It's time for MacGeekGab and listener Uncle Jamie brings us our quick tip of the week with the Google app from the App Store can identify a song you hum. That's right, you hum it and it'll get it. You press the microphone button and then search a song while playing the song. But unlike Shazam, Google can recognize the tune of the song that you're humming, not just a recording.
So you You can hum a song and it'll tell you the name of the song with a fair amount of accuracy in spite of my inability to carry even a very good tune. So give it a try. More tips like this plus your questions answered today on the Mac Geek Gab number 1042 for Monday, June 17th, 2024. Music.
Greetings folks and welcome to mac geek gab we are the show where you send in tips like that that we share you send in cool stuff found that we share you send in questions that we hopefully answer at the very least we will discuss and really try to impart what we know about the The troubleshooting process, even if we can't get to the actual answer, we can all learn something about the troubleshooting process when we do that.
And in fact, that's the goal is each of us learning at least five new things every time we get together. And when I say each of us, I mean all of us as the hosts, like we're all one big family of learners here and we can help each other do that. And that's what we're going to try to do today here on June 17th. June 17th, of course, being World Tessellation Day. But we are recording this on June 13th, which is... Mac keycaps 19th anniversary. So, you know, Hey, 19, we can't dance at all.
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We'll talk more in depth about both of those in a little bit. But for now, celebrating the beginning of MacGeekGab's 20th year here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen. And greetings from Pleasanton, California. It's Pilot Pete doing the pilot thing this week. I was wondering where you were this morning, Pete. Pete, I could tell from your video that you were not at home.
Or rather, I could tell you were in a hotel, but yeah. Yes, there you go. You're back in the area where I grew up. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Northern California. Yeah. It's a beautiful sunny day, 55 degrees. And I think, was it Steinbeck or Mark Twain? So the coldest winter of my life was the summer I spent in San Francisco. I believe that was right. You know. Yeah. One of those two. One of those two. That's right. Probably Steinbeck. Yeah.
This area, it's amazingly cool in the summer. um so this means that mac geek assuming we make it through this episode and release it will have caught up to mac cast um adam so yeah yeah yeah yeah but but you already began your 20th year of podcasting back in december of course so you've just continued yeah yeah i had started yeah yeah yeah yeah well you're you're still no you haven't ended you're still here you're still casting not you're 20 if you're a mac cast yeah yeah yeah
podcasting in general you haven't stopped so yeah there you go yeah you said uh world tessellation day that made me think maybe i need to go back and reinstall like guy's power tools or something like that get my fractal on yes that's right yeah yeah oh i didn't i probably had that mathematically wrong i don't know if tessellation and fractals are the same or similar but i don't i think they are i don't Yeah, I don't. That's a great question.
I don't know the answer to that. I know tessellation is like, I always think of tessellation as tiling, but I don't know. Tessellation or tiling is the covering of a surface, often a plane, using one or more geometric shapes called tiles with no overlaps and no gaps. Yeah. So, yeah, World Tessellation Day. There you go. Yep. You know, there we are. All right. Thank you for sharing Uncle Jamie's tip to to kick us off. Adam, you want to take us to to Mark's?
Uh, sure. If I get myself ready, well, I was doing other things, but yeah, I can do that. So Mark has a tip. He says, if you open control center center on the menu bar, the icon with the white and black toggle switches, you can drag any items from control center onto the menu bar. Just click on the item such as wifi and drag it to the menu bar.
If you don't want any items on the menu hold command and drag them from the menu bar to the desktop until you see an x not sure how useful this is but i found it interesting i think it's very useful yeah huh yeah absolutely yeah i didn't know you could take things i mean i just learned that i didn't know you could take things from control center and throw them in the menu bar yeah i mean a lot of these things if i were prior to to this moment in time if i were to want to put something from the
control center in the menu bar i would have gone to system settings and like turned it on there which i think is in like the control center what do they call that now uh like control center isn't there yeah there's just a control center thing and you can control center yeah yeah you can turn it on for the menu bar or control center when you're in there right yeah exactly so yeah there's like a little drop down. So the question is, no, you can't.
I was trying to see if you could take something from the menu bar and put it in the control center. Not as easy. No, that's a great, but a good, like that worth trying if this other thing exists. Yeah. Yeah. But if you hold down the command key, you can rearrange icons in the menu bar. That's a whole nother quick. That is correct. Yeah. The command key will also, it will also let you arrange things. Yeah. Good tip. I love this stuff.
