Anney on Thor: Ragnarok

visit my mom. We did like a two week quarantine thing, so I was still recording, but I was like in a weird space and I wasn't sure how good the audio quality would have been. Okay, I got you. So you're back in the in the regular rotation now, yes, yes, back in the closet cosplay closet. How's it going. It's going pretty well, to be honest. I stayed up really late, uh playing Dungeons and Dragons, and I watched this movie, so I'm feeling a little loopy, so it's gonna be

really fun. I wait, are you up? Annie? Oh? It must have been two or three gasy kids. Remember the last time I stayed up that late? You know? My uh my line with Emily is um, she'll well, you know, for having a little fun having a couple of drinks. She's like, I'll laid you up, and I always go, I'm a midnight man. So that's that's kind of my jam. I try to stay until midnight every night. Oh so purposefully stay up until midnight. Yeah, I mean if something's

going on. If if not, then you know, I can be asleep by ten o'clock. Is that okay? So it's not like a sleep like I'm going to stay up till midnight every night. No. But if if we're doing something we're having a good time, if it's like a Friday night and we're listening to music on the deck or something and having some wine, I'm a midnight man. That's that's wild times when you're forty nine years old, Annie, you need to get a jacket that says that on

the back and then just like use your thumbs. Who's got two thumbs and stays up till midnight? Sometimes I want that so badly for you. What time did you get up? Um? Like seven? I can't really sleep past seven, I'm not, so you're running on little sleep, yes, but I did have a lot of caffeine. So now or at an interesting juncture energy level wise, Yeah, I'm back on the caffeine now. I'm a seasonal coffee drinker, so when the weather turns, I dive into the lattees. So

I had my first one today since um geez last winter. Wow, you're also a latte man. I'm learning a lot about you. I am, and I dive in hard, like I have no caffeine in my life, and then all of a sudden that I can't have a four shot latte is what I do. So it's sort of like, uh, imagine what doing a line of cocaine must be. Like, Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, because I get like, if I don't have caffeine, I'll get a caffeine headache. Yeah yeah, but

I try to. I only have like two drinks to coffee a day, but I can't imagine going from zero to four. Yeah, that's how I'm a midnight man an that's what I do. Oh, I didn't know this is what a midnight man and contest with four shots in them. Yeah, you really are living on the wild side. So you are back to talk about a movie, A little movie, little indie, little independent film, yes, romantic independent drama called

thor ragnar Rock. You know that's interesting you say that because it was I mean, at the time, Tako Titi had only done uh independent films, and it was interesting reading his experiences from those compared to this um In case people don't know, he did direct this film, that's right. And also I was trying to put it like genre wise how I would describe it, and it's like a buddy buddy movie comedy that's also like the family drama.

Yeah it is. There's a lot of you know, there's some pretty deep feels going on in this movie on the family side. Yeah, brothers, sisters, dads. M hmmmmmm. I do love thinking about and I know I've seen this mean before, but essentially tho' is like that athletic, upbeat optimists in a family of like emo drama queens. Yeah, yeah for sure. And boy Chris Hemsworth U two comments on him? Not fair for him to be that funny, Yeah, absolutely,

and look like he looks and to uh those goddamn arms. Yes, God, I can't even take it. I oh, I can't either. I remember very clearly seeing this the first time and laughing riotously throughout it. But at one point, like my friend and I turned and looked at each other. We were just like those arms. No Emily kept saying that this last sight. She was like, are those fake? Are those like built up? And I was like, well, I mean no, I said, he gets in Thor shape for

these movies. And then clearly before they roll a camera, he's got a bar, a dumbbell nearby and sort of you know, just pumps them up before they actually call action because you know they're vainy and ready to roll at all times. Just I mean, I can't imagine anyone else playing four just the most if it casting ever, Yeah,

it's He's spectacular in that role. And this was definitely the first movie that I liked Thor, Like I loved Thor in this so previously I'd kind of been like, m M yeah, um, because the first movie wasn't that great.

It was, yeah, it was fine. I actually didn't see it, and so I think after the Avengers for sure, and then the second one was yeah fine, um, But this one, I mean clearly it's my second favorite m c U. The second one, Oh, that's a dark world where there's like dark elves and Loki pretends to die at the Loki Loky such a great character though, right, I know he'd be so fun to play. I do love in this one where Thora has Thora has a great character arc in this and I feel like he grows a lot.

And at the end he's like, you know what, Loki, I wanted one thing, but it's just it's not right for you. Kind of comes to an understanding of what Loki just is most core. Yeah, I mean, how many times can you be sucked into Loki's tricks? Tricks? The great Tom Hittleston, He's so good in that role, and you know every time he comes on screen, he's just one of those characters that you hate him, but you also kind of love him just because there's a charm about him. Uh, And I guess there kind of has

to be. He can't be such a sort of black and white character that you just hate him because you know he's just gonna suck everything up for everybody all alway, so you gotta like him a little bit. Well. Yeah, and that's one thing that I mean, maybe it backfired or maybe it didn't, but people up until this one, I would say, preferred Loki hands down to four And like they preferred his storyline certainly, if I'm going by the costumes I've seen at Dragon Conyeah, Loki is consistently

one of the top costumes there. Yeah, and I think maybe this is just a reality check. It's a lot easier to cosplay Loki. Like, no one wants to see Skinny four or Fat four, although I do love the Fat foor in uh in the Avengers movies. But no one wants to see me dressing up as Thor. You gotta you gotta have those arms, you know. There are very few dudes who can pull that off. I actually, a couple of years ago I went as Hella because I guess I'm always going to do movie crush on

someone i've cosplayed. Um, And my friend went as Thor and he looked he was a great four. And one of my favorite parts of it was there was this big group of people cosplaying, like um, the Hulk supporters, uh and they were just follows around chanting Hulk. Oh. So they had like the little the signs and the fake ulkheads and stuff. Yes, it was awesome, and we missed Dragon this year. I'm sure that was especially sad

for you. Yeah, but I did, like me and a bunch of friends did like a we still cosplate and we did what we could. Um, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have the how did you do that headpiece for Hella? Oh okay, So I didn't do it. Um, it's c G I in the movie. So I used it. It's my justification. Yeah, it's not real. But somebody did do it, and it was amazing. I kept worrying about, like, if I tried it, I was afraid I would get my spatial Yeah. Yeah, you're gonna take someone's eye out. Yeah.

