It's time for Matt Geek Cab and listener, wait, which listener? Joe brings us our quick tip of the week saying that he's had an Apple Watch since the first edition, edition zero. He says, I keep one in my exercise room and wear it during workouts. Only today did I notice a feature I never have heard about nor seen.
So I'm sharing when in exercise mode, you can swipe up on the Apple watch and get some very timely information, real time information regarding a heart rate and stress zone for cardio. Also time, uh, all kinds of things. He says, this is great, but who knew? So I needed to share. Thank you for sharing Joe. More tips like this, plus your questions answered today on MacGeekGab 1038 for Monday, May 20th, National Streaming Day 2024.
Music. Folks, and welcome to Mac Geek Gab, the show where we indeed share your quick tips like that. We share some quick tips from us. We share cool stuff found that we all find. We share your questions, hopefully with some answers that we can help with, stringing it all together into an agenda that gives us all a fantastic opportunity to learn at least five new things.
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And here in South Dakota, I am Adam Christensen. And here in Lee, New Hampshire, streaming to you from Lee. This is Pilot Pete. The three musketeers ride again. We're finally back together. Well, I know. It's like a comedy of errors. Well, that would be the three amigos then, I guess. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Speaking of streaming.
Speaking of streaming yeah all right so it's national streaming day uh i figured it'd be fun to talk about what we're each watching just you know a couple of things just to it's a good conversation to have there's so many things out there to watch uh that i we'd i'd love to to kind of talk about it and then of course you folks listening send in what you're watching feedback at mackeycab.com so yeah you want to kick us off adam you
got you got well no i was just three Free Amigos reminded me that I had recently watched, I think it's on Apple TV Plus, if I'm remembering right, the Steve Martin series.
Documentary oh that came out which was excellent was that good yeah it was really really good i hope hopefully i'm remembering right that it was apple one i can't remember which service brought it out well that's the thing yeah it's it is it's called watch steve uh right yeah yeah very cool it's actually in two parts too it's like his early career and then okay his later career so they kind of do it in two pieces and it's very very good very interesting and they cover the jerk and you know three
amigos and all that stuff all right well there you go that's the first addition to the list right exactly and he gives one of my favorite definitions in the world this is definition of a first world problem i think my masseuse is a little chatty. That is a first world problem you know while we're on that though uh i'll take us down into our first tangent of the day. All right.
I would love to be able to go and get my haircut without having to have a conversation, like an in-depth conversation with the person cutting my hair. Like, I have to prep for this. I don't want to have to prep for a haircut. Right, wake me up when it's over. That's it. That's it. Yeah, I'd pay extra for like the silent treatment. That'd be great. It'd be nice. Anyway.
Yeah i don't know sometimes some days i like the conversation but some days i just want to like power down you know exactly we want to go through each of our lists or we want to round robin this or round robin it pete you got one to add okay i do um it's this one's kind of a downer i hate to say but uh i i watched it and i've got i'm up on four there's four episodes right now okay i'm coming up on number four it's uh it was done by cnn but it's available on amazon it's space shuttle columbia the
final flight yeah so one of my best friends from flight school was dave brown dr dave brown and he was on columbia we went down for the launch thank god i didn't go down for the recovery with my son at the time uh it was uh but it it talks about everything to include you know interviews with all the family members and the engineers and the ones who were fighting Hey, you've got to look at this thing. This is a problem. It's not a, not an issue, but oddly the ones that said it's no issue.
Yeah. Right. Unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Uh, but yeah. And yeah. So we were right there in the stands with the families, uh, at launch. And it was, it was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life. And then to lose them all like that was, was a real downer, like I say, but yeah. Um, fascinating in depth as to how it all happened. all came together. Yeah. Right. Came apart. Right.
Yep what you dave um bring us back up brother we have been watching this is not on streaming though everything's on streaming like it doesn't i don't i don't i don't even know where things come from anymore but uh but we've been watching tracker which it's this show's fantastic i think it's the number one show on tv given the right criteria and i don't know what that criteria is Like, I don't know what you include and exclude to get that.
But yeah, it's it's about to air its final episode or release its final episode, whatever term we're supposed to use these days. But or maybe it did just release like Sunday night on the 19th. It released its final episode. So but it's it's a story about a guy who basically spends his life as he does contract jobs searching for people. So if you've got a missing person, you hire this guy and and he goes and finds him. And of course, he's got an interesting team behind him and all this stuff.
And he's in different locations around the United States. He's sort of a loner, but not really. And there's some character development that happens, of course. But even just individually, you could you could drop into almost any episode of it that I've watched so far. I have not watched the fight this season finale. But but you could drop into any episode and be like, oh, yeah, I get this show. Like, it's it's fascinating and interesting.
And the stories are different. And there's a nerdy guy in it that like does all of his like tech work. And and so like there's that element of it. But but it's a really well done show. Both Lisa and I love it. But actually, everybody in that, like when Lucas was home, he watched an episode with us. He's like, this is fantastic. So is it reality TV? No, no. Fiction. Oh, no, it's fiction. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's fiction. Yeah. There's there's a script and there's actors.
Yes. Gotcha. Okay. No, it's a fair question. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's on CBS, but, you know, it's you could stream it, I'm sure, from CBS. So, yeah. Yeah. Fun, fun little show. I'm going to give away that I, that I watch a lot of documentaries that like I'm big on documentary stuff. So like the other thing I am addicted to, and then there's a new episode out tonight.
So I'm excited is welcome to Rexham, which is about, um, uh, now I'm going to blank on Ryan Reynolds and, um, Rob McElhenney, Rob McElhenney, the other guy, they always make fun out of him but uh yeah buying a football club in Wrexham UK and there's three seasons now they're on the third season and it is just fascinating to see what they're doing with this club in this old town and and bringing the team along and and they also kind of go on tangents so there's often there'll be
a story kind of in the main thread of what's happening with the team but then they also throw in these very interesting stories about different players like there was a whole couple episodes about the women's team. Um, and it's just, it's fascinating and I absolutely love it. I'm totally addicted to it. It's great. It's on Hulu. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We watched one season of that and I, for whatever reason, I, I sort of lost, I don't want to say I lost interest.
It just, we never resumed it at some point. So I'm glad to hear that. It's, um, that, that like it has continued to be good. That's great. Speaking of documentaries, I was on a train again last week and watched on my way back from New York. I watched a documentary that Stuart Copeland, drummer from The Police. Put out called Everyone Stares, The Police Inside Out.
