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Music, radio, podcasts. Miss me contains very strong language and some adult themes. Welcome to listen, bitch. Raving edition. Yeah, nice outfit, Lily Allen. Very unravy. What are you talking about? Brat Soma couldn't be more rave if they tried. Yeah, you're not going to rave in the ballet pump. But you're currently in. This week's episode of Listen, Bitch theme is... Raving. So many stories, so many memories. And obviously, raving's quite
difficult because they very often blur into one rave, right? It's like one era, one party, one moment. One conversation, one dance. One chat. One chat over 10 years. Well, we're not surprised me. So I'm really hoping that the audience lead us to memories of your that is tucked right there back in the doldrums. You really use the word your quite a lot, do you know that? Do you know what? I learned it on a friend's episode. Stories of your
Rachel's pretending something's not from pottery barn to Phoebe. Okay. And she's pretending it's antique. She goes, yeah, I mean, this is from, you know, your and the other thing is from, you know, yes to you. I was like, periods of time. I'll never forget. I'll start doing yes to you more. Let us get our first question to take us back to the yes
to you of our raving days. Hi, Lily and McKaytter. I'm Lauren from Chancerd. My question for you is, what is the most outrageous and weird thing that's happened to you in a rave or after a rave? Because raves are weird, weird places and weird things happen. I once come out of fabric with basically a whole new outfit on. I've really done it now, but
that's probably one of the most weird things that's happened to me in a rave. But yeah, I'm really curious to hear your stories about the weird and wonderful things that have happened to you in a rave. That's deep. Leave me in the club when a completely new look, you know, I wish mine was that team. I remember going to an outdoor, like free party rave in Dirtle's Door in Dorset with my ex boyfriend Lester and like my friend Rob Hawkins and a bunch
of other people. Crudin. And it must have been like the day after because it was really, really bright and sunny and it was like now it was football time. So that was like the euros or the World Cup or something. And one of the people that own, you know, ran one of the sound systems decided to like set up a TV screen like outside in the daytime and everyone sat there for like 90 minutes pretending that they could see what was happening.
Well, and that they was sober and off to take it in. It was just like, what are we all doing here? This is completely insane. Like everyone's sitting down, haven't been up for like 14 hours off their nuts. Suddenly being really civilized. Actually, I think this is a really important episode to explain what a squat party is. Literally just have free party. We've mentioned squat parties a lot. People might know them as warehouse parties,
but when we were very young, this was our first experience of raving. We didn't go to clubs. We went straight in pretty early. I was 13 my first squat party in Islington, which is all right. It's not as dangerous as some of them could be, but they were pretty rough and ready. You know, people would break into buildings and they're illegal. Illegal is
what they were. They were very illegal. Illegal raves. But how would they come about? So basically on a Saturday night, about 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, you'd call this number and the number would have the address of where the party was going to be on its voicemail, right? Yeah. So, and then you'd all turn up and sometimes the police would have already raided it and it would have to have moved somewhere else. You'd have to go to the other side of London
to like go to this party. Can you imagine that you would just go right, well, actually we're going to Battersea, not Hackneywick and you'd be like, yep, all right, then let's go. Yeah, scale on the night bus for seven hours. Yes. Right. Long before Uber, but I think we even really had mobile phones. We'd call the number from a pay phone. Well, I got my banana phone sort of in my second year of squat parties
and they got nicked very quickly, very quiz, far too flash a phone for a squat party. So my story is an outrageous thing and Lillie actually said to me this weekend, you know, we're doing raving for Listen Bitch. Are you going to talk about this? And I was like, well, yes. Parties were everywhere, but for some reason a lot of our crew that would have house parties afters for the afters were from like Richmond and St Margaret's and Twickenham, which believe
you me after 12 hours in a squat party. It's quite an interesting community to enter. I have to say. And one time we were walking back and I saw Jesus Christ in the sky. Quite literally had a moment with Jesus Christ in the sky. I remember exactly what it was like the whole sky went yellow. Man, say to you. Oh, that's I can't remember. I don't think there was anything said we were just aware of each other. That was just an agreement. Just an agreement.
