It's time for MacGeekGab and I will bring us our quick tip of the week. I was driving in my car and trying to remember a word that I had forgotten and then I realized, wait, I can't do this right now because Siri can't help me with this, but ChatGPT could. I got home, I launched the ChatGPT app and I told it, hey, what's the word that means this and, you know, gave it like enough context and boom, there it was. It gave me the word that I forgot.
And thinking about using ChatGPT in these ways, I know we can use Google to like find the song that we couldn't remember by humming the melody, but ChatGPT can help you find words or ideas or things like that. More tips like this, plus your questions answered today on On MacGeekGab 1047 for Monday, July 22nd, 2024. Music. Greetings, folks, and indeed, welcome to MacGeekGab, the show where we take your tips and our tips, And we share them.
We take your cool stuff found and our cool stuff found and we share them. We take your questions and sometimes even our questions and we try to answer them all with the goal of each of us learning at least five new things every single time we get together.
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And here back in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen. And here back also in New Hampshire, it's Pilot Pete. Dave, related to that opening tip, getting chat GPT to give you words. I can't call it up right now. Maybe one of you two can tell me what is another word for thesaurus? Oh, man. Asking for a friend. Why did we laugh? Adam, after this past weekend, we should have known. The dad jokes are strong with this one. Yes.
Oh, come on. You guys are just gullible. And you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary. ChatGPT told me that. Yeah, it confirmed it for me. Yeah, that's right. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Should we see if burn has another use for chatGPT? Please. So burn SH, which I'm assuming means sell. So I'm going to call him burn shell, like born shell. Says, I had an annual meeting to generate a report for, and the meeting was on Zoom.
With the Zoom AI meeting summary in hand, I crafted a chat GPT prompt, which took the Zoom AI summary and reformatted it into the format used in the previous year's report. With a bit of cleanup, I was good to go. Obviously, this could be adapted from many directions to get data reformatted and edited.
So the prompt he used was using the Zoom AI generated meeting summary named 2024 meeting summary, create a new document for me to download that as closely as possible matches the format of the document named 2023 meeting summary. Pay close attention to getting all the details correct, but do not be too verbose as demonstrated in the included sample from the 2023 document. I love this because it reminds us that we can...
Upload files, attachments to chat GPT, uh, and, and have it incorporate those and create those in fact, uh, as well. So yeah, no, I think that's great. I love it. Yep. Yeah. I was actually playing with it a few weeks ago. I haven't gone back to it, uh, loading up, uploading a CSV file or stock prices. And it was gonna, I was trying to get support and resistance levels among other Now, you know, I don't know Byrne's situation or his company or anything like
that. I'm going to be the doom guy, right? To bring up, you know, if you're uploading corporate data or information. Make sure you're within whatever your company's corporate AI policies are. Those are things that a lot of companies are starting to formulate. Yes. You know, depending upon the content or what was discussed in that meeting, you might want to be careful about proprietary or information that shouldn't be shared.
Now that's not that's not the doom guy that's the smart guy and and the thing that we all need to remember in our excitement to let these engines be our ubiquitous assistants only share things with it that you want to know you you want it to know and potentially anyone to know i uh i recently installed the the chat gpt app on my mac and there's a couple of things i really love about it it's the the you know the the official chat gpt um mac app and uh one thing
that's great it's not really related to this but i love is here i can search my old queries which i never found a way to do on the web maybe i'm just obtuse and missing it but i know that i've had a conversation with chat gpt about a thing like our sponsorship reads i always use the same thread, for when having chat GPT creator sponsorship reads because it's all the same thing and why not have it kind of, I know it knows what it's done,
but if it's in the same thread, I feel like maybe it knows even better what it's done. Well, that makes sense. So it knows not to repeat itself. Because you told it not. If you've told it not to do something before, then it's not likely going to do it again in that same thread. Whereas if you started a new thread, it may revisit. And now you're reinventing the wheel. I'm reinventing the wheel. Yeah, maybe. But the other thing more related to this is the I'm trying to figure out where it is.
There's a, in the settings somewhere, there is the ChatGPT memory. And you can actually see and edit what it remembers about you. So, yeah, if you go into ChatGPT, this is the ChatGPT Mac app preferences. This might exist on the web. I've never seen it before, but I never looked. I had put the ChatGPT app on, and so I started digging.
Digging but if you go into personalization manage memory it will list all of the things that it has chosen to remember about you based on what you've told it and it's fascinating and you can if it got something wrong or if it captured something you would rather not have on the list of things that it captured there's a little trash can icon you can just delete these things like it if i'm going on mine it says um you know has a podcast called business
brain well that's true you know is considering podcast episode titles for their podcast uses fast mail as his primary email provider for both work and personal email and has been using it for over five years has a podcast called mac geek app and so on right these are the things that i use chat gpt for but you can you can modify those and you can even if you go into customized chat gpt and personalization you can tell it things like, what do you want it to know about you?
And also how would you like it to respond? And they give some instructions on, on that too. So, so I've got a question. Uh, I never really noticed the.
Menu at the top of chat gpt to play with it before so it's got preferences and control center all that where's the manage memory i'm not seeing the menu dave yep so if you go into settings and go into personalization manage memory is in there okay this is the command comma of the chat gpt app on mac on mac it's got a little menu bar icon you go to settings yeah and then i don't have a settings i have preferences then you're not running the you're either not running
the official chat gpt app or you're not running the latest version but my guess is you're running the mac gpt app oh you're darn right i am you're darn tootin yep okay this is the official chat gpt app and that's why i'm gonna go to the show notes and get the link for the official one. It's already there for you. I got you. So, right? Well, that's good. And I'll have the old one all backed up for me, assuming you're ready to move on to the next question. I'm moving on. Yeah, yeah. All right.
So the other day, I have a thumb drive. I actually should call it a pinky drive, but it's not quite as big as my pinky, and I plug that in because it's one terabyte, and that's one of my re-drives that I use with Time Machine. And it was getting ready to go to one of my Synology drives, and I'm like, I don't want it to do that right now. So I opened Time Machine Preferences, and I right-clicked, and I don't know, I didn't know to do this.
I just right-clicked to see what might be there on the drive that I wanted to back up to.