He was always into like capturing things and so even in the very early days of the police he had a video camera with him and just took footage of all kinds of moments including a lot it i he clearly got into a habit of walking on stage every night with the camera in his hand you'd see stewart and staying in andy you know kind of walking on stage in front of him he would.
Like take a quick shot of the crowd and then hand the camera to someone his drum tech or you know road manager or something as he got behind the kit and sort of wave and start the gig it's interesting to see the size of the crowds evolve throughout the beginnings of their career but also just a lot of the behind the scenes stuff and he assembled this uh i think with one of his brothers uh you know that helped him kind of produce it and put it all together and string it into
a tellable story and it was really well done fascinating obviously i'm a i'm a drummer i'm a police fan and i'm also like you adam a fan of just documentaries that are you know that kind of give you an inside look at things and so uh all of that put together i i really i i was i wasn't sure how how much of it i'd watch and i was like i ravenously just watched the whole thing it's not that long it's maybe 80 minutes or something so yeah yeah
now i have to ask you this isn't really a streaming show or anything like that but um have you seen the movie whiplash oh yeah oh yeah. I i have a funny story about that movie there there is a moment in that movie that's very it's a movie about a um a a teacher really and a drummer in a in a college i guess college yeah yeah i actually knew a teacher like that um i thought they made the movie about him uh they They did not.
Yeah, they did make it. But there was someone else that was the inspiration. But I knew someone like that. Thankfully, never really had them as a teacher because I don't know that I'd want a teacher like that. Yeah. Yeah. But but it's about a teacher. A flight instructor like that. Or anyone. Yeah, right. Yeah. But, you know, he was very demanding teacher. But there's a moment in that movie where there's a tragedy, a surprise tragedy that that happens. And it's a shocking moment. And, uh.
I watched it with my daughter on an airplane for the first time. And when that happened, we both screamed out and my wife looked at us and she was like, nope, you can't do that on an airplane. Right. Yeah. So people know, I mean, it's kind of a, it's kind of a dark drama movie. I mean, like, yeah, you have to be in the right headspace, I think, to watch that. But it was, I thought it was amazing. Oh, I thought I loved it. Oh yeah. It's a great movie, but yes, it's heavy. Yeah, for sure.
So well thinking of dark drama then i'll take you into the other one that um i i contend to this day uh and and it's actually two different series but uh they're they're prequel sequel i guess and then one becomes the prequel and then the sequel it it ends as a sequel spoiler alert is best written show ever i think is breaking bad and better call saul i thought you were going yellowstone Yellowstone and it's 1886. Also very good.
Yellowstone in 1883 and 1923. Very good. Still waiting on the second season of 1923. Well, yeah. But Breaking Bad, here's the thing, and I can't tell you how many people have come back to me and said, I watched a couple episodes, I couldn't get into it, of Breaking Bad. That's me. You can't. It's going to take six to get into it. I think I watched a whole season of it. But yeah.
It's the best written series ever. i just the writing on it is astounding yeah yeah interesting cool yeah cool all right one one more from uh from each of us and then we gotta get into quick tips here but uh no this was fun like it's a fun little detour to take yeah yeah so go ahead adam yeah so my last one is i'm i'm into like any streaming car show so there's like rust valley restores they're just any of these sort of car shows but like my
latest one actually turns out to be i think it was originally a just a youtube show but it's called Roadkill and it's done by um. Hot Rod Magazine, basically. They have all these shows. And now there's a million versions of Roadkill now, but this is the kind of original one. And it's these two guys. They go out and they find just cruddy, like mostly Mopar kind of muscle cars and then just trick them out. But they don't like restore them.
They just have these rust buckets and they throw massive engines in them and they just tweak them. And then they have to road trip them. They don't like trailer them or anything.
Thing they literally road trip them back home and they break down and it's just like about all the stuff they do like they were traveling one time i forget where and the the car had no windows no heater and it was like freezing cold and so they just rolled into like a like a gas station and they just get like blankets and hats like and they're just like going in there like you know if they if they if they don't have a good fuel cell they'll just get a fuel tank and just run
a fuel you know, like a gap, you know, the red gas, emergency gas can stick it in the trunk. Yeah. You know, a lot of times it overheats. So they have to take the hood off the front of the car, just strap it to the roof. And it has like 10 seasons. I'm working my way through it and they get better. Like the original ones, you can tell it was really like a YouTube show, you know, because it kind of had that quality and they just kind of filmed it themselves.
And as it's gotten more popular, they've been able to take it further. So that's cool. It's a fun show. That's cool. And that's on a max, I think. Okay. It's like a discovery kind of thing or something. Yep. Yep. All right. Cool. Pete, you got a, I do. And Dave, you turned me on to this one and folks. If you don't, you're going to be disappointed. There's only one season. But it was really well written, really well acted, and a lot of fun.
And basically, a look at how Saturday Night Live is made. Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. Such a good show. Really, really good show. What a disappointment that canceled. And I get it. No one's interested in what stars and TV producers in Hollywood do. I don't think that's why it was canceled. I have a theory. Well, it debuted the same time that the Tina Fey show also about making Saturday Night Live or a show like it.
Right? Fair enough. off yeah why can't i 30 rock right it it debuted i think in the same season as 30 rock and so i think they're like the public chose one but people weren't going to watch two shows about the same thing right 30 rock was good i think studio 60 was so much better and of course it was it was written by aaron sorkin yeah like yeah yeah matthew perry talks about it in his book he said it's the best show he was ever involved with which
is interesting coming from a friend's star yeah exactly yeah but go and watch it like we did we just watched it recently the whole thing and and and devoured it like it was yeah if did i except as we got close to the end you know disappointed the last the last you know episode 18 19 20 21 whatever it was we were like oh we should slow down and savor these like we would intentionally like set our phones far away from us so that we wouldn't be distracted and we could just like really focus
and yeah my favorite episodes had john goodman and it is a nevada judge yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah he was awesome yeah yeah well if you if you get disappointed with one season of that you can get another two that i think are. Somewhat similar from Aaron Sorkin and go all the way back to Sports Night. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Sports Night was... It wasn't, I think... Sports night was his weakest work, but, but maybe better to say his least strong work because it was excellent.
Studio 60, I think it was better newsroom. Oh yeah. It was better. I don't know which I like better newsroom or West wing from him. I sort of go back and forth. Um, but yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, now what I have to add is nothing in comparison to anything that Sorkin has ever done. So I should stop, but I'm not going to. A guilty pleasure of ours has been watching a show on Apple TV Plus called Acapulco. It's 30 minute episodes. It's a it's a fantastic show. Season three just just was released.