I was a little concerned about that, and also hats off to that person because I thought about how I would do it and it just got so complicated. Could you tell how they made it? Was it like three D printed or was it it was it looked yeah, it might have been three D printed. It had a gloss to it that I don't normally associate with three D and saying but I'm sure that's possible. That would have to be a big printer though, because that's a

big headpiece and it really steals the show of that character. Uh. It just looks so badass. And Emily watched most of this with me last night, and her deal with the Marvel movies is she really enjoys them when when she watches them with me, but she's not I wouldn't say that she's like a fan of the universe, but I almost catch her enjoying them because she's normally not into this. She's normally into very small independent films and stuff like that.

But she was enjoying it. I was like, you're gonna like thor Ragnaroka said, it's a really fun movie. And early on she was like, is it Is it supposed to be this funny? I said, yes, it is a it's a comedy essentially. It's hilarious. I think it's the funniest MC movie, but I can I've seen it several times and I was laughing last night when I was watching it um and I watched it with my mom and it was a wonderful experience because you was just dying the whole time. And she kept calling it thoracic.

I have no idea why. I don't know the crossover we need? Yeah, totally, Oh wow, that's funny. So she watched it with you last night. We actually did a virtual we did a viewing uh a week ago. I I rewatched it um because I was like, I'm gonna be so prepared for this movie. Crush um. But yeah, yeah, she and she's kind of the same. She likes Marvel movies,

but she definitely hasn't seen them all. And I actually really loved when she saw uh, Infinity War, and I was just kind of like, well, how was that for you? I mean, did you understand it? And she she explained the plot in a way that she understood it, and it made me laugh so much. I was like, well, you know, if you liked it, yeah, that's great. Yeah, we need to bite those off. I've of course seen them. Emily hasn't. Uh, she sees sporadic when she's seen a

couple of the Avengers ones. She loved Black Panther and I'm trying to think of which other ones she's seen. I think she saw at least two of the Iron Man movies. So she likes them and we'll we'll see them, and you know, when we were going to movie, she would go see some of them with me, but she's not dedicated. I usually have to kind of explain who some of the people are for her to fully get it.

But she's down and she wants to see I told her, I was like, you gotta see, you know, the two final Avengers movies at the very least, and it's it's a very rich world, and I think she needs to see Captain Marvel as a setup for that one. She'seen Black Panther and maybe the first Guardians of the Galaxy and then that's probably enough of a primer. I don't think she has to see all of them to see

those last two. I when the last one came out, I had a bunch of friends who were kind of like, you know, Light Marvel Light fans, and they asked me, like, make a list timeline wise, how should I watch them, like mark which ones are the most important, and then which ones she would like but are okay to skip, and then which ones I should just skip? And I still have it. And it was a fun thought exercise of like, Okay, I mean, what do you really get

out of this movie that you need? Yeah, I mean you can if I was going to really make a list for her, like I could explain who aunt Man is without her having to see that movie as far as getting it and the Avengers, because I thought aunt Man was fun enough. But I mean, Paul Read is great and everything, so it's no slag against him, but I would say that's like lesser Marvel. Yeah, it's it's hard as a fan because I'm like, you have to see this, but like when you reduce it to okay,

what can I just tell you? Because Aunt Man in the Wasp as that like critical post credit scene. It's when aunt Man goes into the quantum realm and then as he's in there, like they all get snap apped, like the Wasp and her dad or parents. Yeah, that's pretty key stuck in there, and that's how they get the time travel theory thing going, right, because he gets back out and it's like I have an idea, right, right,

right right. And then there's Doctor Strange. I kind of forgot about that because she was asking who Cumberbatch was. I said, oh, he's Doctor Strange. I said that was actually a pretty fun movie too. Yeah. I enjoyed that that first Doctor Strange movie. That was good. Yeah, I'm intrigued by They say the second one is going to be a horror movie, which I'm like, interesting, yes, very interesting. Um,

I'm excited. I'm excited to see a Marvel horror movie. Yeah, and it's it's always fun for these non Avengers movies to see who's going to pop up. Obviously, doctor Strange was in this one briefly in a very funny sequence. Yeah, I love that party. I mean he's kind of just can't be bothered. Even with these guys that are God's he still has so much power and magic to kind of control them. And and Thor was just like, will you stopped doing that? He's just sort of manipulating him.

And then when he just gets rid of Loki at the end of that scene, it's so great when Loki like throws his little knives out and he's just like, get out of here whatever. It's such slapsticks uver and that, and it as one of my favorite lines when Thor says, now, let me explain something. My hand is not to be metal with and he just pulls out Yeah that, Oh my gosh. And you get the haircut in this um yeah,

which really reinvented him. Um they were. It's clear from the get go that this movie is different in style and it's different in tone, and then they just make him like physically look different as well to like just really put down. Now this is a rebirth of Thoor. It's Thor is having his own Ragnarok and coming out as something better. Yeah, and and fully funny. And you know, Marvel has always danced around with some funny lines here and there. But Chris Hemsworth is just a really good

comedic actor as it turns out. Yeah, yeah, he is so hilarious. And according to Tycho with t T, I don't know, I'm assuming its tree. He said it. He said, this is improv I read that. I was going to ask you if you knew more about that, because that seems hard to believe in a movie like this. Yeah, and I know you probably read two. Mark Ruffalo would come up to him and be like, when are they going to come in and put the foot down here? Uh uh? But according to him, they kind of really

hands off um other than budgeting um. And they he was shocked as well that they let him do as much as they let him do. It does feel like that was during a time when Marvel was really trying to like take indie movie directors or directors who were known for smaller things and just like make this into something new and different, breathe life into this. But ill, I certainly believe that a good chunk of it was improvised. And I think that is part of what gives it this.

It always just feels really vibrant to me, like really alive, and like every the actors are just really having fun and having playing off of each other, yeah, and kind of chewing through scenery, um everyone, Like Kate Blanchett comes in and Emily was like, is that Kate Blanchett? I said, funk, Yeah it is. She was like, that is so awesome that they cast this fifty fifty fifty one year old woman.

I guess at the time she may have been forty eight or forty nine, just very against Hollywood rationale to have, you know, a woman of a certain age in a movie like this playing such a badass. And it's like, man, you know, she's the queen. She was Queen Elizabeth, Like she's the queen in this, Like she can she can do anything. Oh Like immediately when she steps out, you're like, oh god, yea, and then she has that tone of just like derision. Yeah, but it's like it's dripping with derision.

But also it's funny too. She's so uninterested, she's so above all of this, and when she just immediately establishes oh yeah, I'll break your hammer. That's fine. Oh boy, that scene was so powerful because boy, Thorge hammer is such a It's my favorite Marvel weapon, like right neck and neck with that shield from cap But I think I gotta go with that hammer because it's played for badassory and for laughs in a lot of movies when like no one can pick it up and stuff like that.

