Mini Crush #117: The Return of Hodgman Part II

lockdown to reevaluate all of my friendships. Then in the herd, Yeah, No, everybody's my friend. Everybody's my friend. That is true. So John, we have a few segments I'd like to get to, and we are on somewhat of a limited schedule, so I'm gonna go ahead and dive in. So let's get the plugs in. First. I host the Judge John Hohman Podcast at Maximum fund dot Org every Wednesday a new episode.

We're closing out are great great podcast mini series ipodious about the famous nine BBC mini series I Claudius and check me out on Instagram dot com slash John Hodgman if you want to see when I go live every weekday to interview people's cats and dogs on a little daytime talk show I call Get your Pets, Chuck. What are you up to these days? Posting this? Let's go. I need to get on Instagram so I can get on Get your Pets. You absolutely do, get on it today.

I'll be doing it. I'll be doing it from four to six pm today. He's during time I've been resistant to get on inst Insta. I should do. Just do it, just creating a just create an account and lurk. That's all, you know, I don't have to post stuff. Well that's true, all right, John. So what I did was I have, uh, put some post up on the old movie Crush page and we'll get a little talkback going, and then you and I can just comment on what the lovely crushers

have to say about these three things. Okay, first thing up is a little question, what objectively good movie generally speaking, regarded as a great movie do you actually think is a bad movie? Oh? And everyone else is wrong? So you can think about that unless you've got one with a bullet. And I'll read through a few of these, old friend, Don Morris, It's hard for me, a person who hopes to come out of this quarantine and work in movies and television again. To to poop on a movie, well,

you don't have to, but I'm trying. There is something, there's something that's right on the tip of my tongue. You read, read some more, and then I'll refine my thoughts on this. Old friend. Don Morris is Forrest Gump, one of the most beloved movies of all time, and I have hated it since the minute I saw it in the theaters. So schlocky, I would. I would say that that is a movie that I think cinematically in

terms of a filmmaking prowess, likely holds up. But it took me a second to understand that what this movie is alive the perfect one? Now? Uh that what this? That this movie is right wing propaganda, Like I didn't understand that at first. Yeah, but you know it's been a revisionist not necessarily a revisionist, but that has come out more in recent years. I feel like it was discussed at the time, or at least within within I

remember reading about it at the time. I'm going, oh, right, like he he is the pure of heart, midwestern, not too smart person who like shows up all of the coastal elites and especially those dirty hippies. Um, but yeah, I've not. I've not felt the need to rewatch that movie since. Alright, uh, let me read a few more. The controversial one for you. I got a controversial one for you. Check. Hang on to that. But that in

your pocket for a minute. Because Brian Buckley says, I know it'll take some hell for this, but Blade Runner, while visually stunning, is an absolute snorefest to me. So Brian's wrong. Well I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong about that, But I mean, but he he has an opportunity to say that because Blade Runner is a movie that has never been finished. You know, there's so many different versions and different directors cuts of it out there,

there is room to maneuver like I don't know. I don't think that there is a true vision of that movie that's that can be considered complete at this point. But it's spectacular. I love and I don't hate the one with the voiceover narration. I like them all. I didn't mind that shout out to One of our listeners has a Blade Runner podcast called Shoulder of Orion's shout out to them. I love that it's great. Old Blade Runner podcasts could not watch Blade Runner. Oh I thought

it was great. You didn't like it gorgeous, But I mean I think that. I mean that that was a literal snore fest for me in that I can only start movies at about nine o'clock now if I'm going to watch a serious movie. Now now that my son is a little older, we can watch stuff together, you know. And it's this bad part of middle age where it's like, if I start a movie at ninety, I'm asleep by ten fifteen. I got I feel, and particularly Blade Runner, which is so dream like to begin with, or Blade

