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Mini Crush #105: Oscar Recap Special

Feb 17, 202047 min
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Chuck and Paul recap the 2020 Academy Awards. 

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Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to Miny Crush Oscar Recap a dish. Uh. We were recording. We started to record this show um about an hour ago with A Noel and Noel said, I didn't watch the Oscars. So I said, you know what, let's probably not talk about just the Oscars then, and he said, I've read stuff about it and watch clips. I said, now, let's just not and then we opened

the door. Paul was standing right outside with his clipboard and his Oscar pick, and you had forty minutes free. I feel fortunate to have been called called up from the bench. I appreciate it. Man, thanks for jumping in here. Of course, the flexibility is great. So you did watch the Oscars? I did? Okay, do you usually what's your oscar deal? Uh? In recent years, I've kind of made it a thing to watch it every year. As you know, Casey Pegram and I are roommates, and so we kind

of just make a little thing of it. We you know, we print out the ballot sheets, we fill out our predictions and uh, we usually watched the ceremony in case he saw it too, he did, Yeah, I'd like to come to that party. Guys. Well it's a party of two, but we'd love to have you. I would love to watch the Oscar. Yeah, it's fun. Here's my deal is, we used to really get into the oscars. It used to be a fun night and I would drink Martini's and sometimes we would have a party. Uh, and it

was just kind of one of those fun things. But it's I don't know if it's me or them, it's it's weighed on me. Yeah, more and more over the years as a little more of a chore and not like, oh, this is something excited for kind of the whole notion that awards are bullshit for Art Ramsey's nodding. He's so mad that he even has to sit in on this. So it's gotten a little bit like that. But it's not like I watched it and was like the whole time, you know, I still enjoy a good speech. Yeah, that's

interesting about your history with it. Do you think it's a Do you think it's because the quality of the ceremony and the presentation has gone down? Do you think it's your I think it's a little bit of all of it. It's all sort of combined to me not

really loving it. And also I think having social media means a you can just not watch and just like follow Twitter to find out who wins, and if anybody gives a good speech, they're probably going to post it within five minutes and just watch all this ship so and not have to sit through the garbage. Yeah, they didn't have a host this year, um, which I think is I think it's some people like it, but I think that's it's starting to Didn't this is second year.

Didn't they do that last year? Yeah? Yeah, what do you think about that? Um? I honestly don't have a strong opinion. I tend to find any types of Awards shows where a host is doing their stick I rarely find them that funny to you, not like, oh the Billy Crystal days, we need to go back to those. It is funny to go back and watch the old Billy Crystal because his are just so cheeseball. They're very sticky,

which makes me kind of miss them. He's very old guard, you know, like, let's write some obvious jokes and do a little song and dance and it's time for Oscar. Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe I'm a little more cynical than it used to be. Yeah, did you So the beginning of the ceremony, after Janelle Monet's performance, they brought out which was you know, had a lot of energy. Yeah, yeah,

she's great, I love her. But after that, they brought out Steve Martin and Chris Rock to kind of almost act like host, to rifle little do a few jokes, and they were making jokes about not being about being non host, which is kind of funny. I found, and

I'm a big fan of both of them. I found a lot of that material just very tired, like when they you know, they said Jeff Bezos is in the audience and then they made some jokes about him being rich, and it was just kind of okay, it was all it's all just a little obvious, and there's no I mean to say that the oscars have no edge, is there's no way to say that with such like emphasis. There's not enough emphasis you can put on that. It's it's obvious to even say that. Agreed, it's edgeless. It's

a big round, rounded corners, just like this table. I thought that Steve Martin and Chris Rock were okay. Chris Rock is always funny to me, like just his voice and the way he delivers jokes. It was weird to me because I'm a big fan of him too, and I felt like just maybe the material that somebody whoever wrote it for him or I don't know if he wrote it, but it just felt it was lacking, Like you said, an edge, Yeah, but it wasn't. That definitely

wasn't Rock's best stuff. I thought Kristin Wegg and my Rudolph kind of stole the show. Yeah, as far as the pairings go, they're great. They're national treasures. They're fucking hysterical. I love both of them. I love my Rudolph. I wish somebody would give her like a lead role. Yeah, I wish Paul Thomas Anderson would would cast her in a Somebody joked about her and Tiffany Hattis should be he should write a movie for those two, like a

buddy comedy. That'd be great. Or I'd love to see her in a because she did that movie, uh, or the the TV show with Fred Armison that was just terrific. I don't know if you saw that um Forever. Yes, I didn't watch. I didn't finish it for some reason. But I loved it. It was great. Yeah, it was one of my favorite show. It's much I don't know if darker is the right word, but it's much more serious serious. Will still funny, you know, but it made me think, like, like you're saying, I would not even

