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Today's guest is from Malta . She works at KPMG as a Microsoft Dynamics 365 developer . She was first awarded her MVP in 2023 . Her words she's just a girl in love with tech who loves baking and reading novels . She's self-driven and passionate about learning and dedicated to building tech communities . You can find links to her bios , socials , etc .
In the show notes for this episode . Welcome to the show , rachel .
Thank you so much , Mark . I'm so excited to be here . Thank you .
I'm really happy to have you on the show . You're a star in the community , so it'll be good to unpack your journey and what you've been up to . Before we go there , tell me about food , family and fun . What do they mean to you ?
I think I can start from fun first . I don't do much for fun . I love reading novels to relax . I love watching funny movies just to laugh and just to relax . Then for family , I love my mom a lot . I recently lost my dad . That was in 2022 . I lost my dad in 2022 . I just have my mom , two brothers and one sister .
Nice , where did you originate from before Malta ?
I'm from Nigeria .
Nice . Is it far for you to travel ? Then ? If you need to go home , is it because I've been to Malta ? I stayed for a week , my wife and I . I know where your office is because I saw it while I was in Malta . Tell me , how hard is it to get from Malta to Nigeria across the Med ?
It's not a straight flight . I'll either have to travel to Turkey , then from Turkey to Nigeria I'll have to travel to Lagos , or I'll have to travel to London . Either I'll go to an airport and then travel to Lagos , nigeria .
So there's a direct flight from Luton to Nigeria .
Yeah , I think I saw . I traveled recently and I saw a board where Nigeria was written like Lagos . Nigeria was there and I was like , okay , wow , that's nice .
When I lived in London , luton was our main airport , so I did lots of trips out of that airport as well . How long have you been in Malta ?
I've been in Malta now for a year and one month Do you love it . It's nice . It's small , but it's nice it's definitely small right . Yeah , it's small .
Have you traveled much around the islands ?
I don't really go out much . I just mostly just go out for work or maybe hanging out with colleagues . Yes , I don't really go out much , but I do travel around Europe . Yeah , I travel around Europe .
Yeah , nice , nice . There's just so much to see and do . Right , and particularly what I love about Malta is its history , incredible history . It's been pivotal in so many things and the town is beautiful , and then there's those like castles and stuff up on the hills outside of Malta , right ?
Yeah , that's Valetta . It's beautiful , and where I live I have , like , a view of the sea , so it's really really beautiful , yeah , so it's amazing .
How did you get into tech ? What was your journey to getting into technology ?
Okay , I say this a lot , I say tech found me , like Power Platform found me , because I was actually trying to be independent , like not to reach out to my parents all the time when I needed money or needed to get something . So I was trying to be independent . I was trying a lot of things . I was trying I tried baking .
I tried selling , like selling clothes , stuff like that . I tried selling baked goose . But every time what stopped me was money to like to continue like money , to continue like money to actually invest into that business . So I was still in school and a friend talked about , like this power platform Boots Camp and was like , okay , let me go .
And I went for the Boots Camp . I think before then , before that period I was , I was studying industrial mathematics . Industrial mathematics is amazing , but it was not something I applied for , applied for engineering and I was giving mathematics , so it was not something I applied for .
I did not know what I wanted to do , like what the future had for me , what was my future career or what I wanted to go for . I was just , I was asking lecturers like , okay , what can I do with industrial mathematics ? And they were telling me that I can work anywhere . I can work anywhere . Where can I work , please ? Yeah , so , yeah , so it was .
So I think . The power platform , boots Camp I'm before then I actually did not know much about tech careers , like I know about tech , but I did not know that , okay , they are tech careers and anyone can go into tech . You understand , because when you say tech , it looks like that's like that big Mountain that nobody can cross into .
So I got to know about power platform and I was building so as a Boots Camp for just 10 days . I was using applications , they were giving us assignments , I was building applications to building workflows , catbots . I viewed a dashboard , but it was terrible . Yeah , that's what was terrible . So , but it was nice .
It was a nice experience and Like coming from a background that I had no idea about carers in tech and being able to do all of that .
