My lead books has how the knowledge you want. Malik Books has how the knowledge you need. Books. Yeah, they have all the works that the whole wild world want to read. Books. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Bookshew bringing a world together with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik, your host of Malik's Bookshelf. Wow. I'm on my fiftieth episode A mile stone and I ha got fire on this episode because our interview and I thought long and hard or what should I do for
my fifty episode? And I invited a aging and longevity expert on to talk about health and wellness. Why because the health of the Black Nation's health is at risk of dying fashion any other culture or race. And I want to talk about this because I want us to live. No one dies quicker than the Black man. This is not a dark and gloomy episode. This is a positive, uplifting, motivational, inspirational episode for my fifth years, We must choose life in this episode is about solutions so that you can
change your life. It's about portant information. The solutions are easy and obtainable, they're low hanging fruit, and you can make change today. So that interview with Walter de Jon Malik. Stay tuned for I'm also gonna be talking about what Malik's mal bay. That's right, I'm gonna feel a few more questions, so stay tuned for that on this episode, and hey enjoy the fiftieth episode of Mali's bookshel Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Folks Show, bringing the world together with books,
culture and community. And I have a wonderful gift a guest that hate. It's more than just a guest. He's like a brother, maybe more than a brother, a spiritual brother. I've known him since the eighties, the early eight U s c. Both of us Trojan graduated roommates, pledged together, worked in the mortgage field together. This is a finance you know, he's a specialist in finance. Now he's been moved on into an area that I thought was something that the world needs to know more about, and that's
about how to live. The choices that we make affect our life. This brother has studied and I didn't even tell you his name. His name is Walter Malik de jaun See. And for those don't know, Malite means king. Walter Malite Dejon is a now a specialist and a student in the way of aging and longevity, and so
I had to bring him more. This is my fiftieth episode, and I wanted it to help meeting and purpose, and I thought none other than my beloved brother to come and speak to our audience about aging and longevity and making choices to live. Welcome my brother. Hey, absolutely honored to be here. What you're saying and uh, and you will hear me call him Sam from time to time, please excuse me. Me and him plays the same fraternity. And Uh. I lived with this man a long time.
Not only have we been friends and brothers for a long time and went to school. One of the people I'm most proud of in my life. Um, I don't know he's I've be told you before, but this man at one point was one of the fastest men in the world and he's ran in four Olympics, and I just grew up being so proud of him and all
his accomplishments. So it's an honor to be here. As a matter of fact, brother, I remember you starting selling books right on Manchester, Yes, sir, but selling books at a time where this wasn't popular, meaning they had they had they had. Not only did they had no other black bookstore options. It was impossible even to find these books if you even wanted them. So to see it morph and grow into this is just amazing and to be here today is awesome. So first off, what I specially,
I'm certified nutritionists I UM. I got certified through the Stanford School of Medicine. And I'm also a certified personal trainer through the North American Sports Medicine Association. And uh would I what would sparked me to do this? Brother? And you you already know we've we've when we became Muslim right in the late eighties or early nineties, should've been for a long time. What I noticed was me changing religions in terms of theology really didn't upset people.
