Welcome to episode 326 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast recorded live on March 17th, 2023. This is a show about Microsoft 365 and Azure from the perspective of it pros and end users where we discuss the topic or recent news and how it relates to you. We kick off today's episode by discussing a listener question about various ways to run study groups for certifications or frankly any topic using Microsoft Teams and other Microsoft 365 resources.
We talk about various learning resources, reviews for studying for exams as well. Next we discuss Microsoft's recent announcement about Microsoft 365 co-pilot and bringing AI into the Microsoft 365 apps and ecosystem. Did you see there's some buttons on Stream deck? It's a stream deck plugin that is not the team stream bill plugin, which is Rereleased in which is we released and in my opinion, works much better than it did a month ago when it was first released.
But there's another plugin reflight checklist that it like puts virtual toggles on your stream deck so you can go in and like toggle stuff as you get your setup. So if you have all the stuff you need to do for the podcast, like turn on the lights and select the right mic and close the blind and mute your monitor speakers and all of that. You can like create a toggle for each one and go through your stream deck and toggle switches as you hit your pre-flight checklist.
I just automate all that stuff. So it's a multi action for me. I just hit one button and it goes, do, do, do. And it kicks everything, right? The stack. Yeah, it's magical. Highly recommended. Yes, I should. But then when your script breaks, you gotta go troubleshoot it. . Yeah, there's stuff that you gotta do there. But that's my pre-flight checklist, although it's, yeah, arguably most of it is just habit. Now you wouldn't like to think except for maybe selecting the right camera.
But anyways, that is my stream deck plugin of the day. Aside from the teams one, which have you tried the teams one, has it been working better for you? I have. It does work better. I had to go through and regenerate all the API keys, which is still weird, strange, broken, only appears in the client, sometimes inconsistent. But once you get it set up, it does just kind of work and do what it needs to do.
So now I can go and and do my waves and my hand raises and, and all the things just from a simple button press. And you can send me hearts and teams . I can if, if that's really what you want, we can sit here and do that all day. But. Uh, I don't need heart and Teams. The one I was disappointed though, that's gone. Did you see they pulled the record button. From it? No, I didn't notice that one.
I wonder if that has to do with some of the compliance stuff, but then again it wouldn't because people can get their compliance on their own way. I don't. Know. Yeah, I wondered about that too. If it had to do with compliance or if it had to do with the, remember the feature where it's like exclusive. We talked about it a few weeks ago. It wasn't exclusive recording permissions, but essentially every user in the meeting has the ability to accept or decline
recording and I didn't know if it had something to do with that. But again, the host is still triggering the record and they're just accepting or denying the permission to record or maybe it's part of the bug and why it all got pulled for a month and they couldn't figure out or fix whatever they needed to. So they just re-released it without record. Your guess is as good as mine. That's the one I actually wanted cuz I like just being able to hit a button and
record my meetings and it wasn't there. . Oh well you could still hotkey it though. I could still hotkey it. I could set my meetings to just record automatically or I could just use the UI and hit the record button in the team's client itself. But we ended Scott, last week we said we were gonna take at least one listener question and we have a listener question in here and this was from a pirate in our Discord chat that is part of his username and he is at his company.
They're looking at this shift from Microsoft Partners or Shift with Microsoft Partners, which let me tell you this is as a Microsoft partner, I have opinions on this that we will not get into. But the amount of certifications that are now required for solution partner designations, which is taking the place of the silver and gold partnership is now you have these solution partner designations. He wanted to use teams to set up study groups, share study resources, et cetera.
They haven't really done this before at their company. They use teams for all sorts of other things and they were wondering if uh, anyone had any success with this type of thing In the past in terms of like using teams for study groups, they've gone in, started setting up some different teams and set up like channels
for different certifications. So whatever those Microsoft certifications are, have a different channel for each one where they included stuff like the PDF study guides, Microsoft lists where people can add links to trainings, articles they found other useful information, all of that. And then he was just, anybody got any other ideas on ways you could leverage different solutions, different stacks? Just helping kind of prepare fellow employees in this case for certifications?
