Mini Crush #88

for it, so I'm mad at her. Uh, Noel doesn't lose things. He once lost his keys and found them in a roller bag. Uh handle recessed handle compartment. That's true. And we're doing Halloween content all of October, through many crushes, through horror movie round tables. Noel got out of jury duty. What else? Well, I funked up the first recording, Chuck,

that's that's that's that's the big takeaway here. I had both tracks queued up to your mike, so your mike exists for those first seven minutes, which you know, if it could have been a ghost knol episode, maybe we'll do that. Maybe we'll just play the one happen. Let's just I mean, I didn't say anything faintly picks up yours. It does that. I didn't say anything of note your your your stuff is what mattered the most, chuck. We can probably frankenstein this together, but let's get right into

horror Halloween social studies. I feel like there was one of the important things we said that was jury duty chain wallet. Well, that's I said that the only person is allowed to have a chain wallet as a biker if you're in like a proper gang. That wasn't the important thing I thought it was. That was that was what I remember being important. Oh man, we are so frazzled now all right. Time is short, though, so let's just go right on and dive into social studies. Social studies.

This is all social studies, all the time for these next two because I want to know what you guys think of horror movie content. The most terrifying scene of all time. I didn't think a lot about this, Knoll, but I went with Scream, And if you'll indulge me, let me quickly tell my story again. Uh, Scream is not the scariest movie ever by any means. Um. But

when I saw that movie. It was when my brother was general managing theater chains and he would queue up movies late night that would come in that had not been released yet. I bet that was fun. It was a lot of fun. American Beauty Magnolia. I have like a list of movies over those couple of years that I saw like weeks ahead of time alone usually or

with her friend. So I saw Scream with her friend late at night after the mall had closed, and that first scene in sequence with Drew Barrymore concluding with the camera flying up to her hanging dead in the tree. Scared the ship out of me that night. Yeah, and walking alone through the mall with my friend, well, that's already scary. Scary, it's already scary. I mean, have you've

seen the movie Chopping Mall. It's about killer robots, and it takes place in a mall after hours, which is already a really scary place because you know you shouldn't be there, you don't belong there. Shock um. But that scene is so well shot and well paced. It's just so effective, and it does that whole like trope of the you know Janet Lee in Psycho, where it's like she's the most famous person. She's obviously gonna make it. And even when she gets stabbed, you're like, no way,

no way. And then she's hanging from the tree. She's absolutely dead, and the phone with her parents like dying. It was all really really well done, really really good. So I want to hear about yours from audition. Yeah,

it's just really quickly. I mean, if you guys haven't seen auditions, slight spoilers with that movie is so effective because it like it tricks you into this false sense of security where you think it's this one kind of movie that sort of like romantic almost melodrama about a guy whose wife has passed away and his sort of sleazy boss hooks him up with this dating service and

it goes as wrong as it could possibly go. But the thing is the guy is not actually the misogynistic kind of man that the that the woman who he ends up getting connected with is sort of like fighting back against I guess for lack of a better term. So he's sort of innocent, but she ends up making him kind of the object of her hatred towards men, and she's been abused by horrible men in the past and all of that, and she ends up like most brutal torture scene I've ever seen that just takes you

by total surprise. I won't go too much into it. I think you should check it out if you hadn't seen it. But it's very brutal and I had to walk out of the room the first time I saw because it was mainly not that I'm like a whimp, but I just was so taken aback by how far it went when I wasn't expecting that. Um, it really really did a number on me. Also, we should bring

back whimp whimp. I've heard that in a while. Yeah, I remember that the Diary of a Whimpy Kid movies, you know, books, all right, So I'm gonna start off with firstise because I think they earned that, and I'm gonna go it happens to be an old pal Caroline. That means the first person to post got it? Uh, Caroline Gaston, old friend says growing up was the abduction scene and fire in the sky. Who's in that? Uh? That was? Is that the Quaidster? No with is that?

