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Episode 329 – Catching up on news

Apr 13, 202337 min
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In Episode 329, Ben and Scott talk about some old (but new to them) enhancements to Microsoft Intune that allow for the import of ADMX and ADML administrative templates, availability of Windows 365 Cloud PC preview for Frontline workers, and avatars for Teams coming to public preview. Like what you hear and want to support the show? Check out our membership options. Show Notes UniFi Gateway - WAN Load Balancing and Failover Flux Keyboard Windows 365 offers flexibility from the office or home to the frontline Import custom ADMX and ADML administrative templates into Microsoft Intune (public preview) Windows 365 Frontline available in public preview Avatars for Microsoft Teams in Public Preview Video https://youtu.be/DBdTc05VqWQ About the sponsors Intelligink utilizes their skill and passion for the Microsoft cloud to empower their customers with the freedom to focus on their core business. They partner with them to implement and administer their cloud technology deployments and solutions. Visit Intelligink.com for more info.

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Welcome to episode 329 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast recorded live on April 7th, 2023. This is a show about Microsoft 365 in Asher from the perspective of it pros and end users where we discussed the topic where recent news and how it relates to you. In this episode, Ben and Scott start off talking about bandwidth internet and home networks before moving into some enhancements to Microsoft in tune that allow for the import of ADM X and ADM L administrative templates.

Then they move into the availability of Windows 365 cloud PC preview for frontline workers and wrap up talking about avatars for teams coming to public preview. We're gonna talk about random topics today, Scott. I've got all kinds of randomness along with your randomness. I have the unified dream machine row for my primary router and I do have redundant internet. So I have Comcast and at and t both coming in.

But one thing they added in a recent update to the U D M Pro was to use load balancing for my internet connections. So instead of routing some people out of one connection and other people out of one which sort of worked and then a failover, I have now set it up to load balance my internet and they have a slider.

So I can say like 80% goes over Xfinity and 20% for at and t because my at and t is way slower than Xfinity and so far it seems to be working okay and hopefully it'll help me not go over my limits because sometimes I still went over limits because my traffic would not be equally distributed between myself and my family. Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't have that dual van capability, but it does sound interesting the whole load balancing and failover for capability within there.

I had not done it for a while and then at one point in time I was doing a conference or a presentation or a webinar or something and my internet went out like three minutes before the webinar was supposed to start. I ended up tethering, I think I tethered to my phone and it came back at one point in time, but I was like, you know what?

When I'm out for three hours or four hours and for me too, being hourly consulting more or less if I'm down for that long, like it pays for itself if I can work an extra three or four hours because I'm not down. I can see all of that. So I am waiting for, I've been eyeing the unified dream routers. They're the little, the UDRs, they're the little cylindrical ones. Yes.

Little white cylinders. It's. Like the next version of the, because they have the U D M that's a cylinder, but then they added the udr. That's like the UDM plus other stuff, right? Yes. So it's kind of like the unify stack that can run basically two apps. So it can't do everything like the rack mounted dream machines can, so you could run say like network and security, but you couldn't run network security and pick your third one. What network security and camera, you know,

you couldn't do all those at once. So they apparently I, I was looking on B and H the other day cuz they've been outta stock for a long time and I'm really not happy with my current mesh wifi at home with these crap TP, link deco whatever they are things. So I was looking on BH photo and their thing says, oh there's a new model coming in July, 2023.

So now I'm like well the old one's been outta stock, the old one that is the new one for like the last year and a half, whatever it is because of Covid supply chain, all those things. I should just wait until the new one comes in July and then go ahead and upgrade then.

Yeah, I thought I had so now I need to go look cuz I have one that's on my, I have an alert for it to come back in stock as well because I actually want to get one of these and get one for my in-laws and put it at my in-laws because they ask me every once in a while like their internet's not working and same thing as you. Like they've tried different mesh ones and then they're like why doesn't this

work? And like, you know what if I just got them the whole unified stuff, one I'm familiar with it and two, I could remotely access it and help troubleshoot them a little bit easier than whatever random NSH one they Yep. Are trying at any given time. I think the UDR is a good option cuz it's 200 US for the base unit and then you Yep it's got poe so you can totally throw it out to like a nano or a light AP and just kind of be done with it and because it has wifi itself,

it is an access point as well. I think the only limitation, which probably isn't really a limitation for most people is that it only runs two of the applications in the unified stack. So like I said, for me I would run like you know, network and maybe pick up some cameras and do protect but I couldn't do talk or access or anything like that. So uh, you kind of have to pick and choose and and see how that's all going to

manifest and and come together for you. But yeah, you know should, shouldn't be, you know, most people don't need talk. Most people don't need access. You know some people might want, you know like U I D, like the whole unify, identity stack, all that kind of stuff. So you gotta pick and choose. I think everybody wants network so you say okay great, what's network? I need network Protect and you're kind of off the.