This is an interesting one. Did , I don't know how much time people spend in Microsoft documentation, but I feel like I spend way too much time living in there. Did you know that the teams team as a part of the teams for education component, they have a whole, you know how they do teams for education and I always forget about this. So my wife's an assistant principal and her school system is a team subscriber. So she's always coming to me asking me questions about things and teams where I
go, I didn't know teams could do that. Like why is it even stop that way? Yeah, they are very good in teams for education about giving prescriptive guidance to users, be it teachers or students. So one of the things that they have out there is they actually have an, an article it's, it falls under the student help center and it's ISA group project in Microsoft teams and it kind of walks you through step one, Hey what would you do? Why would you create a team?
What types of channels might you want to have in that team? Once you get it going, what can you use that team for? Once it's there like the ability to easily kick off group calls, you might want to collaborate on documents. It even goes so far as saying like, Hey go ahead and spin up a OneNote so that you can have a shared note interface as you're going through and doing that. So that was kind of like my first thing.
I was like, I think I've seen this before because my wife asked me a question about it. It's like, yeah, sure enough there's a help doc out there out there for it. So I think it's a great idea, right? If if everybody's licensed for it, it certainly all just kind of comes together and just works. I can think of a couple things that you might want to turn on as like plus ones to say, Hey, this team as a study group kind of thing could be a little bit more helpful for everybody.
So in addition to something like OneNote for collaborative note taking, maybe you want to spin up a planner plan to be able to have kind of a shared
task board for people. Like hey, we're gonna go and study like say you're studying for the a AC 1 0 4 and there's that component in there about we all need to go learn about Rach and the difference between a management group an A A D tenant and how it filters down to a subscription and we, we can kind of uh, do practical application of uh, identity access management with within all these various scopes within Azure. That might just be something like you want to tackle and put out there as a task
to everybody. Like okay, we're all gonna go learn about this. And then maybe even do like follow ons for things like have task assignments for let's all go do this lab. You know, there's a bunch of like in at least Microsoft certification land, there's a bunch of hands on labs and things that exist out there. You might wanna have links to those or links to GitHub repos, anything like that within the teams side of the house.
So I think there's a whole bunch of different things that you could do there along the way. For sure. And there's another one. So I've contributed to some of these, I don't know, some of these are getting a little outdated but out on GitHub from the build five nine guys, we know a couple of the guys over there there that do the whole build five nine s newsletter, but they have a GitHub repo that I've updated a few exam assessments in there as well before.
But it's a whole bunch of spreadsheets where we've essentially gone through those PDFs that this listener referenced where it has a breakdown of all kinda the high level areas.
It gives a percentage of uh, how much of the exam is on a certain topic and then it breaks down like subtopics within there and these spreadsheets you can kind of go in and rank how well you know each one of those topics and it gives you a little bit of a calculation in terms of based on how well you know it, how well positioned are you to pass the exam.
So being able to put that in there, maybe link to some of these Excel spreadsheets, they're pretty straightforward to update if you go in and look at 'em again, they aren't GitHub, go download it, update the formulas with some of the new exam stuff. But these we found helpful as well when you're kind of preparing for certain exams. So that's another resource. The listener also said, so he's actually chatting right now with us too in Discord.
He's part of our Discord membership and he also said that he created a power app in teams to track certifications that people have, track which certifications people are working on and even find like what other users are working on the same certifications so that they can kind of buddy up, find someone else in the company that's working on the same certification, working on the same certification path so they can work together and study it
and then even add it a part in it where the leaders can see how they're progressing toward the different solution partners. So these solution partner areas, you need very so many people to have certain certifications, some at a basic level, some at a more advanced level. So he built in a whole analytics part so they can even track who has what exams, where are we, what do we still need, who's working on it,
who's not working on it, that type of stuff. So that's, yeah, kind of a cool power app to build and help track all of that within that same area. You can build it or if you're licensed for it, you can also use something like Viva learning to do that. Like you could track and do assignments of hey go take this certification and do there and and be able to track that within the Viva stack as well if you wanted to keep it all in-house without having to build an app.