Yep yep well i've got another one well well i i think while we're talking about the menu bar we we had it slotted for later in the show but but now is a perfect time to talk about uh james.
Brought up the the fact that bartender the app for the mac that allows us to, have control more control menu bar yeah to clean it up to to tame the menu bar uh still works great it is under new owners ben surtees uh wound up uh selling bartenders i guess he said he couldn't uh support it as a solo solo developer anymore and and he has uh sold it to, a company called applause uh he says three months ago i sold bartender to applause a company with the
resources and expertise to take that app to new heights uh applause shares my vision for bartender and is committed committed to maintaining its core values while bringing in new features and improvements um the the this all came up because people figured out that it was under new management new ownership they never made an announcement about it and and there was some concerns especially on reddit where this i believe this all sort of developed that um
that it it might not be like we didn't know who these people were and so is it still safe to you should we trust these people etc etc and like it seems like they're talking now which is good um.
You know yeah but but yeah yeah transparency is always the best right i think so when when when it doesn't involve national security and you can be transparent do it yeah yeah the whole thing was a little weird and i was curious about it when i got the thing i know that the developer came out and commented um i think you said that maybe the the company themselves have commented a little bit as well.
I'm not sure if I saw that. But when this came up, I did go look to try and figure out, you know, what is this company and what do they do? And I think they're out of New York.
Okay. And it seems like they're in the business of doing exactly this sort of like buying up apps from developers, like the whole company was founded for buying up apps from developers who just don't have the time to kind of maintain them and they so they've got a team and they've got a staff but i couldn't figure out like what other apps they have i mean they don't have a lot of information out about themselves so i understand why people would be.
Concerned yeah if that makes sense um so i i don't know anything about them i don't know if they're good at what they do or bad at what they do or what happens to apps that come under their their tenure but yeah i think being cautious about it but i agree like the lack of transparency is mostly what's concerning um yeah i uh i reached out to the applause folks when we first found out about this and i haven't heard back from them it doesn't make it doesn't
seem like it seems like the only statement has come from uh from ben certes who was the original author of bartender so yep um yeah i'm not uh it remains to be seen i can see, i can see what's what's the the right way to communicate this thought i can see why people would be concerned about a company like this right i mean if they're if they're just in it for the apps right like the building up a portfolio of apps what's the what's the plan And we don't know much about them.
I don't know of any other apps that that like we all use or some of the members of our community use that are also under applause is, you know, umbrella now. So we don't have a lot of experience with them. I can see why they would.
Potentially like to just not have any friction with the user base just like nope it's steady sailing we're going to keep it going but to your point pete transparent it's people are going to find out right and it's better if you're the one that tells them your news as opposed to them figuring out your news so like yeah and was there an issue with uh data collection or something is Is that how it got?
No. No, it was, well, they updated their, I think, no, the notarization of Apple's, like through Apple's system had to change, and that's how somebody noticed it. Yeah, that has to happen. Like, you don't have an option. When you are a new developer or a new developer team, because you have your developer account, the old developer has their developer account, you have to basically transfer that.
So there's a process for that. And that means the keys change, and it means the authentication changes of the app. Yep. Yep. Yep. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this here because I know astute listeners, especially those on headphones, probably heard it. Pete, whatever your environment is, occasionally has like a low-end hum coming through your microphone. So just ride your mute a little bit more actively than you normally would. That's all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think, I wonder if it's the fridge in here or something. It sounds like that. Yeah, it's that kind of a thing. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got a mini fridge in here. Got it. Got it. Yeah, just FYI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. It's coming through inconsistently. It's coming through regularly, but inconsistently enough that at least the tune out the background noise filters that we sort of have in place by default don't catch it.
I'm sure there's one we could train to do it, but I didn't catch it before the show began. So, yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to leave my mic. Mike, off of mute, while I read the next quick tip. Brilliant. Thanks. Yeah. That way I don't have to shout out the window quite so loud for everyone to hear it. Jed wrote in. He says, I unplug everything in my office every six months for therapy. Okay. He says he talked about the difficulty of reorganizing your physical workspace.
He says, I go the other way. I unplug everything every six months or so and rewire. I find it very therapeutic and a good way to think about where everything is. And I've got to say, that's really not a bad idea. I had, the other morning, I was standing in my living room, and I'm like, do you hear that high-pitched tone? My sister's like, yeah, no, I don't hear it. I'm like, well, that's, and I went and opened the basement door, and sure enough, my power had all gone off at some point overnight.