So I actually fell in love with power platform and also the community , because during the Boots Camp , david Abu , which is a he's a cloud advocate at Microsoft , he advised us to join the community , the power-added community , to post online . If we have questions , we should post online stuff like that . So I felt a lot of power platform .
I fell in love with the community and the community has helped me a lot , yeah .
Nice , tell me , tell me a bit more detail around the boot camp . What was what was involved in the boot camp ? Because , because what you just talked about is amazing way For people if they wanted to start a career in Microsoft business application .
So the boot camp was obviously the turning point for you and massively influential Over that 10 days kind of what were all the things that you covered ? What did you at the end of it ? What were you thinking about your next steps ?
Yeah , okay for the Boots Camp . It was more of beginner level , like what is in power platform , stories of web . Microsoft power platform is being used and it's story about Fui . You know Fui .
No .
She's from Nigeria . Yes , yes , yes , yes .
Yes , sorry , I do .
Yeah for you from Nigeria story about Fui on how she Came into power platform .
So it was really encouraging then talking about how companies are using power platform , then showing us how to build like three Theory screen application , showing us how to build workflows just to send the weather , like how the weather looks like the next day , and Also building chat boards for businesses .
And then I think another thing that helped a lot was actually giving us assignments , like something that you can go back home and work on and come back the next day , and Also creating a .
There's a we , the community , has like a WhatsApp chat that everybody is in , so when you have questions , you can easily just post your questions there and People can answer your questions . So it was amazing like everybody was free . You , there was no , that's when you have questions . Yeah , it's not that feeling that this question you have is silly .
You , you understand , so , yeah , so it's really , really amazing .
I'm in one of the WhatsApp communities for Nigeria . I'm in the Nigeria Dynamics 365 UG WhatsApp group .
Yeah .
And I've been in that group for oh how many members . There's 372 members in there and I think I've been in that . Do you know Hamad ? Yes , I know Hamad . He set it up .
Yeah , I know .
Hamad yeah , so I think he set it up , boy . This is before I left from London , so this is like four or five years ago , so it's been very good . I always say I love seeing how the Nigeria community has , in the last five years , just exploded globally . Right , and you're a testament to that . Tell me about . The bootcap ended . What happened next ?
How did what did you do next ? How did your career start to develop ?
Okay , I started Boots Camp . I think I had like I did not . I got to a point that I had no idea what was the next step . I had no idea what the next step was . After the Boots Camp I got to , I took Power Platform for the Mental Certification exam because we were encouraged to take the exam .
So I took the exam and I had no idea what was the next step , like , what is the next thing for me to do right now ? I've seen so many people around me because I finally came to Twitter . I was not using Twitter before then , but I finally came to Twitter and I was using Twitter . I've seen so many people around me .
They were all in data , like they were data analysts . Data is awesome Definitely it's awesome but it's not something for me , because I was seeing so many people in data and I also wanted to . Okay , let me venture into that particular field because I'm seeing so many people in data .
I was already seeing people in Power Platform in Nigeria , because this was 2022 , early 2022 . I was not really seeing much people in Power Platform . I was like , okay , since I'm seeing so many people in data , let me go into data and I started learning Python .
I started learning Python , but I think I was just I was doing the 100 days of code , 100 days of Python , and I was also doing school alongside . I was going ninth class back to back . Ninth class is like something you have to spend the whole 19 school reading . After ninth class I go home , I go back again to school . So it was stressful .
Yeah , so it was really stressful . So I was learning Python . I was like , okay , this thing I'm learning , I'm not really getting anything from this , I'm just posting online . I'm doing 100 days of code , but what am I learning ?
So I was like , okay , no , if it was now , I think I would have taken the course and also checked on other resources online to learn about Python . But then I was doing it differently . So I stopped Python and I was like , okay , I restart to a pre-donor , I restart to Azure , restart to Foyi , restart to Mary Myers .
I was like , because I saw them , they were in Power Platform . I restarted them . I was like , okay , I noticed that I'm Power Platform and I want to know how your day-to-day looks like . I'm not a person who likes Power BI , but because I'm not good with dashboards , but I love Power Apps . I love Power Apps and Power Automate .