But you know, then there's the licensing component of it and uh, like you said, the partner side, the ever-changing landscape of with certification, do I need to get this month, week, year, whatever it happens to be, to carry things through and and get them where to where they need to. Be. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else you could do. I mean you could always kind of along the whole teams thing.
I don't know that I stray too much outside of that, especially if you are a partner working in teams, like why build stuff outside of teams to do it? But you can also put YouTube channels and embed YouTube videos in those teams channels. I know there's a fair amount of YouTube videos, different people that have created video content towards certain exams too. I think at least on the M 365 side of things, I think Vlad has done a ton of
videos based around certain exams. I know there's some things on Pluralsight, Pluralsight to your point with Viva Learning, Pluralsight, LinkedIn learning, some of those integrate with Viva learning based on your licensing there. So being able to incorporate some of that stuff in as well could be helpful.
But I like the whole concept of let's just create a channel for each one of these exams so people can share information around prepping form and studying form 'em obviously without violating any NDAs that you sign at the beginning of taking these exams . But yeah, it's uh, it's kind of a cool idea. Since we're on the topic. I think maybe a couple of other resources that are out there. So you mentioned YouTube videos in Azure Land, there's a Microsoft Cloud solution architect,
his name is John SK Seville. I always mess up his name and I'm so sorry, but he does these amazing just free YouTube videos. So he calls them his masterclass and they kind of take you end to end through any number of things. So he has like an Azure masterclass, he has specific classes that he refreshes regularly around the Azure certifications. So I would kind of recommend those to everyone.
And another one that I've seen, and I don't know if you've seen this, if you go to learn azure.app, there's a, it's an Android app, it's an app store app, uh, like iOS app store. It also has a mobile web app and a Windows store app and it has coverage for a bunch of different exams across the Azure and M 365 stack as well. And that's all out there and free with, you know, sample questions,
all that good kind of stuff. Like if you don't want to go and pay for that or, or have it out there and you're just looking for like free resources, hey, let's get started with this. Got it. Have you noticed some of the exams, I don't remember if we talked about this or not, some of the exams and learn the exam prep and learn and learning pads actually have practice exams built right into Microsoft Learn as well. They. Do. I find they're hit or miss. Hit. Or miss, yeah. Oh, absolutely.
I feel like it's like some of the 100 and 900 levels tend to have 'em, not so much those middle of the road, like the 3, 4, 500 level ones. Which is al I think sometimes like you're very better off going for community supported things in this case. Like my experience has been that they are kept more up to date sometimes than the Microsoft material, which is kind of sad, kind of scary, but it, it is, it is what it is kind of thing.
The other thing that I would encourage here is everybody learns different ways, right? So you wanna make sure that hey, if you're gonna build a compendium of resources that that has coverage for everything from videos to documents, like certainly go ahead and do all that. I also would not discount hands-on learning. I'll put a link in the show notes to the Azure administrator, the AZ 1 0 4 repo out on GitHub.
But if you went to Microsoft and you took a certification course, like say you're a, you say you're a Microsoft customer and you're getting like a, a Microsoft trainer to come in and, and talk to you and teach you like a four day course on the AZ 1 0 4, all those labs that you would do as part of the course just out on GitHub sitting there ready to go. So, you know, go ahead and go through those as well.
Like you don't necessarily need to pay for a class to get hands-on, you can totally go spin up a free subscription and get hands-on with one of those things. Like yeah, when I was running practices around like partners, I would always make sure that my folks were getting HandsOn with the technology. Like the certification for the most part is just a checkbox.
Like anybody can, I, I really think anybody can go and like, if they really want to, and depending on like how ethical they're about it, like, you know, you can just go grab a brain dump and pay for it and pass that test. I don't think it's, you know, the right thing to do, but there's certainly people that do it and there's lots of partners that treat the checkbox as just that it's a checkbox and it's a way into the system.