Meaning when I came home and I said, hey, you know, I'm no longer a Christian, I'm a Muslim. I'm gonna change and a live God. You know, my family and friends really didn't have a huge problem. Oh Muslims, Okay, they're they're not Christians. They don't like dude, They're still in as bad they believe in the Bible. They got another book, the rhynd but it seems to promote positive things, right, and they believe in God and they want to be
good people. Okay, all right, fine, But when I told them I had to change my diet, I couldn't eat breakfast anymore. You're not eating breakfast, that's you. You're not gonna get all yours, You're not gonna pig you, You're not gonna eat bacon. It was the dietary changes that I made, especially this one. I'm only gonna eat one meal a day. Radical. I got so much flak for that. So over the years, just because I've had I had faith in Elijah Mohammed's teaching and his I really didn't
know why I was eating one mid of day. I just did it because he said so. So when people would ask me, you know why you're eating one meal a day because Elijah Mohamed said so, it's like what And I thought to myself, that doesn't sound very intelligent. We know a lot of things. Just let somebody say don't do it right. So so if I have faith in him, okay, that's one thing, but I should have the intelligence level to explain why I'm doing something and
where the benefit comes from. So I began my journey, and we had a we're living in a time where we information is ready available and technology allows us to know things we just didn't know in a lot of days. So we're an age of knowing. Yes, everything is being revealed, like the books say, right, even in the world of science, huge revelations. So I began to get into the world of nutrition, and that's that's where UM been studying this
kind of stuff for about twenty five years. Right. So now we're seeing, as you said, as technology and science evolves, the things that we learned in terms of dietary protocol, we're now getting the answers on why we do it. Okay, you talked about a Nobel prize being one because of particular aging protocol. That protocol is called atop of gy. Now, I want to make sure we hit four kind of contextual um processes. I want to make sure we talk
about a state of four states of the body. One state is called hormesis, one state is called hormesis, and one state is called autopagy. Okay, I want to make sure we cover those. Now, let's talk in terms terms of fasting. I want that's the fourth one. I want to talk about fasting fast. It should be familiar to everyone, right because Jesus fasted, right, all the old patriarchs fasted. Fasting has been a part of say, human behavior for
thousands of years. Not a part of Western culture really right, right? Not part of American culture. But fasting has been known, but we didn't understand the benefits. That's where to Fay comes in. There was a psychologist, and what a psychologist is. A psychologist is a cellular biologist. A psychologist studies the functions of seals. Meaning all your sell is your skin, sell heart, cell muscles, What do they do? What are
they functions? Right? Just he's like a mechanic. Mechanic knows everything about your car with the with the transmission, does with the sparks plugs, dude with the steering? When he knows everything about Well, if we know everything about how its self functions, then we can see how we can keep the cell healthy. If we can keep up self healthy, then really how long can we live? Okay? So, um, I'm sure most people don't make your in biology and
probably don't even really care. So why is this important? Let's talk about why this is important. So this cellular biologists, right, your scenari assuming he began to study cells because that's his job. Boring to us, but very important because guess what you're all made of. Cells. Cells divide informed tissue. Tissue divides forms organs. Organs form you. So we look at cell is and how they work. As we get older,
cells become dysfunctional. Let's take, for example, my brother's beautiful hair, and he still have his, but I remember when he was a young man, all of this was black black. Why is it now some is black and some is great. Well, it's a cellular process that happens that produces die. So when your hair grows and you're young and the cells are healthy, it produces the dye to keep it black. As we get older, the cells become dysfunctional and it can't produce the dye, and our hair gets great. Same
things with our eye cells. I didn't wear glasses when we're young, right, Okay, so right, So the cellular functions start to deteriorate, and that's what they call aging. Yes, when yourselfs start to not function the way that they used to. And you're saying that because you're studying longer, having the aging, that we can turn the clock back or we don't have to age at all. Here it is as much as these scientists know, they really don't know much about a g we're just starting to learn.
We don't know what makes you age, really what what's the underlying causes. But what we do know that there is really no reason for you to age. H Why because cells are constantly reproducing themselves. You know how you don't need to know you you don't, you're not really don't need to age. When you're say forty years old and you have a baby, does the baby come out forty years old? You know, it comes out of infant,
It comes out brand new. Why because you have the ability to make brand new cells in you, Why can't you make brand new white cells, brand new brand new hair cells, brand new skin cells so you don't have saggings and wrinkles. Well, that's where a topic comes in. Your body has a system to where if it's put in a certain state, it will clean up and recycle all the dead We call him sinescent sinescent cells dysfunctional cells and use those old parts to make new cells.