And lo and behold, the one thing that pops up is the ability to select back up to this disk, now so i was able to tell it go to this one don't go to that one oh so so yeah that worked out really well yeah i it was just a natural flow but i thought i'd tell people hey if you back up to more than one drive and time machine you can tell it which one you want it to do now and this is in system settings general time machine right uh you know i actually went to the
i have time machine up in the menu bar and i click on that and i click open time machine settings oh okay which brings you to the same place then your drive so it's insane it's a different way to get different way to get to the same place but sure yeah different paths same same destination yep and and yeah so that's it i have three drives listed and i just right click on the drive i want to use and select back up back up to this drive
to this disc disc now yeah huh yeah yeah cool cool thought i'd share that little tidbit with our... Do you have anything to add to that, Adam, or should we move on to Stephen? No, I mean, I think that one's pretty straightforward. Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. Yeah. Stephen has a comment from episode 1041 where we were talking about the fact that you could backup or sync or share even shortcuts, but automations in the shortcuts app were limited to that device.
And his solution for this is that he doesn't put his automation steps in automations. He creates a shortcut for all of his automation steps and then has the automation trigger on whatever it's going to trigger and then simply run the shortcut so that he does have the shortcut backed up if he needs to move it to another Mac or share it with somebody or whatever.
He doesn't just have to do it via screenshot. shots so you know it's like when you know when this event happens run this shortcut and then you're done that's it now that automations have some different commands and control flow than.
Shortcuts so your mileage may vary as to whether you can do this but it is a nice i like the idea yeah that's a great idea just you make a great point depending upon what your triggers are and things like that like i don't think you can do like an nfc trigger in a shortcut no but you can do an nfc trigger in an automation and then have that automation run the shortcut yeah oh fair point yeah that's what he's saying
to do but the the question is will there are some control flow things in automations that might not translate to shortcuts so you might might be limited by by what you can do so but yeah sounds like another different path same destination to me Yeah, but at least you get to back it up here, share it, or do whatever you want. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's a great little tip. I know. Yeah. I just like thinking about things in different ways.
Harvey has a follow-up to our discussion on Apple watch mirroring. That was something that I think I brought up on a previous episode that was sort of like the new iPhone mirroring you're going to be able to do in the next operating system, um, Mac OS, but, uh, Apple watch has an accessibility thing where you can bring up your Apple watch on your phone. And Harvey says in this week's episode, you asked for uses of Apple watch mirroring on your phone.
Here are two in winter. When I go for a walk outside and I am bundled up, it's hard to pull up my jacket sleeve over my watch to see activity monitor on the watch to monitor live how how far i've gotten how fast my pace is or my heart rate mirroring the apple watch on my iphone allows me to follow along as i walk without having to struggle through my jacket to see the watch i just hold the phone in my hand as i walk as i walk second use i just discovered is that
i can unlock the watch from my phone and on a bigger screen instead of trying to punch those little numbers on the watch this is useful when my phone for some reason doesn't unlock the watch automatically or sometimes when the watch locks itself even though i'm wearing it you can mirror the watch even when it's locked what that's like matt okay that's cool yeah i like it oh that's great i'm guessing harvey doesn't live in miami what with the jacket in the winter and all i know
what he's talking about now living in south dakota about like you got you got gloves on you got multiple layers everything it's buried under there and you're trying to peel it back with you know big heavy gloves yeah like it's a thing for sure you're not in san diego anymore toto exactly Exactly. Wow. All right. Well, Scott wrote in. He had another option for, I don't know if this is the same user, Harvey, or not, who had asked about pasting as plain text.
Scott says he uses the Paste app, which is available on Set app, and we'll put a link to Set app in the show notes, I bet.
I could be wrong. um and anyway uh use paste and we'll paste is mainly a clipboard history type program one feature that he finds handy is that it has a paste as plain text feature that works great and another uh bit of advice is that this is allows you to copy uh multiple things and then paste them individually using paste as plain text feature i like that very cool yeah yeah yeah smart Cool.
I was staying with my uncle over 4th of July weekend and he has, as many people do, a couple of like a refrigerator and a freezer in his basement. And he wanted to know he's an engineer. You know, he he worked at BBN for years, the company where email was invented. In fact, he knew Ray Tomlinson very well. So I share that as background. He's he's a super nerd about like things like we are.
And he, you know, his refrigerator, his refrigerators down there got old and he wanted to track a couple of things. One was the temperature variance between, you know, like at what point it kicks on and at what point it shuts off, you know, trying to get it colder. But also he wanted to know when they had a power outage, how cold it was in his freezer without losing any of the cold air that he had paid for in his freezer.
Well, because then, you know, do you need to like if you can leave your fridge or your freezer sealed during a power outage, potentially you don't have to throw away all the food that was in it if it didn't get above a certain temperature. So for a variety of reasons, he wanted to know the temp inside of his devices without opening them. And so he put Bluetooth battery powered Bluetooth sensors in his freezer.
And you can find these on, you know, Amazon, pick your favorite ones like, you know, it doesn't really matter that you can get them for like 10 bucks a piece. And then he uses his phone to to get near it and, you know, find out what the temp is. He does caution that you are putting these effectively inside a Faraday cage or something quite similar to it. So you kind of need to be close to the device, you know, to your refrigerator, you know, the appliance to to see what it's inside temperatures.
The other thing is just make sure that the range on whatever you're buying matches the appliance into which you are putting it. So if these things say, oh, yeah, we go down to, you know, whatever, 35 degrees F. Well, maybe that's not enough for a freezer, potentially even a refrigerator. I bet the battery life is amazing on those things. He says it is. Yes. Turns out. Yeah. You know, cold. All right, folks. Imagine your company's security is like the quad of a college campus, right?
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He wrote in the other night, and now I've hidden it from myself. There it is. He wrote in, There used to be a time when I stuck a CD in an Apple Music, nay iTunes, not only recognized the CD titles, but also pulled in the artwork. Importing the CD was just one click and done. That's it.
Nowadays it pulls up song titles but no artwork when did this change and how do i correct it and so i i wrote a beautifully crafted response and said you know here's how you get your artwork into itunes and he basically wrote back and said yeah i know that i'm asking when did it change and how do i make it so i can click on it and have it import all the metadata to include the artwork work so uh the fact is uh i my first search
brought up tune up so if you you if you find that it's no longer supported music brain music brains with a z picard p-i-c-a-r-d.
