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Masters in Travel

Whitney Shindelar and Brianna Glennwww.mastersintravelpod.com
Join Whitney & Brianna as they explore how successful travel advisors grow travel businesses and what advice do they have for other travel entrepreneurs. Tune in each week for conversations about all things growing and scaling a successful travel business, hearing stories from various industry professionals, unfiltered conversations about business fails and successes, and more. Masters in Travel is for travel advisors who are ready to accelerate their success. Subscribe, rate, share, and tune in each week for advice, insights, and resources to maximize your travel business potential!
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Episodes

Ep 247 The Freedom of Financial Clarity

Financial clarity might not sound glamorous—but it’s one of the most powerful tools for building a sustainable, confident business. In this conversation, Brianna Glenn and Kinaya Pettiford of Atlas & Ledger explore how clean books lead to calm decision-making, why clarity unlocks freedom, and simple steps to start managing your money with confidence instead of avoidance.

Oct 21, 202543 minEp. 247

Ep 246 Shop Talk: Busy seasons, owning outcomes, and shaping your work lifestyle

October’s Shop Talk is full of honesty, exhaustion, and big-picture reflection. Whitney shares how an overwhelming travel season pushed her to rethink her team structure and workflows—and what needs to change before next year. Brianna reflects on her own delegation journey, what it means to truly give team members ownership, and how she decides when to let go of personal preferences in favor of team growth. Together, they talk about balancing high-volume success with sustainability, taking sabba...

Oct 14, 202534 minEp. 246

Ep 245 How Travel Advisors can be found in the age of AI search

Search is changing faster than ever—and it’s not just about Google anymore. As AI-powered platforms like ChatGPT and Perplexity reshape how travelers look for information, the rules of online visibility are shifting. In this conversation, Brianna Glenn and SEO strategist Meg Clarke of Clapping Dog Media break down what travel advisors need to know to stay discoverable. From optimizing for engagement and authority to showing up consistently across platforms, Meg shares practical steps to help you...

Oct 07, 202543 minEp. 245

Ep 244 What travel advisors need to know about Seville [from The Hivemind Podcast]

This week, we are previewing an episode from newly launched The Hivemind Podcast. For more episodes like this, add it to your weekly podcast roundup (new episodes release on Thursdays.) Seville embodies what travelers imagine when they think of ‘classic Spain’—flamenco, tapas, Moorish palaces, and lively plazas. Sam Lister, Founder & CEO at Tailormade, shares why this southern city is both a cultural icon and a versatile base for travel advisors planning Spain. From must-sees like the Cathed...

Sep 30, 202548 minEp. 244

Ep 243 Introduction to Brava

In this episode, Whitney sits down with Jeremy Sulek—CEO/Owner of Jetset World Travel and founder of Brava—to unpack a new, advisor-first approach to commissions. Brava aims to decouple commission payments from host agencies so advisors can own their bookings, get paid faster, and give suppliers clear visibility into which advisors are actually driving sales. They discuss why the current agency-centered system creates misaligned incentives, and how shifting to advisor ownership unlocks flexibili...

Sep 23, 202550 minEp. 243

Ep 242 3 signs you’ve outgrown your business model

Many travel advisors hit a stage where their business is running, clients are happy, and revenue looks strong — but behind the scenes, it still feels harder than it should. In this solo episode, Brianna shares the three clear signs that you’ve outgrown your current business model and offers quick, practical wins to help you step into the next phase of growth. From recognizing when you’re the bottleneck, to patching hidden leaks in your workflows, to aligning your marketing with the business you’...

Sep 16, 202531 minEp. 242

Ep 241 Building a Team

When your calendar is full but your goals are bigger, something has to change. In this candid conversation, Ali Raymer (Picture This Travel) shares how she scaled from solo advisor to leading a 6-person team—owning mistakes, codifying training, and letting go of control to protect life outside of work. Expect practical frameworks, real client-experience lessons, and permission to build the support you need to grow sustainably.

Sep 09, 202554 minEp. 241

Ep 240 Shop Talk: Biz Huddle, AI trends, how to scale without burnout

And we're back with newly recorded content! Picking up with a Shop Talk check in. We unpack the difference between trip operations and business operations, how project tools like Asana and ClickUp can run an entire agency, and why protecting client data with clear roles is non-negotiable. Plus: Brianna shares fresh takeaways from the Biz Huddle conference and strategies to make your content more discoverable in the AI era.

Sep 02, 202549 minEp. 240

Ep 239 [REPLAY} Client Experience Series: Five areas of business that impact a client's experience

In this second episode of our 4-part client experience series, we explore five top areas of business that impact any client's experience working with you: service offering, aesthetics, communication, systems, and attracting new clients. Do a self-audit on your travel business with this episode, and hear our experiences and advice as you consider these vital parts of your business and how to improve each of them. *For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previ...

Aug 26, 202558 min

Ep 238 [REPLAY] Client Experience Series: Branding Experience is Client Experience

Today premiers the first episode of our 4-part Client Experience Series! Join us as we explore all the ins and outs of creating a memorable, signature client experience. This week, we are talking about how your brand experience impacts the client experience more than you may realize. Learn to define your business purpose, gauge a client's expectations, and create memorable memories from the first moment the learn about you to the post-trip check-in. *For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of list...