Just like we talked about the mechanic you come in with your broken car, he can go to the junkyard, go to a car, pick out good parts in that car, and that this car, and come back and bring him to your car and make your car functional again. Where your cells do the same thing as your selves began to become more dysfunctional, mainly because of lifestyle choices. And we'll talk about that. Lifestyle choices make yourselves dysfunctional, not age, not years going by. You got to break that down
because I'm sure people confused about that. Oh yeah, your body goes through a function where it automatically cleans up all the old dysfunctional cells, uses those parts to make new cells, and then your body can function just like it did twenty years ago, thirty years ago. So you're saying the lifestyle choices that were making as calls the A and well, not seventy five of your aging is
lifestyle fifteen about fifteent genetic. It is a genetic aspect of this, but as you can see, the genetic aspect is much smaller than the lifestyle choices. Okay, so when you when you make certain lifestyle choices, like when you make the lifestyle choice not too fast, when you make the lifestyle choice say to overeat, when you make the lifestyle choice to drink alcohol. All these lifestyle choices, we damage ourselves as we make these lifestyle choices. Over the years,
ourselves become so damaged that they become irreparable. And once you reach that stage, that's when you start to go into a state of you know, when you're old, you become feeble, and when you get older, you die. So so the lifestyle choices that we primarily take, the foods that we eat, the things that we drink, and the way we even you know, act and think, bring about aging. And that's important point that you made um the way that we think, so I read and how they eat
to live. The Anlaji Mohammed said that there's people that write to me and say, I do everything you said in your book, and it didn't help me become any more healthy. And then he talked to him about the way they think, and he said, you can eat perfectly, m but if you don't think good thoughts, if you don't have a purpose in life, if you don't surround yourself in a circle of people that love you, that help you and support you and mentally uplift you, you'll die.
Just as if you ate poorly. Every day and that could be confirmed because you know, it's a lot of young people that'll fit this dropping dead. Remember when they used to say, you'll tell them I stopped eating pork, and they'll say, Grandma ate pork and smoke and she lived or ninety. Grandma might have had a good mental social lifestyle that helps support her and she couldn't even lived longer if she ate. Right, So you never know what components you know cause you the age point. That's
a good point. Now this component about fasting we need to discuss because there are different types of the intermediate fast, the you know, the water fast, sir um, the eliminade fast. They got all all type um. But you said something to me one day when when when you're ill, eliminate meals, limonade, eating some food. Any time you miss a meal, you live longer. And this is how it works, simple when you understand it. Okay, So how do you make your
muscles stronger? Different weights, exhorting it, you know, working out, stressing it, stressing it. There you go, and if you work your muscle out and stress it, what happens at first? Um? You term a lord, you damage damage them. It's a little sore, right, but over time they become stronger, stronger. This is how all the cells operating your body, when they become stressed, they hunker down, going defense mode and become stronger. Why, in order to protect themselves in prolonged life.
Your body is designed to live as long as it possibly can. That's what it's designed to do. We are taught at the matriarchsal We see in the Bible, Methusilah and um uh Noah, all these people who they send the Bible lift seven eight nine d years. Those are real years. So your body is built to prolonged life. Right, So when yourselves are stressed, they go in defense mode and become stronger. So we just now have to figure out how to stress our body. The number one stressor
to your body cells is denying them food. When you deny your body food, yourselves go in to protection mode and they start using all their resources in order to strengthen themselves because they saying, hey, we're not getting the nutrition we need and without this nutrition, we can't survive. So we gotta get stronger because we got to survive under these harsh conditions. Once yourselves start doing that, then they become stronger. I want you to understand there's a
difference between fasting and starvation. A starvation is when you deprive your body of the minerals and nutrients and food that it needs. We're not talking about starvation. We're talking about It's like we go to the gym right now and I put three hundred pounds on the bar. Right, that's gonna overstress your muscles. We want to mildly stress.