Claims to work with apple music but uh the comments that i read in the youtube video i watched on it say yeah it's it's not great bottom line is it looks like the functionality has been deprecated by Apple because important CDs is no longer the primary means of obtaining digital music so Larry from Apple to you tough luck pal it's just it looks like they've taken that functionality out never to return i don't know thoughts dave yeah it's been
i'm trying to think i i i know it will pull the song names but artwork yeah i yeah i had to go google it and add it pull in the image and manually put it in yeah that music brains apparently takes the artist and just slaps it all over anywhere from any artist it finds and a big, a big problem with, um, what Apple does too, even if it is pulling artwork these days, I think part of the problem is Apple music in the data and Apple music where it would pull data from.
Uh, cuz I mean, if anybody's experienced this, if you have songs in your library. You know, that you put in back in the day from Apple music, oftentimes the matched versions that that they find are like greatest hits albums. Like you get weird.
Information and data in my opinion a lot of times so like i think even if you did like if i went and ripped a brand new cd right now even if that was working i would expect it to have odd potentially odd results just because of what apple is like looking through these days well that's that's if you're uploading to either i cloud music library or using itunes match right but it It used to be, and I think what Larry's talking about is the local thing that didn't check with an Apple database,
but checked with someone else's database. Right. And it's not doing that. So you're right. I think if you pulled those songs in and had it auto-name them, which clearly it will mostly do if they're in whatever database Apple Music is looking at, and you are an iCloud Music customer, it might match them with the client.
Cloud i don't i mean it should match them with the with with the cloud whether it's the to your point whether it's the right version that it's matching with well right you kind of want to check but at that point it might wind up adding some artwork but maybe not maybe not to your local copy it might to the one that you like download to your phone because that's going through the filters of itunes match or iCloud music library i don't know yeah yeah there used to be so many
great apps for this back in the day i remember equinox had one called cover scout that i absolutely loved yes and that forgot that was amazing yeah and it searched multiple databases but i don't know i think you're right pete i think that era may have left us to a certain degree yeah i forget the name of the database that it used to use but it it i think it was i remember it wasn't the grace note database was it that i think it was okay i think it was yeah because uh i remember I remember
reading it the other night when I was doing the research on this and, and, uh. Because Grace Note is what Shazam is based on. I know that, you know, now I don't know anymore. I still need to catch up on sleep after Mac's talk. Dave, are you saying I beat you up? You didn't beat me up. I beat myself up. Early to rise and late to bed is not the right formula for this particular podcaster. Although it seems to be how I live my life. So I don't know.
Yeah, I think I'm wondering if you could cobble something together with like shortcuts or something like that, or some sort of automation to like search one of these existing databases like Discogs or Songlyrics. I hadn't thought of that. I'm surprised there isn't a third party app to do this. But but again, I think perhaps that also speaks to the the sort of reality that people aren't ripping CDs anymore.
You're downloading your music in a digital form that already has all this metadata and more. Right. So, Dave, watch Adam's head explode. I'm just going to have Chet GPT write an app that'll do this for me. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, sort of back to our conversation that we had it in the last episode at MaxDog. That's a really interesting thought. We said, you know, it's not like commercial apps are being developed with this. And of course, I think almost as a chorus, all three of us said yet.
Right. You know, it'll happen. but what about something like this where it's like i wish a commercial app existed for it there is no market for it or not a big one yeah i don't know how to write that app myself would chat gpt cobble together you know whatever i mean it could be an app and see it could be an apple yeah whatever that like that starts to become a really interesting use case for this yeah. Someone do that and send it to us. No, I'm going to do that in my free time.
I'm going to have ChatGPT write me an app for my iPhone that does something. And obviously I'm going to have to use Xcode as the conduit to get it there. But yeah. Huh. This is interesting now. Okay. That will be interesting. Let us know how it goes. Yeah. I'll let you know. As soon as I get the time to do it. Yeah. There you go. All right. Shall we move on? Yeah. So Mark has a question about syncing files. He says.
To say that it is more than it is more than usual more than any the usual amount of data i have they must be, used to users they must be used to everyday users excuse me with small files got it yeah suggestions for something simple willing to pay for i think iCloud won't do it because it will not work on an external drive correct love the podcast keep doing it forever well we will attempt the forever part but uh i can't make any promises because linear time is
you know arguably doesn't exist uh that said okay so mega.nz if you don't know just for to level set everybody is essentially a a file storage and syncing service kind of like dropbox We'll say that for now. Right. And syncing three terabytes with Dropbox would be effective for this solution. But, you know, not not cost effective. It would be functionally effective and Dropbox would love you forever because you'd be paying many people's salaries. Right. But yeah.
But, you know, not the right solution. You don't need it stored in the cloud. Potentially, your work doesn't even like you might even currently be, you know, violating some things if you're storing data that you want to have that is work data in the cloud. Like, you just want these two things to sync with each other. And that's that. So the thing that pops to my mind is something called Resilio Sync.
I don't know where they got that name, but I know why they got that name, because it used to be called BitTorrent Sync. And BitTorrent, the name has a little bit of a stink on it because BitTorrent is used for, you know, it's a peer-to-peer technology that is used sometimes, not always, for like nefarious purposes of sharing pirated files and things like that. But it's a really efficient protocol and a really robust protocol that doesn't rely on a server anywhere.
It uses all the peers in a group. And when you're sharing with, you know, like pirated files, it might be thousands of people you don't know. But it can be used for a closed group. I mean, every group of BitTorrent is closed if no one knows the way to get into it. And, of course, yours would be closed to your devices. devices, but ResilioSync, you install on your Mac at home, on your Mac or Windows or Linux machine or your disk station or whatever you want at work and or elsewhere.
You can have, you know, I think you can have up to on the personal version, which I think is free. You can have up to like 10 devices all participating in your cloud. This may have changed over the years. It's been a while.
I used to use it all the time. and it just and it's because it's based on the very robust bit torrent protocol um it's pretty good at traversing firewalls even firewalls that are built to block the bit torrent protocol so again so so long as you're not violating work policy you might just install this pointed at these two folders and say sync them up and boom you're done and that way you're only using the bandwidth between you and work.