Runner or whatever. Yeah, I was. It took me, I think nine sittings to finally finish it, and I still don't not that's a little bit of exageration, but more than three just kind of work through it finally and see the end. And plus it a Jared Leto in it. And I don't mind saying I don't mind burning that bridge, you know, like that guy. Oh no, I don't like that. Jordan Catalano. He's been a bad kid since the beginning, that's right, bad kids, old pal are Austin are Debski

says Baby Driver. There were a lot of dumb decisions when it came to the writing. Oh, just because you were in a car accident as a child that gave you super driving powers. Sorry, Chuck, because Austin knows I love this movie. I loved that movie a lot when I saw it. Uh, and were you allowed to see it again? It's got Spacey in it? Yeah you can see. Yeah. I loved John Hammond that movie. I loved. That's you know, we love heist movies. You and I both love heist movies.

And that's some great that's some great boosting that those that they were doing in that and the driving sequences are amazing. John Hammon, I love a love letter to Subaru. So you know, a son of New England can't hate Spaby Driver. Next. Uh, speaking of Spacey, Samantha h l s as American Beauty, let me count the ways I hated this movie. It's gross, portrayaled and older man lusting for a teenage girl, makes caricatures of all the female characters,

completely self obsessed with its own pompousness. I don't think that movie has aged well, No, I have zero. I remember it coming out and my wife being really into it. I was at the time, and I saw it and I thought it was good. But I have I have zero interest in revisiting that when it feels very much of a particular time. Yeah, totally, And I trust everything that that person has to say about their their read

of it. I agree. Uh. Dan Maynard, one of our old pal says, Napoleon Dynamite, maybe I just didn't get the humor, but god, that movie was awful. Uh No, you just didn't get the humor. I didn't like Napoleon Dynamite. I'm not even sure if I saw it all the way through. Um, it's a I liked it. I liked their sensibility, you know, and I feel like, um, that's a brother and sister team out of Utah or Northern I have to look it up now. Oh what Napoleon Dynamite.

The filmmakers. Yeah, I thought it was just the one guy. Was it a team? Jared Has is the director, but I know his his wife, Jerusha Has basically you know, she's the co writer and probably probably co director and costume designer. I interviewed her for The New York Times magazine about how to dress Napoleon Dynamite and she's like just getting you know, go to a thrift store and get moon boots. I you know, and I really enjoyed

talking I really enjoyed talking to her. Um. So maybe a little bit of that peering behind the scenes affected my my feelings towards it. But I mean that dance sequences cinema history, and they had such a they had such a striking new i'man look and uh, and you know, they went on to make Nacho Libre, which was very much in the same vain, and then Gentlemen Broncos, which was their really weird two thousand nine movie that I

auditioned for but did not get the part. But didn't mind, um because because it was such a beautifully weird movie and I loved it. I'm glad it existed. But after that, I don't I don't know what they've been up to lately. I haven't seen Gentleman Broncos yet. I've heard it's um it's some people say it's one of the worst movies ever made. But comedian ARJ Barker was going to be on movie Crush and he said that is his favorite movie.

And he said, trust me, just watch it. It's great. Yeah, I mean it's all it's it's all of the weirdest, the weirdest stuff of Napoleon Dynamite distilled to its ultimate weirdness. Do you know what I mean? All the weird affectation and quirkiness. It's it's almost pure quirk. And I can understand why people uh D n D do not dig, do not dig? All right, this one is gonna get you going. Lisa m to share. One of our old friends in top fans says iron Man, it's so boring.