So the National Institution of Health did a study over twenty year period with people and have determined now you don't have to guess anymore water fast, blah blah blah fast. Listen if you if you do not in take food for a twenty four hour period, according to the National Institute of Health Studies scientific no bro science scientifically, that's when you initiate the initial stages of topic twenty four hours. If you can go twenty four hours without eating, without
eating one mild just like you said. So if you if you go one million day, don't eat, but drink water. When you go into a topics, you can drink water. Right, So the twenty four hour period seems to be the sweet spot, the sweet spot, right, So me as and I call myself. Water don't affect Water doesn't affect it. So you don't break your fast with water, water and lemon coffee tea. You don't break your fast when you
don't push sugar. You've broken your fast. Okay. If you put a substrate meaning if you if you consume um, a fat, a carbohydrate, a sugar, fiber during your fast, you've broken your fast. Okay, you can drink water, tea, coffee, just you can't eat any substrates. You can't eat any fiber, You can't eat any food, You can't eat any carbohydrates, you can't eat any sugars during your fast. So what I as an aging coach, what I try to tell my um, the people I work with. It's tough for
some people to go straight into a fret. You used to eating three meals a day, snacks, you know, So I try to give them windows. So initially I'll say, well, let's see, you know, if we can eat from twelve to eight and don't eat anywhere after eight. So eat, say, say you eat lunch, then you can eat during the day till eight p m. After a PM, don't eat anymore until twelve pm. We'll start there my window is two hours. So say, once I take food, I have two hours to eat till then I can't eat till
twenty four hours. And what's your hours? The best hours eat you the best words. If you're living on like a regular clock, say you don't work at night, you work during the day, and you sleep at night. It's usually after you finish your day. So anywhere between four and seven you take that, you take that block of time. So I usually don't recommend going over four hours. So say you eat at four, try to get everything you eat in in a couple of hours, three or four
hours max. Okay, okay, and then don't eat anymore so you're not at the state of the top of tree, top of And let me tell you what the top of g you mean. Otto means self Fudgi means eating, self eating meaning the cells are going in there and eating themselves. Mean they're eating the other bad cells. They need help. You're not giving them any any cells, You're not giving any food to eat. Right, So what they're doing is they're saying, it's a bunch of dead cells
in here that are dysfunctional. Let's go in there. Just like the mechanic he can't go buy a new car. He's got to go to the dead cars and pick out parts that are still working and use them to repair and make the functional cells better. So the cells go in and eat themselves. Mean, they go and eat the dysfunctional bad cells and take the parts they can use, discard the parts that they can't use, and make your body whole healthy. And how long should you be in
that state of a topic? The state of it? Because you said you don't get to it into twenty four hours right now, So then you initially you start eating, So how long are you in that state? So you're in that state and this is where science is still brother trying to get the details worked out right, So say you don't eat for four hours. The top of starts. That's why I told you anytime you skip meal, you're gonna live longer. So you go four hours, a tough
agy starts. Then you eat that four hour up. You didn't get much, okay, So I'm saying to get the most help right soon god minute you finished. It starts after you fail. It starts after you finish. You finish your digestion, which might take a couple of hours. Then you're gonna go into this state. The state becomes more and more pronounced the longer you don't eat. That's why we're taught that methusela ate once every seven days. I think how strong the topic is seven after seven days? Yeah,
here we go with science. The anwarized Mammy has been totally redeemed. Okay, there's a state of autopagy that's a SuperMac state. It's called chaperone mediated autop for gy. I'm sorry, I have to tech. Chaper A mediated. The top of gy is when the point to where a top of gy is the strongest. I mean, these cells are absolutely superman going through your body, destroying and recycling all the dead cells, bringing you to a state of cellular renewal. So you must get there after how many days of
fasting sev three days? Three days? Chaperon mediated the top of takes three days. What did the messenger tell us? He said heat won the other day and then one time a month. What go on? The three day fast and three day fast? How do you know that cellular I mean, I'm shop was not discovered until a few years ago. A top of gy period wasn't discovered until sixteen. The Nobel Peace Prize was given for the findings on the top of You. How Do You Eat to Live?