You're not reliant on whatever, you know, third party you have involved that might be slowing things down. It could just be that your bandwidth between home and work is slow and that, you know, that's something that you'd have to fix, but, but at least it's all on you. So ResilioSync is, is the name of it. And it can really be the answer for something like this. Oh, the price is right. Yep. You know, I haven't used it in a long time either, Dave.
I'm wondering if that may be the answer because I've been trying to do backup across the two Synology drives. I wonder if the folder I want to just mirror, if I use Resilio Sync. I don't think so. I mean, it would work.
But my question would be why not just use cloud station sync because that's built into your sonology and it knows about all okay that i haven't been using that either i was trying to use uh the backup and i don't want to use the you know no but you isn't really what i want that's not what you want cloud station sync the cloud station sync just like you would use on your mac and of course if you have a sonology either at
home or at work mark or anyone who wants to solve this problem then i i would go that route um but but you don't have to like like i said before cloud station sync was as robust as it is now i was using resilio sync on all of my macs and my disk station, just to sync all my documents work great yeah.
So that's my answer there any any more thoughts on that before we move on just uh i'm surprised mega survived i didn't know it was still around yeah yeah they are also known for hosting anything that you want to share there without um asking a lot of questions they're kind of like the millennium falcon of um of of file sharing services it's like no questions asked there you go has that continued though or is that just back left over from kim.com in the 90s and mega upload um i get
a lot of you know i i like live music and so there's a lot of live music that's shared via a variety of services and mega.nz is one of them when people just post in semi-public forums or whatever but the music that i'm getting is stuff that the bands that i'm getting it from most of them would allow uh but there's definitely some that's like yeah i don't think the band would authorize this but you know it's not it's not like but it
but it's it's live recordings that the band hasn't released it's not commercial stuff that that you could buy from the band this is stuff you couldn't buy from the band and so i don't know like i i don't know it's it's it's a great very gray area so hey speaking of um sonologies adam you got that ds S423 Plus going yet? Yeah, I do. I do. I finally went forward with it and decided to pull the trigger and just do the normal process of...
You know popping the drives shutting everything down popping the drives out of my existing one keeping track of the order popping them in the new one and just firing it up and letting it do its thing and despite you know some concerns that we had discussed on the show about the available storage for the operating system um it just worked right so like little to no issues like totally smooth process actually no issues i shouldn't even say little to no issues no issues um
other than okay i take it back there was one weird thing where i had trouble with my login for some reason okay so it was like my user account information didn't transfer over and i don't remember if i ended up doing i think i ended up having to do like a password reset through it so i don't know why it.
Got borked or how it got borked or even if it was truly borked it was it was really odd so when you know i went back to the to log into it i was having trouble logging in and that concerned me for a second but i got through that and now it's just been running great i know i'll say i don't run a lot of stuff on it it's basically plex and itunes backups that i mean those are the only two things i'm really using it for currently now i probably will expand on that now that
i have this model because the other one was so old i didn't really want to like push it too much but now i'll probably look into some other use cases or things to do with it but yeah i mean in terms of transition it was it was great and it's i mean the 423 plus that one of the reasons as we sort of went through it here on the show a couple of months ago and and narrowed down on that one for you was it's got a decent processor in it that also has a gpu which
will you'll do the transcoding for Plex and it's working fine for that. Yeah. Yeah. It's working awesome for that. I'll say the other thing that I did do before I did the transition is I did take one of the four terabyte drives that they had sent and popped it in my little USB-C toaster thing. Okay. Backed up my entire Plex library and my iTunes backups from it over the network. So I plugged that into my Mac and I grabbed all that data.
And backed that up just in case everything went south. Cause the main thing I cared about was all of the Plex data. Cause I had spent a long time, obviously ripping my entire DVD collection into Plex a long time ago. And it's like, I don't want to do that again. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Cool. Well, I mean, I have all the discs in the garage in a box, but I'm not going through, you know, 200 or whatever, however many DVDs I had, like a bunch.
No desire to redo that again. Well, now we've got to get you set up to sync the Mac eCab folder that I have on my disk station. Pete's got it synced on his, and we can get you synced on yours. And so that way we have that sort of collaborative thing happening, too. And it's super easy. In fact, you already have access to it. We just need to have you, like, sync to it, and you're good to go. Yeah. I mean, the other thing that I never got really set up and configured was, like, Sonali.
It's gone through several names but i think it's currently called sonology sonology drive like the cloud access to it yes yeah sort of stuff yeah it it's that's part of um it is part of sonology drive it's cloud station sync is um is what the you know well it's sorry i that's my old name in my head that's what they used to call it management uh no it's called sonology drive client uh is the thing that you would install on your mac right yes i run that up in my menu bar Exactly.
It's the Dropbox-like service, but it's private cloud. You're doing it on your own. And a Synology Drive client can also run on your Synology and connect to another Synology. And that's what you would do for our Mac eCab folder is connect yours to mine. And like I said, you've already got access to it. You just need to plug it in and yeah, you're good to go. So I have two minor administrative questions about this. One is, Adam, you mentioned you put all the drives in in the same order.
And I remember we mentioned that before. What's the importance of that? What if you stick in drive three first and then drive two? Will Synology just go stupid? That's my understanding, yes. Stupid's not the right answer. It will tell you you've done something wrong. Yes. Oh, okay. Okay, so it won't hopefully corrupt all your data. Correct. It tries to. Correct.
Yeah. Okay. No, but it'll tell you, hey, look, I can't, it might actually make sense of it and tell you you've done it wrong, but it will at the very least tell you, all I know how to do with this is format it are you sure that's what you want to do and and so this is why it when you are doing what adam did it and again just to kind of mark the drive paint the picture well my recommendation is yes if you want to mark the drives great but leave them in your old unit and move one at a
time and this way you know because if you take them all out and stack them on top of each other your elbow is going to hit that stack and then you're going to need to do the juggling game and and the shell game and you know get all the drives back in order so yeah and not to mention the numbers are are on the bottom of the drive slot they're not on the.
The drive they right outside of the drive itself that's right right so i was just thinking of taking a sharpie pen and marking the drive number as you pulled it out of the old one if you you know but that's yeah your way is much safer dave i literally because you have to shut them down to to do this process anyway. So I literally shut it down. I put one right next to the other pop drive one out of there, put it in drive one in the new one, up drive two.
And I had to like, they were all dusty and gross. And so, you know, I took the opportunity to.