We haven't started watching season three. We've been wrapping up like Tracker and other things.
But um but it's it's a show about a guy who worked at a resort and then made a bunch of money and we don't quite know how he made his money at least i don't think and he's telling his life story to his nephew and and as he tells it you then you then see it dramatized i mean it's all drama like it's not it's it's there's it's all fiction but it's it's very it's it's fun like i said it's a guilty pleasure i it seems like you you've watched some of it adam
i've watched a couple episodes my daughter loves it yeah absolutely loves it and i think she's gone off seasons i just you know it's like we're in a great time because there's this like glutton of things to watch like i have a list a mile long i'm never gonna get to all of it and you know that's on the list and yeah it just goes on and on and on what was the old song dave about you know. It's like 137 channels and nothing on or yeah yeah and now we have the opposite
of that yeah Yeah, that's quaint. Yeah, that's quaint. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, my watch list or my two, at some point, I would like to watch list is, yeah, it's an embarrassment of riches is what it really is. It's a first world problem. It is the first world problem. I've been watching that two soccer hallways in the Discord, Adventures of Dick Turpin, made up, completely made up Adventures of Dick Turpin. Oh, okay. Which is also on Apple TV, which is another 30-minute comedy about highway robber.
Okay. All right. Yeah. So that comes from, yeah, hallways in our Discord. I'm assuming that's soccer. I'm CCR hallways. Oh, yeah. Okay. Nice catch. That's either soccer or sucker. Sucker. Moving to quick tips. There we go. Get us out. Yep. Let's get us back on track. of the ripcord here alex shared one that this blew my mind uh he says uh. On the iPhone, to paste text without its original formatting, it is possible to use a simple, native, and more or less convenient way.
Just copy it without formatting first. Easier said than done. He says this is a complex, because most of the time when you copy text on the iPhone, it just inherits whatever the formatting is. And when you go to paste it, it inherits whatever the formatting was. And that can be a pain in the neck if you're trying to paste into an email or whatever. So he says to do this, select the when you select the text and then from the horizontal text context menu, right?
The there's the little ribbon that shows up after you've selected text and it says, you know, copy and select all and all of those things that appear there. Keep going on that. Hit the little arrow and don't choose copy, but choose share.
And then in the share sheet choose copy and when you do that it behaves a little differently and grabs just the text not the with the formatting and he says uh ipads behave ipad os behaves the same way so thank you for that alex very cool yeah it seems like you knew that pete or you'd use that uh i i know i just found it after he wrote in got it and it's like that is, But it's well hidden, that's the thing, that little tape comes up,
you know, cut, paste, copy, but the share is hidden, you gotta hit the little three dots to the right and get the rest of the ribbon. Yep. There it is. There it is, yep. Hidden in plain sight. Hidden in plain sight, yeah, for sure. Yeah, so I wanna take us to Jim, but before I do, I wanna mention your opening quick tip was about swiping up on the app and watch in the workout to see details. You can go into the watch app on your iPhone.
And go into settings on that and have the Apple Watch detect when you're working out. So if you forget to start a workout or you're out walking, it'll count. Just go into the My Watch tab, scroll down to workout, and you can turn on start workout reminder and end workout reminder. So it'll tell you, hey, you know, looks like your workout's over. Do you want to end? Oh, yeah, I forgot to hit end. Oh, yeah, I love that when I'm driving home, like if we've gone for a hike or something.
It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I haven't been. And I haven't, it turns out my watch knows that I'm not good at walking at 30 miles an hour. So, yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, but then Jim sent in this quick tip. He says, hi, guys. I do a long distance, or, yeah, do a lot of long distance driving, trips of five to six hours and up to 12 hours. And when I drive, I find my Apple Watch dies pretty quickly. I guess the motion of your arm that causes the wrist to raise functionality
to kick in a lot more often than when I'm at home. So to save battery life, I turn off wake on wrist raise option, and I also activate the low power mode. That makes sure I have battery for the entire trip and until I can recharge when I reach my destination. I want to be sure I don't get caught without potentially life-saving features of the watch, which have bailed me out in the past. Jim, I wrote him back. I said, hey, that's sound advice, Jim,
and we're definitely going to share it on the show. But the other thing I wanted to point out is several weeks ago, my sister was complaining about her Apple watch and said, she's never going to buy another one. I'm like, wait, what? You know, what, what's the problem? I don't know anybody that doesn't love their Apple watch. And she said, well, you know, I get about six hours and the battery dies and it's only a couple of years old.
I'm like, yeah, something's wrong. I asked her if she updated the watch OS. She looked at me like a dog looks at a clock. What? Like, yeah. Yeah, so I took her watch and we updated the OS and boom, she was back to normal. So I remember.
Probably two or three os updates on the watch back uh they they were having some battery issues and i think they addressed it and so you know that that fixed it for her as well and then the other thing i do the tip i have is at night i'll go into theater mode because i don't want the light to bother me when i wake up and you know i'm rolling over and the other thing i like about that is when you're in theater mode and you hit the night light it automatically comes on red instead of bright white
so yep but apple you still need to go when someone goes to the red screen on the apple watch ultra you need to be able to go to the red nightlight mode you know there's a reason i'm in red pete's gonna keep banging this drum is this gonna be like i chat with tabs was uh it was a whole thing i don't even know if you were part of the show at that point pete but maybe but yeah we We ranted about iChat needing tabs until iChat got tabs. And now, of course, iChat, well, it's evolved into messages.
And that's a different thing now. I have a feeling another thing people don't think about is, again, we talked about managing your notifications better. Like, if you have a gazillion notifications, your watch is going to be going off all the time, right? Yep. And popping up stuff. Yeah. I also think part of Jim's problem specifically was that it's happening while he's driving. Presumably, I don't think it's because he was like raising his wrist.
Maybe. But I think it's because he has a map going on his phone and that lights up the watch screen directions. Yeah. So the watch isn't sleeping as much because it keeps showing the directions and and tapping his wrist. It's those taps that that you know burn a lot of battery too yeah running that a little eccentric motor yeah exactly yeah exactly yep yep awesome yeah yeah yeah.