You guys are down like that? Now? I call him the Quaidster, call him cue, she said. Recent memory the last ten minutes of Hereditary. That whole movie scared me. Yeah. No, it's a it's very very very well done, also well paced, and just absolutely gets in your head and kind of sticks with you kind of movie. Yeahs, highly recommended. Joel Croupy says in television that car scene and Haunting of Hill House, I don't know it. I don't want it to be spoiled because I might watch that this year.

Is that the shot the TV show? Yeah, it's great. He said. There was a car scene an episode eight that just scared the hell. There's a there's a particularly creepy character that kind of pops up every now, and I think that's what they're talking about. It's it's it's good, it's very well done. Old friend Debbie Franka Dukas says the scene an Event Horizon where they show a series of flashes of people being tortured on the other side. Yeah, man,

Event Horizon had some scary parts. That movie messed me up again because of the expectations thing, because from the trailer, as you kind of thought, it was just gonna be like maybe a little bit of a creepy alien sci fi type movie, and it was full on brutal body terror. You know, space horror, space horror, And I was very young when I saw that movie. Really messed me up for sure. Agreed, agreed, let me see here, Trish later

Hassa gil Breath, great name, says a Loss. Yeah, hello T T R. H O s Yeah, I've never never seen the name before and until this is the second time. Trish says the pale man scene from Pan's Labyrinth, which I still haven't seen. Oh, it's so good, it's a whole it's just a good movie. It's just it's very it's beautiful. It's heartbreaking, but it's a beautiful movie. Yeah, this one goes in a different direction. Old friend Alison Couch says the sweet hereafter when the school bus goes

off the road. Uh, yeah, that that's terrifying, not in a horror movie way, but truly terrifying. Did you ever see that? Adam Egoyan, the director, Yeah, no, do not know. I was a big fan of his, haven't seen him in a while. Rick Swaine says the splitting scene in Bone Tomahawk the most, single handily the most disturbing death scene I've seen in a movie. I've heard about this I've not seen it, dude, Bone Tomahawk gets so good

it is it kind of schlocky? Like no, no, it's it's awesome and weird and like a mash up of genres and like totally totally creative. I think that guy did one other thing that's supposed to be really good to us talking to Casey Pagram about it, and he recommended another film with his I'll get get Old friend. Becca Loo says, not horror or suspense, but showing the brutality and reality of war, the beach landing scene and saving private Ryan. Of course, of course I agree, Noel, Yeah,

there are many kinds of terrifying. Absolutely, ye. Shannon Marine Naggy says, Emily Blunt's birth scene in a quiet place was so tense. Was white knuckling in my seat. She got a lot of up likes for that. Yeah, that was a tough that was that was brutal, especially if you've imagine if you've been through childbirth. And someone else

commented Megan Olney when she stepped on the nail. Yeah, man, that it was a good movie, not perfect because it required you to suspend some disbelief a little bit, but fully on board. With it. Then there's a second one that's coming out very soon. I don't know about that. We'll see it. Left it open for that. It's not like a shoehorne thing. I can appreciate that. Well. I mean it's just gonna be her and the kid, uh, I mean Kraszynski. I guess we're going into spoiler territory.

So if you haven't seen it yet, pause it for a few minutes. He's dead. Yeah, that's true. But he's directing though, I think, sure, Yeah, that's probably much more speed he can probably you know, I'm sure that he's gonna be in flashbacks guarantee. All right, pause people un paused, pausing, wouldn't have done anything? No, not really. I'm not sure how that works. He should skip thirty seconds. How does

the internetwork? How does the internetwork? Podcast? By the way, the bone Tomahaw guy did another film called Dragged Across Concrete that Casey said it was excellent, s Craig Zaler, And this looks like a kind of a brutal gang stereotype picture with Mel Gibson and leave it to Casey, Yeah, to find the hidden gym underneath the gym, for sure, I'm speaking of which, super excited about the Lighthouse. We've

seen the trailer for that. Wait, it looks amazing, looks wonderful, old friend Paul Wilder says in The Descent, when they're painting the camera with a night vision around to try and see better, one of the creatures is just standing there. Yeah. Man, the Descent was good. Thumbs up on that one creature feature. Sarah Stapleton's his Silence of the Lambs, Clarice and the basement in the dark, Buffalo Bill putting his hand right in front of her face. It's hard to beat that. Man.