Um So I think it's meant my favorite weapon, and it means so much to this franchise, in this character, and to see her break it like that was just like, yeah, I was sad. Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was watching it, like why am I getting emotionally? Why am I having these feelings from that hammer? And and uh tyco a TT's character Corg, oh god, wonderfully he comments on it. It's like he sounds like he had a special relationship with this hammer and losing it

was the equivalent of losing a loved one. And you're like, yeah, amen, Amen, I've got some of his lines in here. I always do the smaller fights, you know, warm up the crowd and whatnot. I love his like whole a bit about the pamphlet, like oh my mom's boyfriend who I hate, and now that's such a great line, hating your mom's boyfriend. So funny. Yes, and then when Loki was in there and he just bounds in piss off ghost. Yes, that was one of my favorite lines of the whole thing too.

I love it. It's great. But you know, you hire a Tayco with t t and you let him do his thing. It was a very smart hire to breathe life into, especially the thour part of the franchise and the m c U that, like you said, I think you know that first movie was okay, the Dark World was good, but like they weren't this like this movie. Yeah, look like the color even the poster kind of showed you what you were getting into, those vibrant greens and oranges and reds, and it was just it just like

exploded off the screen in all these surprising ways. It was so much fun. Yeah. Yeah, And when I think about four, like, if you look at his past movies, he was almost like always he wasn't a hero by choice. He just like the first one is all about him being basically a prooflged brat who he still promised the

throne he never had to fight for it. Almost every time when he does his heroic acts before this, he's doing it because his girlfriend is in danger, he's van at his brother Or, But this one he had to choose to like fight for the throne, to face these things, to be a leader come back for his people. What does that mean? And it humanizes him even more, which

is interesting because he's not human. So I feel like there was always kind of this layer of we couldn't really relate to Thor, we couldn't really root to him, root for him as much as we could other ngers. But in this one, Um, yeah, you he's he's just so fun to watch, so relatable, and you're really rooting for him. And he feels sad when he loses his hammer and when he loses his eye, like these things.

And I do think it's also interesting that whole the narrative of how his dad got all of this stuff and how then he hit it, and then Thor having to face that and accept that and having that family dynamic playing on top of that. Yeah, you know I did all that stuff, Annie, why because that's what he rose to such a great line of the face. Yeah, I mean it's interesting and I really thought about that. There was a distance there as a god, and he

brought a humanity this time that wasn't there before. That made it much more relatable, much more fun, and he emerged. It made those last Avengers movies better for this, I think absolutely. Um. When I saw Infinity War the first time, probably one of the biggest cheers of the crowd was when Thor shows up in the battle. Yeah, and I don't think that would have been the case for Thor. Yeah. Yeah, You're like, oh, he's got this awesome weapon and now

he knows how to use his powers better. Um. I love what his dad says that, what are you the god of hammers? Right now? That's a great line actually, because that was Losing the hammer was a big deal, but it was symbolic of and you know, we're glad he gets his hammer back. But it almost needed to happen for him to grow as a character. I think, yeah, yeah, he was too dependent on it, and when he proved himself worthy of that, and what more is there? We

had to prove himself worthy of the throne of those powers. Yeah, and the umbrella just wasn't a substitute. That's a great you just hear the glass breaking and then I mean there were so many little bitty comic moments, like when he when the umbrella finally came after all that and he just kind of tinkles the glass off of the top of it. Yeah, he just kind of wiped it down. I love what he says, Uh, well, you don't have a phone. Well you could have set me on electronic letter.

It's called email. Do you have a computer? Know what? For the rest of the cast too, I mean it's um you get a little cameo from Black Widow. It was kind of nice to see her. Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie was so badass and so much fun as this hard drinking that one great one. She's like, you know, I listened to you as long as it takes me to drink this and it's just gone. And you know Thork is someone who can put it. Put away the beer obviously with that huge mug, but uh yeah, I

thought it was interesting to make her a boozer. Um and the Valkyriees. God, that one's that one brief kind of sequence where it shows the Valkyrie attack was so cool looking. I just wanted more of that. Yeah, that that was visually stunning and just sets it apart from

the rest of the movie. And I do like how they did that because clearly she's struggling with PTSD and to just have this memory and kind of like very um, almost black and white but not but also very like contrasting and slowed down and the owned as sort of numb. That was a great portrayal of like a really bad memory. Yeah, and how you would try to forget it but just couldn't.

Like the stark details are there? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And and and like you said, visually it kind of uh it looked different than the rest of the movie, the color palette and that that slow motion, and I just like, I want to see a movie about the Valkyrie now, you know, Yes, I think they are going to do that. Are they pretty sure? Yeah? Yeah? There's the Pegasus, Like is there any cooler Yeah, any cooler beast? Yeah. Yeah. We also get Carl Urban as the executioner Scurge. Yeah,

he's so good. Yeah. And and just like everyone like has a chance to sort of just chew up the scenery and but there's still a balance to it, like everyone is allowed to steal the show, which is kind of an actor's dream. I think. Yeah, him with that shake weight is one of my favorite favorite things. The shake Weight, which apparently it was Taiko with t TS. He just had it. Yeah, yeah, he said he bought

it for Green Lantern. Um. Oh interesting. Yeah, so he just had the shake Weight and was like, was he in Green Lantern. I can't remember if he was in it or if he was involved in the writing of it. Interesting. Yeah, I never saw that one. I didn't either, and it doesn't sound like we were missing anything, but maybe we should give it a fair shake, Like the shake Weight, I don't know, it was supposed to be pretty bad.

