Mini Crush #80

a big fan of that. That's what we just did because you literally we hit record and while we were still talking and you heard a little bit of that. That was that was the real ship right there, Chuck. Yeah, so quick recap. We were talking about music. I've been listening to a lot of um here's here's my Genesis deal.

I just told you love the Peter Gabriel stuff, of course, but I've been really getting into the like four albums post Peter Gabriel pre Invisible Touch, in Visible Touches when they really leaned into the eighties, Uh, you know, excess, super poppy, super poppy, square shoulder pads, suits, Steinberger races and guitar. You know what I think is really funny. Though I think Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins are artists in and in their own right. I'm more of a

Peter Gabriel guy. He was the weird one his solo records, fucking weird. You know. Collins was way more into the commercial stuff. But I swear to god man, after Peter Gabriels that left the band, Phil Collins is doing his best Peter Gabriel impression. Singing wise, they sound like identical. It's a little weird. I do. Oh see, I don't see it. I do early on, especially early on. That's just my my my opinion. But uh and I just dropped that. I've been listening to a lot of punk

music because we did at wad On punk. Never gotten into it, and now it turns out I'm really into it. Is that why your hair is all spiky to day? My hair's always spiky. But I am getting into punk, rocky music at the age of forty eight the first time. Never too late. It's never too late. You want to break some ship and you start riot. No man, I'm one of those good punks, good chill punk. What what

are some some wrecks for the people at home. Well, I've been listening to the Misfits, the Damned, the Circle Jerks, the Saints out of Australia, and I feel like there was one more there was. I always listened to the Remans, but I listened to more Remons yesterday. Yeah, and we

were staying off air. How those are the ones that maybe elevated the form a little bit, like where there's a little more melody, a little more interesting compositions, whereas some of the more hardcore thrashy punk bands are not really your bag, not my bag. That Sistoles record is great, Oh agreed. You know, I think they kind of straddle that that line as well, while sort of leaning more towards the thrashy snotty side. But the still they're really

clever songs, clever lyrics, really cool arrangements. I agree. Good stuff. We were also talking about podcast movement, which for you, you know, some of you might know about it, but people outside the industry that is sort of has been. Uh we did itself out as the best conference in the industry. I went once in Orange County, uh in in in California several years ago and this year, that one right, right, Yeah, this year it's in Orlando, that's right. Um,

and we're both going uh huh, and this will come out. Um, I think we will have already been. So it was terrible everyone, there's no way of knowing. Okay, hey, I'm mainly looking forward to because all of the hs W crew. I'm not sure about you, Chuck, if that don't count you in that bunch. But we're staying at the the Orlando Hilton and it has a lazy river. Oh you're not staying at the place where the thing is. It

was sold out that that place was sold out. Everyone was like, we're staying at the Orlando Hilton because it has a lazy river. Any Reese who does savor and stuff, I ever told you that she's a maximizer, so she knows what's up. And she was like, lazy river Hilton or Orlando Hilton, gotta go so mad, Well, maybe I can come over and dude, I'm there for eighteen hours and I've got like four things scheduled pretty much going and hitting, hitting it running. Although Tuesday night I get in,

uh and I'd love to get a drink. Get in Tuesday as well. Okay, great, perfect sealed science, heal delivered everybody. I'm yours for a drink on Tuesday anyway, all right, no, buddy, we're gonna start it off with the Pole Truth. We haven't done some poles in a while. We're gonna pull it up with a Tarantino a dish because he is on everyone's mind right now. Uh. We are going to crush that movie out, which will have already come out.

So I hope you guys enjoyed that episode. Enjoy looking forward to recording that to alright, No, and I want your your answers here too, uh, Pole Truth, hold on my phone drinking here? You should hear you like that? Guys. It's my ring. That's very clever. That's my voice. How do you make that happen? That's and I got Emily because I wanted her to have her own ring tone to yell baby at me baby, and so when she calls, it's just her screaming. And people are always too adorable.