Uh we had one from jonathan yeah about apple watch battery stuff so he says first big thank you for your podcast i've listened for years always helpful informative and entertaining and even more so since pilot pete and adam joined the team many thanks i use an apple watch 9 it is excellent and the battery life is so much better than my old apple watch 5 which was showing age and needing to be recharged several times a day anyway two weeks ago i suddenly
found the apple Apple Watch 9 battery wasn't lasting. I would fully charge in the morning, and by late afternoon, it was at 16%, or overnight, it was going from fully charged to 21%. I hadn't installed any new apps, but it may well have been that in updating my iPhone 12, the watch apps had been updated. No idea. I wonder if it was hardware related. I wondered if it was hardware related, but I thought that this was unlikely
as generally hardware either works or it doesn't. So I thought it was software. I tried a normal reboot of the watch, made no difference. What I did then was a complete reset and reinstall of the watch. And in the 10 days since, it has gone back to normal with excellent battery duration. I have no idea which part of the software caused the problem as unlike the iPhone, you can't see which apps are consuming the most power. Hope that, I hope this is of help to someone. Thanks again, Jonathan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. I've found that. And Apple has found this too, which is why this feature exists.
If you go in on your, in the watch app on your iPhone, phone you can't do this on the watch but if you go to the watch if you're having battery life issues, go to the watch app on your phone go to general go to reset and go to reset sync data that resets and it will tell you this that resets the contacts and calendar sync data which for some reason gets stuck in like a sync loop or something and of course when the watch is awake and syncing the battery is going to burn faster than
when it's asleep and chilled so i've certainly seen that And several times have had to hit the, you know, hit the magic button, that magic button and and fix it. So that that might also that might have been Jonathan's issue. Like we don't get to know, obviously, but. And when I read that answer from you, Dave, I went, oh, maybe even that's what happened to my sister. Because when you install a new watch OS, you're resetting all this stuff. Yes.
Yes. Right. In other words, Apple may not have addressed a battery issue after all, but just installing the new OS resets everything. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right.
Speaking of reinstalling OSes. Yes. Yeah we had a question that we kind of turned into a quick tip because i think it comes up for a lot of people and that was what do you do when you sell your old mac and you want to like you know get it cleaned off and and ready to go and the quick tip on this is there's actually a great article over at apple that we'll link to in the show notes called what to do before you sell giveaway trade in or recycle your mac and
it covers every area era of mac so like if you have a new modern mac with a t2 chip it talks about using the erase all content and settings uh if If you have an older Mac, it talks about all the things you need to do.
They've made it a lot easier, folks, because if you have an older Mac that doesn't have those security chips and doesn't have the erase all contents and settings, you need to sign out of iTunes, sign out of iCloud, sign out of iMessage, unpair your Bluetooth devices, and then erase your Mac and reinstall the OS. And the other question that comes up related to this, and the second part of this tip is if you do want to reinstall the OS, there's another article for that.
And we'll link to that as well. And it's how to reinstall Mac OS. And again, it covers all the different options, including using Mac OS recovery. And also, a question that I get a lot from a lot of people is where is the operating systems and it has a link there to all of the various operating systems that you can download either from the Mac App Store. So it'll have direct links because you can't find them on the Mac App Store. If you just go there, look for them.
Older OSes, you need to go right to the page. So they're still on there. This article will link you to all of them. And for ones that aren't on the Mac App Store, it also has downloads going all the way back to Mac OS 10.7 Lion. So, all right, look, we all know that life is full of compromises, like choosing that budget friendly apartment, even though your upstairs neighbor thinks they're the next Ringo Starr at 2 a.m. Wait, how did Chet GPT know I was a drummer?
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I have rebuilt the index multiple times, and it continues to lose its memory. I have just initiated a sudo mdutil-e slash command again. Again, that's, again, again, rebuild thing. And I have also used Onyx to perform these tasks. Do you have any suggestion on how to fix this once and for all, or at least make it so it might not happen again in a few days? Much thanks. Keep up the good work and don't get caught. Will. So.
Maybe. Maybe. In digging in, we have heard this from some of you, right, that are having, and this isn't necessarily new, but it hasn't gone away, that some folks just have spotlight kind of go sideways every now and again. Again, my the first question that I asked and I asked this of William was, you know, are you what do you think the cause is? And the reason I ask that is because and I ask that of myself, too, when when I'm having a computer issue, it's it's the trust your gut kind
of factor here. We all know. Our computers, we use them all the time and. And whether we've stopped to think about it or not, we become aware of the things that we do that cause us, you know, pain in response. Right. Like, you know, well, I don't launch that app when I'm doing this because it's going to slow everything down. It's like, OK, well, wait, you know that. Let's have you have you thought about asking why? And is that normal? Right. And a lot of times we don't. We just learn to avoid
these things. We naturally go around them. So I always ask, OK, are there things that you think might be causing this or are there things that you avoid? And in asking that, I said, and if not, well, you've got Onyx and, you know, so you've tried erasing the spotlight library, which is what that command you read does. Right. It erases it, which then forces a rebuild. So it's being rebuilt, but something's getting repopulated in there.
That's causing it to, you know, like bork for lack of a more technical term. And so I said, well, why don't you also try deleting mail indices? Right. Which which Onyx will let you do. And because those will feed spotlight in some ways and like that, that could be a thing. And he's like, well, I don't use mail. I was like, oh, well, then maybe all the more reason to delete mails indices.
Because if you don't use it and you haven't used it in years, those mail indexes might be sitting there and like there might that might be where the problem sits. And because mail is not even running regularly, they're basically sitting in stasis. Right. And he's like, oh, my gosh, you're right, because I used to use mail years and years ago, but I haven't launched it in a long time. Like, yeah, OK, blow those indexes away and see what happens with spotlight from there.
But, you know, thinking about those kinds of things, what is feeding spotlight in in these scenarios? Because clearly something is feeding it bad juju. So, yeah.
I don't know that's that's my thought on it so makes sense yeah yeah yeah yeah and kiwi graham had a couple points in uh great discord you know this is you know check the spotlight logs uh he said see if eclectic tools help it may point to a problematic file he said he's seen spotlight just give up when it has a uh when it has a problem yes so you know third-party spotlight Spotlight indexers may be bad, too. He also says if they don't use mail but use Outlook, it's really bad with Spotlight.
Oh, interesting. That I'm not aware of. Yep. Thanks, KiwiGram. Yep, I like that. Good thought to think about. Yes, yes, for sure, for sure. I don't know which of Eclectic Light's tools would be the right one to use for Spotlight. I'm on their site right now and basically see one called spot cord. Uh, which is build vocabularies of spotlight keywords and then search key and search key light to add metadata.
So I'm not sure they have a tool for us specifically here, but maybe, maybe just their, um, their log looker tool might be, you know, might be the log log parser tool might be the other way to do it.