Um those DC movies and you know now that I'm thinking, actually it's not an m c U weapon but Thori's hammer, but Wonder Woman's rope or lasso that that that's probably a three way tie with cap cap shield and Thor's hammer is my favorite weapons. Yeah. Yeah. I also like her a little gauntless and how she just deflects all those bullets coming her way. Yeah. When an't we going to get that movie? Oh? I don't know. I mean it's done right, I mean it's supposed to come out

in the summer, right. Yeah. It actually looks kind of visually like Thor Ragnaro the eighties. I mean it, so that makes sense. Um. Yeah. And that's something else that's interesting about this movie. Like the soundtrack is great. It's very like Cynthia eighties. Yeah, and then you know, maybe one of the best music cues of all time, so so good they use it twice. I was like, the birthday song, My god, it's so well done. In fact,

I got a uh. I announced on the movie Crushers page that we were doing this episode and people are very excited by the way, And this is what one dude said, I did a screen cap. He's this is from Jonathan Zipanski, one of our old pals. He said, best use of Zeppelin in a movie ever. It's like Plant and Company sat down one day and said, gentlemen, in the future, they will make a movie, and in that movie, they will need a song, for it was foretold whosoever holds right the song, if they be worthy,

shall score the power of thor. It does seem like kind of like it was made for this film. It's interesting. Yeah, and it's funny because I know Jack Black semi jokingly was like, hey, I did this in School of Rock back off, but apparently again, Um, psycho a t t uh. He did a sizzle He did like a sizzle reel when he was he was with twenty director, just trying to get this job, and he used that song in it and they were like, immediately, yes, I gotta get

the rights. Yeah, it's just I mean, it's one of the great Zeppelin songs anyway, and it just it works so perfect becuse Zeppelin also had that sort of Nordic uh valkyrie esque thing going on back then, so it just all fit. Yeah, like a glove. Um. Did you hear this thing about the Make a Wish? Yeah? Yeah, Oh absolutely, I never knew that story. That's amazing. Yeah, and it makes you enjoy the line even more. Yes,

so tell everyone I want to hear your take on it. So. Um. While they were filming this movie, a child from Make a Wish his wish to visit and he and Chris Tims were for talking and they were talking about the scene and it's the scene when the big battle between the Hulk and Thor and the kids said, well, you should say like, he's a friend from l one of the best lines in the movie. He's a friend from work. Yes, Oh,

it's so great. Love it and the and that it was open enough for them to use it, and like they gave this kid credit and just I mean talk about like the make a Wish thing period, Just I can hardly talk about it without crying. So the fact that this kid gets to visit the set is just amazing. And then he gets a line like one of the great lines in this movie. It's like such a like

cherry on top of that whole experience. Yeah, and I love how they talked about it too, or They're like, we couldn't have written something funnier than that, Yeah, so we had to keep it. I love it, so so cool. Yeah, So rounding out the cast to you also have just a little small role of grand Master from Jeff gold Yes.

Was that so perfect? So perfect? And I love he's like the He's a wonderful balance of sort of like I mean really evil, really bad, but just like how he gets grossed out by the goog of the person, he just disintegrated. I'm standing in it. He's just so eccentric and it's so gold like Pete old Bloom. I love that they just let him do his thing. Like at this point when you put Jeff Goldblum in a movie you're just you're almost hiring an archetype of this guy. Um,

and I can't get enough of it. He I loved that one line he says when he goes, h, I didn't hear any thunder but out of your fingers? Was that like sparkles, which is true, Like I never really thought about it, but you really don't hear thunder? Yeah, Mr Thor's doing his powers. But and Emily kept talking about how like how much fun it would have must have been for gold Bloom and Kate Blanchett, who usually don't do these kind of movies, And I said, I'm

sure that they just had a blast. And just to see yourself on screen is that big hologram or her uh in that outfit with the headpiece, Like, I'm sure they had a lot of fun doing this this kind of movie. Yeah, it felt like and I know that on every movie Crush I've been on, I feel like this comes up. But I feel like you can tell when the actors are having fun, and like just the

whole set felt like a fun set. And it did really feel like, Oh, Kate Blanchett is having the time of her life right now, Like Jeff goldbloom full gold blooming is my friend likes to say, um, and then those Yeah, he's got like those streaks he's in that like gold Robe so perfect. Yeah, he's so great. A couple of smaller cameos too, before we round out in

the main cast, Um Matt Damon and a funny little part. Yes, my friends didn't believe me that that was him, and I'm like, nope, who was playing Thor in that scene? Liam Himsworth? Oh was it okay? I couldn't. I was like, I know that face and I meant to look it up. So all right, that's that's pretty funny. Actually I didn't realize that that was Liam m all right, I'll have

to tell Emily that. And then Sam Neil, Yes, it kind of sneaks in there in a small little cameo too, Yes, as Odin, and this is very dramatic play about Loki's life that from what I understand, it happens every day and he watches it every day as Odin, Oh my gosh.

And then in the main cast, of course, I think we've been through everyone except for obviously the great Mark Ruffalo as Hulk and uh, and then we can't not talk about Idris Elba, who shows up in a really pivotal scene, like he's really uh he comes in at a very important time in the movie and and means a lot to the outcome. Yeah, and it makes what happened. I mean, this whole movie is so fun. And then when you know how Infinity War starts, like that's just

kind of looming over. Despite have been the first time I've rewatched it since Infinity Wary it is for me and I just kept thinking of like, oh, oh no, um. But yeah, he's just this powerful, badass character. He's kind of like, while Thor isn't on asgard he is the person who's the leader, he's guarding the people. He's like when Thor doesn't know what to do, he's immediately like do this, I know what to do. Yeah, you go

through the Devil Danis. Obviously I didn't know what was called that when I when I well, it has such impact at the end too, with the and they say the line a couple of times at asgard Is is the people. It's not a place, and it's very bitter sweet to see it being destroyed. It was really sad. Yeah, but also you know they did save those people, and it was hopeful, uh and just um it was able to bring the fields and what was a really funny

movie kind of in a pretty profound way at the end. Yeah, and having to make that choice to that kind of painful choice as a leader that uh, yeah, we're gonna lose our our home, our home world, but we have to have to save the people. Um. I also heard that a very prominent protester in Hong Kong used that for Hong Kong is in a place, it's a people. Yeah, and he was saying, like from thora and I just thought, yeah, this is it's powerful. Um. And you know he starts

the movie just trying to prevent it. That's his number one thing. Yeah, and to have it kind of subverted of you think victory is this, but actually you need to change your perspective, which when he loses the eyes interesting that Yeah, he's kind of he's lost that, but

he's gaining this for sspective and becoming more like his father. Yeah, and like you know, it might be a little on the nose, but more able to see even more even though he has the one I and there there are a lot of great, you know, little mini character arcs too, including Carl Urban, like his sacrifice at the end, Like this is a character that you really grow to love pretty quickly, and he does the right thing and it's, uh man, when he leaps off at the end, that's

that's fucking tough stuff. Yeah, and you it's he did such a great job because you can see it playing out on his face when he's on the ship. He's pretending to be a refugee. He's looking at everyone else. He knows he played a role in this, and then he makes that decision with death and Stroy and uh yeah, he leaps off. And it's great that that so many of these smaller characters did have those arcs. Are are just even characters that weren't the primary um and I

have to say for it, like the Hulk too. Avengers definitely. I didn't like the Hulk really before Avengers and Avengers definitely warmed me up to him, but then this one was like, well, you've like, I love thorn Out and I love the Hulk now, so congrats. Yeah it was.