I can't handle. That's kind of obnoxious. Actually, like it all right? Here? Here we go here, better movie Jackie Brown or reservoir Dogs. Mm hmm, yeah, I mean I'm gonna say reservard Dogs Jackie Brown kicks at Yeah, it got a resero dogs one in a landslide fifty seven, but a hundred and fifty seven people that like Jackie Brown better. That's respectable. Jackie Brown is just such a classic movie. It's just the way it feels so intentional and it's less stylized, I think, you know, and I

like that about it. It's it's a it's a nice it's a good movie. So I would vote for rest War Dogs. I guess it was probably not a fair way to kick off the polls. It's okay, but I'm sorry, all right. The next one no better screenplay. This is tough pulp fiction or true romance. One of one of the best scripts to me ever is True Romance. So this is a tough one. Yeah, I mean I would say pulp fiction. How can you? I mean, I put

it against the biggest heavyweight for a reason. I mean, I I like True Romance, but I don't really remember much about it, like a lot a lot about it. I remember that Gary Oldman has fake gold teeth and in a in a dready wig. Yeah that happens, right. You've got everything here from Adi La Joe to Damned if I know, that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. I mean that was a big movie for us. Maybe it's slanted in my mind. It fits on the couch with us we out of the honey Bear because we watched

True Romance forty times in college. I need to revisit it, all right. Pulp Fiction one, one oh seven. I'm glad a hundred and seven people out there appreciate the brilliance of that script. Totally, That's what I would say. And that was also like he was this. He was a screenwriter for that and not the director. Correct. Yeah, the great great late grade r I P. Tony Scott. Tony so sad about that, alright, Pull truth, everyone, Pull truth.

Kills Bills should have been one movie, better as two movies. Well, he's talking about making a third movie, of course he is. And he's also like, and he's saying he only wants to make ten movies. He's counting Kill Bill as one movie. He's getting the sort of a Mulligan or not Mulligan, but a Mulligan. I think it's it's in our best interest as fans. But he didn't release it. That's my whole point. That's so Tarantino. I love him and he

bugs me. So you want to watch five hour movie, I want to watch a tight three hour movie from that four and a half hours of material. I liked both of those movies very much. That did too. I just remember thinking, man, that would have made a tight three hour movie. All right, most people like it as two films. All you're winning. It's not a competition, check,

it's just the polls. It's just the pole truth. My daughter said that the other day when Emily and I usually, you know, let her win in a stupid like race you to the door, because we're good parents. But the other day we both just dug in and one and she went, it's not a competition, Oh my gosh, amazing. All right, the poll truth, death Proof awesome. Loved it? Or give me a real movie, Give me a real movie. A lot of people get mad, but can say it's

very much a real movie. But I remember feeling a little cheated and being like, this was a fun exercise in homage to a certain genre. But come on, not much beyond that. He's counting that as part of his uvra. Well he shouldn't think so either. Yeah, people are mad right now. Who loved that movie? I get it, and they won out, but I will say no, this is pretty close. Two people said awesome, loved it. A hundred and eighty six said, give me a real movie. It's

pretty close. Curious about some of these comments here. Ar Old pal ethany Evan says, I love Quentin a bit nostalgic, perhaps, but death Proof just ain't my speed. Aaron Crabtree s his death Proof is so badass. That climactic car chase is an absolute knockout and great soundtrack. For sure. It had some great stuff. It was a great sequence. It wasn't like a bailout when he like forces the bailout

or whatever, and um, does somebody get their legs? I don't remember even it's made such little impression on me. I saw it twice because I saw it was part of that whole grindhouse thing with Planet. I think that was very good. Either it was whatever, the whole thing. I remember the time. I thought it was really fun. I think I saw it in the theater twice, but I have not given it much of a second thought since I thought it was cool that they did it.