Vacuum off the drives and yeah all right clean them up get all the get all the dust bunnies off and clean out the units and yeah yeah and so and the other quick question i had was uh i think we covered this on the show before the naming uh what's the word i'm looking for chad gpt can help pete yeah the naming convention essentially is so it's a 423 that tells me that adam's drive was built in 2023 and it's a four bay that is correct yes okay the it is a 423 plus the plus
used to mean something specific now it's more nebulous it just means it's like on the faster side of these types of things okay yeah and if somebody from sonology or anybody is listening and knows that knows there to be a more specific answer to that let us know feedback at mackie Okay. Please wait. Wait. Oh, they should send it to feedback at Mac geek gab.com. Yep. He said feedback at Mac geek gab.com Pete. Well, there you have it. There you go.
All right. Shall we? So this is great. I'm glad it went as smoothly as it did for you. Like, you know, I, I know I talked on the show about my, um, lost Saturday afternoon to a migration that, uh, that should have gone smoothly. It, and it certainly that happened. I didn't lie about that. But it was also, I've probably done 25 of these and that was the first one. And so far only one I've done one since then and it went fine.
So yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm still not ultimately thrilled that, you know, I still now have my operating system volume locked to, you know, the two gigabytes instead of eight gigabytes or whatever it is. Like, I feel like I have no headroom moving forward. and at some point I'm going to hit that. I have to imagine you're going to hit that. All right. Well, maybe not, because what we're talking about is the system partition on Synology's used to be two gigabytes.
They realized that there were scenarios, the one I described being one of them, but they knew it before my scenario happened that that where that was not enough. And so eight gigabytes is enough in Synology's mind. And I think they're correct about that based on what we're seeing, at least for a good long time. As far as going forward, for those of us that have volumes we've been migrating, any new disk that you put in after sometime last year, let's say middle of 2023.
That's not exactly correct, but it's close. We'll have an eight gigabyte system partition on it. Now, the issue is that is a RAID 1 mirror amongst all of them. And so it will only be effect. It will be two gigabytes effective until the smallest of the partitions is moved up to eight gigs. So as you replace drives in yours, as I am in mine. Yeah.
And I noticed that when I was learning all about Synology partitions that Saturday afternoon where I saw that two I had four drives and two of them had two gigabyte partitions and two had eight gig partitions. And it was like, oh, those are the two new ones. So they are working to upgrade us in the only way that you can ish. I mean, I guess technically they could like resurface the drive in place and create an eight gig partition, but like that gets super crazy, but yes.
So your problem might be solved before it becomes a problem for you. Yeah. Cause I think I already did. I want to say I did replace, I want to say I replaced one drive. So, um, I know that it might already be like that.
I know that I don't know them off the top of my head. I have logged somewhere in my notes, the terminal commands that you would type, uh, at the Synology command line with your Synology up and running just to see, not manipulate, but just to see the partition sizes on each of your drives. And then you, then you can know like, ah, okay. It's only these two left. So yeah. Yeah. Cool. Shall we move on to Jeffrey? Oh, go ahead. Well, quick question.
That's the memory size for the operating system for DSM? Yeah, for a disk station manager, essentially. Yes, it's the partition that they keep. And the reason they do it across all the drives and keep it mirrored is that way when any of your drives can be the boot drive. Because if they designated one as the boot drive and that was the drive that died, well... Game over. Yeah. Yeah. Sure, all your data's there, but you can't start the system.
So that's why they, I mean, it all makes sense. They just, they made a decision years ago about two gigs and lo and behold, it turns out now we need it to be bigger. Who knew? It's kind of like memory. Who would need more than 640K for memory? I'm asking for a friend. That question. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. At the time, it seemed like a good idea at the time. That's not. But that's the whole of like computing engineering decisions is you do make decisions based on what's a good idea at the time.
And even if you look at future proofing, you don't know what you can't know. So, right. It's that whole linear time thing. Oh, that. All right. Hey, well, how about I take us to Jeffrey's question? Let's do it. He writes in, he says, I had a playlist synced to my Apple Watch that I used for my walks with over 200 songs. Most of them never got played. For the last few months, I have used a playlist with 40 songs. Again, many have never played.
When I start a walk and go to the playlist, it always starts with the same song and plays every song in the same order. I no longer have a shuffle option on my watch. This is a fairly recent problem in that I don't remember my playlist being stuck on the same songs for eternity. Is there something I'm missing or something I'm doing wrong?
Anyone? one now i'll take it it sounds like these songs aren't being synced to jeff's watch uh or jeffrey's watch i'm sorry um you know and and so i i will i will approach this like i do most things on this show what would i do next if i were there um so i'd launch the watch app on my phone right on my iphone the apple watch app go to the music section and see what's set there and i'm assuming that Jeffrey's already done this, and that's how you see that, okay, these things are synced.
If you set a playlist to be synced, which it sounds like he has, then I would turn it off and let it remove it entirely from the watch. Then re-add it and see if that helps. Essentially, turn it off and turn it on again. I'm guessing this might not help. If it does, great, you're done. If it doesn't, then turn it off again on your watch.
Go to that playlist on your phone and tell it to download all of those songs to your phone so that your phone has local copies of all those songs with iCloud music. You can set playlists to stream certain songs to be downloaded, other songs not to be downloaded. And while I don't know what Jeffrey's problem is specifically, it sure sounds like it's like, well, I don't have the rest of these songs, so I can't play the rest of these songs. You take the reservation. Can you keep the reservation?
You have the list but can you play the list and if the answer is no and why would that be well if the songs aren't there and i've certainly seen that on my phone where i have a playlist and half of it's downloaded and half of it's not and i'm on a crummy connection or whatever things are wonky and i go to play it and it only just loops on the five songs that i have downloaded and the rest just get skipped because they ain't there so download them to your phone get them all
downloaded then go and re-add that playlist to your watch. I'm hoping, but also guessing that this is gonna solve the problem.
Uh you know that don't make sense to me yeah yeah sounds right what was surprising is uh so with playlists because i don't i don't use this feature on my apple watch this is more just a question sure that i have now so if i if i choose a playlist to be the thing that i sync to my apple watch so that i can you know offline play music on my apple watch it sounded like he was saying he doesn't have the option to shuffle it it can only go in order is that right or is this it's just a symptom
of not having all the music synced i think it i i don't think it was i think it was he shuffled it but he's getting the same you know 20 of the 40 songs or whatever yeah.