Yep. But ultimately, like if you're building out a consultancy or a practice around this where you have to do delivery, then you have to get out there and get people hands on with it. And hopefully you're doing that in a structured way. You're not going to somebody and saying like, Hey, go learn static web apps. Like, you know, somebody might be able to do that,
but most people won't be able to. You're gonna want to give them some kind of a, a structured path to get in there and get hands on with it. Yeah. Another thing going into different learning styles, something that we've done a lot of, and I've done some essentially paid exam prep engagements where it's going in and working with 20, 30 students for several hours to just kind of go
over the topics that are on the exams. Again, being very careful not to violate nd any NDAs and stuff, but going over topics. But then we've also taken the time to go in and write sample questions kind of sitting down through the topics and thinking of the way Microsoft tends to write exams and coming up with practice questions.
And then there's software that we've used that's meant to meter and actually created, you can do it with an an online where you as the presenter have access to the questions, all of that. You give students a link and they can go in and see the question and then select the right answer. And then you compare like 10 people thought this was the right answer, 15 people thought this was the right answer. And then afterwards actually sit in and discuss as a group
of why is something the right answer? Why is it the wrong answer? Why did you answer this way versus that way? And it does, it facilitates more than just the clicking a checkbox and answering a question, but really starting to get people to think about why they insert a question a certain way or discussing it of why is something the right answer versus the wrong answer or why would you choose this technology versus that technology in
an area? Granted this takes more time, it is not an insignificant amount of work to go in and create 20 or 25 practice questions like that. But I've found discussing questions and answers with a group of people really helps you not only practice, but understand how you might need to think or answer different questions. 100%. And you know, if you're looking, I think a good place to find those questions is something like Microsoft Learn, like specifically the, the learn modules that are out there.
So there's a bunch of written text kind of modules that you can do as well. And if you go into those modules, particularly within the learning path for one of these, so again, you do the AZ 2 0 3, AZ 1 0 4, 1 of the M 365 CERT's, whatever it happens to be, they will typically have some form of knowledge assessment associated with them and you know, hey, multiple choice, select your answer kind of thing. And if you get it wrong, it'll tell you, oh, you know,
here's why you might have got it wrong. So you might want to do, like, don't reinvent the wheel basically, like, you don't have to go out and write all these things from scratch. But, uh, there's a whole ton of resources out there I think that can help you rationalize what you want to do and, and how you wanna approach it. I think the thing, like I said that I've realized over time is if you're going to give people structured learning, you have to give them multiple ways to do that learning.
For me, I'm somebody who I'd rather read a book than watch a video, but there's a whole bunch of people that would rather watch a video or there's a whole bunch of people that want to just listen to it in audio. Like they might point an audio reader at it and let it spill back a bunch of documentation to them, things like that. So, you know, you have to recognize that about people in teams as well.
Like everybody's gonna learn differently. They might come and learn at the, you know, their own pace and then you come back to it as a team review, move on to the next step. But I, I love the idea of like, hey, let's structured go through, you know, approaching a certification, like here's a module or a component of that, we're gonna take a week, everybody's gonna learn together.
Maybe you host some office hours and you run those meetings in teams, you got a shared calendar, all that good kind of stuff and then you move on and you have a. Good day. Definitely. All right, great ideas. And if you're in Discord too, there is a bunch of lively discussion going on and some examples of what uh, different people have done for trading teams, setting up these channels, et cetera. Do you feel overwhelmed by trying to manage your Office 365 environment?
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business. So with that, should we move on to a new topic? New topic? Let's do it. a new topic. Should we talk about co-pilots or co-pilot? Let's talk about co-pilot. Co-pilot is, uh, it's the new co-pilot, not to be confused with GitHub co-pilot and all the other co-pilots that already existed. Or the power platform co-pilot that already existed as well.
This is the Microsoft 365 co-pilot and I have seen more discussion around the proper way to spell hyphenate and Case the word co-pilot in the last 24 hours since this was announced than I have ever seen in my life. I even saw a tweet from somebody today about, there may be a proper way to spell co-pilot, but it, when it comes to Microsoft co-pilot, this is the proper way to spell it.