I feel like that movie gets sort of taken for granted because it's such a classic. But that was some scary ship people remember, you know, Anthony Hopkins performance, But it's really the stuff with Buffalo Bill and that that last scene where she's like in his house, that is that is so taught and just stressful as hell. It's so good in cross cutting. The editing of that movie

just off the charts and all. It's very good. Jonathan Demi master let me see here, Jodi Sells Queen says in seven, when what the detective thinks is a body wretches and coughs. Yeah, remember they think that body is dead. How was the sloth guy? I think so it was all shot up with drugs and atrophied and like crazy. Uh you know, like he was basically rotting on his bed because they had like it was you know, those little air fresheners, the Christmas tree air fresheners hanging from

the ceiling. Right. I'm gonna read this because it's funny to me. If you're not into politics, then don't listen. But Mel Golightly says, it's not a movie scene, but that commercial with Donald Trump eating a pizza starting from the crust, it's like watching a monster making an abomination. It's so wrong on many levels, Donald Trump himself and food crime altogether. Was it stuff crust though, because that's okay,

the stuff crust. You can eat it from the crust first, know what commercial wisdoms I don't know about this, blunt you out of this room. You know, like stuff crust, Well, ay, stuff crust is stupid, but be no, you still don't eat it backwards. But that was the whole. That was the gimmick. Man, that was come on and you're falling for that. A new way to eat pizza. I'm at sorry you have my keys. I probably do. I probably do.

Old friend Don Morris is the original Poulter. Guys, when that fucking clown doll pops up by Robbie drags him under the bed, that's the only moment people remember from the movie. That's not sure, there's a lot of good moments, but that's a pretty crucial jump jump scare type moment. Yeah, that's a classic don't go into the lightning. I watched it with Eat and my kid, and uh so, the first time I've ever said her name on the show. Her name is eden Um. She liked it, did not

find it particularly scary. And you know, we watched the other night, we watched Child's Play, the original. So you're getting into this stuff with her. Now, Well it is rated R, but she knows all these words and like she just knows that it's not okay to say it. Like, I'm not worried about that. And I realized that Child's Play is only rated R because of bad language. The Gore quote unquote that's in it. It would be on ABC today like it's it's and it's comical and the

little kid way creepier than the doll. He keeps being like, Chucky, I love you, I like I don't see any of those. It's Brad Durroth though, who plays this the Killer. He's alive as a human. In the first scene, he's running from the cops and he does this witchy incantation that causes the toy store to explode, and it's Chris Surrandon.

Chris Surrandon plays the cop who's chasing him, and he yeah, he had this witch doctor friend who taught him this incantation, and he transmographies his body into Chucky um and it's really bad, like painted on film. Lightning bolt comes through the ceiling and then it explodes and all the dolls go everywhere. It's a great and then he becomes He becomes Chucky and and ends up in the hands of a homeless guy who sells it to a down on her luck mom, you know, who's trying to make ends

meet at the department store. It's her kid's birthday and she can't afford the big the good guy doll, which is the Chucky doll, and so she buys it off this homeless guy and it turns out it's the one with his name is like Charles Earl Ray or something like that, or that's the killer's name, James earl Ray. Well, no, it's it's no, it is something Earl Ray sort of God, it is. It definitely is. But yeah, and then as Brad brad Derroth is the voice from then on. It's

hilarious movie. I gotta see it, man, so funny. By the way, speaking of cursing, my daughter, the other day, something happened that she didn't like and she went, oh damns and I said, oh damns. Yeah, and I said, you know what that means? And she was like, yeah, you say that one something. I mean, she used it correctly.