But yeah he said he said i seem to have lost the shuffle option in his oh interesting yeah okay so, that i don't know if that was a limitation of playlists like sometimes i think playlists are a special thing right like you curated a list of music and this is the order that you want to play it in should be able to play it but i don't but i don't know and i went to check on my watch and i'm wearing a mechanical watch today so it's like there you go it doesn't even have
a battery playlist it's not working dave is that your say yeah mine is also broken jeffrey i feel your pain yeah it wouldn't even unlock my computer this morning this thing sucks i would bet you someone in our community if they know will let us know we can share that next time absolutely so just I just went back and checked. Yeah. He says, I no longer have a shuffle option on my watch. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stay tuned. It may be once the full playlist is there, it can shuffle.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the other thing to check, and of course I don't have my watch to, um, to look into this, but is the amount of free storage on the watch. If you're if I don't know what else would be taking up storage other than songs, I don't think you're I don't think you've figured out how to watch movies on your watch. If you have feedback at Mac, you can't come. But I do audio books on my watch. Yeah, right. Oh, that's fair.
Yeah. So make sure you're not hitting a storage limit on your watch, too. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Should we help Rand with an email question? So Rand says, Hi guys, I recently sorted my emails by hand and found that there were 51 emails I cared about and more than 200 that I didn't care about at all. I'm using Apple Mail on Monterey. I recall Dave used to use a Mac Mail add-in or add-on that intelligently sorted mail as you use it into things to keep, things to delete, etc.
Cetera. I think it was an external service. He asked, does this still exist? And does it work on Monterey? I can't seem to find it in my notes. I would appreciate your assistance very much. Keep up the good work. Rand. So I jumped in front of Dave and answered this before he could get to it and said, my guess is SaneBox. And it turns out I was right. That's exactly what he was looking They used to be an advertiser on the show, and their code still works, sanebox.com slash MGG.
And at MacStock last week, Brett Terpstra was talking about SaneBox and achieving zero inbox, among other things, and all that. He said he's getting 900 emails a day. Ouch. That makes me look like a biker. speaker. So I went actually and grabbed SaneBox and I'm on the trial now. And so far, I love it. I don't know why I didn't use it before, but right now I'm loving it. One caution, by design, SaneBox is going to hide some of your email from you.
So read carefully through as you're setting it up and you're going to get a daily, I think I set mine to get a twice daily digest to go, So here's all the emails that came in and, here's what we did with them, review it and go, Oh no, you didn't put it where I want it to fix that. And it will remember when you train it, that's the word they use that, Hey, we trained.
This sender to go into this box and you can kind of give it a thumbs up and go, yeah, and do that for all emails from this sender or no, I want that to stay in my inbox so I can see it.
However you decide to do it, just be aware that you need to go looking for your emails until you're properly trained what it's doing for you um i i think it's but so far i think it's brilliant uh you know it this this this will betray how long i've been using sanebox i am fully aware of of the warning that you just set out in fact that is now so much a part of my life that when those daily digests come in from SaneBox I summarily delete them without even looking at them and it's
do you send them to SaneBox black I don't but that's essentially what happens I just take immediate delete but that's because I have gotten my life to the point where not only am I used to what SaneBox is doing not only have I trained it but I trust and I my workflow is such that I am looking in all of the places that SaneBox would put things on a sometimes scheduled basis.
Like, you know, I mentioned in a recent show how maybe it was a year ago, but I, you know, I look at my spam on a, on a, I have a calendar note to remind me to look at my spam for me. Every other day is a good pace where I can do it in 60 seconds or less. And I, and again, I'll share the tip that I sort my spam by from address so that all the same things are sorry. Sorry. No, I sort it by subject. That's where things get easier, but sorting it, you know, by, by something like that.
Um, it could be from address could be subject, you know, but something to collate all those things together. It works out great. Right. I also have on the opposite days, there is a same mailbox called Sane News, where it puts things that it thinks are newsletters. It doesn't always get these things right. As you said, Pete, you just move it to your inbox or whatever other mailbox you want it to be in.
And then SaneBox learns from that moment forward that that's what to do with messages like that. But I I check Sane News on the opposite days from when I check Sane Spam. So I'm doing one of those things every day, but not both on the same day unless I, you know, kind of fall way behind or whatever. But checking my Sane boxes is such a part of my routine. The nice part about it is. I'm able to focus on the things I want to focus on.
So I'm not looking at my inbox and having to parse through like, oh, these are receipts or these are newsletters or these are this or these are that. It's like now I'm going to spend my time focusing on newsletters and I can go through them really quickly because there's some I want to read and some I in that particular day. I don't want to read depends on what the newsletter is about and also how much time I have.
You know, I have another one for receipts. I have another one for various other things and it, I created one called Sane Watched, which is like not things I need in my inbox, but sort of the second layer of that. And that I, is all my training. Dave, you must be psychotic. You just answered the question I was going to ask, which is can you create other boxes for Sane Box to go to automatically? Totally. And it sounds like that's a firm yes.
Yes. Perfect. that's awesome okay and then i also use smart mailboxes to um to look at certain sane mailboxes and and sort of collate them together only show me unread things from the last three weeks from my you know whatever sane news box because i got to a point where my sane news box got so big that it was like okay i kind of have to punt but i don't really want to punt so it's like Like, all right, but now I can see only the new stuff that's unread and I can sort that by sender,
which in a, in the news mailbox is super handy. I don't care really what time it came in. I care about who it's from. And it's like some of these things like, oh, I don't care about anything from this guy, you know, today, but, oh, that one I kind of want to look at. And if there's two or three days worth of it there, I've got them all in the same spot. So perfect. Yeah.
Yeah. It's, it really is. It's great. great yeah it's great i didn't mean for this episode to include a primer on sane box but, clearly i love this thing i just i just want to add that word hides just so people are uh aware and i think maybe from what you guys just talked about they understand yeah that was a pejorative word i'll give you that i want to make it really clear.
