Speaker A: Welcome to Manifest the big Stuff, an intentional manifesting tune up where you hear about cutting edge manifesting techniques uniquely crafted to take advantage of powerful new paradigms from quantum physics. Today's episode is a game changer. You've heard me talk about the importance of following form to manifest your desired version of reality. Following form means learning the best practices and success habits of someone, manifesting their reality as you desire, and then making their form your form. Well, if you've ever dreamed of great success in any area of your life, do I have a treat for you today. Today, one of the most successful people you could meet pops the hood and lets us see up close and personal all of his best practices and success habits. His name is Ben Breyer, the former CEO of Kindred Healthcare, a fortune 500 company that was recently purchased by Life Point Healthcare in December 2021. And of course, Ben is just as stellar a human being as he is a businessman. I wouldn't provide you with anything less than the total package. Today, Ben's going to generously lay out his blueprint for a wildly successful personal and professional life. Ben will also reveal how to bring your whole self to new goals after accomplishing your current ones. And you won't want to miss it when Ben lays out in specific detail his scorching hot top six tools for intentionally manifesting your reality as you truly desire.
Speaker B: I'm Greg Kuhn, the Law of Attraction.
Speaker A: Science guy, author of the life changing Y quantum Physicists book series, and your host. If you've ever wanted to follow the form of someone ultrasuccessful, today is your day. Listen, take notes, and apply yourself.
Speaker B: That's exactly what I did.
Speaker A: What are we waiting for? Let's get started.
Speaker B: I'm joined today by a guest with professional and personal accomplishments, the likes of which most only dream about ben Breyer. Ben is the former CEO of Kindred Healthcare. He stepped down when? Life Point Healthcare purchased Kindred in December of 2021. He now sits on the board of a global equity firm. Today, Ben and I are going to have a conversation about intentionally disrupting the status quo, the power and the importance of beliefs, and manifesting your reality more in line with your true desires. I couldn't think of a better person to have this conversation with than you. Ben, would you please say hello?
Speaker C: Hi, Greg. It's great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker B: My pleasure. I'm really excited about this conversation because Ben is an incredibly successful person in his professional and his personal life in a wide array of public facing endeavors, including writing his first book in 2021, intentional Disruption leadership Lessons in Healthcare, Business and beyond. Congratulations, Ben. You know I love the book. I've even talked about it on Manifest the Big Stuff because it specifically helped me manifest a trip of a lifetime with my family. Can I tell you about that real quick?
Speaker C: Yes. Please.
Speaker B: We were on the flight from London to Edinburgh, myself with my wife and four sons. And on that plane ride, I read your advice about how navigating the disruption of international travel as a family is a world class team building activity. That was just what I needed to hear. Just when I needed to hear it, I really appreciated it. What's your experience been as an author so far?
Speaker C: It's been good. There are some things that I expected that would be the same. There are some things that have been different. I think the most interesting aspect for a guy who has tried to be relatively transparent about my life with my teammates and my family is how vulnerable writing a book really makes you feel. I don't think until you go through the experience of actually being an author, coming up with your own creative content, in my case, based a lot on my experiences in my life. And then you put it out into the ethosphere, right into the world, and you sit around and wonder what people's reactions are going to be to it that anybody really understands on the outside what a high wire act it really is. It creates a sense of vulnerability that I have not often felt in my life. Now, the counter to that, Craig, is that I've had so many wonderful conversations, so much great input, so many people that seemingly the book has affected, I hope, in a positive way, that it's really been one of the great things in my life. How we measure success in terms of authorship and a book, whether it's sales or impact or whatever, is still a bit nebulous to me. But I would say from start to finish, while it is a very difficult process, I have enjoyed it and appreciated what it has meant to me and to others.
Speaker B: I can really appreciate you speaking to the vulnerability part. And truthfully, Ben, that doesn't surprise me at all. Primarily because one of the things that struck me about Intentional Disruption was your authenticity. And in my experience, the more authenticity I bring to the table, the greater the potential for connection with others. And certainly authenticity asks vulnerability of us, doesn't it?
Speaker C: It does. No question about it.
Speaker B: Well, I imagine that many listening will want to read Intentional Disruption. I definitely recommend it, especially to Intentional Manifesto. You'll get a lot of immediately usable ideas and perspectives from it. The best thing for folks to do is simply go to Ben Breyer.com. You're going to find the book and a lot more on Benbriar.com. Is that probably the best course of action?
Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. That or directly to Amazon, but either of those, they can find it. Thanks.