a comedy. I would love to see her dig her teeth into a really meaty, sort of tragic comic role. She's just she's great. She's so talented, so tszing under under used, I think. And Kristen wigg amazing. I love that haircut on her. She could pull that off. Uh. And then I think for the other pairing comedically, Will Ferrell and Julia Louis Dreyfuss, Yeah, I thought they were

pretty funny. They were funny. I mean, yeah, you kind of their whole their whole joke was not knowing what a cinematographer does, I think, which was funny, which was enjoyable. They're just they're great. Yeah. Um so let's talk a little bit about one of my gripes. And this is territory that's a little tricky to navigate. But the inclusivity, um angle. I thought, and I said this on the Facebook page that the Oscars just seem even more out of touch by going so hard in on the inclusivity

in such an obvious, ham fisted way. And it's disappointing to me because I think if it reeked of tokenism to me, like, well, we won't nominate women and people of color, but hey, let's trot you all out here as much as possible for this telecast to make us seem like we're hip and inclusive, and it just doesn't feel genuine. I think one of the face I think my buddy Austin on the Facebook page said it best. He was like, the thing about inclusivity is is if

you are, you just are. You don't have to make some big, obvious show about it. So it just just they just can't get it right still, even when they're trying to do the right thing. I agree, And to me, to bring it back to the opening, I kind of felt that with Janelle Janelle Manet's performance, it's like we didn't nominate it, or we nominated one person of color, and so right off the bat, we're gonna bring up bring on Janelle Manet and show that hey, we're not

so bad. I must say, like her performance in and of itself was great. She's an amazing performer, so talented. But in terms of the optics of it, it felt like they were trying, like you said, very hard to not have this image of old, white, out of touch men, but with a bunch of old, out of touch white men making the decision to just smash as much inclusivity in there as possible. Yeah, it didn't feel organic or real.

That is That is the actually the reason why I didn't watch the Oscars, and I've made a choice, like because my wife was like, hey, do you want to watch it? And I was like, no, not really. You know, I'm I'm I think I can sit this one out. And you know, I just the nominees just you know, I don't know. The thing is, like I don't know what movies came out this year. I would put an place.

I mean, we mentioned Dolomite is my name. I could have seen that one easily up there for something Eddie Murphy as far as you know what he's done for the film industry. But like you know, and I feel they came up with these nominations, they didn't put much thought into it, and then they were like, oh shit, okay, Parasite it's gonna win everything. We gotta make sure a parasite wins something, and then any saying it was rigged

fixes in. It fixes a you know, this is a conspiracy show, right, but no, I mean it's like in the nuts to say and this is not to say a parasite doesn't deserve it. Was one of my favorite films from last year. I could have easily when they had these dominations. I would have easily seen the Irishman win or something like that, which would have put it just put it like a little cherry on the cake

as far as how I feel about the Oscars. And I mean it just you know, even to bring it back last year when Spike Lee won for Best Screenplay, I was like, I'm not saying this is that guy deserves to win all the Oscars. I mean he does, you know. Do the Right Thing is one of my favorite films, but like it felt like, okay, we need to give him an Oscar. I felt like, I think I know what you're saying. Yeah, hopefully that makes sense.

And it's not to say he didn't deserve it. Sure, And it's not to say no one else, no one, because it is not these actors faults because they're just doing their job. Yeah, and some of some of the Oscar wins over the years, and of all races and genders have been sort of nod to their lifetime body of work. Uh. Some people said that about Laura Derning

this year, like Laura Dern's great. Um, I don't know if she deserved it for marriage story, but it felt a little more like, hey, we love you and you've done so great in your career. You're nominated this year, so well, it's get you that Oscar while the getting is good. Yeah, it's a fair criticism, I think. And and to Ramsey, to Ramsey's point, I'm trying to remember how the voting works, but I believe it's it's uh,

I can't remember. It's it's sort of some kind of I think it's like ranked choice, so that if like if you're voting for Best Picture, a movie might get a bunch of second place votes and it could still win if it has more than if the if the first place vote was really divisive, the second place vote could actually end up being the winner, which is a lot of times why it always feels like they choose just something that's very just crowd pleasing. And not not

necessarily the movie that's risk taking. Uh so that could play into it too. Maybe, so I will say to put a button on the inclusivity thing. And again I hope no one's taking this is like, I don't think they should be inclusive. I just think you should just be inclusive as a whole and not be so not inclusive that one year you go a thousand percent in

the other direction in a really ham fisted way. But is when they had Taikawait come out there and say something about the indigenous land on which, like Hollywood is you know, it's great to acknowledge that, but it was so there was just something about it that was I could just picture them in the room thinking like, oh, here's what else we can do. Were there any Native American tribes here in in l A, let's honor them.