I don't care that it sets up the other movies. You can easily watch them without this context. I've never been an iron Man fan. I'm Team Cap all the way. Always have been, uh liked an appreciated iron Man, but always and I love Robert Downey Jr. And his performances spectacular. But it is to me that was always a setting up, setting up the world. Yeah, I agreed, this one speaks to me. Alfie Brady, I'm kind of with you here, says Inception is just not good. Having a complex narrative

does not necessarily make a good film. I did not love Inception. I just thought it was okay. I'm a Christopher Nolan fan. I am too, but I am not. This is this is a bridge that I I hate to burn. Don't burn it, don't do it. That match out all right, I won't burn it. He can offline, you can tell me, because I'm sure Christopher Nolan is listening right now anyway. No, no, I'm not going to burn a bridge with Christopher Nolan. There's no burn. There's no bridge to burn. I love I love his work,

I love his ambition. Um, I found that to just be a mind f Yeah, you can say that. I did not that. I was not into Okay, you can say mind friend on the show. It was a mind friend er. And and it felt like a pure mind friend er, do you know what I mean? Like whereas you get like a Looper going, that's a mind friend er that I like Looper that had a human heart. I felt like. But I will say about this the Prestige, I think terribly overlooked movie. Yeah, I love that movie.

Incredible movie. Christopher did you see I have not seen it yet. Oh wait, that wasn't No, I don't even know why. On that. I think that's Sam Mendez. I think that's the director of American Beauty. American beauty. I've

not seen Interstellar. There, I haven't. I haven't kept up with Nolan, in part because of um Inception, in part because I feel like, uh, you're you're, You're going to twisty, you know, fold up city places that I'm not interested in, particularly following Show me more Turn of the century, Turn of the twentieth century, magicians, please show me more. Uh, show me more contraptions, crushing doves spoiler. Yeah. My problem with Nolan in a couple of his movies, Inception and

then uh, what was the Space one? Interstellar? I feel he does way too much just blatant explanation of what's going on. There's always a character that's like, all right, here's what's happening everyone. Yeah, and Ann I think, you know, like I think, I think I like thinking movies, but not self important thinking movies. And you know, speaking of Looper knives Out one of my favorite movies of last year or maybe this year, right, I don't know, time

is meaningless at this point. We're all living, we're all living within dreams, within dreams. But you know, that is a contraption movie. But at its heart is this relationship between the detective and the young woman and the and the reveal at the end, which I won't spoil, of what he knew when he knew it, and what that means for their relationship. That's that gives me goose bumps right now, because it's like, Okay, this is caricature, this

is big, this is thinking, this is puzzle boxy. But there's also just this human element to it that I that I really appreciate it. Yeah, I love it. This one breaks my heart. Elizabeth Connolly Sheiler says sideways. My husband and I were forced to watch. I'm sorry. We forced ourselves to watch the whole hoping it would be better. Never did. What a waste of an evening. It's one of my favorite movies. So Paul Jamati, you can't go

wrong with Paul Jamati. It's a great, great movie. Alexander Payne is in the club for me and and Thomas Hayden Church what a great that great actor that pops up every now and the fantastic Let's do a couple. I spent I spent. I spent a few days in Omaha with real Alexander Payne. Yeah, profiled him for the New York Times magazine. Look it up. It's on. It's on the web. It is. They did find guy. They didn't pull it from the web. They didn't. They didn't

strike it from the web. They're like, uh, we need this digital paper to print other stuff. Erase this. Okay, here we go. This will will get a discussion going. Uh, Desiree Healed, says Avengers in Game. It's been a year and I'm still mad about the lazy storytelling and how the writers and directors used it to have a bit of a wank. Look how clever we are. Well, I don't understand how it can be lazy storytelling but also incredibly clever storytelling, do you know what I mean? Like

they worked. I feel like you see the if anything, you see the labor of the storytelling on screen, not none of them, you know. I mean talk talk about set. You know, you're setting up a whole world and you know a decade's worth of different narratives that you have to sew up together, never mind to finish, just like a satisfying ending to Infinity War. You know, you're you're wrapping up the the whole, this whole universe in a way.