Real but our network can protect. Yeah, network and protect are the two IUs cuz I use network. I've thought about setting up some more cameras around the house really right now with Protect, I'm just using the doorbell, I'm using their unified doorbell, which I actually like that too. Way better than like the Google or the Ring or any of those one because it's all local like all the storage is here locally.

If my internet goes out as long as my wireless network is up, my doorbell's recording, grabbing video, all of that. And again it does tend to be a little bit more the prosumer enterprise type quality. So it just seems to work better in general. But yeah, this is the one I have the unified dream machine AX 3000 router. I have that on my list too for once it comes. And the nice thing my in-laws, it's a more of a sprawling brick.

They have some brick and it's a ranch so they have trouble with the whole getting it everywhere. So I'm like I can pick up a couple of these. They have some wireless extenders that literally you just like plug 'em into an outlet. They're, I mean they're big, they're maybe like six inches tall and four inches wide but super simple to just find an outlet that you don't ever use that's hidden behind a TV stand somewhere, pop it on the outlet and extend your wireless set up that mesh.

And I just got one of those in trying it that's been pretty good for me. Yeah and so the X 3000 is the new one that's coming in July-ish. Yeah, but I think they've had so many problems making these things it'll probably be delayed again anyway like for your parents, if they don't need wifi six, they don't need three terabytes of throughput, all those things.

Like you're better off just spending 20 bucks less and getting the one that's been in market for two years already, year and a half, two years, whatever it is and just going and and running that way. So uh, they do come in stock on the Unify site and you know if you put an alert on the Unify site for just the regular udr that's out in market today,

you should be just fine. It's basically the same capabilities other than, and the same limitations are in the AX 3000 as far as I've seen when it comes to like number of apps, it runs all those kinds of things. The big difference is the wireless band capabilities and the throughput that that brings in the, you know, AX 3000 for an extra 20 bucks. Got it. Yeah, I might have to keep an eye out for that one to come in stock.

So you know what else is coming Scott, that I kind of wanna get but I'm not gonna back. I'm gonna have to wait till it actually comes out. Have you seen this new keyboard, the flux keyboard. ? Uh, you sent me a link to this one. It is a weird one. Uh, hard to describe in audio but it's basically an O led panel but with raised keys overlaid on top of it. But then the individual keys themselves also have kind of L E D or Olad style like Chicklet keys on top of them.

This falls into one of those things. It's like oh that's really weird and probably not for me. . See I don't know, I think I could get it get on on board with this one and I don't think so. I looked at it, I don't think the keys actually have any olet on them because you can actually swap out the that top key.

I think it's just a clear key and when you look at this and you see the different icons changing in some of that, I think it's that screen on the background changing is how I interpreted it. That it's just that shining through the clear keys. But because it's all ole shining through the clear keys, they're saying that with different apps you. Can, oh it's actually HD I P S display . That's gonna be a weird one sitting down underneath. You're not gonna get cont crispy black on that.

Yeah, so if you're editing video or doing stuff like that, you can actually, you know like most of these video editings, they have keyboard shortcuts. Some of 'em you can go buy special keyboards for some of 'em you can buy like keyboard covers that have the icons on it. This you just change what the ole screen behind the keyboard displays. So you could in theory adapt it to any app. They have all kinds of visions for how this would work.

Being able to like add dials and stuff at the top or other buttons along the top of it. I will say it seems ambitious like it's the processor is built right into the keyboard to power this screen that sits behind the keyboard. So it just works over u S BBC or US B type A connections and then all the processing and everything it does is on the keyboard and even customizations to it are stored on the keyboard. And I, I saw in one comment somebody asked like, can you put movies on it?

And they said this keyboard has eight gigs of storage on it. So in theory you could put a couple movies on it and have like a full feature length movie playing on your keyboard behind your keys while you're typing. Yeah. It's. An intriguing device they've gotten, it's in Kickstarter right now. If you go sign up for it or back it, you're not gonna see your keyboard until sometime in January of 2024 if everything stays on schedule and you only save like 70 bucks.