Yes, . So even in the blog post that announces it, like, hey, this is introducing Microsoft 365 co-pilot capital c co-pilot Dash, your co-pilot for work, all lowercase , no hyphens, anything like that. It's, it's a wonderful thing. I think it's gonna be really cool. Like we talked a little bit about chat G P T and some of the things that were
going on with the new Bing service and all of that a couple weeks ago. Uh, and a little bit about GitHub co-pilot there, like I don't know if you've had a chance to get hands-on with that service, but GitHub co-pilot being an AI that can help you write code like hey, I have this simple function or method that I need to author needs to do this, this and this. Like help me put that program together.
It can absolutely do those kinds of things and get hub co-pilot is, uh, I, hmm, it's got a little bit less of like the disinformation thing going on than something like chat G P T does I think, but at the same time, like it's like Stack Overflow. You can't just copy and paste it and you know, take that it's gonna work. You still have to go back and vet it kind of thing.
Tell us a little bit about this co-pilot. So we have chat G P T, like go ahead and search and do your AI over there we have things like GitHub co-pilot, help me write code, what is Microsoft 365 co-pilot?
So Microsoft 365 co-pilot is taking something similar I would say to what we have in GitHub or chat G B T where you're essentially giving it, go do this for me and it uses ai, whether it's chat, G P T, open ai, it's using that in the background to perform different actions primarily in the office applications in the announcement and you can go watch the release too.
They did like a whole one hour video release yesterday from when we were, no, not yesterday, I don't know the 15th March 15th I think it was, was the actual date. But it's primarily word Excel, PowerPoint Outlook and Teams is where Microsoft 365 co-pilot is gonna be. And it's very much I would say taking the chat G P T type experience in putting it into these different tools.
So in Word telling it to draft a two page project proposal is one of the examples they give or draft a policy about Microsoft 365 security. It will go in and start writing that.
But it also can do things like after you write it, let's say you actually do write something for scratch, from scratch or you take one of these drafts because again, my mindset is you're still treating these as drafts, it's not gonna create a finished polished paper for you, but go in and tell it to take this paragraph and make it more concise.
I have tendencies, I can get ramly sometimes in my paragraphs, but make it more concise or change the tone of the document to be more casual or more formal. Taking actions within these different applications where you can essentially tell it to go do something and it will excel. You can say, go create charts on this data or arrange my data in a certain way, filter my data in a certain way and create different models for me based on this
data PowerPoint. I think you even started to see some of this. Microsoft already can do different designs, it can reformat it. There's already, I think it's PowerPoint designer where it uses a little bit of AI once you create a slide and says maybe you wanna arrange it this way or rearrange your slide that way. So things like that and PowerPoint outlook. This one's my favorite one, Scott right here, they gave this example, summarize the emails I missed while I was out last week.
I can now come home from vacation and ask Outlook to gimme a summary of everything I missed. Hopefully it works because frankly that would be really nice, especially if you can say, summarize everything I missed and then delete all the emails. I could have used that today after being off for two days. I, I walked in this morning and I looked at my mailbox and I just kind of threw up my hands and said, uh, I need to block my calendar and take the whole day off to do nothing but email triage.
I think like there is genuine value in a bunch of that stuff and the value almost doesn't become the, like the, you know, the AI model. It's that the AI model really has access to all this data, right? So if you give it access to your mailbox and people are doing things where you live in the Microsoft ecosystem, it's very likely that you might have gotten an email with a link to a spreadsheet in it. So it can help you understand all that without you having to go into Outlook and
do some complicated search. Like, Hey, I was waiting for that email from Ben and he said he was gonna send me a spreadsheet, so let me do a search from Ben has attachments. Yes. You know, like what type of file was it? Anything like that and have it all bring it back to you. So I think that that's all like business productivity. Goodness. And, and I'm totally behind the summarization components of all of this.
Like I, I, I love that idea and kind of the simplicity there like and, and really making everybody's lives a little bit simpler. Some of the things where these are going to write text for you or do things like that. Like I don't, I don't know that stuff still scares me a little bit. Like just knowing that computers are computers and they're only gonna ever do really what humans have programmed in to do . Like yes, no matter how far we we get with some of this stuff. So that's a little bit weird.