It so yeah yeah but console too right look at your spotlight logs there and that would that's a great idea yes well cool interesting all right uh yeah now i need to find uh greg's because that we're doing that one next i'm told yeah yeah uh greg has a really quick question how do you scroll to the first message in mail on an ipad pete uh you can't you have to swipe swipe swipe just kidding So if you're way down, you've got the mailbox open on your iPad and you're way down, many,
many messages down, rather than swipe over and over and over to get to the top, just go up and touch the little blank space above the word inbox. Or if you're in archive, whatever mailbox you're in, touch the little blank space above it, it automatically whips it to the very top message. Yep. Yeah. I was blown away the day that I learned that tip. Yeah. I, it, and it, I'm, I'm not embarrassed to say this.
Like it was, I think it was within like the last five years, maybe even the last three years that I learned that that tip. So that's a twofer. That's a question answered in a quick tip in one. That's right. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right. Uh, moving on to Perry's question. Yeah. Perry says, I have a question, another mail question in mail. My name is displayed differently in the messages list than it is in the full message view.
My preference is what's showing in the full message view, but I have no idea how it got the version that it displays in the messages list. I have correctly listed. I have it correctly listed in the mail settings for my iCloud account. How do I get the name displayed correctly in the messages list? And how do I know how it appears for recipients? I am running Sonoma 14.4.1 in the latest Apple Mail on a MacBook Air M1. Thanks, guys.
Yeah. So there are a few places from which mail will infer, ingest these names that it puts in the messages list. The first is the I don't even know if it's the first one of them is the contacts app. So go into the contacts app search not for your record but for that email address and make sure you don't have multiple records for yourself or for that email address in there again just to make sure that you know because it's going to it's going to try and relate it.
It's doing a reverse lookup is perhaps a good way to look at it, right? It's taking your email address and looking, so you want to look that way too. The next place to look, and this is where I think you're probably going to find your answer, is in mail's previous recipients list, which is in the window menu. you. If someone sent an email to you and named you as this erroneous name, then mail will sort of inherit that use of the name and email address and identify you that way.
And again, you go to window previous recipients and it's kind of a long list, but you can filter it. So again, filter it by the email address and I would remove everything here for that email address. Let mail redefine what that is, which hopefully will come from the contacts app. And there's just a little remove from list button.
So that, that should help. Although if somebody sends you an email, you know, Down the road where it's misidentified and you wind up replying to all or something like mail, mail will will potentially do this again is what I need to tell you.
As for how it appears to recipients, the first place to look for that would be mail accounts and then choose the account in question and then look at the email address field there, because that will have your name and your email address, how it's presented to how mail bakes it into the message that it's sending.
That doesn't mean that's how other people are going to see it, because if they have a previous recipient's entry on their computer where they're reading it, it's going to potentially use that instead of what you've sent it. So like there's no way to ensure that people get it the right way, but you can at least seed the right thing out there and into the world. Yeah. Also, depending on how they might have your name in their contact card. That's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy that won't stop emailing me, you know.
Right yeah exactly yeah but that's reserved for that side so you know yeah yeah you know that previous recipients thing is a good thing to know about uh people get caught by that one all the time like that's a classic you got caught because i get questions from people like why do i have this weird name for this person in my mail and it's like let me tell you about previous recipients yeah i i don't i feel and i i'm gonna say this i feel like that causes more harm than good yeah
i'm not convinced of that though because i have yet to live well you know what i have lived in a world without previous recipients because i use thunderbird and i don't get this bs anymore so yeah i think that does cause more harm than good. I would like to know the, it'd be nice to talk to the engineer or that kind of came up with that. Find out what was the, what was the rationale or thought process for it?
Well, I think maybe we can answer that question because the idea of remembering all the people to whom you've sent mail so that it can auto complete that for you when you're typing a new message, that's handy. But I think that needs to live in an isolated little thing that's only used for when I'm composing a new message.
Don't use that data for any other reason and that might be the the benefit there yeah i mean the other thing about that though that been around for forever that might have been old thinking that's just never been replaced because back in the day machines weren't quick and fast and like have all this extra processing power like it could actually just in real time these days probably go through and build that list, you know, through your email.
Yes. Like it probably doesn't need to be a separate index anywhere anymore. Right. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, right. We don't know when it's updated, what, you know, what triggers an update and you'll find six entries for the same email address in there. And it's like, okay, well you're only ever going to pick one. So why are you leaving six in here? or delete five of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
Dave, something you kind of blazed over there at the very beginning was talking about contacts and realized that if you do that reverse lookup and you have several contacts in there, you can look for duplicates. There's actually a menu item in contacts. Look for duplicates. And then you can merge them all and fix that name issue too. Great point. Great point. But I don't think, you know, in this case, it doesn't sound like that's what it was. I think it's more of the.
Of the other, not the previous recipients. Yeah. Yeah. Previous recipients there. Yeah. Yeah. And like you, Adam, I, I've like that. That's the, that's my default answer now for why is mail display this wrong? Because, because it, it's, it's problematic.
Problematic yeah yeah i've got some of my accounts on thunderbird now and some on mail i need to get completely away from mail i'm just so used to the way mail presents that it's hard for me to get out of that mode but i know once i get into thunderbird i think it's a hands-down better client it is except i got two problems with thunderbird and i i one of them is that just it doesn't feel like a mac app right right and and doesn't have apple script support so like Like that is,
that is more of an issue than it sounds like. It sounds like it's only a nerd issue. You can't drag an attachment onto the Thunderbird icon and have it create a new email because it doesn't have Apple script support. Like that's how that's done. So those kinds, it's, it's like, it's frustrating.
Right. um the other thing that i need to do is the the formatting that it wants to put me into when i start composing an email is bizarre and i wish i could just tell it to stop that and i might be able to so i like i need to look at that in the templates but i i still and i've been on thunderbird for what six eight months now um i'm very used to it i can't wait to be able to go back to mail someday so yeah so there you go yeah and then there's there's another client canary mail
have you played with that at all dave a little uh i have higher hopes for mail maven which is the thing that uh is coming from the folks who used to make all the plugins that i liked for mail from small cubed so um yeah yeah but it's not out yet so yep okay yep so is there a projected, have you talked to them um i i don't know can you tell can you say if you have i i don't know i don't i don't know you don't know say i don't i don't know okay.
Don't say none of that i don't know do we have another question on a richard's question, because because i bet you know the answer to this richard wrote in he said hi guys i have heard you talk about tail scale a few times and i'm still confused, What I believe that I understand is that Tailscale creates a VPN between your devices. And instead of routing info through a VPN servers, it uses my computer as the server.