Was written in nineteen sixty seven, but he had been promoting that lifestyle since the thirties. And he said that God told told me one mill a day and fast once a month three days. Yes, And then the book he gets even more specific. He says that you should start out even one mill of day. He said, by the time you're forty, you should have beyond two mills. That as you get older, eat less. Why because yourselves are fighting all the toxins that that you've been to.
And in forty eat um one mill every two days. They said, try to work yourself to get to one meal every other day. Then try to work yourself to get to one million. Just do the best you can. But I'm telling you a great discipline in the world. It is a bundle of bood in a society and a culture that revolves around gluttony. Right, I mean Black Americans are are o and and and you took a lot of flaking, a lot of heat because you said
that eliminating breakfast. You know, that's like break fast, waking up eating when the body doesn't need to eat when it wakes up. It needs to work. It's actually the worst meal of the day. And it was invented by a certain group of people who wanted to sell more food called breakfast foods and cereals. Right, they wanted to sell. So what are we doing to our youth, our kids, our children when we believing that we gotta put carbro hydraason sugar and glog coleos in front of them as
soon as they wake up. What you're doing to them is actually sending them to the grave early. People always ask me, when does the aging process start. The aging process actually starts when you're born. When you're born, you're at a certain cellular condition. That cellular condition will continue to your about thirty, meaning say you're at a consellular condition that it will drop very menial until your thirty. Right, So say this is the and you live in thirty years,
you might be here. You can barely tell, right, small increment once you get the thirty, it's gonna drop. Once you get the forty, it's gonna drop once you get to sixty. Wanna see what happens once you get to sixty five? That's what happens. Why Because you've been eating all these sugary food since you were a baby. It takes twenty thirty years to feel the effects of what you're feeding these children. It doesn't happen right away. The candy bar, it takes time. All the sugar takes time,
All the carbohydrates take time. The lack of fiber take time. The soldiers and over the years until they totally diminish. So you get at sixty, you get this absolutely huge and gigantic drop off in cellular functionality. And what do you start doing? Then you start needing the cane. Oh, I can't walk up those stairs no more. I can't, says I talked to people about working out, because diet and exercise go together. I talk to them about working out, and they go, I walk. I get up and walk
in the morning with my wife and my friends. And I look at him like this. Remember when we're at USC you used to walk from where we lived in the copa house mile and a half from school. You would walk all the way there just to go to track practice. Just now you want to tell me you walked around the block and that was your workout. I guess it's the walking. What it's the simplest exercile you can do, but it's not for aging because it right,
it does not work the heart enough. Let me just give you a benchmark to tell if you're working out, if you're out of breath. It's called hypoxic training. And I'm giving you the scientific terms just so you'll know. Hypoxic just means out of oxygen. It's just carbon left right when you are breathing harder and your heart is pumping than you're working out, you're just walking down the street. You're not working out to help your longevity. You need
to be out of breath. Why it's stressing you. That's what that out of breathas oxygen. And I also the sign. That's what I'm saying this because I designed workouts strictly for longevity. Meaning in the body, there's this principle called the principle of specificity, meaning your body is designed to do whatever you train it to do, whatever you tell it to do, is designed. You have a wonderful daughter
who runs track, Yeah, let's go work out. And the more you worked out with her, what the fastest she got fastest, she got right strong as she got because her the body the principle of specificity says the body must obey her. But if she said on the couch, when she would have got faster. Not, because the theory of specificity says the body is, I gotta get good at sitting on the couch, So it's going to be designed to sit on the couch. And you see these
couch potato bodies walking all around. Right. So on the theory of specificity, we have workouts that are designed to keep you younger longer, so we can reverse the aging process if you catch it long enough. I mean, here's the I mean, not catch you long enough, but catch
it soon enough. Here's the thing. Anytime you start while you're while you're living, anytime you start on an aging protocol, you will live longer now, but two years off your life because you get that back because the clock started the minute you started ingesting improper foods, over eating and living a you know, a lifestyle this contrary to your purpose. And so therefore you know I have to do this correct the aging process, and the longevity is already stewed
at that point, it's already been affected. So when you look at my body as one whole system, right, I'm nine years younger. M m okay. So I'm around fifty fifty one years old on a biological and oh you learn clock right. So what I do is now I'm I'm more than optimized. So now I can work and keep turning my clock back. So my goal is to get to say in the next five years. That's that's my goal. So when I'm here, now look, look, look, look, look didn't the fountainer you is fasting? Fasting is the
fountain of you. Absolutely, Now let me give you and I'll give you the five I'll give you the five most important things. Right if if we Dr David Sinclair, who is the head of aging at at Harvard University, he was asked the question, you know, what's the one thing that we can do the low hanging fruit, the one easy thing we can do to live longer? Miss meals.