It was kind of uh more impactful than I would have imagined to see Hulk stuck as Hulk because so much of that character is the is the banner part U of the equation also with Hulk, like we love Hulk Smash, but we and and you know, that's the whole the whole point of the whole character is this this big dumb smasher and this really really brilliant scientist who it kind of almost hates this and has to accept this other part of himself because part of the

that Avengers I'm not sure which one it was, but the one where he was trying not to turn into Hulk for most of the movie. Yeah, yeah, and then they really played that up, but to see him stuck in Hulk mode for years was kind of tough. Yeah. And I love how in a weird way he was humanized too, because at first he is like, yeah, this big smasher um, but then he and Thork kind of have to sort out their friendship issues when their roommies. Yeah.

I love that sequence, the odd couple sequence spaces. Yes, I love it so much. You're being a really bad band. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. And that set was so cool looking to like that. The costume design and the set design in this movie was just ridiculous. Yeah, And and Thor even comments on it where he's like red pick of color just I love it. Um. And when he sees black widow too, that's such a Yeah.

That was tough, Yeah, because you kind of forget. It's because these movies there's such a long time in between them often. Yeah that, yeah, you can sort of forgo whereas the whole been right and what about these relationships like Banner has and he's on this essentially kind of trash planet yeah, um fighting and might forever be stuck that way um. And then for him to come out of it because he saw a black widow and then

realize it's been years. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, that was That was tough because you need that character needs both both

sides of the equation for it to fully work. And also the way, like you said, being on this trash planet, it was like, you know, it reminded me of I mean, obviously the it was evoking like the Gladiators and stuff, but I kept thinking of just like dog fighting and how awful that is and to imprison these people and make them fight for show and for sport, and it's something they've done in a lot of movies, everything from Escape from New York to to Thunderdome and mad Max

and it's kind of a trophy thing, but it really works in this Uh it's there's a lot of emotion. Even though corg is really funny. Um, there's a lot of emotion behind the fact that they're imprisoned in sort of fighting for sport. It's tough to see, yeah, and it makes you, as an audience member feel kind of strange because you're like, well, here, I am enjoying this fight between for and a Hulk, even though it was a great fight. Oh it was, but I want I

wanted them. I wanted to Hulk to come out of it. I wanted like them to just bake up and he just hugged herself. Everybody, no, you did. But it's still a badass fight. I mean you kind of you can't put those two in in a fighting ring and not kind of have it go down like it did. Yeah, a lot of fun to watch. Even though you don't want to see them beating up on each other, they still managed to play it for laughs at times. Uh oh, Yeah. I love how Thor is like, uh, oh, don't worry better,

I'll get you out. And then later when he asked like who won the fight, and Thor was like, I did, that doesn't sound right well, and he also plays for comedy. The when Hulk is around, he's like, oh, Banner, I don't like that guy with all the like the egghead stuff. And then when no, no, like like you much better

than Hulk. Yes, but if I'm being honest, Um, and I was thinking one of my favorite shots and I've never really understood why it is, but when like Thor has pretty much won the fight and he's had that flashback that the whole movie is hinting at, or not flashback, but like um conversation with his father and he's about to win, and then the Grandmasters apps him. The Hulk jumps in the air and you see Valkyrie and she's like finished your alcohol, and there had been this hope

but now it's gone. And she gets up before the fights even over, and she turns and you see the Hulk behind her, just in all those lights, and you hear the audience cheering. I've always loved that shot, and I was thinking about it, and I think it's without me ever really picking up on, it's really powerful, saying like her emotional state where she's just I'm not even gonna stay to finish this, I'm going to turn away. The climactic end of the battle, Um, she just gets

up and it's like nope, all right. Yeah yeah. I thought that was interesting the way they played that too. And that sequence is pretty long. I mean, the fight sequence has a lot of it's almost like a little mini movie inside itself with sort of the ups and downs and uh. And the way they play that it was very Um. I felt like it was one of the most comic bookie parts of a movie that was more comic bookie than a lot of Marvel movies. Like I think marvels at its best when it feels most

like a comic book. Yeah, either visually or just even the way they framed certain shots. And I thought this movie was a really kind of true to the comic book origins of the whole thing. Yeah, and and the color scheme I felt really helped with that. And these really well thought out, well drawn, well designed characters. They all felt something they did a great job of. They both felt very comic bookie and like over the top, but still you could relate to them yeah, um yeah yeah.

And it's the visual style definitely to me felt very comic bookie. I have a bunch of just kind of random scenes jotted down, which I'm sure you do. When when Hala wipes out that whole army, yeah, by herself, that was pretty badass. Yeah, and I love she gives like that speech and what the guy I wish I could remember his name of the guy in front is like whoever you are, and she's like, whoever I am.

And then she has this moment of almost like real sadness where she says, I thought you'd be happy to see me, um. And it's just this disconnect where she's been imprisoned for so long and when she was in prison, like they were still like doing these violent conquests and taking over and then she comes out and the world has changed and that's not sanctioned anymore. That's not what they want anymore. And to be rejected like you know, she's a terrible villain and like, I mean, she's a

bad person, but in that moment, you're like um. And then later when Thor is like almost apologizes to heart, you know, my our dad promised me the throne too. Um. Yeah, I think it was. It was a lot more impactful because she was family. Uh, and I think you know, the best villains aren't one note. The best villains are

the ones that that you do feel for at times. Um. I mean, I guess there have been some pretty decent villains were that were just nothing but evil, But the best ones in the best characters period are always nuanced and layered. And I think it was smart to kind of follow that here because there are there were times in this movie where you sort of got where she

was coming from a little bit. Yeah. Um, I mean certainly, like when she's going with Scourge and she's showing like all the murals underneath of her past and like that essentially that it got erased because they didn't like it anymore. It wasn't palatable anymore, and she got imprisoned for it, like she was wrong and violent, but you can see like it wasn't that she was doing that by herself, and then what God her imprisoned was not necessarily that.