The people will love that and that and it's possible to that Wait might have chosen to say that on his own. Oh you think, I don't know. But what I will say to your point is that to acknowledge that Hollywood and pretty much all of America is built on the blood of Native Americans, and then not to acknowledge that probably uh it was genocide that led to

these cities being built. You know, it's not like the way it was presented in the ceremony was like you could you could easily get the impression that hey, these were Native American lands and we all kind of got together and made a little deal and we said we're gonna build our little city and every but he's cool and we hugged and everything, and it was far from that, you know, forced removal. I will say a hair love Uh the animated short Fantastic had me in tears? Was it?

I didn't see it highly right, it's out on YouTube and it's it's really my daughter is her dad's black And just seeing what my mom, what my wife goes through every day as far as trying to figure like how to comb her hair, it just like I can just see him. Yeah, it just say that that one hit home. Very lovely story, Yeah, very lovely story. But that was one of the great moments of the oscars.

I think it was when that one, Yeah, totally and they brought that the that kid who wasn't able to go to prom because of his hair and all that time, you know, which is crazy. Um, but Walking Phoenix's speech. I mean, yeah, I mean, let's talk about it, because it was basically pointing it out, like, hey guys, we we were all privileged up here, and parts of it I really liked. Um, it was a little long and

got a little weird and meandering. I think he could have focused it a little better and had a bit more of an impact. I did like what he said about the best of humanity is when we're helping each other along and not canceling each other out. Uh. But you know, he was walking being waking. He apologized for

his behaviors, which I thought was nice. I think for me what's interesting about him is he's so clearly unrehearsed and you never know what you're gonna get, which I which to me is refreshing, even if this the ultimate outcome is a bad speech or a good speech. We were just talking briefly off Mike before we started recording about his speech at the BAFTA's was it Yeah, which was to me much more on point about issues of representation and acknowledging that he and everyone else are sort

of the problem and we need to be the solution. Uh. And and this one in the oscars he went off on the kind of talking about artificially inseminating cows and what he's saying. Yeah, I felt like he's trying to cram too much in there, you know. Yeah. I mean it's whenever we show our dominance over people, we that's you know, taking it to that level. But like his Baptist speech, I was all for. I was like that, that's he put it right, he nabled it right on

the head. And then this one, I was like, Okay, you need to get off stage. Get off stage. What about Brad Pitt opening with his uh, his jab at Republicans. Here's my deal. I'll just go ahead and start conversation. You know, I'm a an old school hippie liberal, so you know where my political allegiance lays. But I just I don't want to. I don't care to hear that at the Oscars. And because partially is because I don't think that Brad Pitt making a dig at the impeachment hearing.

I don't think it changes anything at all at all. And I think it just served his ammo for Republicans and conservatives to scream about liberal eliteswood out of touch Hollywood elites. Yeah, it just it just it doesn't help anything. I don't think it would be one thing I've thought, like if he was furthering some cause, but it just felt like a dig that he even took me out of it for a moment. Yeah, that's just me. I

kind of agree, to be fair. I've Brad Pitt's one of a lot of awards for this role over the past few months, and he's always been pretty humorous in his speeches. Yeah, they've been great. If you go back and watch, I think golden globes are you know. He he usually has some kind of funny turn of phrase and it's fun to watch him do that because he actually hasn't won many awards. He has never won an

acting award that an Oscar. Yeah he won a producing Oscar, that's right, But yeah, this is this long career and he got his first acting Oscar. I do agree with you though about the joke. It just flat. It was it was just more ammo for people to yeah, like you said, say Hollywood is out of touch. But that did remind me his producing when so he runs or owns Plan B Pictures and great stuff. To his credit, him and that company has been responsible for producing and

helping get off the ground. Many many films by uh filmmakers of color. Oh yeah, yeah, so they are doing good work and he is doing good work. I would say that I totally agree their plan B is great. I was I loved seeing um and I have no idea how to pronounce her last name, Hilder good Nuttier. Uh. For the first woman to win as composer, Yes, for joker. That's the category that is almost always male, even nominee wise. It's just it's just one of those jobs in the