And my, yeah, my battery backups ran until they were dead, and they were just sitting there beeping, and everything was off. I'm like, ah.
And it was difficult getting some of the things back on. so i had the opportunity to rewire all of my nas drives and mac mini and all that and now i know where everything is again i was like oh yeah i forgot i had that little drive attached to my router and yeah it's not when i saw his note come in i was like huh i always feel better after i do one of these you know mass rewirings of a given sort of workspace workstation doing it every like being proactive about it, that's not a terrible idea.
You know, I, I've often said about things like that. It's better when it happens on my schedule than when it happens on technology schedule. And because if only, because I can carve out the time to do it when I'm doing it on my schedule, as opposed to technology schedule, which is like, Oh, I didn't have an extra hour and a half to do this today. And yet here I am, You know, so, yeah, I kind of like it. I have not rewired my desk in my office.
In years and that includes migrating from my iMac to my Mac mini that's there now like it's you know I just plug it in it's like oh yeah okay like maybe the power cable changed because it's a different form factor of you know it's a different connector or something but otherwise it's like all right everything else is plugged in great let's just keep going don't have time for this today but if I make time that's not so terrible yeah I. Like that yeah I won't tell you what mine looks like
over here the spaghetti oh mess of wires even despite my best attempts to like make it clean when i first set it up so you're you're you've given me like twitches it's like now i want to go like redo all that stuff because it's just like it's been bugging me for a while but i just kind of don't look at it yep so out of sight out of mind kind of thing but now like when we moved our brought it up when we moved when we put the generator in at the house last year two years ago whatever it was and
i moved all my nas stuff and routers and all that over to a closet in the house i bought like a little wire rack like a baker's rack kind of thing and and uh put all the stuff on that and it's awesome like it was great rewire like ethernet cables that only run down the back of it and like it's great i used even wire ties and i love it um but and i did leave room in it for the things that i knew i was eventually going to put in it but didn't know what they were so
like there's power run yeah it can be fun yeah yeah it's good yeah that's what i was gonna say adam zip ties and velcro cable straps are they're cheap oh i have all that i have all that stuff i mean i have i have the split channel you know like. Wires so things are bundled together so i can use my you know standing desk and all that stuff but But somehow, despite my best efforts, there's still wires and things in all the wrong places. Yes. Yep. That's what my office looks like for sure. Yeah.
All right. Grumpy comes to us next. He says Carbon Copy Cloner has an option to back up cloud files like iCloud, OneDrive, et cetera.
There's an article on their site about it, but he says it briefly downloads the file, file backs them up and then cleans up the downloads so even the things that are on you know cloud stay on the cloud only um kind of thing or stay on the cloud mostly it pulls it down and and then yeah so that it's interesting there's a there's an article as he said and we'll link to that in the show notes at macgeekab.com but uh but yeah yeah so i thought that That was pretty good. Moving on to Chris. Thanks.
Adam? Oh, that's me. That's you. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. Sorry, I'm not on the ball today, apparently. That's okay. Chris has a quick dip. He does? Recording something we talked about previously, which I mentioned the hassle of being a developer and having to set up like test Apple Pay accounts. And the fact that I have to log out of my iCloud and then log back into the test iCloud and you go through the whole setup and turning things on and off and settings and stuff like that.
He said, so he says, in a recent episode, Adam mentioned the hassle of setting up Apple Pay for web developer purposes. He says, Adam, you could set up a secondary user account on your Mac and log into that with the developer Apple ID. Then you don't have to change a thing with the primary user account. Well, now you tell me. Yeah. This is brilliant other than one thing. And so this is perfect for, you know, on my Mac testing and stuff like that.
Unfortunately, I also do need to occasionally test on an iOS device. My solution for this has become I actually have an old iPhone that I use a separate device for. But if you don't have that, you know, as we know, and I don't know why, especially with iPad in 2024, why we still can't have multiple users on an iPad.
Like iPhone, I get it. iPhones are very personal. ipads are also personal but i i could see a case especially people who have kids you know families like if we're gonna make an ipad a computer like just like it seems like apple's trying to do yep it should have multiple user option for i know why they don't do it i know i i know one reason why they don't know why they do it yeah yeah yeah so four ipads instead of one that's You got it. It's a personal device if we tell you it is.