Speaker B: Great. There's still more I want to share about Ben. Before we get into our main conversation, I want you to know the kind of person that you're hearing from today. As the CEO of Kindred Healthcare, ben consistently delivered high wire triumphs with the whole world watching, before being acquired by Life Point Health in December 2021. Kindred Healthcare was a Louisville based Fortune 500 company with over $7.2 billion in annual revenue. At its height, Kindred did business in 48 states, had more than 2500 sites of service, and employed over 110,000 people. Now, Ben Breyer didn't inherit that company when he became CEO of Kindred in 2014. He built it during his seven years. He was the architect in the engine, leading and growing Kindred into a healthcare powerhouse. You must be very proud of your accomplishments and your time as CEO of Kindred, Ben.
Speaker C: Well, thank you, Greg. You're very kind for those words. I am enormously proud of my tenure at Kindred and proud of the things that we accomplished. But I want to say very clearly, and I mean this sincerely, that the revenues and the earnings and the growth and the deals that we did and the deals that we didn't do, there are so many different transactions and things that happen in the course of a company. But what I feel the most grateful about, and it's important for me to say this because I mean, it is the sincere connections to the people and to the teammates that I had at Kindred. These are people who show up to work every day with their proverbial lunch pail. They put their hands on patients and care for some of the most vulnerable in the country elderly, sick people that need loving, tender care. And it was my honor to lead them to be their partner for as many years as I did. I witnessed time and time again, thousands of acts of random kindness and a willingness to just put yourself out in a way that is really a blessing to the world. And I think the thing I miss the most, and the thing I'm proudest about is this just incredible culture. A group of people that were focused on team, mission, values, doing the right thing, and ultimately taking care of patients in a qualitative way. I'm very proud of that. I missed that, and it was a great run.
Speaker B: I know one important quality of a great leader is to bring out the best in people from what we've seen through the years during your time as CEO, I'd like to let our listeners know a bit about some of the challenges that you faced during your time at the helm at Kindred. For example, in 2015, you inherited an issue with the government that required a settlement, which I believe was ended up being $125,000,000, which you paid and still kept Kindred healthy and moving forward. And then again, in 2015, you led Kindred's acquisition of Genteeva Health Services. And my gosh, that deal was a $1.8 billion acquisition. Then in 2016, you wisely divested Kindred from the skilled nursing facility business by selling that arm of the company to a private equity firm. And ended up netting 215,000,000 in profit in the process. Now, in 2017, out of the blue, you had to guide Kindred and your patients and the residents of Texas and Florida in general through not one, but two devastating hurricanes when Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, and then 30 days later, Irma hit Florida. And I believe Texas and Florida are the states where Kindred served the most patients. Is that correct?
Speaker C: That's right.
Speaker B: And then again in 2018, you took Kindred private. You were able to leverage its acquisition by Humana and two private equity firms to secure payouts over the stock price for Kindred shareholders, and you paid off Kindred entire outstanding debt load of $3.2 billion. Ben did you ever take a day off?
Speaker C: Well, not really. And then, of course, the last transaction, which happened after I wrote the book, which was I ultimately sold the company right to LifePoint. So that took another couple of years of my life. No, I didn't rest much. There was a lot to do. This was a company that, as you mentioned, Greg, in terms of the settlement and all of the deal making that we wound up having to do was a company that was a great company in terms of the services we provided, the teammates, the culture we had, as I referenced earlier. But to be frank, had a very troubled balance sheet. And when you have a troubled balance sheet and you're a seven or $8 billion company and you're worried about how to make your payroll, that's a really hard place to be. So what you just read off in terms of all of those actions was a series of moves, a series of tactical decisions. Many that happened because of hard work, some that happened because of luck, some that happened because we were just resilient enough to stay in the fight. All of which resulted in a successful outcome for all of our teammates, our patients, our shareholders. And at the end of the day, as a CEO, that's all you can hope for. But yeah, it was a busy seven or eight years, that's for sure.
Speaker B: Ben before we get into the heart of our conversation, I'd like to briefly share with you my manifesting philosophy.
Speaker C: Great.
Speaker B: First, each human being is manifesting a unique version of reality by making it apparent to your eyes and your understanding your version of reality. It is so unique to you that it wouldn't exist without you. The second part is that there's no opt out of the first part. Manifesting reality is what every human does. If you didn't manifest your version of reality, there would be no reality for you. And then third, the good news, you get to decide how you manifest your reality. You can manifest your reality by default, maintaining the status quo, or you can manifest your reality more intentionally, disrupting the status quo. Disruption is a great choice when your reality is displeasing. I call that intentional manifesting now, Ben, you are not someone who quietly maintains the status quo. You don't keep your head down. You don't play small throughout your life. You have created audacious goals for yourself, and you've done what it takes to manifest them. Where does that come from? Is that innate? Have you always been like that?