She she explained it correctly exactly. I was like, well, you're right, I said, but let's not say that word at school or in front of your grand grand Yes, I'm gonna have to talk with her at some point that I don't care. I don't care. To me, it's just dumb. I agree. I've never thought that cursing was

a big deal for me. It's just kind of an attitude thing, like I don't want my ten year old, you know, f it up a storm because it's just to me, it's just sort of like you use it as you know, pepper it in for fun, but definitely don't. I don't want it to be like a show off thing. I feel like that's how kids do I feel like that's how kids do it. You know what I mean? And is it wrong that I really don't care? No,

it's not wrong for me. It's just as a slippery slope, because if you don't care at home, very easily, that can slide. That's what I'm saying. That's the problem. Now some other parents gonna be mad at me because she's going to teach kids at school and it's it's a very slippery slop. But I don't And a lot of parents are obnoxious prudes, and you don't want to catch their round because it will happen. Mm hmmm. Old friend David Mills seen from training day. They're about to blow

Ethan Hawk's head off. It's so intense and scary. Al right, I like that there's some non horror in here. Steven Oles, that's your friend, right, Ules, Ules, And we say that every time. True, he is my friend. The girls in the Shining relentless and creepy in a very specific way. It's true. They keep popping up right. Uh, yeah, I mean they're they're in the movie a little bit, a couple of times enough. What do you think about Dr Sleep? How are you feeling about that? I don't know. I

mean i'll see it. Did you see the trailer? Though? They cross cut and use a lot of footage from the old movie. I mean it looks cool. Um, it's got that that Wendy Carlos score. I won't watch, Carlo, I won't see that in the theater. Carlos. Really you won't see it in the theater? Why not not a time? Well, that's fair, but it does look like it'd be. They're much more. Uh, there are quite a few other movies I'd rather see in the theater. That's a good point.

I mean that. Yeah, you gotta pick and choose. Gotta do Joker, you gotta do Lighthouse out in Star Wars. Uh, And there's a few more so so the Doctor Sleep is gonna have to wait for me. Gail Kons her old friend that danger Oven. I gotta ask her why the hell she did that? Wait? What Gail Kunts one of our old pals. Uh And in real life, Uh, someone I've gotten to know, and her and her husband and they're both great. She she at some point changed her Facebook profile to a middle name of danger Oven

and I don't know what that means. There must be a story there, I know, But come on, Koontz, let us know. Make us part of the joke. She says. The scene and Exorcist three. I'm not gonna say which one, but I think anyone who has seen the movie knows what I'm talking about. Exorcist three, That's what she says. Which one is that she had grown in that one or she already grown by two? I believe right the heretic. I think that I didn't see the sequels. I saw

one of them. There's one where she's like walking on a roof and she's like in a trance kind of and almost jumps off the roof. And I do remember the name of the demon is Zuzu. I don't think she was even in Exorcist she I don't think she wasn't. At least she was into she was like it was Brad Dorriff of course, and George she's Scott, Yeah, this is uh, this is different. This is the Gemini killer who was executed. It comes back or something interesting that

they're just banking on the Exorcist. It must be. Yeah, but I'm gonna check it out of the danger Oven recommends it older and Barry King Raptors in the Kitchen Jurassic Park just so well done and it holds up. Man. The c g I does not look that dated. No, it's pretty Good've watched it recently and I was shocked at how it looks pretty damn. Everything looks very because they do a nice mix of c g I and practicals, and honestly, the practicals look faker than the c g I. Yeah,

it's interesting. Old friend Clement Scott says the clown from the Terrifier, Oh yeah, it's a it's just a really gross, schlocky clown slasher movie. He does like it's like a torture porn kind of thing. It is. It is pretty fucked up. It's one of those movies where I wasn't gonna see through the whole thing, but I scrolled through it just to see some of the kill scenes, you know, and it gets pretty nasty. Uh, let's finish it up

here with old pal Megan Carroll. The final scene of Blair Witch the guy standing in the corner and you hear the woman scream. Yeah, that movie scared me. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I have never been one of the ones that found that as scary as everyone. I was always like that it was really that's it. He's just standing in the corner. Did you see it in the theater? Like when it came to stuff, I did, Okay, I did, all right, fair enough. I mean I get it.