I see you. You see me. I can see you. You can see me. I was quite an outrageous, ridiculous thing to happen. That was just the way it was in the 90s. I went to a squat party with Lauren and Phoebe once in like brewery road, like sort of like down the back of like Caledonian road in my residence in Wayne and week. It was close enough to my mom's house that we could walk back. And as we were walking back, I had an outer body experience where I could
see the three of us walking home. Oh, my God. I mean, I think that these moments very much attributed to the magic created the magic, the magic and the imagination, let your imagination run wild and your brain will follow if you just left a squat party. You know that place in Caledonian road that you're talking about. That's where I went to my first squat party because obviously they would return to the same venues often because they'd be like this
place is good. Isn't it the place right next to the police station? No, the prison. Yeah, right. Pensonville prison. Yeah, I went to a rave there. I remember the first one I went to I could not believe it because you know, they weren't high production level, but people would put up like that camouflage netting. Oh, yeah. It just looked so cool and the lighting and the sound systems and just like I'm really grateful for those being our early years
of raving. We went in hardcore early and we learnt a lot quickly. Next question, please. I am Nadine from Perth and Western Australia. My question for raving is I'm a mom of two boys. I'm thirty nine about to be forty and I love going out to a rave. I absolutely love it. It doesn't happen very often these days, but when it does, it's the best night of the year. So my question is do you feel like there is an age limit on raving? Like
once you hit motherhood that your raving days are over. Good question. This is going to sound so judgey, but yes, thirty five. Well, I think it's about how you expand your rave, like what is a rave to you? I think if I was, no, I think it is about like when we were in our late teens and early 20s, what was the age of the person that when they came into the room, you were like, get out of the world. And it was day five. Totally it was day five.
You're like, why is still here? But that is a squat party. Like for instance here, like in the Caribbean, age limit to raving, you got to be joking. Like actually, the elders know how to rave better. Sure. Our parents, my mum and Garfield know how to rave still and boy, do they put it into practice. So I say no age limit, but maybe change your rave. Change your rave and you can go on forever. Because when I was trying to do my birthday party,
or sat placed down in Latin America, called Maxilla, Maxilla. And when I asked him if he could get me a late license, he said, I've used them all up on my over 40s reg A night. And I was like, oh my god, I'll be able to go to that in a week. So just let your rave expand and you can go on forever. I could have merged them. I could have merged. I could have merged. I'm welcome there now. So catch me there this summer. But also on this note, I did take my girls when they
were quite young. They had this kids like daytime rave for this exact purpose. So it's like for parents with young kids. And it's a rave on a Sunday. And it was called Big Fish, Little Fish. And we'd take the kids under the West Way down the road. Yeah. And they'd play like, yeah, like acid house. No way. And yeah. And it's so funny because like kids, when they're really little, it's like they're mesmerized by like the build and the and the drop of like house music.
And they've got this video of Marnie like she's on Rob's shoulders. And it's like there's this build and this build and you can see Heather and then suddenly the bass drops in her eyes just roll in the back of her head. She's like this. She's deep in the rave. Deep in the rave. See that drop can't fool nobody. That drop takes everyone. It made me think that like, you know, when you are, you know, high or drunk at raves, there's something that like takes you back to like being like
in a quite sort of child like state. But that obviously exists in young kids because they kind of like move with it in the way that it's very uninhibited. Yes, but I think that that's the reason that even people drink alcohol to be child like. And not you, I don't mean to silly things. I think that there's something about it. We're all having different thoughts, right? All the time. We're all on different frequencies. What alcohol does is it just puts everyone on the same frequency.
Whether it be a better frequency is questionable, but it just aligns everyone's frequency. And that is sort of like childhood because you're kind of all just kids. Hmm. Some people take it a little bit too far like me and they can't be on the same frequency as everybody else. They just go a little bit too far. And I'm having a drink. I'm just trying to align frequencies. That's what I'm doing. Sure. Do you want to ask the next question, darling?