And I think they did, and I mean, are these perfectly you know, like the Raiders are Lost Dark screenplay is a perfect machine. There is there is nothing, you know, Lawrence Kasdan created a perfectly satisfying emotional, semi literal role or coaster that has real human beings in it um and not a loose not a loose threat. It's not just the speed and the amount of action sequences. But but everything connects so satisfyingly in that movie and has

such a perfect satisfying ending. And are any of the Marvel movies exactly that? No, I mean they to certain degree can't be because you know, there are a lot of cooks in those kitchens, and I think what the Marvel studios really and and by cooks, I mean writers, producers, cast needs, multiple massive ensemble cast of people that are hard to schedule, Like, you know, given all of the moving parts, I think I think they stuck the landing

in such a satisfying way. But I will say Infinity War is kind of of those two by I like to set up more than the resolution little bit. Yeah, I think I'm with you there. But you know, but to some degree that all these the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies are not movies in the same sense that we talk about any other movie like they are. They're their own flavor of things, you know, And um, I don't know, it's not I would not say it was a bit of a wink. It was. It was a huge of

a wink. All right, we'll do one more here and then I want to get your answer. Michael Williams says, I watched The Shining for the first time last year and was very underwhelmed. I kept wanting Shelley Long's character to get the ax, get out of town. Who's what's this person's name? This is Michael Williams, and he had a couple of people thumb that up. He's got this is This is Stephen King writing to you under his pseudonym, and await he said Shelley Long too, So I didn't

even catch that. That's all you need to know. Shelly Duval is the name of the actor. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Um. Stephen King, of course notoriously hates the Shine movie. Yeah, but what does he know? Went back, went back, got his money together and remade it in the nineties as a two part television mini series. It was not very good. Um.

I love Stephen King so much. I love that he did that, you know, because he's not you know, authors, Authors have a certain view of the worlds that they create, and watching something be adapted away can be very can be very challenging. And Stephen King knows what he's talking about. He knew the story that he wanted to tell, and

he caught his money together and he told it. You know, I kind of admire, you know, Stephen King getting in there and trying to remake one of the most you know, important movies by one of the most important directors of all time, featuring two iconic performances by Shelley duvalon Jack Nicholson and replacing them with Rebecca de Mornay and Stephen Webber from Wings and Stephen Webber, I've met it. He's a great guy, great actor. I mean, respect for stepping

into the Jack Nicholson role. I have no problem with that. But the shining is it's sweet, generous. You know, that's Latin. For Get the funk out of here complaining about the shining. Come on, it's just what it is. It's something, it's something that we have to cinematically reckon with for the rest of our lives. For a purpose. I agreed so do you have a movie you landed on one? I think, right, yeah, there is there is a movie. And I don't you know.

I'm speaking to you from Brooklyn, trans transmitting to you there in Atlanta, Georgia. So one way or another is going to strike a chord with you. But Gone with the Wind someone listed that. So I have had a long relationship with Gone with the Wind because my wife grew up in Atlanta and this was her favorite movie as a teenager, and we went to go see it at the Coolidge Corner Movie Theater. She moved to Brookline, Massachusetts, and we met in high school and after we started dating,

we came back. It doesn't at her. We went to go see it at the cool chorn of Theater in Brookline, and I had never seen it. Classic movie obviously, and it's also famous for being super duper long and having an intermission, which is great. No quarrel, no quarrel there. But coming out of the movie, she's like, wasn't that amazing?

Like that is propaganda for the Ku Klux Klan? Like that that is a movie that is literally a movie in which the Ku Klux Klan is founded and celebrated as heroes, like, that's not going to play in Brookline, Massachusetts, Atlanta And she was like, oh yeah, I never thought of it that way. It's like, yeah, it's really a bit problematic to watch a movie from to that that

romanticized the Confederate point of view. And I knew that as a teenager, but then I sweetened on it because there is no question it is fantastic filmmaking, incredible acting, movie making of a kind that we have, we have ali never will see again. They burned down the studio to film the Atlanta and Flames, like they had one shot and they took it. Storytelling is I mean, setting aside the abject racism of that movie, storytelling and characterization is is pitch perfect and it is not just as