It was that her ambition outgrew and her power outgrew Odin's and so he locked her away. Yeah. Um, And you can feel that like rage and resentment because it is family does have that like personally are too right, Yeah, And you know, I think Marvel does such a good job at these multifaceted villains, more so than a lot of franchises. Obviously with with what's his face with the snap, I'm totally go Thanos. You know Thanos. There were times in those movies where you're like Thanos, he's kind of

trying to do the right thing by the earth. Maybe, uh if you look at um, what was the other one I was just thinking of, Oh, kill Monger is a good one who kill Longer from Black Panther? Oh yeah, that's what exactly was that was Michael B. Jordan's character. Yeah, yeah, exactly. These nuanced sort of villains that, um, that have their reasons for doing things. There are very few in the Marble universe that are just sort of evil full stop. Yeah, and that's it makes for a great story. And Hella,

I mean I immediately loved her as a character. Um and like when she's going through that vault and she's like big just judging, Yeah, I mean it it was. It was great because you could and it was also wonderful that, yes, it was an older woman in this role and she just felt so you could relate to her and she was badass and scary, Like I really was like, how are they going to beat her? They

got to destroy their whole world to defeat her. Yeah, I mean because he I mean he was getting his ass kicked, and this is Thor and he was kind of like the whole first half of the movie, he's getting his ass kick kind of over and over and over. Was kind of funny. But yeah, at the end, it was like, you know, this character as a god and so powerful and he's and it's still not working. Yeah.

And also when you've got the Hulk on your team, and the Hulk is like what you bring out, you know, the last resort when you got both of them together, and as a viewer, I'm still watching it like I don't know how they're going to win this one. Yeah. Uh, that's and in some ways they had to do that or you wouldn't be invested. But it was a difficult thing to pull off, and I think they really did. Yeah. It's sort of that. Um always my gripe with the other Matrix movies after the first one was one of

my gripes. I had plenty of gripes, but was um Neo and uh, the other guy, what was his name? Smith? Yeah, they were both all powerful and there's no stakes that way, Like their fights were just sort of there wasn't and I never felt like anything was on the line because it was these to you know, superpowers basically fighting each other. And that that's where you sort of risk in a movie like this, you know, Thor and Hella fighting each other, Like how do you make how do you give that stakes?

And you do it by making one a little bit more powerful than the other, uh or maybe in this case a lot more powerful, such that this god is truly threatened for the first time. And the dynamic that I'm so impressed with sort of the way that her power comes from the planet, so it's like almost a hostage situation or something where you can't attack her. She's going to grow more powerful the more you take care of this planet that you care about, that you love.

And then on top of that, he's lost his hammer. Um, so yeah, you've already put um just storyline wise, I have so much respect for the thought that went into how are we going to really get p full invested in this? Yeah, and they had those two dynamics playing um and then the Hulk is fighting this huge wolf. Oh yeah, that's a great moment when Hulk or when Banner falls through and uh, you don't see him become Hulk, you just see that dog being dragged. Yeah, that was awesome.

The other thing that does too with with the Thor rather is, um, you get those great moments where he where the where the lightning comes and his eyes light up and uh, and that's when he you know, he kicks it up to that next level, which is I just got chills right now. It's just those are a couple of really great moments in the movie. I think, Yeah, and the Immigrants song kicks in again and I love like, I love how Hella says like I am the goddess of death? What were you the god of again? Yeah?

And then you like embraces his power, has this this moment where he's like the he's coming into the frame and all this eightning is coming off of him, and I like how it goes to Loki and Loki has this like small smirk like, oh, you're done up with God, Like my brother is coming for you. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I mean Thor and Loki's relationship is so cool, like through all these movies because they're brothers and it's it's like it would Uh, Like I said, look, he's like

this this disease you just can't get rid of. He keeps popping up in all these movies, always messing everything up for everyone. But at the end of the day, they're still brothers. You know, there's that blood or whatever they have. I don't know if gods have blood, but you know they're their kin and and it matters. That's

why those scenes are so impactful. In the scene with with Thor and Odin at the end where he sort of goes to that place with him again and and that's when he tells them I think, is that when he says that Asgard is not a place, it's the people or whatever. It's just so great. Yeah, And and the relationship between Thor and Loki, like you do get to see Loki's kind of insecurity around being adopted, um, but when Odin calls him like my son's and he

has that moment. But then also just like all the comedic things to show that they did grow up together. Like I love the whole thing about Oh, when I was eight, I love snakes and you know I love snakes, and he turned into a snake and then here are like, yeah, exactly and it made you care more about their relationship because again, I mean, Loki was an interesting enough character, but I wasn't. I don't know, I didn't really buy

in too much to their relationship. But then when Infinity War starts and right away you have that loss and Loki kind of chooses Thor for the first time. Um, it did have more of an impact because they made the relationship more believable and funny. Like, yes, there's all this but ale and pain, and I feel bad that Thor keeps having to be like, well, don't kill my brother please. I know he messed up here. Yeah, but um, there was there was this brotherly that they grew up

together and they have these fun memories together. Yeah, do you care about each other? Yeah? And and like I said before, like Loki is just a character. He sort of love to hate that great moment when he's walking through the and and kind of eyeballs the tests are act there for a second. Yeah, well he did pick it up. Yeah, and that's why Thanos attacks He's coming for the Tests are Act and he knocked Thanos's glove off, right. Uh, well he did that, he did that, but it's a fake.

It's a fake, of course. I mean the Marvel universe is just so That's why it's It's just such a rich universe. And there was so much thought and consideration and care put into how they all meshed together and relate together, and and the and what appears to be to the casual m M c U Light fan to be a just a cameo and in another movie really has waight I think, um, and just the accomplishment of all these movies put together is one of the and I don't think it's hyperbolic. It's one of the great

accomplishments in movie history. I think how they all fit together so well and and in in a dramatic sense to not just a bunch of badass fun movies. Right, I agree, because if you think about, like when this started to the culmination of Endgame, yea, the amount of planning for twenty two movies, I know, to have to fit and for their I mean there's some things that

they red conned, but mostly they didn't. Um and like, yeah, an Endgame came out and you just you didn't have to be a big fan to enjoy them, but if you were, there was so much reward that they put in there um and the thora Ragnarok I think was movie UM. And it's so it was like they were meeting with the writers of Infinity War while they did this and just having it be pretty much the one that almost directly leads up to Infinity War. Yeah, it's amazing.