I'll wait to see if this actually comes to fruition. Yeah, so it is also a 400 US dollar keyboard. So the comp, so the company's out of Australia, so it's 570 au which is about 3 70, 3 80 today in U S D. That's like buying a little mini computer.

It really is. Someone sent this to me and I was like huh, I kind of want one more cuz it's a gadget not, I mean customizable icons on my keys like when I'm editing stuff and da Vinci resolve, maybe it's my gadget syndrome Scott that just wants to buy it for a new gadget. You just need a new key. You're like, you're too lazy to hit like the troll everybody key on your stream deck. So you just want it to be closer on your keyboard. Now we we know what it is.

Yep, exactly. Oh, so those are my random things for today. So should we keep going with randomness or should we talk about cloud news? You had some randomness you wanted to talk about too. Yeah. Oh there's, I mean there's always randomness to talk about. Why don't we do a little bit of cloud news? So did you see that they announced Windows 365 cloud PC for frontline Frontline licenses and frontline workers? I saw the headline. I have not looked at that article at all yet. Oh, all right.

I'll kind of walk you through it a little bit cuz I think it's kind of interesting and there's uh, capabilities in there where you're like, oh yeah I, I might actually want that. Like not for my frontline workers so much but for other users in my environment as well. So you can now you have to go sign up in preview I guess is the way it's working for now. Okay.

But if you have frontline workers who could leverage cloud pc, you can allocate them this license and then you can configure them a cloud, configure a frontline cloud PC and frontline cloud PCs are just like any other cloud PC that you go ahead and provision and spin up in the fabric with a couple of key differences. So they're powered down, they're not always powered on all the time so they kind of like power on on demand, you know, when a new user logs into them.

They also have capabilities like when a user disconnects, you can configure rules around that so that you make sure that the user gets signed out so that they release their license back and then that frontline PC comes back into the pool and it's available for the next user on startups. So it's kind of a cool way to have people come in,

come in and out of PC capabilities that they need. Maybe it's like Excel word, you know, whatever that happens to be and be able to do that kind of shift worker based thing or contractor based thing with you know, how would marketing frame it like the full Windows experience and bring

that all to them. So I think that's really cool. Like if you have uh, say users on your help desk who are contractors or things like that or you just have shift workers who need those capabilities, it's kind of a little bit of a no-brainer, especially if all you wanna do is have like a thin client hanging out and you don't want to do like full PC provisioning anymore and have that stuff available to you.

Yeah and that is, I like the whole power off make it available because right now with Windows 365 enterprise, that's one differentiator I tell people, so when I go talk to people about Azure VDI versus Windows 365 cloud pc, it's very much vdi you can do that. You have a tool that people log into, log out of, they can have shared resources. All of that Windows 365 cloud PC from the enterprise side of things right now is a one-to-one relationship between a user and a pc.

There's not any ability to pool Windows 365 cloud PCs in that enterprise skew that I'm. Aware of. Yes. It's not there. So it is kind of a, like you said, it's a clear differentiator between the two of them and certainly a a nicety. So it's something to take a look. At. Yeah, for sure. And to your point about the thin client, I also see in this article that Windows 365 is now available with LGS new 2023 TVs.

So there's apparently a home office card on these LG smart TVs that now will allow you to log into Windows 365, right on a smart tv, a pair of Bluetooth keyboard and mouse then with your TV to do the whole Windows 365 cloud thing or Windows three, yeah, windows 365 Cloud pc. Right On a smart TV . So, huh. So what I need to do now is I just need to go replace my Samsung TV in the living room with an lgtv in the living room and now I just have a cloud PC right there in my living room.

If you Yeah, uh, , yeah, it's a path that you could go down if you so chose to. Not sure it's worth swapping out all the TVs in your house just yet, but you know, maybe in a couple years. Remember Scott, I like gadgets. This is just another excuse for a new gadget. This is actually. This is just helping you feed into it, huh? Exactly. I actually have something else that I want instead. Yeah. I have a different tv, a different Samsung thing TV I have my eye on.

All right, uh, so back to cloud PC real quick. There's a couple other things in here as well. So frontline Windows 365 frontline also has in addition to auto signout, it has auto lock screen which is fine, like good, you can configure that for your users.