a as a perfect machine of writing. It was gorgeously directed constantly. I mean, it's just it's an act. It's an incredible film. And because of that, I allowed myself to be lured into it as we would watch it every two or three years over the years and kind of stopped seeing the stuff that it initially made me so upset until until we rewatched it just a few

days ago. Quarantine times because my my son and I have been rewatching our son and I had been rewatching Firefly, and and there's an episode of Firefly that's that's set in this sort of like quays I super futuristic Confederate Ball. It reminded me of the scene from Go On with the Wind, and what are we gonna do? We've got

hours and hours and hours to sit around? So we put it on and this time both my and my wife's mouths dropped at how we are feelings about this movie had changed since the last time we saw it, which was maybe only three years ago. I mean, just the characterization of the movie itself is not unself critical. It is an open romantization of white Confederate South and trade and treason and racism. But but there are times

when it undercuts that message too. But mostly it is just what it is like, this horrible caricatures, lasting caricatures that formed white, moving going audiences view of what slavery and black people are for generations. And I don't know that I can never look at it again now, Like I'm embarrassed that I allowed myself to get lulled in by the movie making over the past twenty years and

didn't stick with. My initial reaction was like this, this is a piece of art and history, but it needs brackets. It's like it's like a Confederate statue. It needs to be torn down and put and put in a museum. You know. Well, next time you come to Atlanta, we will drink some Martini's in my sun room. We will call a lift, and we will go throw eggs at the Margaret Mitchell house. I don't want to cause anyone

any houses any damage. Well, we can just go flip at a burden then, but it's just, you know, I don't want to, you know, like I don't know what it. I don't know what it was that you know, I got clued into it whatever years ago. And then I just let it, let the movie making work. It's sick magic on me. And then finally the my eyes were opened again. It's interesting that your wife flipped on it too, though. Yeah, well, I mean she understood. She you know, she wasn't like,

how dare you so almost precious calls? You know, she's super smart and she and she, you know, it was living in Brooklyne, Massachusetts too, and she was like, yeah, that's true. I get it. I get it, but I guess I just like the story and the characters, and I just have a romantic you know, I'm not a have a childhood connection to it. And uh and then this time she we were just we looked over and it's like we are our eyes called, and we were like,

can you believe what we're watching? Like, let's turn this off? She said, I feel faint. Oh oh, I have the papers. So I knew you were gonna say the vapors. Well, had to be done, had to be done. All right, We're gonna finish up with a segment Mr Hodgeman about um And I don't know if we did this or not when you were on the other time, But it's a game called Haiku theater where in the movie crushers right high kus describing a film in some way, and

the guest has to guess the movie. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not. It's called haiku theater. And we'll get it going here with let me see here. Uh see. I told them to put the name of the movie, and then some of them didn't. But we're gonna start with our old friend. So we listened to the hiku and and try to guess what movie it's described. Yeah, I know the answers, but you try and guess, alright, and and rebel in the creativity of the crushers in

their hikus. Yea. So from one of the old pals, A big Fish fan, Ethan Yavin says this he won't work for tunes because one killed his brother. Weasels died laughing. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Very nice? Please remember that movie is called Who Framed Roger Rabbit, not Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Because it does not have a question mark on the end. He put a question well, and if you look, does

it not have one? It does not. And if my memory serves, it's because the studio marketing department thought that that would not sell as well to have a question mark the titles. People, Uh, you want to hear something shocking. I've never seen that movie. Oh wow, talk about whole I know that's a big, gaping, dirty, dirty hole. Uh, it's good, all right, we're gonna go on too. Let me see here. Um alright, I don't know if you'll