Speaker C: Well, it's a hard question to answer. It's a good question. Greg? I think the answer is yes, it is innate to some degree. I think there's always this big debate about nature versus nurture in terms of what do you learn versus what's just inside of you. And I suspect at my core, a lot of that fight, a lot of that innate willingness to be in the arena I probably was born with. But I also think that a lot comes from the way my parents raised me, the experiences I had, the expectations that were put around me in terms of achievement and performance and the willingness to fight through tough things. So it's probably a combination of both an innate sense of things that I was born with along with experience, teaching you at the end of the day what really works when you're in the fight.
Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense. You're a father, so you're passing along those qualities, those traits, those characteristics, those beliefs. You want to transfer that to the next generation of Briars, speak to how you might cultivate that type of confidence and drive.
Speaker C: I think the first thing is that for kids, I think that kids are amazingly perceptive, even from a young age. They watch their parents, they watch their actions, they learn, they listen. And in some ways, in fact, many ways, they emulate. So the first thing that I've tried to do in terms of teaching my kids is trying to just be a good example. My wife as well. Not always easy as an adult, as a parent, as a busy person, as somebody going through and Lord knows we're not perfect, but my kids know that if their view of what I have done is quote unquote, success, right, however, you wanted to find that that there has only been and will only be one path that they can follow to achieve that kind of success themselves. And that is, quite simply, through hard work, through her will and through the ability to never quit. And so I have tried over the years, mostly because it was just the way I am and it was what was needed to try and achieve the things I wanted to achieve, to just be a good role model and a good example. And again, it certainly doesn't mean that I'm perfect. There are a couple of things that I think come with that setting an example in terms of some of the things that I've talked about with my kids in their life. Number one, I think a reasonably healthy fear of failure is healthy, actually. I think that wanting to be the best wanting to achieve. It doesn't mean that you're not going to fail. And it doesn't mean, quite frankly, as we all know, that some of your best lessons will be taught by the things that you're not successful at. It does mean, though, that having some fear of failure is a good self motivator. And they've seen that certainly in me. The second thing I think. Greg. I would say is that I have always tried to explain to my kids. Both with experiences that I've had and as you watch your kids grow up. And let's say they go from being in daycare to going to kindergarten and school for the first time. Or they go from middle school and high school. Or they try out for a new team. There's always life things that are happening as kids are growing up. What I've tried to explain to my kids is that I have seen time and time again that where I get the most personal growth in my life is when I do things that make me feel a little bit uncomfortable. Maybe it's going to do that public speaking event that you didn't really have to do, but somebody asked and you, yeah, I don't know if I want to do it, but you went and did it. Well, how did you feel after that? Or trying out for that team, or trying some new experience or learn how to ski or learning how to do this. Those are where we all find, I think, the most personal growth. And I've tried to explain to my kids that sometimes that's really uncomfortable, but it's that uncomfortable. That is where you really sort of learn the most. And I would say the last thing that they have witnessed from me and that I have tried to impart on them. And you read it in the book quite a bit. I think being on offense is important in life. I think that there's a tendency because it's easier to live within the status quo. And I have, as you said, so artfully earlier in our conversation, greg really never believed that the status quo was a place that's comfortable for me. And I've kind of tried to impart that on my kids, who, as we all know, generally like to live within the lines of that status quo as long as they can. So those are kind of the examples that I've tried to set.
Speaker B: Yeah, I can appreciate that you mentioned that fear of failure. One of my favorite ways to build that into my life or as a positive tool is to create as much accountability for myself as I can. Being transparent in that way, where I'm being honest with other people about what it is that I'm doing and accomplishing so that they now can see whether or not I did it or accomplished it. Interestingly enough to do that, I've also found requires me to be very honest with myself about those things. First and foremost and then go outward, but I love that type of accountability. Ben, we've spoken about the importance of beliefs before, and definitely beliefs are a central theme running throughout intentional disruption. I talk about beliefs all the time as well. Our beliefs are always being reflected back to us by our reality. I describe that as setting the stage for us. If we're, the actor going out to perform, our beliefs are setting the stage and hopefully creating the best possible environment for us to succeed. I definitely have seen in my life the importance of aligning my beliefs with my desires for my life, with my desires for reality, especially the more important that part of my life is. Will you talk a little bit about what role beliefs have played in your life?