film industry that females don't. Women don't get a lot of love as composers. And just look at it. I don't get look at who was up. Who was also nominated, Alexandra Displah, Randy Newman, Thomas Newman, and John Williams. It was a stacked, a stacked category. She she was wonderful and her speech was great. Um to the girls, to the women, to the mothers, to the daughters who hear the music bubbling within, please speak up. We need to hear your voices. That is pretty powerful stuff and one

of the moments of the nine. I think Laura dern to me had one of the other great speeches of the night. She is beloved. I love her. I thought she was great and Marriage Story. I don't know if that was like the best role she's ever done. Like give her an oscar for wild at Heart if you want to talk about like powerhouse acting. But you know, um, let me see who who else was? Kathy Bates? She was great. Yeah, Cathy Bates might have been my other choice. Scar Joe I loved, but I would have rather seen

her win Best Actress for Marriage Story. Yeah. I was really rooting for her. Um or Florence Pugh for Little Women she was she was great and I did not see a bombshell yet. But Margot Roby is great. But um, yeah, Laura dern speech was really really nice. Acknowledging her parents like that was just sweet, very very lovely. Uh, and then her acknowledging her friends at the end. It was It was a good moment. Big big fan of hers. Did you guys ever see Enlightened? No, highly recommended. That

was Mike White's show that he did. I think it was Showtime, um where she plays a woman who is ah just lost her job because she had an affair with the boss and kind of freaks out and it's all about her trying to become enlightened and find her new path. It is fucking fantastic to check it out. I am a really good man. He's great, he's a he's a jewel. Let me see what else I have in here. Renee Zellwigger, all right, did not see Judy? Did you? I didn't know, so I can't speak to

the performance. I'm sure it was great, but I really wanted Scarlett Johanson to win for marriage story. Um, and I thought Renee's a worker's speech was very nice, but just something about it felt disconnected. I felt rehearsed. I didn't feel the emotion. Did you like it? I honestly don't even remember it. So it was very polite and very sweet. She seems like a great person. Yeah, I don't know, man, the whole thing was just sort of

flatlined for me, though. Yeah. I mean to be fair, none of us did see the movie yet, so I'm not gonna. I don't feel qualified to comment yet, having not seen the more coming on her speech. Right, fair enough, fair enough? I did sure she was great as Judy Garland. I did see a few critics sort of talking about how they kind of predicted this win, and this the consensus seems to be the movies okay, standard biopic, but she kind of it. But yeah, I don't remember the speech,

so that says a lot. Ramsey is that when he watched on YouTube the speech. No, I did not watch her speech. Well, I saw. I saw her speech at the Golden Globes and you know, how did she win there? Okay, I don't think I remember that. Taka With winning for Adapted Screenplay was a pretty great moment because he's awesome. Yeah. I did also want to see credit Orwig win. Yeah, and I think a lot of people expected it seems I predicted Little Women to win because because she didn't

get nominated for director. Yeah, the film is great, and the script is really good, and it's a good adaptation, and it's a fresh adaptation the way she plays with the structure. Um, I would have liked to see The Irishman win. Well, but should we go ahead talk about the Irishman because and I said in the last episode, this is not shade. I was jin really happy to see it completely shut out. I was genuinely not surprised.

I actually I tweet what I don't tweet very often, but my tweet prediction was that the The The Irishman would go home empty handed. Oh really you predicted that? Yeah. I thought maybe Pesci would get supporting, But then I remember Brad Pitt has been cleaning up, so very very disappointed that it didn't get anything, but not surprised. Ramsey now comment Brad Pitt, Let's talk about his role. Actually, I liked that movie a lot. I loved it too,

and I really enjoyed his performances Cliff Booth. But there's something to me when it comes to Oscar time. I need to I need more for an Oscar Award. And I'm not saying you have to, you know, play rain Man or something. You have to really go to some place that's just so different from who you are. But this felt kind of like Brad Pitt being Brad Pitt

a little bit like I need to see more. That's why I wanted Scarlett Johansen to win, because she just was so digging in there emotionally like, to me, that's the performance. Those are performances that I want to see

win awards. I might disagree with you here, not about scar Joe, but about Brad Pitt, about Brad Pitt because that's that's kind of why I liked that it won because it is a very laid back, relaxed performance, and it is the type of performance you might not expect to be be winning awards because a lot of times in awards ceremonies, especially the Oscars, the old saying is

it's not necessarily the best performance is the most performance. Well, yeah, I mean we won't uh, we won't quote um the Ben Stiller movie exactly, remember the what was the Vietnam

spoofy did oh Tropic Thunder? But you know there's a thread in that movie about what you have to do to win an oscar, And that's kind of true, Like you know, you gotta be Conaughey playing um An AIDS patient or Dustin Hoffman playing rain Man, or you have to do something that fully transformative or losing fifty pounds or gaining So I see what you mean to honor a performance is just sort of uh, not super flashy. I'm okay with that. I sorry to keep harping on this.