probably not know this one. One of our top fans, Christopher Steiner, says this annoying pesci diplomat immunity dislocate shoulder. M hm. You might get that actually, m hm. Oh, it's um one of those movies. I never saw. It's a lethal weapon correct, lethal weapon too. Lethal Weapon two has Peshi in it. That was good. Lethal Weapon two is pretty good. I've never seen a single lethal weapon none, No, not a one, not a one, not a two, not a three, not a four or therefore I think there

are four. Yeah, And now that we know Mel Gibson is a garbage human, I suppose that's true. It's probably not so hard to avoid. Although although I am of the I am a huge mad Maxteria Road fan is all right thinking people should be. And they made the right call. Tom Hardy was great in it, excellent. I wish that I wish that Mel Gibson was not a garbage human because it would have been great to see him at that at his age, in that role and and round it out. That would have been incredible. That

would have been cool. But the call was made, and it was the correct call. Old friend David Mills has this for us. Stuck into Menchin five teams start to figure out who they really are. What else could it be? It's inception inception. Uh no, it's not. It's breakfast Club. Okay, good job. Christi Richardson has this one? Could I be the one jumping across tall buildings? It's all just code man. The Matrix another one that we just watched. Yeah, oh yeah.

Did you that that movie holds up very well? I think, oh, it's a perfect it's a perfect machine of a movie. Yeah, I I totally agree. Uh, well, it's just just perfect, not a not a not a thing out of place. That moment at the end when he's in the hallway and he breathes in and the walls flex with him, Yeah, it's just like that gets me. I got chills right now every single time I see that. That that last

bit is just amazing. Yeah. And I'm obviously some of the effects and some of the stuff is a little bit dated, but only because it's been copied so much. It still looks cool. You know. I remember, not not having seen some of the Asian action films that the wirework was cribbed from. Uh, seeing Trinity run up the wall and that opening sequence, I was like, boh, change forever. Yeah yeah, yeah same here and bullet time, Like it was the coolest thing ever. The first time I saw it,

it was the coolest thing ever. But it holds up. Okay, here we go. Um. Josh Brennan says this baby steps are key, family vacation destroyed. Dreyfuss eats a fish. Look who's talking. It's just because the word baby was in there. No, it's what about Bobs? What about Bob? Fun? Fun old movie? Let me see if that one has a question mark in the title? Yeah, on the on the so who framed Roger Rabbit is listed in Wikipedia with a question mark? But on the on the theatrical release poster it does

not have a question mark. And I remember this being a thing. But by the time we got to Richard Dreyfus, Bill Murray and what about Bob, question marks were allowed in titles of movies. Aaron Snell says this, John, this is a good one, great movie. We can't take that hill. But the General's needs stars sacrifice three men. This is a war movie or a western movie to war movie. And therefore I'm not John Roderick, not the co host of Friendly Fire. A little out of my A little

out of my wheelhouse, wheel house. So if you can tell me which war it is, I can tell you which movie it is? World War One? Nope, I made a mistake. Gendery director Black and White. Uh. Is that the Kubrick World War One movie Pads of Glory? Paths of Glory, with Kirk Douglas having recently passed away. I just saw that movie, uh, as part of the Filmmaker series last year, and it blew me away. I've never seen it, man, I've never been into war movies and

I'm not. It's it's not that I dislike them. It just takes me a little bit an extra push to go and see them and put them in. Yeah, put them in the machine to go. All right. Here's one from one of our old friends, Alex Glasnovich, and he says, to read it in a Southern accent. Oh my my, would fourteen years lock up? Locked up? Now you will learn about loss ready counselor Yes, this is um inception. It is the Martin Scorsese remake, uh, starring Nick Nolty

and Robert de Niro. Hang On Payne River, Wait, await, let me get. I can't remember the name of the movie. Paine River, Payne River, Fear, New Jersey Cape Fear. There we are took me a sec well, I like Paine river Man. We should write that movie starring the Cape Fear is based on a novel called The Executioners by John D. McDonald, famous crime author and John D. McDonald is the author of one of my very favorite series

of crime novels, the Travis McGee series. I've heard of those, I think, And yeah, so Cape Fear takes place on a houseboat. Travis McGee is a a kind a kind of private eye, kind of adventurer, kind of beach bum who lives on a house about in Fort Lauderdale and helps people out if he feels like it. And he's a man with a mysterious past. And John D. McDonald wrote something like twenty five of these books between ninety four and they all have a color in the title.