What I don't understand is, does this protect me on a public Wi-Fi network like a restaurant, airport, hotel, et cetera? Sorry for being dense about this, but I am confused. Okay, Richard, love the show. A weekly listener for years. Richard, Richard, don't be sorry for being dense. It's, it's what I do best and we wouldn't have a show if everybody wasn't a little dense at some point in time here, you know, I mean, we'd just be three guys sitting here talking for no reason.
So when we are all dense at times, too, like it's yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all in this together. Your question, Richard, is a great question because it is confusing. And and also because the overs overly simplified answer to your question of does it protect me is best stated as no, yes and maybe.
I'm gonna i'm not gonna leave us there and don't forget sometimes yeah right like that yeah and and so i think we need to dig into what tail scale is and i i understood this but i did not know how best to present it so i actually uh employed my friend my friendly assistant chat gpt to help me. Come up with the right terms to use to describe tail scale and to think about tail scale so this What I'm about to share is something that is a collaboration between me and the AI, right?
Because first and foremost, Tailscale, the way I want to think about it for now is that Tailscale creates a mesh network of sorts. What that means is each of your devices logged into your tail net, so logged into Tailscale, running the Tailscale client, can connect directly to each other without needing to be on the same network, nor to have all your traffic routed through a central VPN server.
So it's like you're all on the same local network in terms of how you can just connect to each other, but you don't have to be.
And that's the main use case of tail scale is having this group of your devices and it can be shared in a company if you want like you can go pretty wide with this but having a group of your devices that all can just see each other as though they are local all the time no matter where any given device might be at that point no opening ports no port forwarding exactly right it's all It's all magic.
It's using WireGuard, of course. And to dig in a little deeper, all that traffic is encrypted and secure regardless of where any of your devices are because the traffic between your devices is always encrypted and protected. That means when you're on a public Wi-Fi network, yes, you are protected as long as you're talking to one of your other devices. But if you're just visiting your bank, that's not by default.
That's not going through your tail net. And so that traffic is visible by the local network that you're on. Now, that traffic to your bank is also going to be encrypted between you and your bank. But they'll be able to see that you're visiting your bank. That's as far as it can go, right? Right, like they can see the address you're doing. That's all by default. So there's no traffic anonymization that a normal VPN might bring when you're using TailScale.
You can, however, designate one or more devices on your tail net as an exit node. What that means is you can route traffic through it so long as that device is turned on. And wherever that device is, is that's where your traffic will appear to have come from. So I leave one of my disk stations here on my local network as an exit node. And I can turn that on and route through it, and it works great, sort of great.
I want to put an asterisk on that and come back to it. But that's how it works. So it is a mesh. Think of it as a network mesh, not a mesh network because it's not Wi-Fi, right? Right. But it is it is this, you know, it's this distributed land, if you will. But that starts getting really confusing. Like, what the heck does Dave mean when he says distributed land? So that's why I like this mesh idea.
Everybody's talking to each other no matter where they are, so long as they're logged into your tail net. Yeah. So, yeah. So, oh, I just want to point out a couple of things. And the way to do that is you go to your little tail scale icon up in the menu bar, assuming you put it up there.
And the pull-down is you go to exit nodes and then you can click run exit node and that's when that machine becomes an exit node yes I have one on my Mac mini in the in the basement that's always sitting in the basement and right now I have none selected but when I go out and I want to appear to be from home I go into this tail scale drop-down menu and then go to exit nodes and click on Mac mini and then I route all my traffic through there so that's That's how that,
how you do it physically, how you do it. Yeah. Um, but this is still in a word genius. I do want to share. I, I, I mentioned I was in New York last week and I wanted to watch the Bruins game, uh, from my hotel room. And so there you don't. Well, but I have channels, right? So I can stream from channels. No problem. Yeah. Uh, I did a speed test before I started any of this. I was getting whatever. It was fast. It was like 50, 60, 80 megabits down or something.
So way more than I needed for the, you know, whatever the eight megabit stream that channels wanted to send me. And yet I saw that channels was like struggling and defaulting to transcoding it down to like three megabits per second. I'm like, why is this? Why is this? And I realized it was because I was connecting to channels through my tail net, which meant it just by nature of what it did, it was using tail scale going through one of my disk stations.
I wasn't using it as an exit node, but because my channel server sits on my local network, I was connecting to it as its local IP. And so it was just like, yeah, I'll use I'll use tail scale. Like that's the path that my iPad, which is what I was watching on, knew to use to go and get to that device. It was like this is this is how I route to that, which is fine. But it was slow. And so I turned off my tail net and connected remotely to my channel server and everything worked fine.
So there's something inefficient about, and it might be the, the disc station that I was routing through the way tail scale is built for that might be inefficient or something. Right. I can't tell you what it was, but I turned it off and I was able to get, you know, full speed stream, which meant like scrubbing around through the thing happens sort of instantaneously. Because if you're trying to scrub around when it's transcoding, it sucks.
So just bear that in mind. Again, this is something almost certainly specific to my setup. I don't want to say unique because you any one of you might be running into this. But just be aware of of that speeds when you're going through tail scale as an exit node or kind of as a default router in a scenario like this, because I have mine set to allow local network traffic. So it essentially uses it as an exit node for local traffic only until I turn it on for an exit node for everything.
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a pleasure to be able to do this yeah it's awesome uh we've got a couple of cool stuff found are there are there one of those questions lingering that we might want to answer are we we kind of we got the one about how to watch tv from overseas and you already kind of answered it from how to watch from new york was just like being overseas, except different. That's fair. Here's the thing. You can't do it on your iPhone or your iPad directly.
Using one of the services that they're going to geolocate you and shut you down yes get channels get it on your uh disk station get it on a server in your basement or wherever your computer equipment is located in your house and then you can watch it from from everywhere and anywhere channels is 79 bucks a year i think right yeah it is a little nerdy to set up uh for sure.
Yeah but even i did it dave so it's you know it's true hey you know what you asked me this is totally fine uh pete winds up i i become pete's sort of first i don't want to say first line of tech support but you know i am one of the first people you will call if you can't solve a problem on your own and that's fine like we all call each other it's totally like it's great um.