I would have given it to Pesci for Irishman. Good for you, just so everyone has some backstory. There's been a lot of fun. Uh, Irishman gibing going on in the office because you and Casey loved it so much and I hated it and when and I think that's because we usually agree on most of the stuff. So it's been a little bit of a fun thing. I've been trolling you guys a little bit. May I will say it was my favorite film with twenty nineteen and

one of my favorite films of the decade. It's your list amazing, I said, I wish Scorsese had a cam on him the whole time of the Oscars, just how confused he was about everything. I when they cut to him and he looked like he was falling asleep during eminem that was great. Those are the moments you live for. So Roger Deakins legend, legend V great. I have not seen it yet. Oh really, Yes, you did see it. Yeah, it just it hasn't interested me that much. And you

like war movies generally, Yeah, I'm not your bag. I mean, I'm kind of in the middle of the road on him. A lot of times. It depends on the director, you know. Uh. And just my impression of the movie has been it's that it's it's a decent movie that everyone's hyping because of the one take gimmick, right right, what do you think? I mean, I haven't seen it yet, but I thought

it was a great movie. Really. The story was engrossing. Um. I think the one take thing was very effective and not so much a gimmick because it felt like it really worked with the story, which was just following these guys forward to complete one task. It doesn't get bogged down with subplots and other storylines. It just really worked for the movie. I think. Uh, and and yeah, I mean Deacons is a legend, like I said, and so he should. I think he's been nominee like fourteen or

fifteen times and this is only a second win. First one was Blade Runner. Yeah, like it took him a long time. He was overlooked unfairly for the first twelve Yeah. A lot of a lot of great work with the Coen brothers. Yeah. And I mean, of course any a lot many many great directors. Yeah, but his Cohen stuff like is for sure like standout stuff. Yeah. Just looking at the nominees here, having not seen nineteen seventeen, to be fair, I probably would have given it to once

upon a time in Hollywood. It looked great. It did look great. You know, I was really happy to see that win for production design. Yeah, yeah, me too. I think Tarantino was probably a little disappointed to not win anything personally. Sure, I'm sure everyone that doesn't win his discipline. Yeah, that's a pretty obvious statement. But where's uh, I'm not seeing the cinematography. Irishman. Okay, Irishman looked great, did look great. I'll give you that Joker. Joker look good? Well, yeah, no,

I Joker was was really well shot. Yeah. The Lighthouse, I was disappointed Lighthouse got shut out of the Acting Awards. I can't believe they didn't nominate either one of those guys. Like even if you thought it was a weird, experimental, borderline experimental film that didn't quite fit, Like the acting in that movie is off the charts, and the production design that wasn't nominated. Yeah, that's bizarre, Like that was one of the most authentic feeling movies I've ever seen.

Uh So, that was a little crazy. Speaking of snubs, Adam Sandler Sandman, I can't even talk about that. Still, it's remarkably me that Jim's did not receive a single nomination. Is it because the movie is uncomfortable to watch. I don't know, man, it's it's inexplicable. See, it's that's the stuff that contributes to my fucky Oscar's attitude. Lately, it's like not one at least Sandler. I thought he's gonna win. I was like, man, this is going to be his Oscar.

Have you seen a movie that has been so original and how they use everything, like how they use it Safty Brothers, if you're listening to this, we love you. Yes, You're great. Keep keep killing it. You guys are the best. Come on our show. Yes, please. You know they're not listening to this. I know I'm skipping Parasite for now, just so we can kind of talk about all at once. Uh, Costumes,

Little Women, it was great. I kind of wanted to see Once upon a Time in America win for that, honestly, Hollywood, Yeah what I say, America? That movie was really overlooked to come ahead, thank of it, you know, speaking of costume sign and makeup and hairstyling, which bombshell one for yeah. Uh.