The one I'm reading right now is called A Deadly Shade of Gold, and boy are they good. And they have made movies out of two of them, um, but but it never took. They made they made a movie in the sixties with an actor I don't remember, and then they tried to make a TV movie for a pilot for a series starring Sam Elliott, who would have been perfect casting for t was mcgage, but that's been erased. And then speaking of Nelson, Uh, speaking of um who

directed The Dark Knight? Uh? Nolan? No one right? Speaking of Nolan, Christian Bale was cast as Travis McGee recently in a movie that I think seems to have died. But the Travis McGee books are a lot of fun. You would enjoy them a lot. Check especially the ones in the the mid to late seventies are the best. They're a real portrait of time. All right, I'm writing that down because I trust you. All Right, I think we have time for a couple more here before you

have to get going. This is from Ben Masters. Top Fans has given Hodgman's personality and likes. Here's one he might enjoy. We'll see Ebon Enigma. Sam Spade is on the case stuff dreams are made of. Oh, I enjoy that. That's the Maltese falcon. Very nice. Ab An enigma mm hmm, yes, that's the falcon itself. Eban is an obscure word for black as an ebony. Okay, yeah, this one doesn't describe a film. It sort of does, but I just think

it's kind of great right now. Christopher Rennie says this, all these protesters should settle down and watch some Steven Soderberg. A nice job, Christopher, that's a good one. I like that. I enjoy that a lot. Contagion, of course, absolutely number one, number one trending movie on iTunes right now, is it really? It probably is? Huh oh, it's it's been up there for a while for a while since the beginning. As soon as as soon as we heard that the school's

might close, we immediately watched Escape from New York. Great, Uh, what else did we watch? Like back when we thought it was sort of a funny joke that if this was happening, I am the twin twenty eight days later, I am legend all lots of them, lots of sort of apocalyptic parttularly New York if possible, apocalyptic society collapsing stories, but one I would not ever watch again as Contagion. Yeah, I feel like I saw other movies were training for

you guys. Yeah, I saw that back back when that was that was just this was all just an idea. Yea great movie, you know what I mean? And as that's really hit me hard as a hard movie. Yeah, it's very tough, all right, my friend. That is all the time that you have. So we're gonna wrap here on episode two. A lot of fun man, it was a good hand. Can we talk every week? Can we do this every week or something? We could do this every week. I miss you, Chuck, I miss you. It's

so easy to reach out across the internet. I know. And sadly, Max fun Con this year has been canceled until next year, So I'm not even going to get to see you probably this year maybe yeah, but if but Max fun Con, if it holds up, if we are able to get to pack together by June of next year, Max fun Coom will be held on fiftieth birthday. Oh really, quite a party. Quite a party. I'm going to go to bed at I'm going to stay up

all the way to ten and fifteen. Uh you're oh, that's right, because I'll be fifty in fun I'll bet two in March not fifty as well. Yeah, we have a good time. We have a good time. We're old man, all right, good scene the stuff. The stuff podcasts were made of two old men talking about movies. Give my love to the family, and yeah, take care and your mind to yours. Yeah, you guys, be careful and be safe and and uh, get that machine gun ready if if New York goes bad. Yeah, you know, I'm a child.

I'm a child of Massachusetts seven. Don't have any guns. All right, Thanks you guys for listening. And there's a lot of fun. Good seeing man, take care man, you two all right, Bye, bye bye. I gotta run. I'm sorry to jump off, but I gotta go. Yeah. For more podcasts for my heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.