They did this cool grindhouse thing and like, I get it. I like the trailers, the little trailers in between. We're super fun. Yeah, it's all like, I'm glad they do that stuff. It's cool that someone's out there doing that stuff. But I just didn't think like moviewise. I just a neat story man, all right, pull truth pulp fiction clearly his best or not his best, certainly the high water

mark for him. I mean that sort of established all of his tricks, you know, like it took what he started in Reservoir Dogs and just pumped it up, you know, to the next level. And that was sort of the tone that he set where he either had to like double down on that stylistically or kind of back away from it, like with a Jackie Brown. And he doubled out. Sometimes he backed away like with Jackie Brown. I would argue that that's much more of like a laid back

kind of like simpler picture, you know. Yeah, yeah, for sure it was. I mean most of his movies or homages to his forebearers, cinematic forebearers, and I can't wait to tuck about the new one. I'm I'm holding everything back because THENL plug that hole. Uh four thirty six said clearly his best three nineteen said not his best, so a lot closer than I thought. Interesting. Yeah, I wonder what they I mean. I think that's the thing too, because he has, you know, pretty pretty big catalog of films,

but not like a massive catalog of films. So it's like there's enough to see some shufflings, you know, of like what your favorites. Yeah. Yeah, our old pal, Gayl Kuntz said, inglorious Bastard's but pulp fiction is second. Alex Glasnovitch or old pal, says Jackie Brown is leagues above any other Tarantino film. He's a big Jackie Brown fan. It's a great flick. Interesting. Christian Benchi says, hate full At is a very close second for me, and some people pooh poo hateful a pretty hard I am one

of them. Yeah, I just he said to me it's a Western version of the thing, And now I'm kind of like thinking about that, and he may be right, but I liked the thing and I didn't love eight Late. Yeah. Tape Late though, is like he did an interesting thing where he something that I always appreciate an artists too, where he limited himself to a space and yet insisted on shooting in this massively wide format, which I thought

was really interesting. It looked amazing. It looked amazing, But like he used that to great effect by making this claustrophobic space kind of you really inhabited it with the characters, you know what did have that like walls are closing in effect, especially because it was nineteen hours long. All right, most badass woman the Bride or Jackie Brown. The Bride is badass, but pitting her against Pam Greer, you know, the difference is what the Bride is like a cartoon

character and Jackie Brown is like a real ass woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I would say Jackie Brown wins. Jackie Brown does not win. The Bride wins, and I think badass, you know, because she fights and Jackie Brown is like, you know, woman surviving. That's what I'm saying that, Like I think it's it's it's I agree, and I r l. Jackie Brown is clearly a bigger badness. Yeah. She got a hundred and sixteen votes to three eight for the Bride. All right, poll truth, Noel, Once upon a time in Hollywood,

this is gonna tip your hat. At least I'm not gonna answer, okay, a new masterpiece. We weren't already heard the Yeah, but I don't want to know, don't answer. Once upon a time in Hollywood, A new masterpiece good not great? And you know I got these binary choices. People are so mad. I bet for everyone listening that's upset. That's the only way that an admin can do a poll is with two two options. This is very close. A hundred and seventy five said a new masterpiece. One

eight said good not great. The crushers have spoken interesting. Hope, you're just like you can say words interesting. All right, you can't read my mom poll truth Tarantino the director, one of the best ever or overall overrated? A lot of people commented both. Three forty one says one of the best. Every six say overall overrated. This this is

really interesting. This is giving us a pretty clear picture of the movie crushers and how they feel about I think your binary choices are fine because they are you know, they're extremes. But then we see where people fall on that spectrum. Yeah, but people want to be in the middle of You don't get to be on the middle for these polls. You don't all right, Tarantino the writer distinction Noel one of the best ever or overall overrated three nineteen say one of the best ever. A hundred

sixty five say overall overrated. Interesting and he's pretty great overrated, but pop culture wins me over nine out of tin, so I also love him. That's from David Massey. Matt McCullough. Great at dialogue, but I think there are better screenwriters like Paul Thomas Anderson and Aaronofski. I can agree with that. And the good charl pal for both of these said both so one of the best but also overrated. I

guess that's possible, huh. It absolutely, especially with Tarantino, because there's so much hyperbole when it comes to praising a guy like that, you know, and I agree that Paul Thomas Anderson his stories are more subtle. Therefore, you could argue that he's better. He's got a lighter touch, whereas, um, you know, Tarantino sort of uses like a fucking sledgehammer. Yeah, he's Tarantino. Like Tarantina, He's gonna domastic, he's gonna que tee it up exactly, which I respect. I respect it too.