I get that. It's like, you know, because part of it to me was being there with the full theater and all that stuff, for sure. But it was one of those things where I was I get that, it's subtle and then it's about what you don't see and all that. But like, and did you see the remake or the reboot recently where I think they do show the Blair Witch and it's like a weird spider monster woman creature or something like that. She had eight rows of teeth. I think so. And it didn't swarky, jerky

and crap crawls all the tropes. No, Yeah, no, it's bad. It's like that. It's it's all that stuff that was started with like those Japanese uh ghost movies that kind of came to the States, like the grudge and the ring and all that stuff. I get it. It's easy to forget too. When Blair which came out and the you know, the found footage thing was so brand new,

it was very it's been so overdone. A lot of people genuinely did think it was a thing, and I thought it was a real I didn't think that was true. But when I found the website early on before the movie, that like kind of teased it all out, and I thought that was real. They didn't have like some like kind of it was almost interactive kind of thing where I had different pieces and you could kind of like

explore it a little bit. Yeah, And I thought fully that I remember me and my buddy Scotty who's been on the show. We we found this website. We're like, what the funk is this? Man? Have you seen the Donald Trump pete tape? It's all over the internet, dude, it's a fake. It's a deep fake. But it was on CNN, and it's like, it's pretty funny. Somebody made one. It's pretty convincing looking, But do you know about the deep fake thing? Have you seen any of these videos?

And we did a whole episode. It's so interesting We're gonna do one on stuff I don't want you to know, but that's scary. If you talk about scary ship like the future of like news, you're gonna have to like have like a certified like this is original, you know footage. I don't know. All right, we're gonna move on to another social studies. Uh I went with most terrifying movie

character of all time. We're gonna keep the hits going here with Austin are Debsky, the vampire nos Faratu, still terrifying. Old friend Melikka Baccalou says, the little girl in the ring sure really really effective. And the American that's one of the rare cases. With the American, I think was way better than the Japanese. Um, we get Anton Sugar from No Country from Nick Prinzing. Not a horror movie,

but certainly terrifying. Uh no, all this is right, a pure alley old pal Rick Swain says to Laura's Umbridge in a movie called Harry Potter, Poder Powder and the Garry Pewter and the Order of the Yes the Phalanx. Yeah, Palamus Umbridge, scary. I don't remember that character. Okay, sorry, it's all right, I know, I know it's supposed to be the ex of the resident HP expert. That's right, old pal Christi Scott's fate unaway and mommy dearest, who let me watch that as a child? Is that that

no wire hangers? Yeah? Man, she was terrifying. Yeah that was. I mean, if you're a kid and you see that movie, it's really scary. I'm sure, oldest of friends, Rebecca Robe, how you doing, Rebecca, she says, the Demon and Fallen the Denzel Washington flick. Yeah, remember that movie, totally remember what the demon looked like? Though there was a spooky demon.

I think it was the kind of deal where you don't really see um well, she says, not being able to put a face too or more frightening lee every face to something. So yeah, I think that was like a shape shifting thing. Isn't it that dude from Oz that that plays the bad guy the serial killer? I don't remember. It was like a Chris something. I don't know, Damien from the Omen from Elizabeth Wolf Old pal Austin