One of a writer I like a lot. Richard Brody for The New York Or How a little rite up of his take on the winners and losers, and he had a really interesting angle on that where he said, you know, obviously this isn't intentional, but the sort of underlying theme of the movies that feature basically a mostly female cast. The only awards they won were makeup and costume design kind of just something interesting. No, I mean

that that bears talking about for sure. Uh. Yeah, Bombshella did not see, but I will say just seeing, um, the transformation into Megan Kelly. Is that her name? Yeah? I mean who goes to that? Yeah? Like man? And what's his face too? The John Lisco ales is another good another good makeup job. Uh. And then let's talk about Parasite, a movie that I have not seen really. Yeah, still it's shameful. I've tried. It's it's been a rough few weeks. Uh, personally in my house. Okay, not Emily

and are fine. There's just some extended family stuff that's going on, So there hasn't been like a lot of great opportunities to watch the movie. We've been meaning to watch it together. That's why I haven't squirreled it away on my own. I can't wait to see it. I cannot wait to see this movie. It's so uh. I I really liked it a lot. I don't. I didn't quite put it in sort of masterpiece status that many

people are. I was like, in terms of doing thumbs, I'd give it four out of five thumbs excellent movie. I'm super happy at one Best Picture, if only because the this one of the other front runners had been nineteen seventeen, and again I have not seen the movie yet, but it felt just so predictable, and the fact that this is the first time in international film has one Best Picture, it's pretty amazing. In Bong June Hoo is great director. He's have you seen any of the other stuff? Yeah?

That saw Snow Pier, sir um. What was the other one that was? Did not see that? What else? Uh? Mother? Memories of Murder? What did I see? If? Yes, I've seen and Snow sir So, I would recommend if you get a chance, watch Memories of Murder. Have you seen Ramsey three? Yes? So it is basically, you know David Fincher's movie Zodiac. It's like that, but it came out

before Zobiac. It's this dark, sort of slow burn investigation of in uh, sort of these grizzly murders that are happening and these sort of two investigators who are just doggedly on the case. Super atmospheric and maybe probably my favorite movie by him. Yeah it's great, um, but yeah, Parasite um is excellent. Actually, the production design on it is great too. Did that even get nominated? I don't

think it did. Nope? Oh yeah I did it did. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a very modern you've probably seen pictures the home it takes place in, which I think they built specifically for the movie. But you know, he's and he won best director too, Yeah, he won. He won International Film Best Picture or Best Director and Best Screenplay, Best

Original Screenplay, which was that's a clean sweep. And this does not feel like Hollywood pandering too um inclusivity to me, because everything I've heard is everyone is that I know who's seen the movie said, hey, the best picture one best picture family, which is great. It's it's it was great, And a lot of people have been talking about how you could kind of feel the energy in the room watching it, where everyone was just so happy for Parasite to be winning, because I think it is just it

was a crowd a fan favorite of crowdflip favorite. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, um so, yeah, I'm happy for him and hopefully this you know, not that he's necessarily had trouble getting movies made, but you know the bump that comes with winning Oscars. Hopefully he gets a blank check to do whatever he wants to. He'll get more money. Uma was great too. Yeah, so he's on. He's and and seeing his accept acceptance speeches as always been fun. Drinking till tomorrow. That was great.

He seems like a cool guy. Uh. I'm trying to think of any of their final thoughts here before we move on to Haiku Theater. Um, I did I want to see for original screenplay and this is someone who has not seen Parasite yet. I did kind of want to see Marriage Story or Knives Out? Get that, but they were just that's a great category this year. Yeah. I don't know about that script. I mean it was fine, but I don't know if it was like some writing powerhouse that the rest of these were. Yeah, but yeah,

marriage Story great, great script. No a bomb box um and Knives Out? Yeah, I agree with you. Any other thoughts, I mean, we could talk about film editing Ford versus Ferrari. You haven't seen it. Haven't seen it yet. I do want to see it. Yeah, me too. That was also got the Word for Sound Editing. Nine SEV did win a couple of technical awards for visual Effects in sound mixing Elton John One Best Original Song. Yeah, I haven't seen rocket Man. Did you see it? I did? Yeah,

I've seen it twice. Really, I liked it. I'm John fanatic though, yeah. Really, yeah, so it was it was right up my alley. And that's kind of all the awards, guys. I just want to say, like Parasite deserves everything. I mean from earlier what I said, like it deserved everything. I mean it was since Uncut Jim's was not on the list. It deserves to be Best Picture because like my favorite two films, and I had trouble figuring out

which was my favorite, was Parasite or Uncut Gims. Yeah all right, so dudes, we're gonna we're gonna move on to u Hiku Theater. We're doing a special Oscar edition, so you've probably not even heard Hiku. I don't even know what we're doing. Yeah, this is when I call him the movie crushers to write Hikus about various things. Sometimes it's see if you can stump us with what the hiku is about. Sometimes it's a theme like Kevin Bacon hikus. This time this is an Oscar recap. Hikus.