Speaker C: Well, I think there's such a core part of our ability to navigate a complicated world. If you don't have some core foundational beliefs that you can come back to at times of difficulty, it becomes very hard to, as I said, navigate this challenging world. So I have a core set of beliefs that certainly I'm happy to talk more about, if that's of interest to you and your listeners, Greg. But certainly at its broadest sense, having a core set of beliefs that you are able to rely on is critically important. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker B: So would you characterize yourself as someone who is intentional about your beliefs?
Speaker C: Yes, I absolutely would categorize myself as that. I think that I often find my center of gravity, my true north, if you will, in my belief system, and that at times when I am navigating challenging situations, whether they be professional or personal, I do try and come back to that center, to that core group of beliefs, and really make sure that I'm being true to myself in that regard. That is absolutely true.
Speaker B: One of the things, Ben, that I heard you talk about throughout the book, although I don't remember if you said it explicitly, is how beliefs create the why. And I heard you saying that just now, that especially if the sea gets a little rough and you have to make it certainly the types of decisions that you have made throughout your career to be able to fall back and have those beliefs as a guiding principle and providing the why for those decisions, I think it makes. I heard a cognitive researcher interviewed on NPR a few months ago, and she said that the most difficult emotion for humans to process is regret. And then within the emotion of regret, the most difficult regret to process is the regret of what you didn't do.
Speaker C: I'm thinking about it as you talk about it out loud. I certainly struggle with processing regret. I think it's very easy to fall back on. Well, I don't have any regrets. I lived my life, I did what I could, but that's probably not true for anybody and certainly I would agree that processing that the biggest regret or the things that you didn't do is a big part of the way I live my life, which is, as you know, I don't let the grass grow under my feet very often. I like to get after it. And really, I'm not going to look back at the end of whatever my time is and say, I slept too much. That's for sure.
Speaker B: Well, you're always on the move. Your life is filled with journeys to accomplish. You have set a lot of goals. I'm sure that you currently have goals that you're working toward. You have accomplished a lot as well. What's the importance in that relationship between setting goals and accomplishing them and how your beliefs are empowering that lifestyle and also how your beliefs are being empowered by that lifestyle?
Speaker C: Well, look, everything is clearly connected, isn't it, Greg? The best example I can give to try and connect your question, because it's a big question you ask. There's a lot of different layers that we could unpack there. I think that in order to be successful, at least for me, having discipline and being focused not just on goals, beliefs, and ultimately actions, which are what all of these things are, that you really have to be organized. And you may be organized in your beliefs and your thoughts. You may be organized in your schedule, you may be organized in the various things that you're trying to do. But for me, that's what works best, is to be really process related. And so I've created a discipline in my life around creating goals that tie into my beliefs that ultimately help me lead to the things that I want to achieve, and that could be as connected as I would like to find a way to spend more time with my family. Okay, well, I believe you got to have a plan and a process. You need to have a schedule. You need to make it work. You can't just wish these things that they're going to happen overnight, or I want to be successful in business, or I want to go do this, or whatever it is. And so I do. I create a core set of goals. I think about them a lot. I rethink about them, I write them, I rewrite them. I tie them and connect them into my belief system and how I want to go about achieving those things. And at the end of the day, I think more often than not, that's what ultimately drives me to feel successful in the things that I do.
Speaker B: The journey itself has value.
Speaker C: Oh, there's no question. The journey itself has value. I think it is very hard when you're in the middle of that journey to recognize that sometimes if we're being totally honest with each other, I think you've said this to your kids, I've said this to mine and to my teammates, and many people around me. It is the experience that counts. It is the journey. It is being in the arena that matters. Sometimes it's easier to see that after the fact that it is while you're going through it. But experience tells us, and the more times you go on that journey, that the wondering if you're going to succeed, the dealing with the various stresses that come from not knowing what the outcome is going to be. That's really where the action is. So there's no doubt about it. The journey is everything. And look, I'm a good example of that. I worked at Kindred for many years to try and right size the company and try and do the right thing so that somebody ultimately would find value in it and that we could protect, as I said earlier, shareholders, customers, teammates, et cetera, patients. And when it all happened at the end and it was over and I walked out the door and it was a tremendous success, I sort of went, Well, I guess that feels good. I'm glad we got there. But it really was about the journey. It really was about the last ten years not getting to this day, no doubt.
