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Today's guest is from Australia . He's a principal technical architect . His first award is MVP in 2023 . He loves solving complex business problems for enterprise customers and he loves to share his learnings with the Microsoft Dynamics community via blogs and speaking of various community events .
You can find links to his bio and social media in the show notes for this episode . Welcome to the show , Rachit .
Thank you , mark . I'm really excited to be at your show . I have been following your podcast for years now and you have been an inspiration to a lot of inspiring MVPs , so really happy to be here and kudos to you for all the great work you do for the community .
Thank you , sir . Thank you sir . What part of Australia do you live in ? I live in Victoria , Melbourne , Nice , Tell me . Tell me food , family and fun . What do they mean to you ? Everything that doesn't involve work .
That means a lot . That means life to me . So , yeah , I think food coming from I actually belong . I was born and brought up in India , in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh , and I belong to city of Taj Mahal , agra , so it's famous for its food and the food is really hot and spicy there .
So I grew up eating that food and it was like my daily staple diet all hot and spicy stuff . So food means a lot to me and there is so much variety of food we eat . We grew up eating , so food is definitely something I look forward to and , to be honest , in Melbourne I really find a rich variety of Indian food options available .
So in that terms , melbourne is really good from cultural blend perspective . So , yeah , I moved to Melbourne almost 10 years back . It's my second home , live here with my wife and eight year old daughter and yeah , there's something new to explore in Melbourne , like , even after living for 10 years , there are places I go for the first time .
So it's quite big and a lot of things to explore in Melbourne .
It is a great city and , of course , famous for its foodie culture , right and coffee . In a former life , when I used to live in Australia , I spent one day a week in Melbourne , or every week , so I'd fly down from Sydney Just about the food and the hotness . What's generally the spice that creates the heat in your local Indian cooking .
Yeah , that's a tricky one . So the thing with Indian cooking is the spice box . We have a lot of spice plantation happening in India so , like what I see here is , people don't use a lot of spices when they cook food . But when it comes to Indian cooking , it's basically the right ratio of different spices which go into a particular dish .
So some dishes may have more of chili , some dishes may have more of another spice . So it basically just depends on the type of dish we are preparing . The thing with Indian food is the taste changes every 200 kilometer you travel . So you eat a food in a city and you travel another 400 kilometer . You eat the same dish .
It may taste different because the ratio of spices are different , the base of the curry is different . So that is one thing . But yeah , it's basically different type of chilies as well not always red chili or green chili that you can find yellow chilies and different flavors of them . So yeah , that's one thing which drives the hotness .
And also , I think people like to explore because they have so many options . The spice box is like full of 15 or 20 different spices . So once you explore something , experiment , it becomes your unique selling point , and there are a lot of unique food chains in India who have their secret formula which makes them famous . So yeah , that's where it is .
When it comes to chili , like why I'm asking ? Because I'm growing chilies myself and what I see coming from America and maybe a bit from Europe is people who can create the hottest chili . So you know , I've got some habaneros and I've got some ghost peppers and I've got some Carolina reapers and which I think are the hottest , and I'm not a chili eater .
My chilies that I've eaten in my life have always been dare based . In other words , I dare you eat a whole chili . If you eat one , I'll eat a whole chili type thing . And I've done that a lot . I've done that a lot .
The last time I did it I was in London when I did it and I regretted it because I was with a girl and I challenged her and she just picked up the chili and munched it straight away and then that left me having to eat a whole chili . So you know raw . So it was tough going seeds and all .
So that's why I asked because , yeah , just understand , you know the type of chilies that you grow , apart from the color . Is there any particular names associated with those chilies ?
To be honest not across it , but generally I also eat raw chili , raw green chilies . Is that something which I like to have with my meal ? But yeah , yeah , right . So that is definitely a part of my diet , because my wife and daughter doesn't like hot food , so they give me chilies separately and this is what you eat . Fair enough , fair enough .
Tell me about your journey into Microsoft business applications . How did it start ? What brought you to where you are now ? What area do you kind of specialize in in the entire suite that is Microsoft ?
I basically started my first job after my college in 2005 and it was a job of X++ developer . When I got that offer I was like , what language is it like ? Because that was the era of everyone was after C , sharp or dot net or Java .
But I thought to explore it because I read ERP in my college and I was a bit interested to explore how to build these enterprise grade applications using some unique programming languages .
So I joined a company called Euro info system which was in India , and they came to know they were actually a reseller who were working with Damguard even before Microsoft acquired except so they had some good , good knowledge base in that company and people with whom we can learn and grow .
So , yeah , I mean , the journey started in 2005 and then the way this platform evolved over a period of time kept me , kept me engaged with it . So it was not a monotonous or repetitive work which we were doing because it had to . It had so much to offer and so much to explore .