I would love to know how your day-to-day looks like . How do you do ? What do you do at your work ? I'm very , very curious about it . They were like , okay , fine , definitely . I was like , okay , if I have this question , I think a lot of persons too we have this particular question . I started doing a Twitter space where I invited them .
A lot of persons joined the call . They spoke about their journey , they spoke about what they do their day-to-day . I was like , okay , this is amazing . Yeah , this is really nice . I was like , okay , I started Twitter spaces every time I was inviting people in the community to talk about how to get started .
What is your personal experiences like From the Twitter spaces ? That's where I had the idea where I created a podcast named A Girl in Love Tech . Yeah , apart from that , also because I was trying to navigate my way in all of this , I was trying to navigate my way and also to learn , and also to learn .
So , the boot camp before the Twitter space , the boot camp I attended . I reached out to David Abu and I told him that , okay , I would love to be a part of the persons actually organizing this boot camp , because when I was learning , I noticed a lot of things that I had like I did not really have so much strength in .
I'm not a confident person , I'm not really good with communicating . Clearly , I have anxiety , like when you call my name , it's like the word wants to fall on my head , yeah . So I was like , okay , so why just cry and say , okay , I have these weaknesses , why not work on them ? So , and also I was noticing that my journey is slow and I was making .
I was not really knowing what to do . So I reached out to him and told him that , okay , I would like to be a part of the team organizing this boot camp to help out and also to tutor . And then what I knew there was just how to build a three screen view power apps application yeah , and also what's the different applications in power platform do .
So I reached out to him and he said , okay , fine , I can join the community . So from there we started organizing the boot camps and I started tutoring in the boot camp . So all of this helped me a lot to my journey . After the boot camp , and also I reached out to two persons in the Nigerian power platform community .
I was like okay , I know that a lot of persons out there and they're interested in power platform because through that Twitter spaces I was seeing a lot of persons asking questions about power platform . I know they are interested in power platform . I would love to hold I don't have so much knowledge about this was in 2022 .
I don't have so much knowledge about power platform , but I would love it if you could join me to organize a weekend classes , like weekend classes every Saturday , so that people can attend . So we created a telegram group and also started having classes every weekend , yeah , and I joined the Nigerian power platform leadership group .
That is . That's such a good , and you said it felt slow to you , but for me it's like you covered a lot in about two years . Right and two years you . Really . How did you end up then getting a job at KPMG ?
Okay , I was posting a lot online because from the boot camp , david Abu told us that we should try learning . We should post online about our learning journey Like if I learn something today .
David's a smart guy . Yeah , david's a smart guy , I totally agree with him .
Yeah , so if I completed the learning parts today , I'll post it online . This is what I learned from this learning part . If maybe I had , if I have a question , I'll just use the power editor hashtag and post it online . And I was also speaking at different events . I was speaking at different events , different user groups .
Visually , though , I was speaking at different events . So on LinkedIn , I was also . I was posting this on Twitter and I was posting this on LinkedIn . Like , my LinkedIn is full on my Twitter . You can see a lot of posts there . So , on LinkedIn , somebody reached out to me .
That was , I think , 2020 , that was like four months , five months into my journey , into my power platform journey . Somebody reached out to me on LinkedIn and told me that's okay , the person just sends me a connection and I accept it , like on LinkedIn , and the person sends me a message .
That was the first time I spoke to him and I was like wait , yo hi , I have your plate for this job . I was like no , I've not applied for this job . It's like , okay , send me your CV so that I can be a reference for you , like I can do a referral for you . Yeah , and that was it .
And you got the job .
Yeah , I went for the interview . I went for the interview took like a month . I went for the interview and then I got the job . Wow .
And so that's still another big thing , right , because you actually had to move countries for that job . Is that right ? Yes , I did . Yeah , I feel .
It's amazing . I still can't believe it . I think it took me a long time . So actually , when I was staying in Nigeria , I was actually just running around to relocate to Mota . I could not believe it . That's , I was actually like my skills is making this happen ? Yeah , so it's unbelievable .
This is amazing . I want to make sure we get links to your podcast and social media those type of things in the show notes for this episode and I recommend everyone go check it out because this is an amazing story . Tell me , how did you become an MVP ?