Aug 19, 202549 min

Ep 237 [REPLAY] How to host client events as a marketing strategy

Join Brianna as she chats with Megan Vatnsdal, the passionate entrepreneur behind Onyx and Evergreen Travel, to discuss the ins and outs of attracting new clients and crafting value in our sometimes competitive industry. They explore marketing, but with a twist – how to use events as a way to showcase your value and serve as a catalyst for travel business growth. Plus, they also chat about mentorship, networking, and growing into your entrepreneurial mindset. *For the next few weeks, enjoy repla...

Aug 12, 202547 min

Ep 236 [REPLAY] Increase sales in your travel business without that "sales ick"

Love travel and planning it, but hate the sales part? In this episode, Brianna and guest Glenda from The Art of Selling Travel delve into the art of sales and client relations. Glenda shares her seasoned approach to pricing negotiations and reframing rejection, all while maintaining an authentic human connection. She provides invaluable insights on asking the right questions and building rapport that help build connections with clients. Through this candid discussion and personal stories, they u...

Aug 05, 20251 hr 1 min

Ep 235 [REPLAY] How to find the best host agency fit for your travel business

Host agencies...how do you find the right fit for you? Whitney delves into this world with special guest Steph Lee, the founder of Host Agency Reviews. They discuss the importance of transparency in the travel industry, the challenges and opportunities that come with reviewing host agencies, and tips for travel advisors on switching host entities. Steph shares her personal journey from managing a host agency to creating a vital industry resource that helps travel professionals make informed deci...

Jul 29, 202555 min

Ep 234 [REPLAY] The secret of specialization and becoming a destination expert

Is there a certain part of the world that tugs at your heart strings? If you want to learn more about developing a travel planning niche, this is the episode for you! Brianna chats with Lori Gold, the travel savant behind Mexperts, who has built an impressive career curating personalized trips in the Mexican Caribbean AND as an expert advisor with resources to share. Lori shares her evolution from a generalist travel agent to a specialized advisor, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and how her...

Jul 22, 202545 min

Ep 233 [REPLAY] How to harness the power of lead magnets and email marketing to grow your business

In this episode of Masters in Travel, Whitney dives into the art of marketing with the experienced Kaytee Fisher, founder of Moxie & Fourth, and guru about all things email marketing for travel advisors. They dissect the strategic layers of marketing: the importance of understanding your target audience, the value of consistency, and tools and tricks for upping engagement. Plus, Kaytee shares her insights on the balance between using various marketing platforms and concentrating on a few tha...

Jul 15, 20251 hr 6 min

Ep 232 [REPLAY] How to plan a self-guided FAM trip

In this insightful episode, Brianna and special guest Kate Sullivan peel back the curtain on the concept of self-fam trips in the travel advisory world. From their personal experiences to the nuances of independent hotel site inspections and strategic relationship building, they offer a deep dive into the professional benefits and challenges of self-organizing familiarization trips. Plus, they discuss the intricacies of planning, executing, and capitalizing on these experiences to enhance their ...

Jul 08, 202558 min

Ep 231 [REPLAY] How to effectively ask for and leverage reviews

On today's episode, Whitney is joined by Jen Lee, VP of Industry Engagement and Support for Travel Planners International, to talk about a valuable asset for any travel business: client reviews. Get tips on how to ask for reviews and maximize their potential for attracting future clients. Whitney and Jen talk about how to prompt clients to leave detailed reviews, how to respond to positive and negative reviews, and how to creatively leverage views on your online presence. *For the next few weeks...

Jul 01, 202547 min

Ep 230 Shop Talk: Building a Business That Runs Without You [And an important Advisor Accelerator announcement]

In this candid Shop Talk episode, Brianna joins from Costa Rica, where she’s spending a month on a “sabbatical-ish”—a slower pace of work made possible by years of intentional business design. She and Whitney unpack what it really takes to step away from the day-to-day without compromising client experience. They discuss shifting from task-based delegation to outcome-based leadership, building a team culture rooted in ownership and empowerment, and redefining success beyond revenue. Plus, they r...

Jun 24, 20251 hr 2 min

Ep 229 What every travel advisor should know about representation partners

Representation companies are often misunderstood, but they’re one of the most valuable allies a travel advisor can have. In this episode, Whitney and Natalia Aldacour-La Borie of TL Portfolio demystify the role of representation companies, explain why advisors should rely on them more often, and share how these partnerships elevate client experiences and advisor businesses alike. Takeaways: How reps act as liaisons between advisors and suppliers and why that connection matters The visibility and...

Jun 17, 20251 hr 7 minEp. 229

Ep 228 How this travel business uses AI to save hours every week

In this episode, Whitney talks with Kaleigh Kirkpatrick and Julie Jamgochian from Shameless Tourist about how they’re reimagining travel advising through AI. Instead of just dabbling, they’ve fully embraced AI tools—from itinerary review bots to inbox systems and trained ChatGPT models that write like them. They discuss what’s working, what’s not quite there yet, and how curiosity fuels their innovation. Takeaways: Why dedicating team resources to AI research has paid off for their business How ...