Every time we solve a problem we face , we were given a new problem to solve and even now , after , like , spending 17 , 18 years in this field , I still , you know , get new problems to solve on this platform . So it always kept me engaged , kept me excited about what's happening , and Microsoft had their good focus on this product .
So it kept evolving with time . So when it was Originally launched , it was like a two tier and three tier application with its own database server and UI layer separate . But With time it got more matured and Microsoft brought its compiler into dotnet and now it's cloud based .
We write code in visual studio , so so the the tools and frameworks Microsoft brought in this ecosystem actually kept everyone engaged and kept us up to date with latest technology trend . We do not Feel that we are being left out . So that was one of the reason for me to like stay in this technology and grow with it .
And once , once I started and got some deep understanding of the frameworks , then then you Start exploring more , because once you understand a level of detail , then you get an idea of okay , this is how it works in real life .
So yeah , and one another good thing was I was based in India , so I got to travel around the world for different customers to implement the product . So I got to travel to US , netherlands , uk , and then I also traveled to Australia for a few assignments in 2008 .
That's when I felt this is a great country to where you can actually live with the family and Explore more opportunities . So , yeah , in 2013 we moved here and since then I'm here and , yeah , loving living in Melbourne . It's a bit far from India , like the flight is a bit long almost 14 hours but yeah , still it's good to be here .
And , yeah , you of course , miss family . Nothing can replace that and but , as I said , there is a lot of good Indian culture presence in Melbourne , so it keeps me connected to my roots . I can visit temples , I can go to social gatherings where festivals are celebrated and , yeah , so that's where I am .
That was the same year I moved to Australia oh yeah , 2013 but I left in 2017 and went to Europe . So have you always been in Melbourne ? Is that where you've been based ?
Yes , I have been based like the most of the time I've spent in Melbourne . I have traveled to Sydney , brisbane , for some assignment and travel purposes , but mostly my base has been in Melbourne .
When I used to work there and I was building my practice , I bought a lot of people in from India , relocated them back then it was a 457 visa , from memory , that you'd come to Australia on , and so the organization I was working for had a legal department that handled that for me , and so it .
When there was a skill shortage , I was able to tap into some great minds , you know , and Out of India and bring them into Australia . Now that , of course , is all pre-pandemic . That was all around 2015 , 16 , 17 . What some ? Is that still happening ? Is there in your community and connections ?
Are you still seeing a lot of people immigrating from India in the tech sector to Australia ? I know the visas were changed , but are you seeing that ?
Yeah . So 457 visa has been here for a long time . So I myself came on work visa , so Sable 37 was the partner for whom I was working when I came here . So 457 work visa is one of the key pathway for companies to bring talent to Australia . It still exists and it has . I think they have changed few laws around how long it is valid for .
So initially it used to be valid for four years , but now I think it's valid for two years and then you have to renew it for another two years , but it still is a pathway .
During pandemic there was a bit of a pause and didn't did not see a lot of companies getting into sponsorship because , yeah , I mean it's tricky to get to that stage where you can actually sponsor an overseas skilled professional because you have to go through that layer of labor laws and a lot of declarations to be done at government side .
But I think now this year I have seen the market is opening up and a few of my known people network people have migrated , and not only from India . I've seen people migrating from Dubai , people migrating from Singapore , migrating from Saudi Arabia .
So , yeah , I think Australia being the way Australia managed its pandemic situation made it more preferred location for people to migrate . So I see a lot of interest in people who want to migrate to Australia and one of the key reason is the way we managed pandemic here . But , yeah , it is there . People are coming . I think it's opening up now .
It's a good time . The market is . It all depends like . The market is growing . Companies are finding more projects now so , yeah , the demand is also increasing .
What are you doing in the area of AI ? Are you exploring AI from a personal use case ? Are you exploring it for customers ? What's the story with Dynamics 365 , finance and AI ? What's your thinking around all these areas ?
Yeah , I think AI is definitely a game changer for a lot of applications , not just Dynamics , but the way we use technology in our day to day life is going to get impacted and it has already started Like we are not in a phase where people only talk about it . There are good AI platforms which are already released and companies have started adopting it .
People in personal , for their personal use , have started adopting it , so I think it is definitely something which will become like a core skill in few years down the line , even like it may get more interest when people are graduating or doing studies . It may become part of core , part of their curriculum .
I think I see it as a positive vibe that yes , there are some unique , complex problems which technology can solve , especially in areas of healthcare , the type of AI solutions which are coming and which can help people to recover from their illness in a more smooth way . I think it's going to be having good impact In terms of personal use .