It also has auto reset where you can effectively wipe all the data from the cloud PC at the end of a shift so you can have the PC consistently resetting its state for every new user that logs into it, which I think is kind of cool as well in like min environments where you don't really need a bunch, again, I'll, I'll go back to like the help desk situation, right? Maybe you have like a help desk support agent who's working tickets out of Jira.

Maybe they're downloading files during their session like CSV if a log that a customer uploaded kind of things and for compliance reasons you can't have it hanging around, great. You just do auto reset and that help desk engineer signs out and boom, the next one comes in. They don't get to see or have access to you like you don't have to worry about any of those things, which I think is kind of cool.

And then surprisingly for a Microsoft or Microsoft three Windows 365 feature, they kind of , they actually built a utilization report into it from the start, which is like, oh like what a great idea. Like help us operationalize this within our business and spin it up TBD if that report's actually any good. But it's nice to see it called out like in the official marketing materials that like, hey they're going down this path and they're thinking about it.

Like it's not only a a set of features that are potentially helpful to users who are gonna be under that frontline license, but also admins as well. Like kind of like giving everybody the warm fussies, you know we were talking about Loop a couple weeks ago and lack of compliance there and some of the other things that come along with it. Like this is all good stuff for Windows 365 frontline in the way that it's kind of at least framed up right now.

Yeah. I wonder if even you got me thinking about all kinds of things without a reset. Like you talked about help desk or they mentioned healthcare workers but I also wonder like you think about schools or libraries where you have students logging in and or a public computer sitting out in a computer lab where people are coming in and I mean I did it before when I was in college. You log in and like people have left files on the computer or different things

here. Having that ability to auto reset it and essentially wipe out the entire computer after anybody's session, there's a lot of benefits to being able to do that and some of these scenarios where maybe it's a public or a more public environment or that shared essentially a shared PC use case. Yeah. Could be a good one. could also be, I think it's, I think. It's dust gone every time.

It's nice just to have it as an option and not have to a, again from that admin lens, like not have to worry about it and script it out or kind of even think about how you have to clean those things up so it actually like aligns nicely to the whole frontline licensed mindset of, you know, if your users need to persist data, have them get it over into things like OneDrive for business or into SharePoint where it can be shared out and pushed across the stack A and all those good kinds of things.

So I thought that was really like good one to see get launched. So it's out in preview today. There's a form that you have to go fill out to get accepted into it. But if it's something that sounds interesting, you know, folks should go kick the tires on. It. Definitely. Do you feel overwhelmed by trying to manage your Office 365 environment? Are you facing unexpected issues that disrupt your company's productivity?

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business. You know another one, since we're talking about admin type stuff and managing PCs, there is another nice feature that hit preview that you kind of saw the writing on the walls it was coming is the ability to import custom A D MX and ADM L administrative templates into endpoint manager within essentially Intune Office 365, Microsoft 365. So for a while now they have had some custom settings in there, they've had some of the a DMX templates that

you could use. So there was a lot of controls there but now again, public preview. So the data on this is old is the data on the article that old that it popped up in my feed and I just looked at the date and it says August 17th, 2022 in my feed. Maybe it's just me but being able to import custom third party ones either way I missed it. Yeah, I did too. I want to go look at this Learn. Oh this was last updated February 22nd, 2023. I don't know why.

We'll blame R S S feeds. This does look to be new. This is still public preview, I just saw Squirrel, but it works with the endpoint manager. So you can do stuff for Google Chrome. I know Google Chrome, they provide like ADM X templates for managing their browser. So you can do some of that.

It works Windows 10, windows 11, but one of those if you are looking to kind of get away from active directory and go to the pure Azure active directory route for all your endpoint management, managing all your devices, I know this is one that a lot of people have been waiting for. Uh, a lot of customers that I've worked with that are still running hybrid mode, either they need to keep like a domain controller on-prem for servers and a whole bunch of other applications.

But I have seen a few where the only reason they're still keeping DCS around is for group policies and I get this isn't a hundred percent group policy, it's not at quite that level but it is getting closer and closer to that point where you can start managing all of those different settings, policies, configurations right from Azure AD and get a little bit closer to not needing to keep that DC around anymore. Yep. Uh, all depends on what you need, right?