It's his it's his thing. Alright, final one, no poul truth. Movie length too long and indulgent or let the man do his thing? Because you know that's always my gripe. It depends on how if the movie is any good. A hundred and sixty eight people think this, movies are too long and indulgent. In four hundred and sixty say let the man do his thing. They have gotten longer over time, haven't they? Like pulp fiction? Wasn't three hours and that? I feel like it was a tight two

and change two and two and a half. I'm I'm curious. Let me look that up here. No, keep everyone entertained for god, say so here's the thing that came up? Oh actually, geez. Yeah. For some reason I thought it was like a two twenty. Interesting that is, But that is pretty long. Dogs was one forty? Yeah, okay, Jackie Brown was too forty. He's always got a lot of stories, got a lot of story and then a lot of stuff in addition, did the great story? I stand corrected?

All right, me too. I wonder what his longest is Inglorious Bastard's I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I mean, Once upon a Time was quite quite lengthy. I think that was too like to fifty. Yeah, but that's what pulp fiction was apparently. Yeah, I mean that maybe that's his wheelhouse. I had no idea that pulp fiction was almost three hours. Why it really moves, it really does. That's the one that did not feel baggy to me. Not about all the stuff, not at all.

And glorious dead airin ol hey man, listen. So I was sitting at the question mar table we have even you know what, you gotta let me finish the story

if you want me to. Well, all I wanted to say is that, um, Chuck walks up and I start having a conversation, and every time he shows me and my daughter telling his story, he says he says, save it for the save it for the podcast Brown, And I'm like, well but what I'm like, okay, all right, Chuck, that was pretty funny because you said, yeah, because we can't talk like real people, talk like real people off Mike and I'm save that too. Well, here we are

inglorious bastards and two thirty three. Oh my goodness. So pulp fiction is on the longer end of his uh, certainly his his his his films. That's interesting all right, let's move on from that, and let's move on to let's move on to a social studies and all social movie. I asked the crushers, what's your favorite animal movie? And what I mean by that is like the animal has to either be a main character or very very heavily feature. Does the Revenant count? Ye? See, no bear was featured?

Actually all right, sure the Revenant lesnal? What about Midsomer? Does that count? The bear? Gosh, I'm all about these bear bear appearances. So like a like Homeward Bound, what you know, whatever, you got your turners and hooges, you turns whoes? I got Dog's Life or Marley and Me. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a talking animal. Black stallion, uh you know, got it? Black beauty? Well there's two, are the real black beauty and a black Stalliar?

Are there? I didn't know that? All right, we're gonna start off with Shannon Marie. You think about your answer, Uh, no goal, no, no goal with an L naugal yeah, and a U g l E and a nogle yeah nogle like nautical right, and a you would be not probably Like this is the conversation I've heard my entire life. Probably all right, She posted the Emperor's New Groove. I bet there will be some animated in here, Old pal in top Van Carolin Gaston says Homeward Bound Kevin Hurbond's

his Jaws. Okay, that's a great point. That's my favorite movie, so I guess that's mine. I guess they counts, even though they don't really show the Shark Fairy much. Our old buddy Jimmy mallory'ss Turner and who bo Hale says the animated Robin Hood. Yeah, yeah, that was certainly better than Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. Elissa Galmish says, this Jurassic Park count for sure. Animals, right, huh do you know? Or they weird lizard people? They're other animals. Okay, they're

they're they're theoretical animal. I thought they might have been lizard humans probably. Turn turns out they probably did looked like that. They probably had feathers in real life, that's right, So that would have been less terrifying. I think if these creepy gangli bird creatures, actually that would have been my hell if they had feathers, because you know, I'm antibird you know that's about me, right, Are you afraid