Speaker B: In fact, the person that you become to accomplish a goal, to achieve something that's important to you, you get to be that person in every part of your life. Now you carry that. That's a new you. Yeah, I think that it is wonderful to hold a finished product and at the same time we were put here on this earth to take that journey and to not stop taking that journey.
Speaker C: I think that's right.
Speaker B: Then have you encountered anything that didn't come naturally? That's sort of a silly question. What are the things that you have had to work the hardest?
Speaker C: Listen, you sort of ask that question tongue in cheek, and maybe to some degree there are certainly natural gifts that I was blessed to be born with. But if you really ask me, like, I think everything has come hard, there's nothing in my life that's come easy. And it may look that way from the outside in. But whether it was trying to achieve on the athletic fields and gain the kind of reputation and experience and be viewed as the kind of player I wanted to be viewed at. That came with countless hundreds. Thousands of hours sweating outside in the South Florida sun until my hands bled. Taking batting practice. Working on my craft. Trying to find ways to be better and stronger. Ultimately leading to some modicum of success. But I wanted to play in the major leagues, so I didn't quite get that far. There's always a view from the outside in of what you've achieved and what you've done sort of coming easy. But certainly athletics never came easy to me. I had some natural gifts, but it was only because my express will to outwork everybody else that I was able to achieve even just up to the levels that I was able to achieve to. I never did particularly naturally well in school. School did not come easy to me. I was not a naturally gifted student. I probably had to study harder than most just to kind of get through the things that I needed to get through. But I knew that if I didn't get the level of grades and of achievement on test scores and things that I needed, that it was going to preclude me from getting to the next stop. But certainly it never came easy in my own career. Greg I've moved seven times, picked up my family and moved across the country seven different times. I've been blessed to be able to stay here in Louisville for a long time, but that was really more by luck than really by choice. I have been willing to take chances and risks and difficult experiences. Jobs where the outcome was certainly not success. Was certainly not guaranteed. And put myself in positions time and time again where if things went the right way and I will get the right way. And I use whatever combination of brains and luck and skill that I had. I might be able to come out of it successfully. But I can't really describe a single experience in my life that's come easy to me. Quite frankly. And yet, from the outside looking in, maybe it looks that way, but certainly that's not the way I view it.
Speaker B: Well, let me follow up, quite frankly, the number of people that anyone's going to talk to that have had the level of success you've had. It's a very small part of the population, knowing that what I imagine when Ben Breyer looks at the next challenge, whatever that is, the next goal, based on your track record, you would have complete confidence. Is that an accurate statement? Was there a time where you didn't have that much confidence, the track record has built it, or are you just as hungry and rolling your sleeves up to take on that process as you were the first time you took your first really big step?
Speaker C: I get a little emotional talking about it, actually. I'm 51 years old. I could be retired and slurping whatever is at the beach if I wanted to be. And yet I am today working in a new firm, at a new job, in a new career with as much uncertainty and as much anxiety and as much unknowing about the path of success as I did when I was 21. Now I have certain foundations that have been put in place. Certainly a loving wife and family here to support me, a safety net in which really no bad outcome is going to happen. But it's got to serve as an example either of my psychosis and neurosis or of my desire. Or maybe it's a little bit both. Greg that I'm trying something new just as I've. Described in our conversation getting outside my comfort zone, learning every day, not feeling overly confident about what I know and what I don't know, to try and achieve yet again some new modicum of success. Not just a sense of success and achievement, but at this stage of my life, it's all about learning new things and finding places to motivate me and ways to challenge the status quo and keeping my mind active and working. I've chosen to do that. So the broader answer to your question and what really got me worked up look, I'm a big believer in experience. I think that you become more competent at managing life as you have experienced and survived challenges that you might not otherwise have done. So certainly at 51, I have a perspective on the world that makes me a lot calmer than I was when I was 25 or whatever it was sort of getting going. But in terms of my own effort and my own fear of failure and my own ability to put myself outside my comfort zone, I am exactly the same person today as I was 30 years ago.
Speaker B: So you, in principle, are still doing the same thing in the sense of being fully present, being alive in the moment, not shirking away from what this earthly world is offering you this wonderful opportunity, and you still don't know exactly where that's headed.
Speaker C: That's 100% correct. That's right.
Speaker B: So essentially what you're saying is you put your pants on one leg at a time.
Speaker C: Yes, I put my pants on one leg at a time. That's absolutely true.