I actually showed it to my daughter and she loves to play with Dalí and creating some crazy images and she comes up with some crazy ideas and says , hey , dad , let's try Dalí and let's try to create an image and she actually gave me some feedback that when I use some particular keywords , this is the type of image it created and it was not what I expected .
So the kids are like she gave me a feedback . If I give it a long sentence then it doesn't prepare give me the right image , but if I give a very crisp , precise instruction , it gives me what I asked for . So it was interesting to see how even kids are able to interpret the behavior and give a feedback .
I think the use cases are going to be too many . I think in Dynamics 365 , microsoft has started introducing AI embedded capabilities , especially using OpenAI in sales marketing , where the customers , the interaction can be analyzed and automatic email reply can be drafted .
Also , in terms of finance and operation , there is one capability which is using chat , gpd and OpenAI , which is around whenever a purchase order confirmation gets modified . What is the effect of this on other commitments and other purchase order and how it can impact your supply chain .
So there are some models which Microsoft is introducing in out of the box product . However , I think there are a lot of potential use cases which can be enabled . Ai has been part of finance and operation , like there are demand forecasting functionalities which were available in the product from many years .
There were planning , optimization , master planning , which uses all these machine learning AI algorithm , but I think this whole new OpenAI and chat GPD thing is also catching a lot of attention .
It looks like in AI it's a parallel word of AI where people don't like to talk much about machine learning and traditional AI regression algorithms , but they want to focus more on what chat GPD can do to solve their problem .
Yeah , large language models and generative AI right is all the focus at the moment . How did you become an MVP ? What was the journey to MVP for you ?
Yeah , Journey to MVP has been a long dream for me . Actually , when I was in my formative years , when I traveled to actually Europe for one of my assignment , I met few MVPs . Kurt Hettlewick was one of them .
When I interacted with him I got a bit of inspired from the way he thinks about not only about a solution for a customer , but his talks were more focused on industry what can we do to revolutionize the problem for the industry ? That's where I came to know about MVP program and I started looking about it .
But then , due to my migration and a lot of things always happening , it was always in the back of my mind that , yes , I have to work towards it , Although I have been contributing to the community from last more than 10 years . I have a blog where I have all the collection of technical articles which go way back to 10 years .
But I think and that's one thing , what I hear a lot of MVP says that you keep giving back to the community and MVP comes along with it . But I feel you actually have to prepare and work towards it if you really want to be an MVP . You have to bring a structure to your contributions .
You have to sometimes go above what you normally do to meet that benchmark , Because I felt like first time I MVP award was rejected , which is fine , because there were a few things which were not in the right timing . So timing is all about what you have done in the last 12 months .
So what you have done in the last 10 years is not the criteria , but what you have done in the last 12 months is the criteria . So you might have written 50 blogs five years back , but that doesn't count now . So if someone is aiming to become an MVP , it's very important to understand the process and how you build that collection of your contributions .
That is very important and you have to need to have a plan , work towards it , identify what you are comfortable doing . You don't need to go to forums , write a blog , go to YouTube , go to seminars , do a podcast . Identify your core strength and what you are comfortable doing it and focus on that area .
So I realized okay , my focus is more towards doing sessions in the community that's where I focused and blogging . So I was mostly focused on blogging and doing sessions . So these were my two key areas . I did a bit of forum things and created YouTube videos , but that is something which I'm planning to maybe get more .
Give it more attention next year and this year I continue focusing on what I am doing . So , yeah , my advice to people who want to target MVP is plan in advance , focus and identify what your core area of engagement is , core way of engagement is , and work on that .
Have your backlog of last 12 months activities ready how you impacted the community , how you brought value to them and try to have a unique offering . Because what I feel sometimes I feel like , okay , let me go and create a video on how to write X++ code , but then when I go to YouTube , I see there are plenty of videos already out there .
So what my content is going to add value to , whom I'm going to add value to ? So identify what type of community members you want to target . That's also another important thing . Build your brand , yeah .
I like it . You've just given and provided the listeners a whole bunch of very valid , very relevant advice to becoming an MVP . So thank you so much , Rachit covering on the show , because I think that if people just took that last piece of what you said from your experience and apply it , they could find themselves becoming MVP before too long .
Thank you for that , mark . Yeah , I think it is important to understand what your journey is and once you get MVP , then you feel really happy about it because it's not something which just came by itself .
You work for it , you had a goal which you have achieved and that fuels your passion towards it , and now you can explore other areas and you get into that network of MVPs . You can take their help to connect and establish more , better brand in the market for yourself .
Hey , thanks for listening . I'm your host business application MVP Mark Smith , otherwise known as the NZ365 guy . If you like the show and want to be a supporter , check out buymeacoffeecom forward slash NZ365 guy . Thanks again and see you next time .