of bird? Afraid of birds? Wow? My friends? Uh, stepdad is afraid of birds, and I always thought that was interesting. So that what's the phobia called? You know, probably ornith a phobia. Okay, wow, did you ever have a bird incident? Yeah? I think so. It's it's like very far in my past. No, childhood. When I was a little kid, my grandpa would take me to the beach and throw bread crumbs and the seagulls would swarm, and from a little child's perspective, I

think that probably was terrifying. Yeah, wow, thanks gramps. Yeah, I am not like so scared of birds that I won't like look at them or they freaked me out. But if one comes at me and walk the other way, that's for sure. What about those New York City pigeons, they don't like them, dude, don't like them. They will strut up to your ass and they they'll swarm as well. Yeah. Alright, good to know, NOL. That explains a lot. Actually doesn't

explain anything. All right, let's go on. That was really interesting. Carl Gaffney says, Babe, good movie's true. Maria Maurice says a chicken run. Ashley White says the last unicorn. Sure, that's an animal, make believe, but why not truly just a horse with a little hat. Jason rees rise top fand in Old Palace is the last unicorn as well? Geez, what is going on with that? Do you kind of unicorn as an animal? Yeah? Man, alright, mythical animal? Sure, say it had to be a real animal. I guess

you're right. Bonnie Blondo boy, that's a great name, like Blonnie Bondo. Homeward Bound. Another vote for Homeward Bound. Milo and otis from Eric Keith. I haven't heard of this movie Toothless, Oh, How to Train Your Dragons. Monique Cassie says that, but those movies good. They people really enjoy them. I have not seen them, but I've heard nothing but good things from people whose opinions I value. Gotcha. Rob Dickinson says Utopia, there's a lot of animal things in here,

are animated things. Not exactly what I was going for, but I get it. I didn't specify aunt man. Come on, there's an aunt in that he rides the ant. It's got his his aunt pal that he rides around. Doesn't have a name. It's like one was it Auntie his main aunt? You're my main aunt. All right, and let's finish up here with William Angus or alpal from from way back goes with Hooch from Turner and Whoch. How long have we been going now? Two or five oh six?

So seven three three, that number keeps going super fast, like you all right, We're gonna finish up then with the return of Trope Time. We haven't done trope Time in a long time because I think we burned it out early on so had no other material. But we're getting back in our It's been like many many many weeks, I think, So we're gonna bring it back, Nold, dust it off. We're gonna start off with David Mills, one of our old pals, also my cousin's name. He says.

I always love the dramatic pause, possibly accompanied with taking off the eyeglasses, looking at the distance and uttering my god. Yeah, that's a good thing for scientist characters to do, right, I gotta have those glasses exactly because that means business. You take them all the way off and then you kind of wipe your brow or sort of like I'm doing what you pinch your temples? You know, my god,

what have they done? Yeah, there's uh. The other big move that's just for sure trope is the the turn in the chair around backwards when you got to do some straight talking, you know, like the teacher. Listen, it's a big kid. Put that chair around. Sleeves, roll up. This is not teacher time. This is alan all right. Tim Campbell says, look a distraction. The big goon will always fall for the look over there. That's true. That's an old bit that I'm surprised so many movie characters

fall for. You gotta read the one from my my buddy Steven Yules. It's in there. I don't know if you're playing on getting to it, but do you know what it is? Yeah? It was about we'll just go ahead and the car head phrase. Um yeah. So it's like you, someone falls to their knees, like accidentally trips in traffic and then they look up and immediately see the headlights accompanied by the horns. There's always a car, right,

there's always a car right there. Somebody should take the pits out of that one, for sure and just angle it like where you know it's coming. And the guy looks up and it's just like you hear crickets or something, or there's like a baby carriage or something like that. Yeah, but Stephen is an old pal from my hometown of Augusta, Georgia. Was a newspaper writer when I was younger and in bands, and he was always very kind to my bands in