Speaker B: Okay. That's a relief to hear. I know we're starting to run up against your schedule here. I can't let this moment pass without asking you for some specific feedback, suggestions, advice for listeners of this show. Everybody listening today has desires, just as you do and just as I do. We all want to be more successful. We all want to improve our experiences, especially in the most important parts of our lives. We don't often get to hear somebody with your level of accomplishment pop the hood, lay it out for us. And I really appreciate that. Before you go, what advice would you have for someone trying to manifest their life differently, especially in an important area of their life?
Speaker C: Well, I'll give you a couple of key sort of thematic pieces of advice that I think are largely applicable, whether it's in your personal life or your professional life that I think about a lot. I've talked to my children about a lot. I've talked to my teammates and colleagues about it a lot, and it's not overly ethereal. I think people can put these into practice. So I give you I don't know, let's see if I can rattle off. There are three or four or five maybe, that I think are pretty good. Awesome. The first piece of advice I would give to people, I'd say take a deep breath. It's going to be okay. Just breathe through it. At moments of stress and trouble, difficulty, I remind myself a lot, just kind of breathe through it. It's going to be okay. So that's kind of number one. Number two, I think that people feel pressure to make decisions on important things faster than they need to. Now, I don't mean that you should procrastinate and I don't mean you should put things off forever. And I think that sometimes not deciding is making a decision in and of itself. But I always tell people, don't decide really important things until you absolutely have to. So be patient in your thought process around that. I think people should spend more time focusing on what's right, not just what's easy. Make sure that the path that you are thinking about is the right path, not just the easiest path, I think, to go down. If I didn't mention the word resiliency, Greg, I would not have done a good job of talking about what I think is potentially the most important word in 2022. That's resilient. I think that we are living in an incredibly complicated time. Social media world events, political disjointment, global pandemics, family issues, all the things that we're dealing with. You have got to be willing when you get knocked down, you've got to be willing to dust yourself off and get back up and keep pushing. You've got to be resilient to survive. I think in this day and age, maybe one or two more. We've talked a little bit about it, Greg. I think that keeping an eye on one's physical. But also one's mental health. I know it's kind of become a little cliche. But I just encourage everybody maintaining some level of fitness. Physical fitness. Activity. Being mindful of where you are mentally having an outlet. People to talk to. A place that you can go in a world where you're trying to be resilient. Where you're trying to do the right thing. Where you're trying to move forward. I just think that's really important. And the last one I'll say is one that I tell my kids and I tell myself all the time, and I'll sort of leave you with this last bit of advice, and that is that I hope that your listeners will remember this as much as anything about our talk that success and how you define success, it is not a straight line. It is a series of failures and successes that are sort of stacked along one's life path in one's career that ultimately lead you to that final goal. But there's a tendency, I think, out there to think, I got to just get from point A to point C, and I don't got to go through point B and go left or right. And life is not a straight line. And you just got to ride out the ups and the downs and keep staying focused on moving the ball forward and in the end, if you're focused on some of these other things, you'll get there.
Speaker B: Wise words. Ben, thank you so much for your time today. Is there any gift more precious than your time? I really enjoyed the conversation. I don't know how often you get the opportunity to speak to these types of things, but I really appreciate that you went here with us today. I firmly believe that you and I seize the opportunity to create something valuable today from our conversation.
Speaker C: Well, Greg, thanks. It's been great being with you, and I always appreciate your kind words and your thought process as well. You're one of the terrific thinkers out there as well, so it's been great being with you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker A: And now my quantum tip a brief, powerful takeaway that you can employ right now. It's easy to disqualify someone's advice, experience, or even their lifestyle. And sometimes you should. When you don't admire that person or wish to emulate their successes, just be careful about dismissing out of fear. Remember, almost any time your beliefs are challenged, you're going to experience some measure of a fight or flight response. So when you have reason to listen to someone but you're still dismissing them, take some deep breaths, recenter yourself, and remind yourself that you don't need to compare your insides to their outsides. Thank you very much for being part of this explosive episode. I'll be bringing more successful people to manifest the big stuff over time so they can also pop the hood and let you see their best practices and success habits, just like Ben did for us. If you found this episode valuable, please let me know by using my website contact form or even leaving me a voicemail by clicking the microphone in the little blue circle at the bottom right of my site, yquantumphysicists.com. And while there, make sure, please, that I can stay in touch with you by downloading my emotional reference chart for free and your free copy of my introductory and foundational book, How Reversing Seven Words Can Change Your Life. I'll only use your email to stay in contact with you about manifesting. Thank you again for your time today. I love that you're a part of this. Let's reconvene and do this again real soon.
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