Like I've seen some demos and I had a coworker showing me the other the other day, some of the, what is it, the Viva sales stuff? The, the basically the co-pilot integration for Dynamics. Okay. It's kind of cool kind of nifty, but I don't know that I want the little AI in the background writing each one of my emails in just like wholesale and me really getting too lazy about it and saying like, ah, I'm not gonna check that. Like it wrote two of them and it was good.
So I send the third one and it ends up that it's just completely off the. Rails. I'm with you. Like I've used it again to generate some drafts with chat G P T, but I am definitely much more excited about some of the summarization stuff. Some people mention too in the Discord chat, like being able to speed up note taking, give me a summary of the notes from this meeting that I had in teams or scan my inbox and create me a task list of everything that I should do this week
based on emails I've gotten. Because I know I'm guilty of that. I get an email and I forget about it and I don't add it to a task list and all of a sudden it's like, ah, I forgot to do that. Having the AI be able to kind of sort through some of that stuff and summarize it, create a task list for me. I think there's some real benefit there. And along with this, they also introduced business chat and I think there's, there's some subtle differences here.
Like copilot is a little bit more, it's more productized focused. You'll have co-pilot and teams and Word and all of that. Then you also have business chat that is tying uh, the open AI models into the Microsoft graph and it's actually kind of taking AI then and working across everything. Documents, presentations, emails, calendars, notes and contacts.
So bringing all those sources together where now instead of just summarizing my emails, you're saying summarize everything from, and this another example from them, a customer escalation. So I got Chad's emails, documents about an outage last night, give me a summary across all of my data about what happened or update me on a particular project where you're maybe pulling from PowerPoint presentations and emails and Word documents. I think again in that summarization there's some benefit there.
And uh, I mean business chat, yeah, it's using AI to generate it, but Graff already has access to all of this stuff. So it's not like you're necessarily opening this up to anything new. It's just a new Microsoft 365 service
working with your data. Another one I saw, Scott, this one could be cool and I was chatting with somebody else that kind of brought this up is you write a document or a PowerPoint presentation and how often do you have to go back and like put it in your template, you forgot to start with a template or you have a certain template you need to
follow. If you could tell the co-pilot to say, okay, now go take this presentation or this Word document or this text, input it in my company template, stuff like that, or format all of my slides the same way, a PowerPoint slide where we have like 10 different font because you pulled stuff from different places. Mm-hmm and your themes are all jacked up. But using AI to go in and kinda reformat your documentation for you in that company standard template or with those company standards on it.
I think there's real value in this stuff. I know there's all the talk about, you know, how disruptive this is all gonna be. Honestly, I think it's kind of fun like when new technologies like this are coming and they're just like going like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right? Like, like we started with chat G P T and g p t three and you know, Dolly and staple diffusion and just all these things that can generate everything from text to you video to images and
like it's moving at this like really great pace. You know, it's like the early days of CPUs and like Moore's laws just like cranking right along. Like we're improving, we're improving, we're improving. And that part of it's super fun. I don't know how long it all takes to bake out though. It'll be pretty interesting I think to revisit some of this stuff and you know, a year or two years and see what really baked out, what stuck,
what just turned out to be straight up bad idea. Like, oops, , maybe we shouldn't have done that. I think it's an interesting time for everybody trying to figure it out. Certainly you've got open AI out there, you know, you've got Microsoft investing heavily in a open ai, you've got Google with Bard, you've got all these different kind of models kicking along. Ethics is gonna be a huge thing.
I thought it was interesting that at the same time, basically at the same time Microsoft was announcing that they're doing M 365 co-pilot, it also came out that they just fired their entire AI ethics team. So it's like, uh, I don't know if that's the best time to do that. Yeah. But uh, Sure. Like go ahead. That's okay. So, you know, I, I do wonder about some of that stuff. Like I now there's no dedicated team just thinking about ethics of these
ais at Microsoft. Like that's a little scary to me. You know, we've certainly seen where things like chatbots can go off the rails and start out with the best of intentions and within a week of open user training on the internet, all of a sudden they're like some of the worst racists out there. Like it, it's a thing that can happen and without somebody thinking about it and constantly like poking and prodding and saying, Hey, should we do this?