You there are certain things you call me about all the time you've never called me about channels, yeah it just it it's it's nerdy but it's not impossible it's a pretty good pretty good setup yeah uh yeah the only i have had you help me with channels on how to get tv everywhere to work properly and you know maybe deal with some of that oh well some of the like the nbc stuff yeah nbc stuff got really you know but nbc got shut shut everything down yeah that's nbc's password
access yeah it's not channels yeah yeah but yeah that's true i forget that i was able to work around that with that weird docker thing if somebody wants to know i'll put a link in the show notes to channels um that's the fubo docker thing you have to have a fubo account to to do it the way i'm doing it anyway um yeah so yeah anyway yeah oh and go ahead and then well and then the other question was chris is how to get uh you know he said it auto plays when he connects on
Bluetooth and how do I get it to stop? And, and my solution was create a, uh. Shortcut oh good god everything all right there i'm not that tired why am i forgetting words right you know i don't know how to do it well you know chris's problem is that every time he connects to his car with bluetooth it uh it starts auto playing music right yeah yeah and it drives him crazy and so i i said you know come up with a with a shortcut and um you know go create the shortcut that basically says add action,
search and select pause in Apple Music. Oh. Is that doable? Have you tried that? Have you built that shortcut? Well, because I don't have that problem, no. I haven't tried it. But in looking through shortcuts, you can pause Apple Music. Okay. And if you disable ask before running, the shortcut should run automatically.
Automatically that's really interesting huh you know create a personal automation yeah so it'll start and then it'll pause yeah scroll down you know select bluetooth and choose your car's bluetooth from the list and and then add the action and say pause apple music and run it without asking should i pause that's a great i'd be curious to to to test the implement the implementation of that because that that's brilliant oh i
like that idea that's me brilliant yeah no i like that's the beauty of of what we do here is is the collaboration because like i i don't know why i would never have thought of a shortcut but i i certainly i don't know do you have a do you have any thoughts on that adam. No, but he had another question in there or mentioned that he has a VW, a 2020 VW, that when it starts, it'll start playing, but the audio is muted on the stereo.
And I actually had this over at the Mac cast, somebody, same thing, VW, and did a little research back then. And this is like, I think a known issue with CarPlay and Volkswagens.
I don't know why but it will go into like mute and you have to like unmute it when it auto plays so you could potentially miss like half of your podcast that you were listening to because, it just resumes playing and you have no idea yeah and i don't know what causes it or what does it there doesn't some people have suggested like firmware updates for your head unit and your vw like if it's if it's the stock unit yeah yeah
so like i don't know i don't know why volkswagen and said, I don't know why it's an issue, but I've had this question a couple of times and it's always a VW. Well, I wonder if the same shortcut would work because there is a trigger for when connected to CarPlay, do X. So I wonder if the solution could be when connected to CarPlay, pause the audio.
The same thing, right? Like you could have literally the same shortcut that Pete talked about, but do it for Bluetooth and for CarPlay and that way it pauses the audio and at least you're not rolling. Yeah, now that I'm saying VWs, I think also occasionally BMWs have had this issue too. Oh, interesting. But I think they're connected, right? So it's the Germans' fault. VW and BMW, they have a relationship. Yeah, we're not making that the title of the episode.
Yeah, you need a new car, that's all. You need a new car. German engineering. German engineering, yeah, exactly. So actually, Paul Conaway points out that, you know, CarPlay tries to restart the previous audio and I find that to be true too.
I'll get in if I've been listening to something on on there then overcast then when I get in the car it automatically starts playing for sure yeah so I want like I wonder if this shortcut yeah because you're right if it's doing it with music that's one thing but can you just tell it to like pause everything you know like pause overcast pause because there is a I guess you could do yeah so huh, There is a media play pause action here.
So I wonder what does this do? Plays or pauses the currently playing media. So I wonder if that would impact a third party app like Overcast. And then the only thing you might have to do in the shortcut is add a delay in because if it. Depending on when you're like your phone starts playing when it's connected to CarPlay or Bluetooth. Right. We've established that fact. So but the question is, how long after it's connected, does the phone start
playing versus how long after it's connected? Does the shortcut run? Because what you might do is start it playing with the shortcut because the shortcut doesn't have a pause action.
It has a play pause action. So it's a toggle. struggle so you might need to put a delay in your shortcut you'd have to experiment with this right so that the pause is happening after it started playing not before yeah so give it five seconds or so yeah but it would be nice to get it as tight as possible so you're not getting blared at you know because otherwise then you you'll reach for the volume knob and pause it and then suddenly it'll turn back on when your shortcut runs yeah
so i i think another thing related to this that i've read and i've not tested this or tried this myself but it's my understanding that one of the reasons this happens is because if you're like me and you're in the car and you're listening to something right yeah you get where you're going you just turn off the car which then then pauses your audio and, you know, disconnects everything, right? Yep. I've heard that if you pause the music first before you turn off the car.
The next time you get in, it will know that you deliberately stopped the music. See, because what's happening is it's the theory is what's happening is it's assuming you were listening to this next time you get in. You want to resume listening to it because you didn't stop it before you.
Left yeah resume again i don't i i've just been told that as a solution i have not personally tested it because i actually like that feature i listen to music and car play on my in my car all the time and i love it when i get back in and it just starts up where it left off the last time i was in the car yeah it does remind me of a george carlin skit uh where he talks about you know you're driving and it's you're raining and the windshield wipers are going
you got the radio on and everything's good and going you know you turn the radio up and you're listening and you're You're good to go and you park and you get back in your car and you start your car and the radio is this loud. You know, because so it would be nice. I had a BMW for a little while. I've got a Subaru now, but I had a BMW for a while and I think it was the BMW that the volume would sort of sweep up from zero to wherever it was previously.
Obviously so you had a chance to like nope stop here kind of thing or no that's too loud and and you would grab it it was it was a natural kind of reintroduction to things right and and some of them have audio volume based on your speed and how much wind noise yes i forget what that's called but uh that they do that they all implement it differently yeah that's the thing that drives you nuts i just went from ford to honda when i turned my ford off i could continue to listen to something
on carplay for several minutes if i wanted to as long as i didn't open the door when i opened the door it goes okay he's leaving turn it off you're good to go yeah yeah as soon as you turn off the honda boom done oh okay. But I'll do it differently. We have time for a couple of cool stuff's found. So let's let's do this because I'm kind of excited about this one from Uncle Jamie. And I'm scrolling there and vamping. Yeah. Where am I here? Yeah.
So he says, I was wondering what to do if a site disappears from DNS, like the domain name expires or something like that. And he says, looking into this, I found an interesting website and my browser said it couldn't be reached. So I looked up, I did like a DNS lookup for it because it's a little bit nerdy, which is good. And a domain had recently expired. The site wasn't fully backed up on archive.org. So what could I do? He says, my thought was that the DNS had just expired.