So we covered that right. Any time you miss miss you miss a meal for twenty four hours, you are going to start putting yourself in a very healthy state. Number two, diet, you need to have the proper diet. Number Three, you need to work out. You need to work out what kind of workouts they need to be high intensity interval training workouts. How would you define that in terms of someone who's don't have good mobility and is sixety, you know seventy, how are they gonna do it?
You know, high intensity training. So we have elderly protocols for training, we have cancer patient protocols, we have UM say if you have certain physical abnormalities, are injuries protocols for training. So you would need to see your personal trainer and they can do a physical assessment. So I do a physical and cardiovascular assessment of any UH person that I'm coaching prior to giving the workout, so we'll see where you're at and then we can say, okay,
this is what I can recommend. Because you're right, some people can't do everything. We're all a unique at different places. I think you stopped off at working out. What's together? So so so you have you have UM diet and fasting, you have working out. Now you have to expose your body to extreme heat. You have to expose your body the extreme cold. Any time you stress yourself, they're gonna get stronger. So I'm telling you what kind of stressors.
Stress them by fasting, stress them by working out, stress them by exposing So going to sagna for a little while heat. Remember you used to do it that the ice baths and when you're when you're when your ankle was andreed sticking in ice detox and the sign up there you go, Yes, exposure to extreme heat expose you to extreme cold. What about being in the sun getting that vitamin D outside? That ain't that don't qualify absolutely what it qualifies, but not as unless you're in extreme heat.
What you should do that every day for at least twenty minutes a day, especially if you're a melanated person, a darker skinned person, because um, you absorbed in control the rays of the sun better than lighter skinned people. And you see that with scientifically, I mean you know you can go read papers on it. You saw it in the black panther with the black suit. That absorbing energy you can absorb, right, so that means that it's
going to be tougher for you. It's really hardly. I don't think any foods we can get vitamin D from. Your body produces vitamin D from sunlight. Okay, you can't eat and get vitamin D. You have to get it from sunlight is the main source. But you're melanated and you absorb the sun. It doesn't. It metabolizes at a slower rate and you so when you're melanate, you need more time in the sun than someone who doesn't reflect the sun. They just all the rage, just the UV
rage just coming. Ah. So that's why he gets sun burned easy and darker skinned people don't. You have to stand the sun a little longer. So you should maybe thirty minutes if you're melanated, stand the sun every day to get your vitamin D. But what I'm talking about is go in that hot sauna where you can barely as much as you can stand, and then go in ice really cold environments for long as you can stand. I have I made my own ice um therapy at
my house, so chronics. A lot of people go into those ice chambers, you know, hyper hyperbolic right where where you denying yourself oxygen, you're denying yourself um. You know you be in too hot, You're being all these things, stress yourself. The one last thing you need healthy social environments. You need a purpose in life. Meaning if you're living a purposeful life and are at peace, then you're putting your body into a state where it could proform itself
because it's happy. If you surround yourself with love, kindness, understanding. Yes, then you're gonna live longer. Let me give you an exact Purpose is important. Purpose is important if you got to add value to your life. It has value to every day you wake up and give you meaning. Yes, that's important man. And like he told you, I was into finance. I like finance. It wasn't necessarily you know what I thought was my calling. But I do this out of purpose. The black man does something the best