Do you know what? I really do. Like we're in a jungle rave. No, I'm not doing that. Okay, come on. Next question for me. Can I have a question please? Galleys Emily here from Manchester. Rave Capital of the world. I have a question for you both. Best club in the world. And your favourite DJ. Ciao. Thank you. Do you think Manchester's the rave capital of the world? Yeah, for sure. Definitely up there. I'd say so. Every time you say rave. You know, sort of
rave central has the end of factory records all started in Manchester, didn't it? So it's got good rave history. What's my favourite club in the world? I don't know. I did quite like space and I beat her. Oh, God. Not now. It doesn't even exist now. But like back in the day, that was a vibe. No, I was dragged there by Auntie Nana and Uncle Warren and Uncle Cameron and everyone. They loved it when years ago. And I just, I hate, I mean, you know, I hate, I mean, I actually really don't like a
super club fabric. You and Phoebe used to quite like I project our vomited in fabric once. I was like standing on the side stage and I vomited so far like my friend Rob was on the other side of the club and my vomit landed on his trainers. That's actually admirable because what I was going to say is if you vomit in fabric, no, it's going to really see it. It's so fucking big, but you managed to get it over to Rob on his show to really feel it. But do you like a super club,
like clubs that have got that kind of capacity? I hate fabric, but just because I find it so claustrophobic when I start to think that I'm like six stories down or however far down it is underground. It makes me feel sick. I really don't like it. I like where I had my birthday party, which is arts club, which is that's my kind of club, which is like right in the middle of not in here, like in the middle of my ends. We used to go there probably every week. That was,
if there was a club in our history, that was our club, I suppose. It got artsy club. Your, your tink. Favorite DJ? I'm going to say somewhere between DJ, EZ, ShiaFX and Subtru. Conformation. Oh gosh, we get those three together. That's a right. Absolutely. My forte. Surprise, fortier. Feline exactly. Exactly. If I got EZ, maybe a bit of shabby for your fortier. I'll leave that with you. Leave that with me. All right. No, we won't do any
jungle. I'll skip it. I'm a bit of eyeball. And my favourite used to be deep in the jungle, looking for my dread. I like that one. We're going to take a little break. So let's go and get a refill in our water bottles. Maybe I'll meet you on the smoking terrace for a quick cigarette. And we'll see you on the other side. Stay hydrated. See you back on the dance floor. Ryan Reynolds here from Midmobile. With the price of just about everything going up during inflation,
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for free. If you don't download that, well, that's not just a true crime, my friend. That's criminal. Welcome back. Can we on the next question, please? Can we have another question? Hi, Liam McKeither. It's Rachel from Stoke New England in London, originally from the Northeast, England. I met my partner at a rave in Tottenham three years ago. He is also from the Northeast of England coincidentally and was just down for that rave basically that weekend.
So my question for both of you is, what incident has happened at a rave that has completely changed your life forever? Oh my god. Beautiful question. I love your rave love story. I think it's really, if you met a partner in the same rave that was only on for that one night that he was going to, I feel like you're like, okay, I've met someone good here. We have the same interests. What was it the most life-changing thing that's happened at a rave? I mean, at times when we were
dancing together like a load of us. Oh no. They all feel life-changing at the time, but in retrospect, I just like, yeah. Yeah. So I'm saying, there was this one rave that was in actual, this isn't the same kind of journey around. There was a squat party in this really post-building, just off upper street in eastern Tune. And I had like, by then I'd sort of like gained a crew. You know, we'd been going to squat parties for about a year so we'd kind of knew what are the people there
and what crew was at. I mean, it was nice. It was a good time. And they were playing jungle and I hate house music and techno, even techno is what we'd be running from. Gabba is what we'd be running from. But they played jungle, really good jungle and jungle based, which my cousin Phoebe loves and so does Lily. And we were just at one point, all three of us dancing. Doing that dance, Neil, do you remember?
Yeah. Remember what I used to do like that one? That one like, on hand side, and then that one. This squiggle around. And I was doing a bit of that and I remember looking around going thinking, this is, I'm everything. This is the happiest I've ever been in my entire life. And it felt quite like life changing. So obviously those moments felt like that. But I would say that all of those squat parties really did change our lives in a very formative time in our life and we did it all
together. Well, I went to Glastonbury. I think I must have been about 14 or 15 with you and Phoebe. And let's just say it was a year of first for me. It was coming of age, Glastonbury. And we went into drama base and jungle at the time. And you guys took me to the dance tent and you guys were a year older than me and you'd been like going to squat parties and stuff. And so it was kind of like the beginning of it for me. And I lost you guys. I didn't know where you were. And I couldn't
find you for love nor money. And it was in the dance tent. And what I guess it must have been like 98 or something. And so yeah, I'd been looking around and around the dance. I knew that you weren't going to leave because it was the only place that was playing drama base and jungle. So I knew that that was where you guys were going to be. But I was feeling pretty brave, shall we just say.