And how that looks for you and and composes. So it's kind of interesting, like a super slick experience. Just go into in tune you, you've got an import button that sits there and you can go ahead and bring data in and kind of play with it as needed. It looks like there's some limitations so only yes. Yeah, US English A DML files are supported so if you have multilingual a dml you could have some issues there. Like you know, don't try this out if you're in France or Germany but uh,

if you're in the US it's fine. Or if you're users in those GOs or you know, set up the right way. They are also pretty, I think kind of tactical in the examples that they show of like A D M X templates that you can bring in. Like they call out a whole bunch of common client apps and then they just kind

of leave it there. Like I think that's a little bit of like a wink wink you, you know, hint hint kind of thing like that this isn't gonna do everything you want it to do but it could be good in these situations like you mentioned Chrome, maybe Firefox, zoom, WebEx, Adobe reader for PDFs, things like that. You know, they could all could work for you but you'd have to try it out and play with it and.

See yeah your mileage will vary. They also have some limits on how many, so it also says only a maximum or a maximum of 10 80 M MX files can be uploaded. Each file must be one megabyte or smaller. And then for each ad MX file you can only have one ad m L file that you upload. And you mentioned the English US for AD M L but it looks like ad MX is more cuz each ad MX file supports one language. So they seem to imply that maybe A D M X supports additional languages and a DML only supports in US

right now. It's a little vague there but again it's preview, I'm anticipating some of that will change once it becomes generally available. But there are some of those limitations there like you mentioned and some very specific apps they call out in that documentation. Yeah. Also like you know, uh, big P on the preview there like don't take a dependency on it for production things.

Yeah this is one because of everything you can do with A D M X and A D M L I would be be very cautious in how far I would take this while it's still in preview. last thing you wanna do is brick a whole bunch of users machines or completely break the functionality that they have. Uh, I mean you can always give it a shot, right? Like what's the worst that happens? You just take down your business for a little while. Not a big deal. Yeah, no, do it in preview.

So should we talk about the other preview feature, Scott? The other public preview that came out? Yep. Let's do one more preview. One more preview avatars for Microsoft teams. avatars. Tried Microsoft. Yes. Have you tried your teams avatar. Yet? Once and that was it. I don't know Scott. I have very mixed feelings on avatars and I think maybe we even talked about this when we were talking about co-pilot coming out and that I wish development

resources would go into something else. Uh, I see where people can like avatars so I get it. Not everybody has an office like you do or like I do or other people where you have a nice background.

There are a lot of people that are sitting in their kitchen, they're sitting in a, I mean let's face over the last three years I've talked to people that like sit in closets that sit in hallways that mm-hmm , they're finding anywhere in their house they can just sit to work and maybe they don't like the blackground blur. I also get some people are very self-conscious about what they look like on camera about how, how ready they are to be on camera.

I see avatars being a fit for that where now you can at least put a face in there, have an avatar that maybe looks sort of like you. I'm horrible at making my avatars look like me . But having some type of face that you can put up, have video, have some reactions in the video without you necessarily being on camera or showing your background or having to do virtual backgrounds or blur your background. I can see where some people like avatars from that perspective.

And I guess from my perspective of talking to people, I would prefer talking to an avatar than just a box with two initials in it. All that being said, they still tend to feel a little, I don't, they still tend to feel a little gimmicky for me the reactions like you push reaction buttons now to get reactions. So even though someone gives you a reaction in an avatar, it's not your true reaction. It's the button you hit to react.

They look cartoony. I still prefer a real person's face at the end of the day, I don't care what your background looks like, I don't care what you look like, I'm not gonna judge your background. I'm not gonna judge your appearance on camera. I just prefer to see a real person on camera when I'm on a virtual meeting. Yeah, I'm with, with you on all of that.

Like camera off or camera on is is just a binary thing and I, I don't fault anybody for you know, not going camera on like I basically have a really expensive fancy webcam cuz I use this camera for other things. I still don't turn it on all the time.

Like there's totally times where kids are behind me, dogs are behind me, like whatever's happening it's like a, I'm just not gonna turn it on and and you know make people put up with that or frankly I don't wanna turn all the lights on , I've got like can lights above me, I've got key lights over here, there's just all this stuff and I'm like I don't want to turn all that on just for a meeting and have a big light shining in my face the entire time that I'm

doing all this. So I'm with you. Avatars are weird. I think they're super weird in VR environments let alone in in kind of the current state and they're even weirder to me like for the couple times I've seen them use like people are still using their virtual backgrounds with them . So I'm used to seeing lots of people, like you said like lots of us are still working from home, we'd all don't have dedicated offices or you just wanna like hide the mask.