I don't know about some of those things and how it all, you know, bakes out in the end. Yeah. Like you said, the whole ethics ai, how this bakes out. On the flip side, I will say other announcements that have come out recently, I think about things like SharePoint spaces and uh, even some of the mesh stuff. Like I know Microsoft has a vision for that. This type of stuff I actually see, at least from my perspective, has more business benefit.
I can see a lot more advantages to this where some of the other stuff I'm still struggling a little bit to see like do we really need that? I mean SharePoint spaces especially, I feel like it was a big deal when it was announced four years ago and it's just kind of fizzled, . I mean maybe it's kind of turned into mash some form or fashion, but this one I actually do. I don't know how long it's gonna take.
The other thing that'll be really interesting with this is to see what the pricing and licensing for the sunset being everything I have seen open ai, ai, all the, the modeling training, all of this is not an insignificant cost to run all of this. So what is it gonna take or what types of licenses are gonna be required to enable this across your Microsoft 365 stack? It's not no cost, but I don't know that it's necessarily
maybe as expensive as some people are thinking about. So, you know, I would go take a look at the pricing for cognitive services and ultimately like chat G P T, you know, G P T 3.5 Turbo, whatever it is, is part of that cognitive services and Azure open AI service offering on the backend. So it does all have public pricing and it's basically today for things like Dolly, it's cost per 100 images. So every hundred images I'm gonna generate, it's this much money.
And some of that stuff is more expensive, like generating an image or a video is more computationally expensive, more GPU bound than even some of the language models. So like that stuff gets pretty expensive. Like I was looking, uh, so east US for Dolly is $2 per 100 images. Like okay, that could add up pretty quickly. Like if I'm doing an image generation as a service kind of thing. Yep. But some of the models, so like chat G P T is 0 cents per 1000
tokens. So every, okay, 1000 chats, I'm at 0 cents. Like that starts to be not the cheapest thing, but it's probably not highly uneconomical either. Especially considering you didn't have to write the AI train it yourself on all the data that's out there. It'll be interesting. I'm curious. Hopefully it's, I would love to see it included. I don't know that we'll get quite that lucky, but hopefully it won't be that high of a barrier to entry or maybe it'll be included in my E five license. Yeah.
Or my team's premium license or my other add-on license or the other add-on license. It. It's gonna be part of that $150 that you're spending a month already. I just had to upp my license again, Scott, that's a whole nother discussion for another day. Has to do with teams, room devices in a change. Microsoft made to licensing teams room devices. Sean said E seven licenses that would, you know, it's not a bad idea. They should have an E seven license that just includes everything.
So I don't have to pay for five different add-ons. Just, just make it as expensive as you can and put it right in front of me. And totally go do an E seven for sure. Yeah, 100%. So side topic, last thing I guess before we go, I could keep talking. I have a couple more things. Did you see in the chat G P T four stuff that they actually put a disclaimer in there that chat G P T is prone to hallucinations ? Yes. AI can't hallucinate. Uh, it was an interesting choice of.
Of. Verbiage and a way to describe it. Humans are capable of disassociating and hallucinating, but uh, AI is not so much. Yeah, it made me laugh. Like I saw that show up on Twitter. It was like, okay, did they really use hallucinations and ai And yes, it absolutely says that Jet G p t be warned Jet G P T can hallucinate. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah, man. Who knew it happens, right? You got, you got, you gotta watch out for these things. We'll see where it all goes.
Yep. But with that we should probably wrap up. We've been going for a little bit today. We should. I lost track of time. We are at time. Yes. Well thanks Scott. Interesting discussion all about learning and AI and all of the new technology, goodness, and learning all. About it. As always. Go enjoy your weekend. It was fun. Thanks to everybody who joined us in the chat today, that's always fun as well. Love having you all here and we'll see you next week.
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