Good detective thinking. And I remember like I found a security guy and like managed to black getting on his shoulders and asking him to like walk me around the dance center that I could have some sort of like bird's eye view, some extra hype so that I could try and see you from above. That didn't work. Then I managed to do this. I didn't have like backstage bars or anything. I managed to black my way backstage. And it was Ed Russian optical that we're playing on the dance
tent at the time. And and I managed to like a single doubt that MC and like I don't know how I fucking managed to do it. But I was like managed to convince the MC to read your names over the music. And to tell you what tell you where to meet me and it worked. And I thought right this is it. My life has changed. I can do anything. Then that is such an example of what a driven, imaginative creative crazy bitch you are little fucker. Ed Russian optical like right in the middle
of it. And they're like and also Mickey and Phoebe. Me literally in the middle of the tent by the big ladders in the middle of the tent. And then what you were doing we were just there waiting for you. That is an excellent excellent glass to re-lost story. Yes you were waiting for me. We wouldn't have left you just a bit drunk probably. No you're probably like let's get rid of her. No why? I mean probably
bit. Okay can we have another question for this week's episode of this hunt a bitch. Hi girls. This is Cody from Cornwall currently living in Kent after living in Berlin for six years. I mean I have many raving stories but I guess the best one happened last year when my now husband decided to get down and won the In a club toilet and proposed to me. So I'm just wondering what your best club toilet memories are. Thanks. Well it's begs the question what were two of you doing in the
same cubicle? Can I just are? Sounds a bit naughty for me. Different genders as well. No I don't think we've ever been in a club cubicle together sorry. Can't relate. Never happened. I mean I've the fact that you were proposed to in a club of cubicle I've definitely never had anything like that happen to me. I've never been proposed to. Lily's been proposed to twice. You lucky bitch. Actually haven't you been proposed to three times?
Ed Chemical. No he gave me a ring but made it very clear that it wasn't a proposal. I was like thanks. Very him. Here's this diamond ring that's clearly an engagement ring just so that we're clear it's not an engagement ring. I don't want to marry you. Yeah. He's like oh head fuck thanks. Next question please. Hi Lily. Hi my key is Louis calling him from Black Heath in
Southeast London where I work. Living in Lewisham just down the road. On the topic of Raven my question to you guys was what is the strangest thing that you've ever inflicted upon yourself maybe while under the influence shall we say? The strangest thing I've ever inflicted upon myself. Well I mean you used to like to dress up in dinosaur costumes. Yeah for Glaston Bray that became a vibe. That
became a really serious thing actually. I remember I wasn't at Glaston Bray because I had to I remember I was so upset you were doing pyramid stage and it was the year it's not me it's you came
out and you were just so killing it everywhere and you were wearing that purple chart. You've just it was a very great time to be Lily and I really wanted to be there and be part of it with you and I had to host live T-Force over the weekend so I couldn't go and in all the papers it was just all of you like Alfie you Emily Losey or just all in different dinosaur and other animal outfits
I was so sad I wasn't with you I was like oh they really are having a good time. You did go for it yeah those were the days I mean I suppose like the weirdest thing that I've ever inflicted on myself was probably the the days of when my marriage was breaking down and I'd like quite frankly
lost my mind and I was definitely inebriated and under the influence but I took to riding around on a hoverboard while carrying my own personal speaker so I had like I was like a mobile like dickhead flailing pop star not getting enough attention and so just sort of riding around the world that was a very strange time. Once I actually I took the hoverboard on a flight to New York and I was going down the tunnel and the hoverboard hit a nick and the thing I just went flat on my face.
Well I think that's a metaphor in front of everyone. A metaphor for your life at the time. I like you think you afflicted it upon yourself. I feel like you more inflicted that upon others because we were on Kings the Rona I was like is this how you're rolling now you were like yeah very like I'm actually rolling yes. Oh rolling. Ah yes the hoverboard is correct. Don't I actually can't believe I mentioned it because now people can actually Google it. It is on
the internet. Why don't you ask for the penultimate question on this year's on this year's on this week's rating. This year's listen bitch. Yeah can we have the penultimate question please. Hi Lily and my key to this is Ruth from Buckinghamshire. So I used to be a big rave but now not so much because I'm tired and I have responsibilities. So the one thing that I really miss is that feeling of connected consciousness where everybody is experiencing that moment of joy and euphoria
all together. So my question is have you experienced that and if you have what was the song or the set where you felt it. God mine's really embarrassing actually. Mine's when we went to see the streets uh Reading. Oh yeah. We went just me and you I think when in the car I don't think we watched much but we were definitely there to see the streets and blinded by the lights is probably one of
our favorite street songs. Me and Lily and then this entire crowd but we were very like it's just this song that really unites us and we love it in the exactly the same way and we love it for the same reasons we know every single word and I felt quite euphoric. I kind of like find that oh god that moment of euphoria united. It's quite cheesy now. I don't know maybe like you know if we are at carnival and there's some outfits on like boo. Oh yeah. What am I chatting about?