I said, it can be about anything, telecast, winners, losers, whatever. And we're gonna start off with Caroline Gaston mid show recap rap. That was kind of fun. Actually that was yeah, and I was wondering, like, how did they do that? Yeah, he had to like write it on the fly and memorize it. Un listen. I didn't see a teller. I mean maybe I had a teleprompter, but he certainly didn't play like he was looking at it. Very impressive. Mid show recap rap. Uh Oot Karsh m boot Car is here.

What a nice surprise. Don't know who that is to you? It sounds like an out of touch white guy. Oh he's the guy who did the rap. I've never heard of him. So it looks like he was in Pitch Perfect. He's in the upcoming Mulan Bosmati Blues Blind Spotting. I saw that, Okay, I didn't know he was in that. Alright, good one. Caroline Alicia deats another Awards, So we get at Hollywood dressing up as fun very cynic. Jennifer Rose says, you rewore address. I'm supposed to be impressed. Come on,

that's not woke. Okay, Okay, here's the deal. She said. This is on the fact that a couple of celebrities reward is on her gowns that they've worn to another event, and we're supposed to applaud them for saving the environment.

Good one, okay, man, everyone's mad, all right. Matthew Jackson, Kristen and maya funniest part of the night hosts for next year, please full support there ye Avalon Rector, thank you great honor, which I think was uh yeah, that was one of his statements or one of his statements. I prepared a statement that was in a speech, thank you great honor, Foreign representation, love diversity. Okay, my old

buddy Austin Hamler, my oscar advice. Set DVR start at nine boom, perfect pacing m HM so started an hour after it starts, So then the buzz through all the shitty stuff. I agree, although they had they've really gotten away from the just sort of fluff. They used to have a lot more like you know, roblo singing, with snow White legendarily that awful train wreck of a ship show. Uh, they've done away with a lot of the big production stuff. Yeah, they kind of just keep it to an intro number

and then the song. The songs. Yeah, that that reminds me of the fact that I know the past few years they had been doing a thing where they kept trying to cut down the length of the show and so they were giving they were awarding people during commercial breaks and things, and I think they've got I think they didn't do that. This didn't do that this year because everyone was like that so dumb. Yeah, I'm very

thankful that they abandoned that, hopefully permanently idea. And it feels like they didn't cut anyone off speech wise that the music swelling. I don't think they did that this year. The only thing at the very end, when Parasite one they started bringing the lights down. Remember they one of the producers said a few words and then the lights just over their group started to go down, and then everyone in the crowds started saying, Okay, I didn't quite

get what was going on. Remember that moment though, Yeah, they just they can't get this word show right to keep sucking it up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's it's the producers. I think they should go young and higher. Like that's probably cliche to say Seth Rogan and and Evan Handler. They should hire Tim Heidecker and Eric Wareheim to do the whole show. Yeah, and like get get a group of like five or six younger people. Get like Mindy Kaling in there. She's they featured her,

but like she's a great writer. She should be a part of that team. Family Grant Joe, Joe, parasite, irishman, No none for you, shallow may nice brooch. Yeah, he had a kind of a funky little outfit. Here's he looked like he was dressed like a what was it like a gas station attendant or something. It a really like in a nice neighborhood. Though, you know, he's playing Bob Dylan in a in a movie coming up just announced. Cannot wait for that. In terms of physical appearance, I

could definitely see it a young Dylan. Yeah, shout out the hair ping some wayfirs. I think he's great. I'm a fan. Yeah, he's fantastic. Austin Handler, Oh snap, Eminem Wait, why is Eminem here? Who cares lose yourself? Why? What was the reasoning for him? I think they sort of half explained it by the fact that the year he won for that song, he did not show up. He did not perform it, but there was no through line to like, well, seventeen years later, let's get him in there.