Handler says the zena morph from Alien. I don't know if I've ever been more scared of something in a movie before. Yeah, Pennywise Michael Ormond. The drain he comes out of and the original looks like the locker room from my high school. Was the locker room in your high school made of clay? That scene does not hold up, by friends, h dude, he comes out of the ground and it looks like literally like it was made of

like Plato, like great Plato. I watched it with Eden and like when she laughed the whole way to time and that movie is scared the crap out of me when I was her age and she just is like, it doesn't hold up. Man. Kids these days I used to they're used to such a high production value. You nothing gets passed. And if she laughed, Paul Morris old pal says Tim Curry and legend is a close second to Donald Trump. And now I'm alone too. That's funny. He just tells him where the lobby is. He's actually

kind of helpful. No, what, I've never seen that movie. You haven't seen that one too. I never saw Lost to New York. I don't know why I love the original. It's good. It's one of the rare, like it doesn't feel like a cash graw. It's still a fun Christmas movie. It's all in New York. Um, it's nice. It's a good movie, all right. Jake Hale, old friend says, does the thing count? Sure? Of course absolutely, because I mean, yeah, that's another kind of terrifying. Chris Raymond uh Cisneros Jr.

Says the pink aliens from Fire in the Sky. I remember being scared to go anywhere alone at night. Keep talking about this fire in the sky. I've never seen it. It's good. You should totally see it because it's alien abduction. It's the true story. I think it's uh dB sweeny it is. I don't know what it is. Old friend in real life Lea Mitchell says, I won't even type his name because I'm so scared of him. He likes to visit teenagers on Elm Street though. Yeah, she can't

type out Freddy Krueger. That last scene with the little kids are jumping rope and slow motion and singing a little, a little song when Freddy's coming for you. And then the hand comes out of the window and pulls her through. But that, but that's like one of the worst special effects of all time. You can totally tell. It's like a dummy legs well, a lot of that movie does not hold up it. But when I was a kid, totally scare the crap out of me because we had

imaginations and all. That's also true, it didn't rely on true. C G. I t Z. You're absolutely right, absolutely right. Uh and also how dare you? Uh? Mandy Aikin says large Marge still gets me every time. That's funny. It's a good sequence. Lisa Palouzi says, Kevin Space, these character in seven. Yeah, for sure. We don't talk about Kevin Space anymore. He's dead to us. He's dead to us, great, great roles good and it's nice. He's only in it for like a little bit. Yeah, he was terrifying though,

very very good. Old pal Gretta Conning says Reagan from The Exorcist, I just can't with her face after if she gets possessed in my mind, I had, like Ronald Reagan in The Exorcist pop into my head. You know, I would have been terrifying too if Ronald What if she was possessed by Ronald Reagan, that would have been a thing. Old friend Kurt Castor says, first thought was Freddy Krueger Um. But I'm gonna have to go with leather face since Freddy Krueger. Krueger was kind of made

into a joke eventually. Yeah, it's true. Leather face is just unhinged and just gross and like everything that's evil and scary and you don't understand. I love that. Another vote for a leather face from Duffy Johnson. Top fan Nick Kelly says, Duel the semi driver, never see him, never learn why, old pal Jim Amory Rosemary's Baby, literally the damn baby. Let's do a couple of more here. Jenna Moody says the Fourth Kind ft me right up, I don't know that movie. Is that like one more

than the third kind? Uh? Well, sure, Encounters of the Fourth Kind? Yeah, there's there is a fourth kind on the scale of alien, the alien scale or whatever, there is, Mi a Djoviovic. I don't know that movie. To check that out, because I see a couple of other people have mentioned that. I'm all for being scared. Um. Robert Denim also says large Marge, Michael Money, Michael Myers hands down, Yeah, I mean, Michael Myers is one of the great terrifying

movie characters of all time. The shape I think they call him a shape and that what he's called. I only found out really recently, and I was I was confused, but I get it. He's just he is like a soulless, hulking, unstoppable force. He's not even really a person, you know. I love that. Uh let's see here. This is a

good left turn that I agree with wholeheartedly. Michael klein Heinz says Dennis Hopper as Frank Booth and Blue Velvet, so fucking good, so terrified, absolutely, like real life terrifying. You never you don't know what he's gonna do. When it's like puffing that gas. You know, he's just a completely loose cannon, you know, get out of the car. Fuck man. Such a good movie. Let's do a couple of more of these. Hannibal Lecter, no doubt that it's