One piece of good news, though, is that Mac OS 15... I don't want to start these names have gotten too confusing right like whatever this new one is mac os sarsaparilla or whatever it's called um it like what is it mac os sasquatch or something i don't know yeah uh but uh like the the names are too we got sonata and sonoma and sarsaparilla and sequoia and i don't even know so like i i think it would be good for us to start just calling them by their numbers.
So Mac OS 15, which is the one that's in beta now coming out, presumably in September or sometime in the fall. That's Sahara, right? That's Sequoia or Savannah is the new one. See what I mean? Let's throw as much dirt on this pile as we can. No, you know, earlier I did ask chat GPT to come up with 10 quirky words that start with S and end with a, uh, we have Samantha. They did put Sequoia on the list. I'm just going to note. Sophia.
Spirulina. Mac OS Spirulina. That's going to be it. But Mac OS 15. We're on 14 is the current version now. I believe that's Sonoma. And then in Apple parlance. But I feel like it's gotten too confusing.
But anyway, Mac OS 15 will allow you to create a virtualized container of Mac OS, which other versions have allowed but what other versions have not allowed but mac os 15 does allow is for you to sign in to your icloud or account or a different icloud account inside the virtualized container so you could do the same kind of thing that we're talking about logging into a different account you could do that with a virtualized container and now you could have both of your accounts sort
of live on the screen at the same time one of them in like a parallels or vm where container and and the other as your you know sort of like host account so i feel like that's that's pretty good.
You know yeah that would work yep taking us to jim pete all right i'm gonna do so have you ever wanted to do electrical work in your home yes you know which breaker controlled which circuit so take a fork stick it in the outlet and oh no don't do that but here's what you do take your apple watch charger and plug that into your outlet and put your apple watch on the charger and then go down to the breaker and when you turn off the breaker for that circuit watch the charge indicator on
your iphone it'll go off after a few seconds identifying the correct breaker thanks for all you do jim and i have an additional portion of that tip because if you don't have an apple watch but you have airpods plug plug your airpods charger into that and you will also see your airpods charge indicator and control center go off really yeah i did you try it i tried it this morning with a closed airpods case or did it have to be open um no it was
closed okay it was on the charger yeah closed on the charger okay i didn't realize that was broadcasting okay great yeah because like if i if i look on my phone now it doesn't show me my airpods status but i guess if it's charging it would so yeah right yeah all All right. If it's fully charged, it'd be done. I don't know if it's fully charged and not actively charging at the moment. Oh, interesting. So wear your AirPods down and then put them on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. But like your watch is a great, like that, what a great little trick. Yeah, that's awesome. Huh. So, and then after you've tried all the circuits at your house and finally get it, you get to go around and reset the clock on your microwave, your stove, your VCR.
Are we have we we have standardized on never setting the clock on our microwave because our stove is wi-fi connected and so it sets its own clock and then the other clock that we have in our kitchen is a grandfather clock and that is purely mechanical so we you know we set that um Um, and, and, and it is truly a grandfather clock in that, uh, my grandfather built that clock clock and, uh, and now it's in my house.
So like grandfather, like in more ways than one fact, I think I even have a picture of me at like seven years old or something standing inside the unfinished clock.
Oh, fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got to find that somewhere. Uh. All right taking us to john yeah please yeah he has a he has a cool tip for something that could be annoying if you were using a feature he says i use mission control space is constantly both at home and at work i like the idea of having an auto switch when i hit an edge so that's when you hit the edge and it activates but it was happening too fast and i would trigger it accidentally all
the time i have that problem with hot corners sometimes but he says i found a quick terminal command that will hold the delay before it triggers space switch to two seconds my choice but you can choose whatever so we'll have the terminal command i'm assuming in the show notes i won't read the whole thing out but it's one of the you know default right commands uh where you can change settings of certain things and this one uh changes how the edge
delay works in uh spaces So that's pretty cool. That's really cool. Oh, I could now, I've never had that part of this turned on for exactly the reason he articulates. Huh? I don't know why they wouldn't expose that in the settings. Like it baffles me sometimes. Like how hard would it be in that setting to have edge delay in a input box? Dude. Yeah. It's not hard. To answer the rhetorical question, it's not difficult. It's that Apple doesn't want it to be confusing for people.