It's SaneBox's job to move emails out of your inbox that are not prioritized as something that, you know, you immediately want to see or need access to. So the whole idea behind SaneBox is it's a filter on your incoming mail and you set it up and train it so that, okay, this coming in, this is a receipt. And in my case, that goes to like SaneBulk. So if it's like I made an online
order, you know, or something, receipts go there. And like Dave said, if it's a newsletter I subscribe to or some sort of thing, it goes to a newsletter mailbox. It gets it out of your inbox. So when you're looking at your inbox, you're only seeing things that you truly want in your inbox. And then it moves these to other places. So you just have to learn and sort of train like, okay, I know if I'm looking for that newsletter I subscribe to, it's going to be over here.
It's never going to be in my inbox. and if i want it in my inbox if i'm like that particular newsletter i do want my inbox you just literally move it to your inbox and as dave said it will eventually learn that okay that one newsletter you want in inbox and the other stuff can go other places and eventually is often immediately learn um yeah yeah it's pretty quick it's pretty quick yeah yeah yeah but like there's another
one that's kind of handy called saying not spam and i have to go remember to go look in there every once in a while because what that is is like we think this thing looks kind of spammy but it's not really spammy so maybe it's something you actually do want tell us what you want to do.
With this one or like pete said same black hole is like really really spammy stuff and it's just like we think that you don't care about this at all and don't want it but we're not just going to delete it we're going to move it over here so you can check yeah and the same that same not spam folder has saved my butt. I would say probably six times a month. This isn't SaneBox's spam filter. It's SaneBox's anti-spam filter, right? It's the opposite of that.
So I use FastMail for my mail. Therefore, I use FastMail as my spam filter. It's great, but it's not perfect. And sometimes a legitimate thing makes it there.
And I will tell you, SaneNotSpam catches more of those than i catch using what my my my every other day scan through my my spam folder like it's nice it's uncanny well because it knows it it knows you know that you've got email going here and there and like the types of things that you actually interact with and it's like i think you want this it's like oh holy crap that's like somebody with an insertion order like that's
you know cash business right well not cash because nobody uses cash but you know what i mean yeah that's i've I've already found that it does a nice job finding spam that. That isn't otherwise found though. Yeah. Most people find this annoying. Oh yeah, me too. Same. Right. Yeah. It's a really good system. I've always said that if SaneBox ever goes out of business, my top priority will be building another version of SaneBox to do the things that I need it to do. And there's way more.
There's the reminders. There's all kinds of things that we can get into, but we're not because we need to move on. It's time to move on. It is. Because I want to share a cool stuff found that I showed you, Pete, in the airport. Yes. Yeah. We wound up flying. Well, we flew out and I'll say halfway back in Pete's plane. And then we wound up flying commercial because we had to drop your plane off to get painted. But that meant that we were out of the crummy Wi-Fi at the hotel and on to airport
Wi-Fi, which was like a breath of fresh air. But that also meant I could download the plug in. I alluded in the in the ad about ZocDoc that we trusted that the audio from the room would work great for episode 1046. It there was a lot of awful things about the audio that particular night. One of them was we were talking into microphones that were being amplified into the same room. So you got some feedback into the mics and echo from the room because there's
a huge conference room that we were in. And then also the audio that was coming out of the speakers was also delayed, which certainly didn't help matters. So I didn't want to subject you all to that audio in its raw form. But I also didn't have the plug in on my laptop to fix it. But I finally did and was able to do it in the airport and get it uploaded on Monday, which is why you all got that.
But um the so i have two i use the waves i want to get the name right waves clarity vxd reverb plug-in and this is basically it on its default setting so i'm going to play you uh before the plug-in the intro of 1046 and then uh i'll play it after so let's see how this goes all right here Here we go. So this, as far as you know, is MacGeekGab 1046 for Monday, July 15th. National be adored. All right. So you got that. Here we go.
All right. Here we go. So this, as far as you know, is MacGeekGab 1046 for Monday. Way tighter, right? Like, it's not perfect. But yeah. Oh, it's a live studio audience. Correct. I mean, it sounds like it's live, but it took, and this was a, I mean, it took longer to write the file to disk than it did for the plugin to like tune itself to it. It basically happened in real time once I was able to get the plugin loaded. So, and I think that's available for like 40 or 50 bucks right now that waves
Clarity Plugin. So if you are someone who needs something like that ever, go get it. It's amazing what can be done. And this didn't require me sampling anything or tweaking. I mean, there's a knob in the plugin. There's also the pro version. I didn't have a lot of time in the airport, so I didn't want the pro version for that because I didn't want more knobs and switches. I wanted to turn it on. And there's a knob that goes from zero to 100, essentially.
I don't know what their metrics are. But I just turned it up and I got it to about 40 or 50 percent. It was like, sounds good to me. Giddy up. Let's go. Because if you go too far, it starts sounding sort of weird. And so I got it to a point where it sounded natural. I put my earphones in Pete's ears and and he was like, wow, that sounds great. I'm like, OK, sold. Ship it. Out it went. Fun. Nice. You got one for us, Pete? That was cool. I do. Two, I found one that I absolutely love.
It's called 10minutemail.com. Not 10-minute email. Do not go to that one. 10-minute mail. There's only one E after the T. Okay. Why would you want 10-minute mail? It's free, temporary email.
Okay. So you need to sign up for a site which requires you provide an email address and you want to be subjected to a bunch of spam and you don't want to have to buy SaneBox in order to prevent you from getting all that spam, get this email address, put it in, and it will send it to you right there on their website. It's all web-based. You get your email. You can provide your validation code.
Bang, zoom, boom, you're done. And if you need more time than 10 minutes, there's a great big button there that says get 10 more minutes, and you can keep that Sane email address as long as you keep refreshing it. And what a great way to go. And it also looks like they have on their website a free metadata remover for cleaning photos and videos before posting or sharing them. I just am noticing that as I am reading about 10-minute mail.
So if you look down to the right there, look at what that's like. Interesting. Cool. Yeah. So you don't take a picture of your front yard and give everyone your address. Yeah, right. Right. And you've used this. It works all right for you? I've used 10-minute mail. I have not used the metadata remover as yet. Okay. I just noticed that as I was reading. Got it. No, that's what I mean. 10-minute mail you've used. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yes. I have used it. It works great.
It lasts a long time. Amazing. Well, 10 minutes anyway. Yeah, well, you know, that's as advertised. At MaxDoc, Kaylee was an attendee. You know, at MaxDoc, everybody's an attendee, Even if you happen to be doing a session, it's all this very collaborative environment. It really it's a it's one of my favorite conferences to go to for a lot of reasons. And I think it was Alison Sheridan who was giving the presentation at the time.
