Yeah, yeah, girl, Oh he's a professoral what was bananas? What is Bananas

quoted as saying was his job or role? Not the not the Banana Republic job. What has he been quoted as saying is his job for for what? Like? Well? In life, he said this a couple of years ago. Oh, I don't anybody still say that. I never I never knew. I never researched him, nothing, I have nothing. He called himself a stay at home son. Long time? What a nerd? Very long time? I would, very very long time. Like even after multiple challenge wins a long time, he still

called himself a stay at home son. All right, all right, so you have one for three with Bessie. You're supposed ride or die, and two out of three you know, we died, yes, girl die sometimes. Oh boy, oh boy boy. Yeah. Let this be a cautionary tale to people about their d ms and the people they respond to. You know, it's okay to hit the block button sometimes. Um, the last thing you have for you, though, Mariah, because I did not forget. We never forget. Okay, let's hear it.

Can we just give you like two and a half minutes to go looking about if you don't out of here a letter? Okay? Let me see hold on. We love you forever and have boxes literally stacked up to my scene like right now? Does he have good handwriting? Yeah? Oh? If he plays guitar for me all the time, he's so sweet, like he played guitar from I love this. Okay, I can hear her. Looking for the letters, I have some, an see, I have a cute one from Monnie. Um I saved, like, oh, let me see. Ah, I know,

have Laurel on here. Okay, I found one, but it's it's just a stupid little pole. That's okay, Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it, let's hear it Johnny Banana's original. So I was mad at him. I don't remember why, but talking the house for like like maybe like three hours. It was awkward, you know, and you know, you're a house together, and we'd like go get coffee and like look away. Um he put he put missed you like the deserts missed the rain, and then he put a

sad rain cloud. Oh I cannot, I cannot. That's so cute. It's like very like middle school, but in like a fun and cute way. That's cute. I have no idea where the rest are, but I had a whole bunch. But no, that was good. I mean, if you want to find more and sendto screenshots, you can't. But because I want you guys to protect what you know when you start open stuff, up to the public. Yeah, a lot of people have stupid opinions, and you know, for me, it's like, so, are you confirming you guys are in

a committed relationship? Oh my god, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm literally not confirming anything. That are you denying that you guys a committed relationship. I'm keeping me and his thing private just because like how she said, I you know, I like is a thing. That's what I'm hearing that. Mariah, Baby, where can the people find you on social media? I'm an interrogation Mariah jade A Mariah with an oh love it? Ye? All over? Make sure I'll go follow Peper please all over?

Oh yeah, I've been all over this podcast. And we love you, Mariah for being so open, so fun. Thank you for rocking with us and sharing. And you did a hell of a job on your rookie season. We don't know to come. Hopefully we get to see you make it back in the house, but yes, if we don't, we are real that you're a part of the Challenge family and Messi Bessie may not have treated you in the way in which you deserve, but the one gift that he's not gonna let the world forget is that

he brought you. He brought you, and guess what he can't unlike what black Mamas tell you, which is I brought you in this world. I can take you out, Bessie, cannot take you out of the Challenge world now that you're in it. So you're officially a part of the family. And I'm confident if we don't see you back this season, we will certainly see you on future seasons because you bring the table. Yeah, I really appreciate it, guys, like I'd love to hear that. It makes my mout What

the hell? I can't even talk now? You're making you guys, make me smile. Start you can write us love letters. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty solved, so you know I probably could. You're amazing. Give your dogs pets for us and a big dog. And thank you so much for hanging with us today. Yes you, guys, thank you, thank you. Hi yo. That was such a great interview with miss Marajah. I'm so glad she came to hang out with us. She was been and honest and vulnerable with us, like, thank you girl. Yes,

so fun. We need to start doing these lives because I find these guests we have, we would totally grab a drink with them and just like have fun with them. They would definitely hang out. What should look into that? Yeah? Yeah, hell yeah yeah. So speaking of hanging out, yeah, we thought the same thing. Oh, I love that that happens. Yes, where can they hang out with you? Are you on Twitter? Okay? Because a lot's happening in your community over the last

few weeks. How do you feel about this with Twitter? And are you still using it? So here's the thing with Twitter. I did step back from Twitter, and the reason I step back from Twitter was because I've been on a detox okay, and I just have to detox from toxic places. And I don't get me wrong, I love Twitter, but I'm aware that there are very toxic places within the community. Not my people, not on my street, not on my block, but in the neighborhood. They are there.

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