It also kind of gives me a headache. I'm very impressed. I know it is. It's a lot too. It's intimidating what they accomplished and um, and like you said, there's if you're a light viewer, there's you can watch them on that level, but there is such a reward if you really want to go deeper. Um. At some point, I probably am going to do some sort of full marathon, even though I've seen all of these at least twice. I might do sort of an in order thing just to kind of try and drink it all in because

there are parts that I still get confused about. Um, with the main storyline, I should send you my list, Yeah, yeah, send it to me for sure that Annie will will post it on the movie crushers age. Yeah, and then we'll see if people agree with my What you have to watch and what you can and this is get a good debate going. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Another little note I have in here and he is get help. Oh I love get help that and I think, like again,

it shows that they're brothers. I love that whole scene because they're like fighting, like arguing with each other and fighting this kind of army. Just do get help. I don't want to do get help. And then it cuts to come and then the way and you know why I didn't want to do get help because he gets, you know, thrown into these people every time. Yes, yes, And I think that's become kind of a cultural like

people can say it and we know what they mean. Again, in Dungeons and Dragons my I'm the dungeon master and one of the players was like, can we do get help? And I was like yeah, immediately, yeah, exactly, And I love I love of that scene too because you think, oh, Lokey again a betrayal tricked him, but this time Thor's like one step ahead that Nope, I figured you out. And it felt really rewarding for once for Lokey to be outdone by four. He got low Key, he got

low KEI how does it fail? Another note I have in here is just the orgy ship. Yes. I love how the Tessa Thompson's delivery when she says that this is this pleasure vessel for all orgies and stuff, and then that it's my birthday song comes in fireworks go off. That is also one of my favorite shots. When you get Valkyrie who has put on her Valkyrie uniform and she's just walking so confidently when those fireworks are going

off behind her, so colorful. I have that shot, Oh, I have, I have that actually highlighted on my list. Here is one of my probably two or three favorite shots in the movie. It's that shot just so badass looking. There's the immigrant song shot earlier when when Hulk or when when Thorde jumps off and they do that great

slow motion shot from the side and uh. And then the other one was the shot at the very beginning when he is flying straight ahead with his hammer with that dragon and they do that great side shot where that dragon's mouth is kind of right behind him, and then the title card comes in and the title card

is really striking. It's really beautiful. Yeah. And and I remember watching this and I had pretty high expectations because at that point I did know Tycho with t T. I was excited, but I did have kind of like, well, thor has not really been my thing, and or by then I was like, oh, yeah, this is gonna be good. I'm gonna like this movie. Yeah. What a job he did.

I mean to, I mean to do kind of these smaller movies for the most part, and to be handed the keys to to something like this and just totally kick its ass. I mean, he's he can do anything. I know that both you and I are, you know, fully in love with this guy. But there's there's nothing he can't do. Like I can't wait, you know, to see everything for the next years that this guy does well.

And I don't know if you read any the interviews with him about this, but I found it fascinating how he said in a lot of ways, indie films were harder because you can't delicate delicate necessarily, like you have to be really involved in the budget like matters, and in this it was just interesting to so apparently Cord having that kind of blade that been as a gun, he just came up with that and then he was like, I'm sure, c G I can make that happen, and

they did. Um and just having that difference of experiences in an indie film versus a big film. And I also I thought it was really funny because there's an old tweet from him where he's someone was like, you should do a Star Wars movie. He's like, Lulls would never let me do it. I could get away with it. Now he's doing Star Wars, so he is right, Yeah, what's he doing? Do we know a movie? I don't. I don't know what it is. I just know that he's doing one. So it's gonna be like whatever, some

standalone thing. I think, So, Okay, Well, I'm sure it's gonna be great. Yeah, I I have high hopes. But I mean, I mean, and just like even him is Cork. A lot of times when a directors in their own thing, I get kind of like, mmmm, he's always fantastic though. And oh, I was so happy when Cork showed up again in game. Yeah. I mean, he's a beloved character that that that accent, there's just something about that Kiwi accent. I know, we talked about that crazy. It's so great.

There's just something about it. It's pleasing to my ear, it's endearing, it's friendly. I think he's really great because Core gonna lot of ways is like his what we do in the Shadows. There's even like a reference to it when he says like, clean up after yourself, guys, and this what do you want with this party? Fork is only good for stabbing three vampires. Yeah, so there's

it's similar in that way. But I personally love that character where a lot of the things they're telling you are really sad, but they're delivering it in this like hopeful, upbeat way because a lot of his lines are when you think about it, like oh no, yeah, there is a thing to that accent. I think are certainly the characters he plays he has. He does that very very well. Um and just a sort of instantly friendly uh like

trying to get forward and join his revolution. The way he talks about Doug, like oh yeah, Doug fund him. Oh yeah, Doug's dead. Yeah? What was his little buddy at the end that he thought was dead that he'd been carrying out But he's alive. What was your question again? Bro? I love do you ask him like, are those eggs are acts? It looks like eggs all in the exchange when he's talking about the hammer and it gets so sexual, Oh my god, I haven't pulled you off. I was

dying laughing. Yeah. Another thing I think that Marvel movies do so well, uh, and was evidenced in this again, is that last battle. They always do such a great job of editing together multiple battles playing out at the same time, and it's one of my favorite thing in Marvel movies, usually in the third act, where you have all these different storylines kind of happening at once, and

the way they keep those together is just always so satisfying. Yeah, you've got a lot of things colliding, and I think it's really good for keeping the tension up and like, you're never getting bored with one. It's odd to think, but you could certainly get bored with a battle. But um, yeah, you're get to see like the Valkyrie finally like reclaim that name, and you're getting to see the Hulk like he chose to become the Hulk in this instance to help.

And then you've got Indris elba him Deel like protecting all the people, and you've got Loki showing up with the ship and being Loki like, oh yes, you're saved, climb aboard. But then you get to see him fight and yeah, you've got Hella and Thor just with these bad as powers fighting it out. Um, it's never confusing. They always do such a good job of just sort of the nuts and bolts of making it easy to follow, yeah,

and ramping up the tension and all. It's just it's masterful and they do it so well in all their movies. And I think you can tell because it's easy to just be like, oh, it would be so cool if the Hulk and Thor fought and just make a cool fight, but they do have these emotional steaks and it is important to the story, so it makes it so much more like the tension is there, you're into it as opposed to, oh, yeah, this is a cool fight and I liked it, but it's done and I forgot about it. Yeah.

They do a great job at that, uh, and and making them just fun at the same time, which no easy feat yeah, no easy feet. And they're very consistent character wise too. It's um like the end of this movie, like Thor is now king, but he's not. They don't all of a sudden switch. I could see another movie sort of switching his character too, sort of rising to that, but he's he's still very unsure of himself. Uh, and

just it makes for such a richer character. I think that this god who is such a badass still has this sort of self deprecating quality there at the end when he's on the throne, not knowing quite how to handle that. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm glad they did that too, because he did go through this really of character arc and he had all this growth. But if they had just kind of, well, we did that, our work is done. He's totally changed, that would have worked. That would have

made invalidated the whole thing. Yeah, and you see him even into Infinity Warren endgames, struggling with well what does it mean to be a leader and what does it mean that? Like, family wise, I've just always been told I'm going to be on the throne? Should I be um? And having him still wrestle with that, it's pretty good. Yeah.