Fuck the streets at Reading or like more fire crew. Oh shit yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6. How are you going to catch me when I'm a mass 6, 6? We could recite all of more fire crew. Oi if we wanted. We're not going to do that. We're all going to do it. I'm just saying if we wanted to. Is that money for me? I use that whatever. That you played that tune before I had even I'd seen it like maybe on MTV
base once and then it was just your tune. People don't even know I had that on vinyl before people even see what that tune was. That's what it was. Yeah leave it out. Final question. It's been lovely to rave with the world today. How are we going to end this party? Hello, Mikicia and hello Lily. Firstly I would like to thank you for your beautiful podcast and currently a dialysis patient and I listened to all your podcasts while I'm having my treatment.
Anyways in regards to raving I did most of my raving on the island of Gran Canary. We used to go to a club called La Roca. It used to open at seven in the morning on till two in the afternoon and then we would go back to somebody's apartment and party and rave a little bit more. So my question to you both is who was the last one at the rave amongst the two of you who had to be dragged over the rave and if you were to rave now what time do you think
you could make it till. Thank you sir. I'm happy that Miss Miki and a company used through something so challenging. I hope we're giving you some comfort through this time in your life. Yeah. Okay, last one at the rave. You. This round goes to Mikicia. What are you talking about? In the past you and Phoebe would stay up later than me. No. You two would keep going. Absolutely not. I'm not like that. No way. Enterprise house, please. Give it a wrap.
You're welcome, don't you? Okay, you're in denial. You're literally in denial. Did you ever come and rave at Enterprise House? Let's, I'm calling Phoebe. Let's. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Absolutely. Okay. All right. She's good. Okay. Hello. Phoebe Oliver. Hi. I'm just recording the podcast with your cousin and we're doing a listen bitch and it's about raving and the question is out of the two of me and
Mikicia, who was always the last one up? Mikicia, Mikicia, it would have been up last. She might not have been the last between the two of you. She'd be up last. Yeah. Damn fucking straight. You're so indenisable about your own behaviour. I can't believe it. Okay. Okay. I'm fine. Hang up on that straight a bitch right now. I love you, Phoebe. I'll call you later. We love you and we're going to call you later, but thank you. Don't worry. We've out in all of our old raving stories today.
Fair enough. What was the second part of the question? Who would it be now? Still me. Lily doesn't ring. What do I love the other side of raving? We have to say it's been good. It has. It's been good to remember my um, premonition in the sky of Jesus Christ speaking to me in Bushie Park 96. Oh my God. I can't believe you had like a religious epiphany. I didn't really know that but it makes sense.
It really does. It really does. Now Lily Allen, if you tell me that you haven't got a subject for this week's Listen Bitch, I may quit Miss Me. Anything? I have. You said yesterday. Oh, I guess that means it's my week. I said, yeah, yeah, you got 24 hours to find something and we have a list. Okay. My subject matter for Listen Bitch is... Revenge. Revenge. I really picked that one last week. I'm really happy. A revenge. The summer of revenge. Maybe you're planning a revenge.
Maybe you're in the middle of one at the moment. Either way, or maybe you've been avenged and you'd like to out that person. I mean, this is the space for it all. You can't be avenged. That doesn't come under revenge. Oh, right. What's avenged then? Yeah, that's to go back at someone after they've attacked you. Avenge the person that attacked you? No. You like avenge someone. Yeah, like the avengers. It's not the same thing. Obviously, I know what avengers, but I really like,
let's just see what the English dictionary says. What? I know that's revenue. I was like, that's not revenge. To take vengeance for or to exact satisfaction by punishing the injuring party to vindicate. It's like to vindicate, isn't it? Oh, can't it. You know what? I fucking love revenge. I have to say. I love a big fat pull of revenge. Please send your questions. Voice notes, etc. to 0800304090. That's 0800304090. I love our number. We'll see you next week
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