But they let us adjust the double-click speed with a slider. You could put a slider in and make it really kind of nice. That train has sailed. It's all confusing. Can you delay hot corners? I don't remember if you can or not. Yeah, that would be a good macOS delay hot corners. But you know, it's just, back to that other conversation, I would love to be on a fly and a wall because you have to imagine, I mean, these conversations come up, right? Of course.
Hey, this feature has all these settings, which ones are we going to expose? There is a meeting or some sort of, you know, Slack conversation that happens around this where like the team decides, okay, these are the things we let people change. And these are the things we're going to just Just tell them this is the values, right? Right. It'd be just interesting to hear those conversations. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. These debates happen for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm looking to see if there is a hot corner delay. There isn't. But the workaround, or I can't find one. I don't want to definitively say there isn't. There might be one. And if there is one, feedback at macgeekgab.com, please, because we would love to know about it. But the workaround. What's that, Pete? Where? Feedback at macgeekgab.com? I believe he said feedback at macgeekgab.com, Pete.
Okay. That's right. Just checking. But the workaround is to add modifier keys to your hot corners, which you can do when you're setting your hot corners. You just hold down the modifier key when you're doing that. And that way your hot corner will only activate, set the ones without modifier keys to not do anything and make it so you have to hold down, you know, command control option, whatever you want.
That's a good tip. I actually need to turn that on because I have a hot corner for putting my Mac to sleep.
And I constantly do that on a Zoom call at work. it's like wait a minute the zoom call's still going i can't see anything and i'm trying to log back in you know and luckily i have you know touch id so it's not too bad but yeah yeah yeah huh all right all right cool cool uh all right well there's lots of uh you know lots of things oh this uh-uh i'm not happy something i did did you hear before the bell sound triggered there was a little blip and I don't like that
because it means I messed something up with the way Farago works with my audio and I need to relearn how I, how to fix that. Now there's an issue that I installed the latest loop back and that threw all kinds of things for a loop. It's, it works fine for a lot of people. I see what you did there. Well, it wasn't intentional.
It works fine for a lot of people, but for whatever reason with my setup, the new, they move loopback from using ace as the audio engine to whatever the new hotness is that they built and while it works the new hotness works fine in audio hijack it doesn't work fine for me with loopback and so they're working on that for us um but uh yeah somehow i somehow i broke it i gotta look at my notes anyway it's that's just me being obsessive about audio quality which is part of why many of you
still i think still listen after you know 19 plus years now of this because we care about making it sound good for you speaking of which we figured out the problem that was happening for adam in the keynote rap show so i think we've we've solved that too we were asking adam's computer to do more than we needed to yep yep all good all good Good. Yeah. We're some wood to knock here. Thank you for, thank you for bearing with us
when we have those, those issues where we're as unhappy about them as you are. So anyway, uh. Moving along, this would have been, if I were smart, I would have queued this up right after Grumpy's thing because we're talking about iCloud. But Adam, you want to take us to JMM? Yeah, JMM has a PSA for us. He says, Dear fellow geeks, I just learned that I got caught with iCloud Drive. A text file, JSON file that I saved in my iCloud Drive shortcuts folder was overwritten by mistake.
And when I tried to restore it, I learned that the file is not listed with a restore option at all. I assume it's because it wasn't deleted, but overwritten instead. Also confirmed by Apple support. This behavior is different from other services like OneDrive, which keeps multiple versions despite being overwritten. Please learn from me and don't get caught. Wow. Nice. So the file wasn't actually deleted.
He just changed something or put a file with the same name i'm assuming and it just overwrote it yeah he he overwrote it you know but like you said yeah for one of those those reasons but it there was no um. Versioning on that uh because i would assume it's maybe if it's only living in icloud like on my mac right because this goes to that tip earlier about backups because i was going to mention that the way I get my iCloud files backed up is I have my Mac set to not optimize my iCloud drive.
So every file on iCloud is synced to my Mac. So when my normal backups run, those files are backed up, which also means they're included in Time Machine and Time Machine would have that version history.
I'm guessing if your file only lives in iCloud and has been deleted locally time machine's not going to have any history on that file i would imagine right and if but if you deleted if he if you or or or he had deleted the file it would be in the icloud deleted files thing for some period of time 30 days unless you've changed that setting right that's a setting you can adjust right i never touch it so but overwritten files changed files There is no versioning in iCloud
Drive. In iCloud, that's right. So if you make a change to it, then it's not treated as something that needs to be kept in deleted files because it hasn't been deleted. So that is a good distinction to make because like Dropbox, OneDrive, Synology Drive, they all keep versions, older versions of files to safeguard against exactly this. And iCloud Drive simply does not. According to JMM's experience here. So, yeah. No, that's true.