Family legacies, sibling rivalries and relationships. These are the things that make it, I think a little more than a comic book movie, and and people that disregard these as such are are wrong, They're incorrect. I agree, I'll get I'll get really defensive when people just write them off. I think I understand the criticism. I think the larger issue is like studio money and what's getting money and

what's getting advertised. I think that's a fair point. But you can't just say like, well, those movies aren't good. Clearly people like them. They're going to see them and having a wonderful time doing it, and like this is a good movie. It just is. And I know we talked about in the Winter Soldiers. Starting with that movie, Marvel movies really became superhero movie plus this so superhero

movie plus spy thriller and this one. Yeah, it was like a full on comedy, family drama, beautifully shot, beautifully like, because there's a part of me that one to be like is this sort of a western? Still? Um? But yeah, it's funny and it I mean we got emotional about a hammer, We got emotional about a hammer, and we

got a laugh out of an umbrella. Yes, yes, And I mean, oh, I just yeah, watching enjoying this with my mom and just hearing her laugh because sometimes I do get in my head like do I only love this thing? Like if I entered it and I wasn't in this space where I want to like this movie and I know all these other movies. Would I like it as much? She was laughing the whole time. She loved Italy did too. She was having a really good time.

She's like, this is so funny and so much fun I said, right, yeah, it really is just so fun that the whole thing um and when you're watching it, I don't know, it moves so seamlessly through like emotional beat to beat. That again. I've watched it like twice this week, and both times I was like still feeling that I was laughing. I was, you know, feeling in my heart because Thorne really does go through a lot um in this movie. But then when you think of

what's to come, then ascard as a whole um. To have all of those themes in this what a lot of people do dismiss it's just a superhero movie. I think it's missing a lot of the point of what they can do. They're wrong, Annie agree, they're wrong. Well, I got nothing else on my list. Did you have any other salient points? We could talk about this for hours? I know, I know, I wrote, Oh, we have to. I just have to say seductive God of Thunder. That's

one of my favorite lines. That whole sequence of like Colum Tony because he's in Iron Man's clothes. He's got the Duranduran shirt. Yeah, Bruce, Bruce, and Thor's sort of like hiding in the streets. Um. I love that whole bit. And yeah, the Hulk supporters, he's like, you'll never have to think about the Hulk again, and in the green powder in his face and orders immediately. Uh yeah, I could talk about it forever. I have a seven page outline that I did from memory. You're the best thingning,

That's why they love you. And also the Willy Wonka kind of tunnel where Thor gets introduced right before the Grand Master and it's playing, you know, pure imagination you were about to meet the grand Master. I think Thorge just screaming yeah yeah, and then he that like smash guts to him in that room, screaming yes. And I did want to mention um Topaz. I can't remember her name, but the Grandmasters kind of yeah, who is in most

of Tycho with Tits movies? Um, I love like her delivery of everything one, but when the grand Masters like do I always call skapfer one for two? When she saw here starts with the bee and she just says trash. Yeah, it starts with the bound immediately, like trash, were you're just waiting to call her? He's like, that doesn't even start with a B. I love it. There's so many moments. Yeah, got to shout her out. She was great, and when she went to like straight to execution, yeah yeah, yeah,

it's not an execution herbal offense. It's interesting to play her off of the Gray Master because he is bad, but then even he is like whoa, yeah, hold on, hold on? What was what is her name? We need to shotte. I wrote it down, but I can't find it. Rachel House. Yes, yes, she is so great and just the way she says, like literally every line I love. Yeah, um like that I don't know, Yeah, funny lines. I know. Again, we could just quote unquote mainframe. Why wouldn't I like

the mainframe? Oh man? Yeah, I just have like sections that are just quotes. I think we were never most of my my favorite ones. Um, but I guess I would. I would wrap up by saying, according to uh Ta t most of this is is largely inspired by Big Trouble and Little China and Flash Gordon, which I've never seen either of those movies, So now I feel like I have to go watch them any I know Gordon was Star Wars too, and I love Star Wars, so

I gotta apparently, Yeah, those are both great. I mean the um Flash Gordon was a movie of my right in my wheelhouse at my age, like a movie of my youth that was very very big for me and and holds up in a very campy way. Um you know soundtrack by Queen It was awesome. Okay, it's a lot of fun. It's a fun watch. And Big Trouble and Little China is just great. Do you see those influences in this movie? Yeah, I mean certainly Big Trouble in Little China has a lot of the same style

of humor. Kurt Russell is very very funny in that movie, um playing humor against like supernatural badassary. So yeah, I definitely get that Flash Gordon. Yeah, yeah, there's some Yeah. I'm not gonna say anything else, but I definitely that that's pretty cool. I see both of those. The DNA is in is in this film. All right, Well, I will add those to my my list of movies I'm working through during quarantine. No better time than now. Yes, that's true. I've watched a lot of movies, so what's

next for you and me? Do you know? Oh? I don't know. I feel like I've been typecast in Marvel, which I'm not mad about, but like I get a lot of request yeah. Keep. The people have been emailing the Safer email. I've been like, when are you gonna come on and talk about Marvel? Yeah? Uh yeah, so I can always I can keep doing that. We have to do the Empire Strikes Back well, of course, yeah, Holly, uh, and you and I are going to do Empire Strikes Back as a as a triplet, So that'll that will

be fun for sure. But I think I'll never stop talking. She'll never stop talking about it. I'll stop talking about it. I'm happy to just to sit back and sort of listen a lot in that one too. Yeah yeah, well I think I probably will too. I'll probably be like, Holly, you go yeah the Master, Yes, yes, yes, yes, all right, Well, thank you Annie. This is great as always, Thank you your sincere sensation and a pure delight. I look forward to the next solo affair as well as uh, the

Empire Strikes Strikes Back with Holly. That's gonna be a lot of fun epic. It's gonna be one for the ages, the podcast Hall of Fame and where can people find you on the socials? Um, you can find me on Savor which is spelled the amir can Wi s A v O r Um. We're at Savor pod across all those social things. And then I'm also on the podcast stuff I've never told you, which I trust you Internet people, Uh, you can figure it out. We're on social media. But

it's kind of a weird name. So all right, fantastic, Thanks Annie, thank you, Bye bye. Movie Crash is produced and written by Charles Bryant and Meel Brown, edited and engineered by Seth Nicholas Johnson, and scored by Meel Brown here in our home studio at Pontsty Market, Atlanta, Georgia. For I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.