But Kaylee from the audience, three seats down from me or whatever, chimed in about a utility called RDM, which we believe is retina display manager. And it will show you it's it's free available on GitHub and it shows you all the possible resolutions and will highlight the ones that are, you know, retinized by dropping a little lightning bolt next to them. So or as as the industry likes to call it, if you're not Apple high DPI that picked up, you know, the high pixel density.
But, yeah, RDM, if you need to pick a resolution for your display that is slightly different from the ones that Apple wants to show you and you don't want to go through the open up system settings, displays, hold down the option key, wave your flag just right and do all the things, RDM is right there on the menu bar and you're good to go. You can do whatever you want. It shows you them, shows you what it's currently set to, and then lets you set it to all of the ones it can find for you,
including many that Apple would not. So that's already hidden. Yeah. Those that are, those that are semi-hidden. Yeah. I mean, you can, you can see a lot of those with the option, clicking the option key in the right spots in the display system preferences, but, um, it gets a little, you know, it's, it's annoying to have that. Yeah. Yeah.
You want to take us to Bruce Pete? Yeah, Bruce writes in, hi guys, do you remember that wonderful utility that Apple used to bundle with Mac OS called Network Utility? Do you remember that for some reason, a bizarre reason, Apple discontinued it in Mac OS 11? Well, Devon Technologies has revived this app and is offering it for free at devontechnologies.com slash apps slash freeware.
And as they sign their website, all similarities with an application of the same name that was once bundled with legacy versions of Mac OS X and OS X are, of course, purely coincidental. Names were changed to protect the innocent. And Devon Technologies, that's D-E-V as in Victor, O-N as in November Technologies. And the links in the show notes go there. It's not only network utility. Utility, it's all kinds of freeware apps on that link.
So very cool stuff there. Thank you Bruce for sending that to us. Huh. I had no idea this existed. I'm going to download it now. That's handy. Yeah. Photo stickies, X menu. Great stuff. Cool. Fun. Great. Yeah. Love that. That's awesome. Thanks, Bruce. If you are listening to this show in Overcast, you will have noticed that this week Overcast got an overhaul. All Marco Arment rewrote the foundation of Overcast for the first time since its inception, which is 10 years ago.
A lot of it looks the same. It's just, you know, smoother behind the scenes, allows for faster iterations and for new features and things like that. There is one thing that is gone and seems to be intentionally gone from this, just so we all know. And that is streaming. Marco's description, most big podcasts now use dynamic ad insertion, which causes bugs and problems for streaming playback.
On today's fast networks, downloading episodes completely before they begin playback is much more reliable.
Reliable i i certainly can attest to this experience with prior versions of overcast where i would start streaming something and it would you know there was a jankiness about it now i know why um but if you if you don't have something downloaded you're in your car you hit play there will likely potentially be a slightly longer delay before it starts playing and that's because of of this decision uh that was that was made in the in the engineering
process but um but the rest of it is all i i've been using the new version for a little while and it's it's great so.
Just fyi yes it's funny yeah you know i hadn't even ever thought about the fact that it that there's dynamic ad in there but yeah it if i'm overseas and i download an episode i could be a week later i play it and i start getting ads in german right right right yeah exactly you know that's interesting yeah yeah yeah and i started getting ads about something in chicago uh from some episodes i downloaded while we were at mac stock so i was listening last night
i'm going chicago oh yeah okay the new weird fun one for me is i get ads about tractors and fertilizer oh yeah you live in tractor and fertilizer land now, Huh. That makes sense. Nice. Devin Think as an email archive utility. And, you know, Dev and Think is one of these things that you put all of your data documents that you want into it. And it allows you to like analyze, collate, relate and file and connect them in ways that other apps don't.
It was like potentially the first time I was exposed to what we would now call machine learning, but on your own data set and only your own data set. So not leveraging the large language models or anything, but that same sort of thing where it's just sort of intuiting things about your data and relating them together. And so using that for an email archive seemed kind of brilliant to me.
And it's the first time, you know, I've said that I keep all my email in IMAP servers so that I can access it from my mail client no matter where I am and I do and it's great and I told Brett about it and he was like, oh my gosh, I have to do that. He's like, I need to set up a mail server on my Synology. So we'll see if he does but I was equally kind of blown away by the Dev and Think idea of archiving my mail because mainly I'm going to want to search it.
How's that running your own mail server going, Dave? Great. It really truly is. Yeah, because A, it is not a mail server I rely on for inbound mail. I do get inbound mail to it, but it's only as a litmus test. That way, if I don't see new messages there, I know something's wrong. I don't use it to send email, but I do use it to archive all my email.
It's a mail server for one. I mean, if Lisa wanted to use it or whatever, I would, I would, you know, show her how to, it's sort of already on for her because it's on for anybody who's a user of my disc station, I think. But I'd show her, you know, what to do with it or whatever. But as an archive, it's great. Great. Yeah. The, the, the thing where I swore I would never run a mail server again and still maintain that is I don't want to be the one running the mail server.
That's like the front door for not just me, but you know, everybody in the company or whatever, because it's, you got to stay on top of so many things to run a mail server that it is a full-time job. And that's my say, I use fast mail. That's why I use fast mail. It's like, they understand it is their full-time job. So, yeah, but yeah, it's going great. Super reliable.
Knock on wood right but again if it died like if the server engine stopped running all my mails are in emlx files on the on my server so i just go get them and put them somewhere else so yeah yeah okay yep um i think that's it i think i think we need is there is there one more thing anybody wants to talk about or are we uh are we good do i hear something. Is that what you're looking for, Pete? I hear something. The music's there.
I hear music. Yeah, the music's there. Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. Thanks for, you know, thanks for everything. This is, we love doing this, and I really appreciate it. I know we all do. At least I think we all do. I think I can speak for these guys. If you love doing it enough to do it again next week, that's my question. I'll do it again next week, sure. Adam, you up for doing it again next week? Yeah, I'll be here. Okay, great. Sweet. Looks like 1047 isn't the planned end
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Adam, any final three words here before we let him go? Yeah, I would tell folks, please don't get caught. May not. See ya. Later.