on this planet. He's the best at it. Nobody's better at him than this one thing. Do you know what that is? Dying? The black man in America dies faster and better than anyone else. Well, that's my purpose to help my people. We got to turn that around, right, We gotta turn that around. And I know in these books they tell you about all this, you know is a dangerous specie out here written about that. We dined left and right, absolutely, but nobody now today is directly
forcing us to drink soda all the time. There's water in that store, in the liquor store. You have a choice between a bottle of water and a soda. You do have that choice. So we can't blame others for everything. We can take it upon ourselves to make lifestyle choices that are healthing, not making good choices. We're not It is a aspect to health care. Health Care is expensive. Right to get DNA work done sometimes can cost five Who has that all the time? Right, Yes, I get
it done once a year. I get my blood work done once every three years, just like me and you were talking earlier. Uh sins uh. A disease can come out the blue. So say you go get your physical today and you're okay, just like that running stream the new cells that comes. Some dysfunction can happen or you're not gonna know till you go back to the doctor a year later. Yes, the average black person that I coached, especially the man, has not been to see the doctor
in about ten years. Yeah, So we got to take better care of ourselves, and we have to know what lifestyle choices we need to make to live longer and younger. Well, I think you know that's profound that we do black men do. And we two black men sitting here, we do one thing better than any other people on the planet that's dying the whole planet. And uh, and we need to you know, We thank god that people trying to address that and attract that, you know, because that's unfortunately,
you know, we've been dying for too long. It's been going on too long since and and this is the this is the thing we gotta think of. This is why I had to make this my fifth episode, because the black Man is in a dangerous species and we need to turn this around. And the only way to do it we gotta have information, and we gotta be ready to change. And change is difficult for many of us. You know, we we we you know, we're stiff necked, hard here and rebellious. We get shutting our ways, and
it's costing us our lives. It's costing us literally costing us our lives. And this is a sad art. You have this aspect of life called mortality. That means when you die, say you die at eighty or you die at seventy. My grandfather lived to sixty five. But you have a that's life span. You have another aspect of life called morbidity. That's called health span. How many of your years are healthy years? Meaning when you're not visiting
the doctor constant. Yeah, you're you're you're living, but you're going to dialysis, you're on a a high blood pressure medicine. You're only living because you're taking your diabetes medicine, your hypertension medicine. You're only living because you have that surgery and they put stints in your heart. That's why you're living. Your health span has already ended. The average black man health span ends eleven years before he dies, so he
lives almost a decade or more sick and disease. So not only are you going to the CRAVERO, we're losing right our health ten years before we even go to
the grave. And that's what we gotta solve because every every disease I name, whether it's hypertension, whether it's diabetes, whether it's high cholesterol, I mean, heart disease, Parkinson's, dementia, Alzheimer's, those are largely lifestyle related disease as you are in that state because of how you are living, in your diet, and you can change that living and dyet, Yes, sir,
all due to your choices. And that's why you know and and and when me and and and brother talk sometimes you know, I'm so staunch on one aspect and he kind of has to even me out sometimes because I know sayings. I know it's conspiracies out there to kill us, and I know it's racial inequalities, and sometimes playing the race card it's fair and blah blah blah. I get it, But I just want to just promote responsibility even among all that with freedom come responsibility, and
we haven't executed. We have a responsibility because we're free to make different choices, to make different choices, and we choose to choose death. And then you want to play the race card. It's just not gonna fly with me. You chose soda, you chose chips, you chose fatty foods.