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All right. We'll do some questions now. This first one, though, I think becomes more of a hidden quick tip than a question because I'm not sure I know the answer or have an answer. But Don writes and says, I have been using Safari profiles for a while now, and it's great, he says, that you can designate different domains to open in the desired profile. However, I have yet to figure out how to edit this list.
And here comes the quick tip that I didn't know about. So you go into Safari, go to settings, websites, general open links with profile. This lets you edit the current open websites. But sometimes I want to add a link that I get in an email to a specific profile.
Most often these links. So let me let me stop for a second and explain what this does, because it wasn't clear to me until i went into it and then we'll then we'll get on with this question so this settings websites uh open links in with profile which is sort of down the list uh it shows you every website that is open and you can say with those you can use those to configure it and say all right look any links to this website. So let's say I have Mac geek gab open, right?
I can say, open this in the most recent profile. So it'll just open in whatever profile I have open, but I could set it, open this in my Mac geek gab profile. And then every time I click on a Mac geek gab link, it would open a new window or an existing window with the Mac geek gab profile, not like my main or a different profile, and then open the link there. So that's that to me, that's the quick Quick tip. I had no idea that this was even a thing. And I love it.
His problem is the only things it shows you in that list are currently open websites. And here's where this becomes an issue. He says, sometimes I want to add a link that I get in an email to open in a specific profile. Most often these links are in an email that do not start with the URL of the site that it's going to direct to.
A lot of times he uses the New York Times email as a as an example, but most email links want to be able to track you to know that when you clicked it, you click that link and then they'll redirect you. And in fact, I think our MailChimp like show notes would do this to write MailChimp. The link goes to MailChimp first and then to, you know, wherever it goes.
And so the problem is you would never have a web window open or a tab open with that link or with that URL because it redirects so quickly from wherever it goes, like MailChimp to NewYorkTimes.com. And therefore, he can't set it to open in a specific profile. And he's wondering if we know how to do that. And I don't think there's a way other than, I guess you could, you could look at the email, right? Let's, I mean, let's think about this, right?
You could look at the email, the source of the email, find or copy the link from the email. And then instead of just pasting the whole link in only paste in the, like the very beginning of it. So if it's, if it's say it's, you know, redirect up mailchimp.com slash, and then some big long serial number or something that, you know, applies to the link, take the serial number off. And maybe if you just go to redirect.mailchimp.com and I don't even know that
that's a real domain. So like, but I'm just making it up. Like if you were to put that in your browser, it might just stick. It would probably give you like, there's an error. I don't know what you want me to do, but that's fine. Cause while it's up, then you could go into this setting in Safari and add it to the list. That's I don't know. Right. Like I, other than that, I don't know, but, um, it's cool to learn about the feature. I don't know. Do you have any thoughts on, on that Pete or Adam?
No, that's a, that's a stumper. Yeah. Cause I get what you're saying. Like these are all over the place, right? Yeah. Tracking links and all that fun stuff. Right. Correct. So you try to try to strip out any tracking that's in there and go, yeah, I, I have noticed, I have noticed, you know, I, I've been using Thunderbird as my email client.
And when I go to click on a link in Thunderbird that has that, you know, redirection in it, it will pop up a little dialogue and ask me, do you want to go to the actual link that's here? Or do you want to go to the end result of this link? Like it'll say, do you want to go to newyorktimes.com? And so I can click NewYorkTimes.com and then that would actually work for in Don's example.
So, yeah, I think I used to have something like that, too, where the way it worked was there was an app or something called. This was a while ago that would do exactly that. It would recognize, you know, the short links and auto expand those. And it was also, I think, take care of some of these redirect links for like known. Yeah. Like endpoints. And so you would set that as your default browser, right?
Yes. And everything would pipe to that first and then it would do its magic and then push to, you know, Safari or your actual browser.