So like lots of people use virtual backgrounds in those meetings and when you do that and all of a sudden you go from like being used to seeing a person there and now it's an avatar, it's a little even more of like a cognitive jump to make it all work. But I like the idea of like being able to like configure something that you think represents you. You know, like you mentioned you can't ever really make avatars look like you. That kind of like sucks have to feel that way.

But for people who can configure an avatar where they think it either looks like them or it looks like a version of them that they would like to be like, I think that's all well and good and and really awesome. I think it'd be kind of cool if you could maybe as like a meeting administrator or something like that say like, hey if like we're gonna have avatars in the meeting, everybody's avatars or everybody's not avatars kind of thing.

It's a little bit weird to have the mix and match but uh, at the end of the day, like that's only weird to me. So I guess uh, everybody can do themselves like you do you at the end of the day and I'm like you, I'm not gonna complain about it. Like camera on camera off avatar round, avatar off virtual background, like whatever it is. Like I totally get it. There's way other, there's a ton of other things to worry about in the world besides avatars but

they are capability. The other thing that's interesting uh, about avatars is it's just more like GPU constraints on top of the teams client. So I would be willing to bet you're a little bit like me in that you interact with customers from kind of multiple ecosystems. So you probably play around in Slack and WebEx and Zoom and Google Meet and kind of all the other things that are out there.

Teams continues to drag any computer I have to its knees regardless of the setup for it, Mac, windows, whatever it is. Like you and I are sitting here right now like we're both on kind of M one Pro whatever Macs that are pretty beefy as soon as I start this meeting up every week it's like whoop. Yep there goes some RAM usage just as like GPU and and other things kicks in. So it's more overhead on PCs as well, which I don't know that I'm a fan of in general with the teams' client.

Just being where the team's client is at in general even with the new preview version. So you know TBD to see how that bakes out over time as well. Yeah, it would be interesting to turn avatars on. It just looked on my Mac right now. My Microsoft teams helper renderer is using 225.9% of my CPU on a Mac. How anything can use more than a hundred percent, I still don't quite understand.

But then like my next highest ones are ironically other Microsoft ones, it's Windows server and or Windows server that's not Microsoft Windows server is managing all my layout on my monitors, but then my third highest one is actually OneDrive and then Ed just like the fifth one down, I. Can't run OneDrive on my Mac anymore. It just doesn't start so I it just broke. Can't solve it.

Yeah, but I do I get what you're saying because it is definitely going to be more resource intensive to do avatars I think than stream video. You're rendering your avatars but you're also not necessarily processing all that video. So it would be interesting to do a comparison there on resource utilization on avatars versus normal video. I. Think you're still processing the video cuz the avatar is watching your video. That's the other part of it. is like as you're moving and speaking some like,

yeah it's quite the trip. Like if nobody's tried it, I think you should at least try it so you understand the creation experience, which is pretty expansive. Like you can go down this path of, of getting like super configurable with it. But then also just the experience of avatars in meetings. If anything maybe so it's not jarring for you the first time you see it.

I will say that I was very impressed when I went in to create avatars on the level of customizability that they did build into creating avatars. There are a lot of options in there when you go create an avatar. So like you, I would absolutely go give it a shot once and see how it works. Sorry, I had to move it. I feel like there was something else I was gonna say and I forgot what I was

gonna say. Avatars, oh, I think end of the day, again, I don't have a problem with 'em but I, it doesn't feel like in an enterprise solution there's other things I would've preferred to see Microsoft do when it comes to enterprise applications that really enhance my work or help me be more productive. Again, I compare this to like copilot and I feel like copilot hands down is gonna be way more productive. Something I'd mu use much more regularly than something like avatars and

enhance my work life. Not just be, again, I don't wanna say it's gimmicky, but it feels more gimmicky. , who knows? Someday we'll all see you. The additional pricing for co-pilot, which I have to imagine is coming great. It's gotta, gotta cost something extra. It's. It's got to. . That's gonna be the one where you go like, Ooh, maybe I really don't need that for everybody kind of thing. Yes. So who knows, maybe we'll be surprised. We shall see. Good chat as always and uh. Absolutely we'll.

Get to chat again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Same bad time, same bed channel. We're doing a stream, but that'll be before anybody hears this, so that's irrelevant. But enjoy your weekend. . That's why I didn't mention it. But thanks for bringing it up. Hey, anytime, if you wanna see the next one, go set up for membership and you can see not the one we'll do in like four days, but the one we'll do in like 18 days or something like that. All. Right, perfect. Thanks.

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