from Angela Martin Cluck, great name, ms Cluck. Another vote for leather Face from Charles Ogan. Scott Lawton comes at us with candy Man. Yeah, candy Man was pretty scary, it really was. I heard Jordan Peel is going to do a new candy Man. I'm all for it, absolutely, Danny to do whatever you want. Ever, he wants totally agree. Let me see here. Nammy hartman Geheim says, Ray Finds and Red Dragon. Yeah, he was pretty scary in there, Francis dollar Hyde, and she also mentions to Laura's umbridge

from Harry Potter. All right, I don't even know this guy, really don't know this character. The woman in room two three seven, that's from old friend Caleb J. Wyatt. Oh yeah, and the shining the old lady of course, goodness me. And then a lot of boats from uh for a Pennywise Maggie Burns, the Tim currywin Mark Vilopondo, great name, says uh penny Wise. I'm telling you, guys, you're just remembering it from your childhood. It's not scary. I promise you go back and watch it. You will be shocked.

All right, we're gonna finish up here with two more because these are both very much true. Matt Hoseley says Robert blaken Lost Highway. He's only one scene. Do you remember that, did you see? He calls himself. Yes, yeah, David Lynch can really with your brain. He's one of my favorites. He's one of the best, one of my favorites. And then finally Rob Esposito, one of the all time

great scary movie characters. Annie Wilkes from Misery totes totes totes. All. Right, now we're gonna finish up real quick with a stream this because I have been watching the show Unbelievable. Have you seen it? You know? No? I don't know of it? No, no, not at all. Uh, this is yes, I'm sorry. It looks like wicking life and it's animated like the BoJack Horsemen. When what's that one called? It's called undone. It's on something. I have no idea what you're talking about. It's the

BoJack Horseman. Guy has an animated show. It's like bob Odin Crook in it and it's apparently like a existential, weird kind of psychedelic kind of thing. But please continue. Well that is not what I'm talking That would be my recommendation. Okay, Well I think you just did it. I think on Netflix the show Unbelievable. Program creator is Susannah Grant. Uh. It is an eight episode jam, I think that is all that's going to happen, and it is being called the most feminist true crime show on TV.

Starts Tony Collette and uh, I love Merrett Weaver who I love Merrett Weaver and a couple of young actors. Uh great, great actor named Danielle McDonald who was in the movie, Uh Patty Cakes. Did you see that? Isn't that the young girl who she was in Patty Cakes? She's in this movie and the mom and Patty Cakes is also in this movie. And her name is Bridget Everett.

She's great in it too. But the real star of this, um, I mean, Tony Klett and Merritt We've are great, but the true star of this is this young actress name Caitlin Dever. Boy is she good. And it's one of these things where she is so like it's a brutal story about this true true series of rapes from Siria rapists and she is the first victim. And uh so there's telling it in two different timelines, from two thousand and eight and then in two thousand eleven when these

investigators are on the case. So her two thousand eight timeline is just so you know, she's a foster kid in the system since she was a kid. So it's already depressing and uh, boys, she good. You just want to rescue jump through the TV and rescue this character. But you know, it's a true story, so you know, there's nothing like you know, they're not gonna cow tow to anyone by making something up. You just have to go with the flow of what really happened. So it's

like a mini series. It's a limited it's all finished. But it just couldn't recommend it enough. It's tough stuff. Certainly trigger warnings all over the place because it is about a serial rapist, obviously, but um, if you can get through it, it's it's really well done and very much a feminist true crime series because the detectives were

women and a lot of their staff were women. That we're working on this and the whole show really like one of the main things that drives home is the system and uh, the way rapes are investigated and how hard it is to see something through like that and to get the subpoenas and the warrants and um, and

just how fucked up the system is. It's just like it's ah, it takes place in the past, like it's two thousand eleven is the more recent time, in two thousand eight is the previous time, not that far removed. Man really really good stuff highly recommended, unbelievable on Netflix. And that's all I have, NOL. We have to record another one of these and three two one. For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.