the music scene and Augusta really really really sweet guy. Hi, Stephen, that's very very nice. You listen to the show cool he's in the crushers? Is he really think he wrote that thing? I love that Vanessa Lopez part of the V squad. The nessa squad. I like nessa squad when people have a gun point edit someone, but no one takes them seriously until they pull the hammer back to indicate that they really mean business. Yeah, that is funny. It's like you got a gun in my face. What

are you gonna do with that? Click? Oh ship, Uh, let me see here. Rick Swain says, walkie talkies working perfectly fine all movie long until the climax of the film. That's right when that static comes in. Oh, you hear like bits and pieces just enough of what they're saying, right, just enough for the audience to know that you're missing something really fucking important. Get done, Dike, exactly. Dinosaurs that's it, Uh, Matthew Flint says, the accidental discovery of the master Plan. Yeah,

for sure, he said. Good example, Independence Day, David, you're gonna catch a cold. Dad, you're a genius. Yeah, I remember being I didn't like Independence Day. I had so many problems with that. Mean, I was very young when it came out. I was just stupid fun for me. Um, there's this movie on Netflix that I would love to crush with you sometimes maybe not, it's just too stupid. It's just like a lifetime kind of like um thriller

style movie, And basically it's about this woman. It's called Secret Obsession, and the whole idea uh spoilers, I guess if you haven't seen The Secret Obsession. But this woman is in an accident and ends up in the hospital with where she's lost her memory and there's a man who claims to be her husband, but it turns out it's not really her husband. But the funny part is his whole scheme is banking on the fact that she lost her memory, which like, when does that ever happen?

And like no one could have predicted that, and she discovers his master plan by noticing that all of the photos in quote unquote their home have been badly photoshops. She notices that there's a reflection of the back of his head where his hair is difference photoshop fail is what reveals his master plan. And then it all goes downhill. It's a really fun, bad, schlocky piece of ship. Yeah, those um man, when they when it's such a tenuous or you know, just convenient thing, it's always like that.

Our old buddy Adam Pellettier says, Chinese food take out when a family is somehow down on their luck or in disarray. Absolutely, and it's always eating out of the takeout containers. That's how that works. It's very easy. Uh. And I think prop trucks keep Chinese food takeout stuff just on the truck because you know, what are you gonna do? Well, they're eating Chinese food. I think that's

one of those things too. Are Maybe you're right, maybe it is a product of like actual availability or convenience of production type of stuff, or maybe it's also just like we're keeping that tradition alive. You know, we're all

we're just kind of we're slumming it. You know, we're home, we're eating the we're eating out of the containers were Beau is usually during a part where people are sad or something's happen people, they're like there for each other and kind of like backing each other up, and it's like, you know what, we don't need any fancy food. We can just have to take us right, who've got orange chicken?

We both simultaneously, and we did our old friend Melinda Bacca when the really bad guy drags out the torture of or killing of the good guy, of course, allowing ample time to escape or to be rescued. Yeah, and she said they actually made fun of this one in Austin Powers for sure. All right, drink everyone, let's go with Oh here it is your friend Steven Ules. Ules Ules, I've made that mistake before as well. She has another one. Are you just found the one that I met? I

found the one? Did I mainly something that I do a justice? You did a justice. Someone falls in the street. Here's a hornblearing looks up before well, he says, no one he indicated to though no one ever gets hit by that car. Right, it's and it's always a near mess. Yeah, And he says the same applies to trains. Very true. All right, we'll finish up with Jennifer Sawyer. She says, every dying person in a bed reaches out and grabs an arm and says, just make me this promise, And

it's usually promise you'll look out for blank. Promise you look out for my daughter. Yeah, make sure she gets a good education. Don't let her to grow up a Republican. That should be in a movie sugar intake. She has a tendency to get dehydrated. Oh man, all right, I guess we're done old. I think so. We definitely were canceled. It's goodbye, everybody. For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.