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MBW 967: Breathy, But Not In a Ditch - Tariffs, TikTok, iPhones, Visa Card

Apr 08, 20252 hr 9 minEp. 967
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Sales of Apple devices spike heavily as tariffs and potential price hikes drive customers to a shopping frenzy for Apple goods. Apple, alongside Google, is given permission to keep TikTok in its App Store until the US deal is finalized. Could the iPhone's auto-suggested contact be to blame for the Signal scandal? And even though Severance is a big hit, it isn't enough to give Apple TV+ a boost in subscribers.

  • Apple stock bloodbath continues after China applies retaliatory tariffs.
  • How Apple 'flew' 5 flights full of iPhones from India and China in 3 days to beat Trump tariffs.
  • Apple customers dash to stores to buy iPhones ahead of tariffs.
  • Tarriff-related iPhone price increases estimated to be lower than feared.
  • From Kuo: Apple can reduce impact of Trump's massive tariffs in five ways.
  • Secret court rules against Yvette Cooper over Apple encryption.
  • White House reportedly blames auto-suggested iPhone contact for Signal scandal.
  • EU to issue Apple's Digital Markets Act antitrust ruling within weeks.
  • Visa offers Apple roughly $100 million to take over credit card from Mastercard.
  • Apple launches new Mac and Vision Pro app for managing Immersive content.
  • Apple's canceled Federation Square store lives on in Apple Vision Pro.
  • New "Immersive VIP Yankee Stadium" immersive video.
  • Apple TV+ brings Lumon Industries to life.
  • Even Severance isn't enough to give Apple TV+ a big boost in subscribers.
  • Z-Wave, popular among smart home enthusiasts, becomes an open-source protocol with a new long-range technology as it seeks Matter support to avoid obsolescence.
  • CalDigit's new Thunderbolt 5 docks bring plenty of ports.

Picks of the Week:

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  • Jason's Picks: Insta360 2-in-1 Invisible Selfie Stick + Tripod & Neewer Mini Desk tripod.
  • Andy's Pick: Kindle Comic Converter
  • Mikah's Pick: puffies.

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Andy Ihnatko, and Jason Snell

Guest: Mikah Sargent

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Primary Navigation Podcasts Club Blog Subscribe Sponsors More… Tech Tariff Impacts on Apple

Apr 9th 2025 by John Ashley

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The recent implementation of tariffs on Chinese imports has sent shockwaves through the tech industry, with Apple finding itself in the crosshairs of an escalating trade conflict. The MacBreak Weekly team recently discussed how these tariffs, initially at 54% but threatening to rise to 104%, are affecting the tech giant and what consumers can expect in the coming months.

Stock Market Reaction and Financial Impact

The immediate impact on Apple has been severe. As the hosts noted, Apple lost approximately $640 billion in market capitalization within just three days of the tariff announcement. While the market has begun to stabilize with some viewing the drop as a buying opportunity, financial analysts remain cautious. Bank of America has set a rebound buy point at around $250 per share, suggesting continued volatility ahead.

Apple appears particularly vulnerable compared to other tech companies, largely because iPhones constitute approximately half of the company's revenue, and virtually all of its hardware is assembled outside the United States in countries now facing significant tariffs.

Apple's Scramble to Mitigate Impacts

According to the discussion, Apple has been taking immediate steps to minimize the tariff impact. The Wall Street Journal reported that Apple has been redirecting iPhone shipments between markets, sending devices originally destined for the US to other countries and replacing them with phones built in locations with lower tariffs, such as India or Brazil.

The Times of India reported that Apple flew five planes full of iPhones from India and China within three days, attempting to beat the tariff implementation deadline. This maneuver highlights Apple's just-in-time manufacturing model, which typically avoids maintaining large inventories but now presents a challenge as the company has limited stock already landed in the US.

Consumer Response and Retail Activity

An interesting side effect has been a surge in Apple retail activity. According to the podcast hosts, Apple retail employees have reported selling two to three times their daily targets as consumers rush to purchase devices before potential price increases. This "tariff buying cycle" mirrors the pandemic-driven tech buying surge and may temporarily boost Apple's quarterly results before longer-term challenges set in.

Pricing Strategy Options

The MacBreak Weekly team outlined several approaches Apple might take to address the tariff situation:

Absorb the costs temporarily: Apple's hardware margins are nearly 40%, potentially allowing them to weather short-term impacts by reducing profit margins.Strategic price increases on new products: Rather than raising prices on existing products, Apple could introduce new models at higher price points later this year.Tier adjustments: Similar to what Apple did with the iPhone 15 Pro Max, they might eliminate lower storage tiers, effectively raising the entry price without technically increasing the model's base price.Manufacturing diversification: Apple has been working to spread production across countries like India, Vietnam, Brazil, and Malaysia, though establishing new manufacturing capacity takes considerable time.

Jason Snell suggested Apple's preference would likely be avoiding immediate price increases on existing products, instead implementing them when new models launch. This approach is consistent with Apple's historical reluctance to reprice existing products except in cases of major currency fluctuations.

Broader Economic Implications

The hosts emphasized that this situation extends far beyond Apple, affecting small businesses and consumers across the economy. Andy Ihnatko shared an example of a YouTube creator whose supplies have suddenly increased 30-50% in price, forcing difficult business decisions. The discussion highlighted how these tariffs represent a significant shift away from decades of relatively free international trade.

For consumers, the most noticeable long-term impact may be extended upgrade cycles and downward pressure on premium models. As Jason Snell noted, customers may increasingly opt for the iPhone 16E over the Pro models, or MacBook Airs over MacBook Pros, as price sensitivity increases.

Political Dimensions

The podcast discussion also touched on the political aspects of this situation. Unlike previous instances where Apple CEO Tim Cook successfully navigated tariff threats through diplomacy and White House connections, these efforts appear less effective with the current administration. The Financial Times reportedly confirmed that Apple received no carve-outs despite their political efforts.

The hosts speculated about potential political motivations behind the tariffs and expressed concern about the uncertainties facing businesses trying to make long-term planning decisions in this environment.

Looking Ahead

As this situation continues to develop, the tech industry faces profound uncertainty. Chinese officials have stated an intention to "fight to the end" against US tariffs, suggesting this conflict could escalate further.

For Apple specifically, these tariffs may force reconsideration of future product roadmaps, potentially delaying or altering plans for devices like AR glasses or other innovations if price targets become unattainable.

 

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