Who you're gonna blame. Then you want to tell me how bad the medical industry is because you couldn't get your heart surgery because it was too expect We gotta take responsibility, We gotta take responsible choices, and we got to look in the mirror and say, you know, hey, I did this to myself. Well, Walter, this has been
very enlightening, refreshing. I know it's a mouthful for my audience, and we really appreciate you celebrating this faith happy to be here, you know, because this fiftith episode, this is like man enlightening informing them. We're trying to get life. Man, We're trying to turn this around, you know, and we can you know, we absolutely can't. We can win this fight. And that's why I wouldn't be in a fight that I knew we were gonna lose. We can win this
fight easy, easy. So I appreciate you, thank you, and I like for you to um if my audience can reach you. Uh is there a number or email or social media or something, because uh, you know, you are in the business of, you know, helping people rather make proper choices and live longer. Yes, sir, if you want to follow me and contact me, it's best to do it on Facebook. I have a Facebook group called Health
link Aging Institute. It's the Health link Aging Institute, and on that site, I post various um studies, I promote, I promote various information and it's strictly about aging and health. My job is to keep people living as long as humanly possible. So Health link Aging Institute on Facebook. Hello, thank you, thank you brother for having me. I told you I was coming by this week with the leak
blil Bank. The election is over and it's just a continuation of some of the things that happened during the election because of the big things said carry bass what one mayor of Los Angeles City? That's right. So as someone who lived in Balden Hills at one point in time, but still have a business located in Baldwin Hills, Crashaw Marty History Mars, y'all mall, the oldest mall I'm understanding in the country seventy four years long. Since Malik Books
is located in Los Angeles City? What would you like to see our new mayor priorities be once she takes office? Now, normally I would have April read the question. Boy, I'm going to have to read the question all right. This is from Nathan in South at l A. Malik. You sell books. I sell briskets and ribs out of my food truck. But I'm trying to open my own brick and mortar restaurant sometime in How did you choose the
location for your stories. It's a big decision and if I get it wrong, my restaurant will be doomed before we even open. Thanks for your advice. Well, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. First, of all the three rules for business, I don't care if the restaurant or any type of business. But the three rules is location, location, location. You gotta put your business in the right location. You gotta do your research, you
gotta demographics matters. All businesses are different, and you know, so you you gotta man examine what you're trying to sell versus what I'm trying to sell. You know, so my decision might not be the right decision for you, but I'll tell you this. People moving like schools of fish. So my suggestion is, Hey, if you ain't got a marketing budget, then you need to set up where the fish is already going. That's why Malik Books is located
in malls. I started this bookstore. I didn't have any marketing money, but I knew where the people was going. I set up right there, and they eat the fish, they eat the books and buy the books. There you go. That's how I made my decision. And um, I look for the right different graphics in the right situation, and you gotta do the same. Now. The next question is from Kennedy and Crisshaw. Okay, Malik, my mom loves to read, read, read.
I have trouble finding her books that she hasn't read what would be a great book to get her for Christmas that she has definitely not read before. Man, come on now, let me tell you this right now. The holiday book is Michelle Obama The Light We Carry Overcoming and Uncertain Times. That is a continuation of her last book a few years ago called Becoming, which was one of the biggest best sellers of all time. It was a holiday book, and this is a holiday book. Michelle's
Obama The Light We Carry Overcoming in Uncertain Times. That's the book. That's the book right there, that's the inspirational book. You know, her life is extraordinary, incredible, and you know, words don't express you know, the significance and her being married to Barack Obama. And let me say this, you know,
overcoming and uncertainime. We do live in uncertain times. And I think that she's offering some insight into what what you can do in this time of despair for a lot of people where you know, things in the world and the economy is you know, is growing and changing, and hardship is among us in terms of inflation and recession. So these are uncertain times in the direction of country
is trying to go in is divided anyway. You might have personal situations going on in your life, and you might need some advice on how to navigate in your marriage and your and and and your children and so forth. So this book The Light We Carry, because look, changes in you and the light is in you. So whatever you want to be or change to or evolving too, well, I guess what the light comes out of you. So hey, beat you. That's what we're coming with is all about.
And this is a continuation of her hit book becoming her new one, The Light We Carry, So pick up that book today. We gotta have meliek Books and meliek books dot Com. Thanks for listening to Melik's Bookshelf where topics on the shelf, our books, culture and community. Be sure to subscribe and leave me a review. Check out my Instagram at Milik Books. See you next time.