My contributions to the community . I do a lot in the community . I have , like I said , I have a podcast . I also have . My podcast is everywhere . It's on Spotify , it's on YouTube , it's on Google podcast , it's on Anko , it's on LinkedIn , twitter , because it's live , live podcast , so you get to listen to it live and also ask questions .
And then I have a YouTube channel where I post the live videos . I speak at different events and I also travel to volunteer at events and then I contribute to the telecommunity blog posts , where I actually contributes on blog post . I contribute to the student ambassador community yeah , because I became a student ambassador last year and also I do a lot .
I can't even count them . I'm also part of different communities where I'm volunteering . I'm part of communities where I'm volunteering . I also have I host events where I host classes to talk about Power Platform , talk about Power Automate and , yeah , it's a lot , so it's nice to be recognized , yeah .
Yes , it's so , so , so good to see you in the community and all the contributions that you make . If someone came to you and let's say they're still at school and they're going , what should I do for a career and what steps should I take to get into a career like what they see you doing , rachel ? What would you recommend they do ?
Okay . I think it depends on what the question the acts . I recently spoke to someone recently and she wants to be a data analyst . She wants to be a data analyst and she was thinking of also coming into Power Platform . So I said there's one thing that you need to do you don't have to overwhelm yourself . You need to decide first .
What do you want to go for . You don't have to , because a lot of things out there . When people are looking for careers to join , the first question they ask is is there money in this ? Are there opportunities in this ? I'm hearing a lot of residents saying this is the rule trending right now and I want to jump into it . What do you think ?
So I think you have to decide what you want to do first . You have to decide and you have to take it one step at a time . You don't have to overwhelm yourself . Like we have Power Platform right now . We have so many applications in Power Platform .
So when you're trying to jump into Power Platform , I'll say , okay , why not go for Power Apps first or Power Automate ?
And I think one thing I've noticed is that when you're using Power Automate , when you're using Power Apps because at first what I wanted to learn was Power Apps , and while learning Power Apps , I noticed that most times I had to use Power Automate , so I had to learn Power Automate also , so I had to learn Power Automate . So something like that .
You just have to take it one step at a time . You don't need to overwhelm yourself because you're going to get burnt out , and one of the advice I'll give is join the community . It's very important . It's going to take a long way . Have people around you that supports you . People that advice you and try to listen to people . Nobody's know it all .
Yeah , try to listen to people . When people talk to you , they reach out to you . Okay , this thing you are doing is not right . Can you try to listen to people ? And also , I think , try to build projects . I think the best way to learn is that it's not just learning , reading , learning parts , going through courses , doing 100 courses in a year .
I think , just build along , learn along and build .
And I think one thing that has helped me a lot is teaching , teaching what I have learned , building , learning and teaching , because it's like it's meant that knowledge yeah , because when you are going to speak in an event or when you are trying to teach in a group of people , you have to do a bit of research .
That means you have no idea about it , because you are going to try and get prepared for questions that will be asked during that class , or during the class , people might ask you questions , like recently I spoke at Xtonia and somebody asked me questions about licensing Licensing your power platform .
I've always looked at it as being very hard , but I was like , ok , since somebody asked me this question , why not just look into it ? You understand so stuff like that . It opens you to knowledge and there's something people miss out a lot why , working on your technical skills , why not also work on your soft skills ? Soft skills is very important .
It's going to take you a long way .
Alongside your technical skills , like skills like speaking , being able to communicate clearly , presentation , being able to present , because , let me say , for instance , if you are a data analyst and you are building a dashboard , you have to explain what you have built , yeah , and also , if you are a data analyst , you also have soft skills that you need to learn .
You need to learn design colors , how to use colors , a lot of things and in power platform , I think , soft skills that you need to learn speaking clearly . You have to learn documentation how to document , which is very important . You have to learn how to either being a developer or a consultant . I think it's very important to learn how to gather requirements .
So there are a lot of things to do that we need to work on and , while learning , like I said , take it step by step process . It's not easy . Half people around you yeah , I think there are a lot , but I forgot something .
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