So the site was probably still running on an IP somewhere. I just didn't know what it was. And there is a site, the cool stuff found entry, called dnshistory.org that keeps a history of DNS resolutions from the past, of course.
And uh and he says looking there i found the ip address of the site of interest as of just a few days ago but of course you can't just go view the ip because it's probably a virtual host kind of thing so you have to add it to your etsy hosts file on your mac which is something that um if you don't know what you're doing there we talked about this a couple of weeks ago pete uh because Cause you had an errand entry in your slash Etsy slash host file.
But you can go put things in there and then that will override whatever your Mac is going to do to look those things up. And I will, I will try and find some instructions about like what that does, but be very aware of, of what you put in there. And you know what? If you're going to put something in your Etsy host file, Put a calendar entry for a month from that day to remind you to go look at that Etsy host file and make sure you still want those entries in there.
In fact, for nerds like me, I'm going to put a recurring calendar entry monthly to go and look at my Etsy hosts files, because as I'm saying this, I'm realizing I have no idea what I've put in there and left in there. So yeah yeah maybe that's the answer is go look at it regularly yeah right but anyway yeah dns history it's pretty cool. Yeah. Here's another cool one, Dave, that I know you're going to love. I think I know you're going to love it. All right.
Jeffrey wrote in, he says, band match is an app designed to connect musicians with each other based on their musical preferences, skills, and location. It's like matchmaking service, but for musicians. Users can create profiles highlighting their musical background, instruments they play, genres they're interested in, and their location. The app then uses this information to match users with compatible musicians nearby.
Once matched musicians can communicate with each other, collaborate on projects, schedule rehearsals, and potentially foreign bands. It's band to match dot app. Oh, I'm going to install this right away. I'm I'm no joke. I am actively looking for another band. I like, I still play with bitter pill, but the other bands that I was in sort of, they really didn't survive.
Coming out of COVID lockdowns is, is really kind of, I mean, there's been some fits and starts with the other bands that I was in, but I like they, they never really got kicked off, uh, properly. Everybody's schedules had just kind of moved on. So this is Tinder, but for musicians, you said it, you found a way to say it. Didn't you? He's had a note on his screen folks. I swear for years. How can I mention Tinder on the show? Hey i didn't say grinder you know oh you just did.
Parents i'm sorry boy yeah uh great well then what i'm which is a subway it's a grinder it's a you know so thank you lawyer jeff for that one that that actually i i really will uh i'm going to check out band match pete's comments though make what uh joe shared with us very very very Very tame. But Joe said, I'm not sure if this is for the show or not. Clearly it is. It's called Zotify. And it is an app. It's a terminal app. But it will.
We're going to use the term backup your Spotify music directly from Spotify to your Mac. There are some other tools out there that you give it your Spotify library and then it will go to like YouTube and try and find those songs, those same songs and pull them down. This actually pulls them down from Spotify. And I took a look at it. It it will do it at high speed or you can have it do it in real time. And they said to make it look more legitimate.
And that is a great introduction to the piece of advice that I want to share, which falls under the don't get caught umbrella. Before you run this, familiarize yourself with Spotify's terms of service.
And make a decision for yourself from there is probably the best place to leave that because this is a tool and there's nothing inherently wrong with a tool but it must be used for good and not for evil right and uh and you don't want to get caught so uh but but it's good to know about like it's good to know that it exists right yep so thank you joe that's that's uh that's it's It's fascinating that somebody's created that.
I mean, my guess is it acts like a Spotify client and acts like it's just playing your music. Playing your library. Yeah. Yeah. And it just so happens to be capturing it. And again, I have not reviewed Spotify's terms of service, but please do before you employ this. Absolutely. But I will say this, Dave. Do you use Spotify? I am a Spotify customer. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You go, go to a playlist and say, start playing it. And you go, oh, I want this for offline. They'll let you do offline.
So you hit that and it downloads it. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. So my guess is that's what this is doing. The difference though, is that the Spotify app only gives me access to my offline library while I continue paying them my monthly fee. Yes. It is my interpretation of glancing at this app's page that that limitation, that restriction might not exist with the files it saves for you because you can't get into your Spotify once you local cash.
And maybe you can i don't know i i haven't tried but you know no i use spotify i pay i mean i have apple music too i i pay for spotify for two reasons one because we do this show and it i like to be aware of things but really primarily uh it is what more people use that i interact with especially on the music front so like if i'm going to like fill in with a band or something thing they'll send me a spotify playlist of all their songs and then i i
i listen to that to learn the song so it's just it's easier to just have spotify it's yeah yeah well another real quick one then cool stuff found is there's two channels on sirius xm and the one is the top 1000 country and the other one's top 1000 classic rock two great channels and they just play it plays in a loop from 1000 down to one yeah it is first they go and it keeps like in it.
Keep it keeps updating yeah okay uh you know i don't yeah i haven't gone back to see if you know, 663 is the same day in day out year in year out but yeah yeah you know it goes back it's essentially four decades of classic rock and and probably even more than that from country because it seems to go back to the 50s on country but um it it's a nice background channel to have.
On if you happen to have access to huh interesting serious xm i i will say spotify you know it's it's national streaming day spotify's playlists are generally speaking if better than apple musix uh for two reasons one they they they seem to just i don't know do it better but they they allow they make it much easier for me to find playlists that other users have published and there are folks who like are playlist influencers for lack of a better term right like bands if you're
in a band and you know an original band you're putting out your own music a great way to get your music discovered by people is to appeal to and befriend some of these spot spotify playlist creators the people creating them and get them to include your songs in their playlist you'll make money from that uh wow yeah so spotify's players are good the one exception to that for me is the apple music you know quote unquote essentials
playlist so if i want to listen to songs by tom petty i know i can go fight find tom petty essentials and it'll be a a great playlist of Tom Petty tunes, right? But otherwise Spotify's playlists are better. Like if I want to listen, like, you know, you don't want to listen to the top country songs or the top whatever, or songs in a genre or whatever. Apple music's very limited, Spotify's great.
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Make sure you check out Pete's other show, So There I Was, and my other shows, Business Brain and Gig Gap, especially if you're a musician. We'll talk about Band Match on that show too. I'll dig into it and talk more about it over there. Music. Yeah. Whoa. Woo. Pete, you have your hand in the air. Oh, I did. You caught me. Okay. Well, for you, every one of you don't get caught. Music.