Jun 10, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 228

Ep 227 Get support for your travel business: coaching vs. mentoring vs. training

This episode dives into the critical (but often misunderstood) differences between training, coaching, and mentoring in the travel industry. Jeremy Seulich and Whitney unpack why using the wrong term can lead to misaligned expectations, and how understanding each role can help travel advisors find the exact support they need to grow. From the relational roots of mentorship to the goal-driven power of coaching, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone building a career in travel.

Jun 03, 202545 min

Ep 226 Shop Talk: First class flights & surprise staffing changes

This month’s Shop Talk is a masterclass in both luxury travel and operational resilience. Brianna recaps her epic Emirates first-class experience—secured via a flurry of points and last-minute magic—while Whitney walks us through losing both her employees in five weeks, onboarding overseas hires, and simplifying systems without skipping a beat. If you’re navigating growth, hiring, or unexpected transition, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

May 27, 202557 min

Ep 225 On DMCs: A candid conversation with a DMC partner

In this conversation on DMCs, Whitney flips the script and chats with Hicham Mhammedi Alaoui, co-founder of Experience Morocco and The Travel Collection, to shine a light on the DMC side of working with travel advisors. They unpack how DMCs can create unique and memorable experiences without breaking the bank, how global expansion works behind the scenes, and what travel advisors should know to build successful partnerships. Hicham shares candid advice on communication, budgets, and the ever-evo...

May 20, 202550 minSeason 3Ep. 225

Ep 224 Tapping into your travel story

Brianna welcomes Sahara Rose Devore, founder of the Travel Coach Network, to discuss the power of using personal stories and deeper purpose in building a thriving travel business. They explore how travel professionals can differentiate themselves in a crowded marketplace by tapping into their personal “why,” connecting more meaningfully with clients, and combining coaching principles with traditional travel advising. Sahara shares about her transformative journey from solo traveler to industry i...

May 13, 202543 minSeason 3Ep. 224

Ep 223 How to share contextual feedback on hotels after returning home

How can you talk about hotels in a way that inspires and informs your clients? Joining Whitney this week is Madeline Steuber to shine a spotlight on the art of hotel and experience recommendations in the travel industry. Fresh from a FAM trip to Cape Town, they discuss the pitfalls of using superlatives (“the best hotel,” “must stay”) without context, emphasizing the importance of thoughtful, client-centered matching. And they dive into differentiating between luxury properties, understanding cl...

May 06, 202542 minSeason 3Ep. 223

Ep 222 Onboarding & offboarding in the client experience (Master Hour)

Pull back the curtain on a Master Hour inside the Advisor Accelerator, where Sarah Williams of Rebel Office Inc and the host of IT'S A VIBE Podcast joins us to talk about client experience! We dive into topics like client retention, the art of client onboarding/offboarding, and the power of nurturing long-term relationships with clients. Plus, we cover nuanced topics like how to create personalized touch-points that strike a balance between professional boundaries and friendly engagement + incen...

Apr 29, 20251 hr

Ep 221 Shop Talk: Masterminds & Tricky Destinations

Shop Talk is where we talk about what is going on in our travel businesses, getting honest about the day to day and big picture successes and struggles. Brianna shares her transformative experience at a mastermind retreat, discussing both the energizing connections and the personal growth challenges she faced. Whitney recaps her recent travels—from Italian food explorations to her first-hand experience planning travel in Japan—highlighting the lessons learned when stepping outside comfort zones,...

Apr 22, 202535 min

Ep 220 Beyond the Trip: Elevating the client experience in your travel business

Brianna dives deep into 'client experience', highlighting how creating a memorable and seamless experience for clients is not just about logistics and beautiful locations, but about how clients feel throughout their journey working with you. Tune in for insights and practical strategies to enhance client experience, drawing from Brianna's near decade of running a travel business. She breaks down the process into three key pillars: thoughtful communication, seamless logistics, and personal touche...

Apr 15, 202532 minSeason 3Ep. 220

Ep 219 Making the leap from corporate to full time travel advisor

Making the leap from a corporate job to full-time travel advisor is a courageous and scary decision, and here to share her story about making the leap is Julia Asselin of The Itinerary Girls. Tune in to hear about her personal journey of balancing her burgeoning travel business while working a full-time job and the eventual leap to becoming a full-time entrepreneur. The conversation provides valuable insights into branding, marketing strategies, and building a clientele in the oversaturated trav...

Apr 08, 202546 min

Ep 218 On stepping down from CEO

Joining us on Masters in Travel is Lindsey Epperly, founder and former CEO of Jet Set World Travel, to chat with Whitney about "the future"—the future of our businesses, our futures as entrepreneurs, and our legacies. They dive into the topics like transitioning roles, the fears and realities of one day stepping down or shifting roles, and the introspective work required to make significant business changes. Whether you are afraid to think about future changes or you embrace them with arms wide ...

Apr 01, 20251 hr 1 minSeason 3Ep. 218
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