It's a good performance though. I thought he thought it had a lot of energy. Um. I like seeing him with brown hair and a beard and a beard down beard. He's found natural guys. Let me see Harris, Sarah Stanislav Adina Menzel pronounced it like it's spelled Josh Gadd as a gym. That was a funny jab. Josh Gadd had a sort of Travolta joke because Travolta very famously called her Adele desim I think or something like. That's right, Okay, I couldn't remember what completely made up a name that's

not even clothes. Diana Menzel, who uh sang for a Frozen song? Who also she's also great and uncut gems Oh wait is she the wife? Holy sh it, God, she was fantastic with the same people. Yeah, man, I've had enough of Frozen though in my house it's been can you have too much frozen? Yes, okay, that's where we're at. And and Ruby was late to it all. She didn't get into frozen to like five months ago. But it's been five months of nothing but lucky. Those

are good songs though. Yeah, I've said it before, just too much, Christi Scott, we are so diverse foreign language whence top prize? No English lights off? That's the moment when they drink off. Let me see here, Let's do a couple of more. Kate Bryson, one of our old pal, says, I guess it is true. Nobody wins and divorce except the lawyers get it. They're very clever or during is uh. And she even went on to say Laura durn getting the oscar for marriage story, I got it, Kate, I

don't need to explain it. There's some that we did have to have explained. That's true. I'm just kidding. Uh, Aaron Snell, all right, here's uh, here's Ramsey's favorite artists subjective comparing it. It's pointless, don't yuck. Someone's yam Well said, I know you didn't write that, Ramsey. I'm saying that you would agree with that statement about giving awards and are being subjective. Sorry, you looked very confused. No, I didn't.

I was trying to figure out if it was like referring to a specific moment or not award shows period or bullshit. Some people say I used to love this stuff. We we like to say they're bullshit until a film we like when you know that's exactly it, you know, and actors like to say that it's really bullshit, like oh, I'm nominated yea, Then then don't go to the awards and just say ship it to my agent. Yeah, I

don't even want to see it. It was pretty funny when they announced the nominees for Supporting Actor and Pesci wasn't even there and they just had his picture up. It's like, good for you, Pashi, you don't give a ship. Oh he wasn't there. No where did I see him? Then? Golden globs. I guess I think he was at one of them. I saw him in the audience. I do say, don't yu yuck someone's yum quite a bit, yeah, especially

my daughter. Yeah, but we did some yuck enough some yams here today, but all in good fun, all on good fun. Any other closing thoughts on the Oscars. Guys, can they get it right next year? For God's sakes, can they just be normal about inclusivity. That's what Emily and I kept saying, just be normal. What would that look like though? Just I think not being like, not setting what feels like obvious quotas. It just feels like tokenism. We didn't win an award, but boy, look at all

these people of color. It feels like performative inclusivity. Yeah. Like if if if the quote unquote market deemed that inclusivity was bad, they would immediately say no inclusivity, you know, yeah, that's it feels reactive instead of just you wouldn't have to make such a big show if you were just inclusive to begin with. Yeah, and I think it's it's honestly going to take time. No, that's the deal. You're right, it's gonna take time. I mean, you're probably being unfair,

you know. It's it's you know, it's it'll be better next year hopefully. But we said that last year, we said that the year before. I mean, but this is four years after Oscar so White. Yeah, that's what they're just so late to this. They're like, oh, inclusivity is good. Yeah, yeah, well, let's do it then. Is that what the people want? Where have you been? Think Green Book one past year or so? God, but then Moonlight one a couple of years ago. Now it's map it really is. Whip Lash

one quite a few years ago. Did it win? Not Best Picture? It's a good movie. It was great, big fan. I loved it. All right. That's it for the Oscars this year. Everyone. Sorry, Emily and I didn't do a drunken special. It's just didn't really speak to us this year. Maybe we'll get back in the in the driver's seat next year. But thanks for stepping in here, happy to do it, and just gonna give a quick shout out

to upcoming movies. Right before I walked in here, I saw the first trailer for The French Dispatch, which is Wes Anderson's Wes Anderson's new movie coming out in July, and the trailer just dropped. So if you like, uh, Wes Anderson, like Timothy shallow Man, and by the time this comes out, which will be next Monday or this coming Monday, we'll have seen Parasite awesome. Nice so we can chat about it on the facebooks. Yeah, I would like to say Paul. Next time you do a movie crush,

you choose Fast and Furious or a Transformers movie. M did be a couple of director one of that's she should I would probably do Sorry, put You in the Spot. I would probably do Tokyo Drift, and then for Transformers, I would do the first Michael bay one or can we count the Bumblebee movie? That was great. I did not like it like it? You know what? It really good? You know what it felt like? What it felt exactly

likesm performative, performative, wokeness. Finally got Bumblebee, right, man? I think the first one got Bumblebee of it like a girl, not necessarily wokeness. You know what it felt like it It felt like it felt like a script that was written by an algorithm that was like, we gotta get all these things in there, like a robot, a Irish that can transform into a writer. Yeah, it took me a second, I gotcha, I gotcha. All right, Well, let's I think it's great to finish on a bad dad joke.

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