Browser so it would sort of act as an as a proxy almost for like every link that you would click on no matter where you clicked on that link so it could be in your email it could be in your but i don't remember the app or the thing but i remember playing with one of those tools once you know i wonder if just using one of those tools would be enough like like i use velia velgia whatever it is um to to to pick to make basically so that if i click on
a zoom link it just opens the zoom app instead of going through the bonus page in safari or google meet links i find work way better in edge or chrome than they do in safari so i just have it open meet links in edge for me uh but i wonder if it would by nature of that sort of pass-through process i wonder if it would fully realize the redirection on the link and then by the time safari gets it it would have new york times as opposed
to yeah ah all right well i'll put value in the or belgium i don't I don't know how to say it in the show notes and, and maybe. But if not something like that, or if somebody knows of whatever the name of the thing that you can't remember Adam is that, that would even be better. Yeah. Yeah. There's an open in is in set up. It doesn't seem that might've been it actually. Okay. You might've just, I think that is it. Maybe open in a covers browsers, email clients.
Ah yeah yeah yeah okay so this might this might uh that might be your answer open in yep all right so there you go yeah there's more way to more than one way to skin schrodinger's cat i like this that's good use occam's razor to start.
Very well played, i like it all right uh pete you want to uh you want to move us on here i i shall do so at this time because rick in atlanta writes in it says good morning dave, hi adam and pilot pete not so much i guess just kidding good morning dave love the podcast never miss it i have what should be an easy question uh oh yeah it never that's never a good start yeah all right this actually this actually may be he says if i set up time machine does my backup disk have
to be dedicated is it a clean disk or can i use that disk that has other data already on it thanks rick in atlanta yeah and the answer to that is yes sort of.
And the reason for that is you know typically when you set up drive for time machine time machine does its thing and says you know you plug in it in or you select it from time machine it says okay i'm going to make this time machine volume and then it does its time machine thing and it formats that whole volume for how it wants to be and now you have a time machine disk so So yes, in that context, but, you know, it's a disk, so you could go into a utility like disk utility ahead of time, right?
And create different volumes within that disk and use one of those volumes for time machine and then have the other volume available for whatever else. So yeah, I mean, you just have to like make the system think you've got multiple volumes, you know, a partition or whatever you want to do, set up multiple volumes.
And that should work i do not recommend that personally because in doing that right if something goes wrong with that disc both things die right it's it's not there's no redundancy to it there's like there's very little advantage in in my opinion like discs especially you know spinning drives but even more and more and more so if you care about speed of time machine which which I'm not hugely worried about. But SSDs, they're cheap enough.
Like I would just dedicate a disk to Time Machine and have what I need there. And then if you need other storage, get a different system, a different disk. You know, you probably want better performance and you can just get a cheap slow drive for your backups. Like, I don't know, that's always been my opinion.
Yeah. Lots of storage, low cost. like it's just there to back things up in the background most of the time like you're not you know recovery might take a little bit longer if you don't have an SSD but again if you want a splurge on an SSD fine but I just I just think time machine should just be a dedicated drive personally, yeah yeah I don't. I would agree with you. My pause is I'm thinking about my clones, which are less and less clones now in that they won't boot a machine.
But my clones, I've always put on a second volume on a big Mondo data drive that I have, right? Right. Like I every one of my desktop Macs has its internal drive and some big Mondo data drive. And the big Mondo data drive stores a bunch of data and then also has the daily carbon copy cloner backup now because it's not so much a clone of, you know, my my system volume. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but for Time Machine, yeah, I'm with you.
Bigger drive, you got more history. You know, like if you want a huge drive or like my general rule of thumb, because I don't care about a ton of history, is I generally do 2x whatever my internal drive is for my Time Machine drive. And that's been sort of how I've always done it, right? Because it remembers differences anyway, so it doesn't fill up super fast. But at least you have history. I can usually go back a year or two with no problem
on most files with that rule of thumb that I've been using for years. Makes sense. Makes sense. Any thoughts on that, Pete, before we move on? No, I could totally agree. Get to, you know. Yeah.
Division don't let don't let time machine take over it'll take over on you it will take over right it is well you can set it oh on network volumes you can you can limit it now but yeah yeah right yep uh adam we have another question for you deborah wrote in and says uh i wrote in a couple years ago to ask about email archiving and i'm still wondering about it after my first message though dave you went and set up your own imap server yeah i did uh she says that
that's not really an option for me adam has said a couple of times that he has used uh or.
That he used to use mail steward my question now is if adam you are no longer using mail steward what are you using yeah that's a great question and the answer is nothing really i'm using i'm using the cloud i i you know i have all my email and imap uh i mostly use for my imap uh google whatever they're calling it now for domains or something yeah right yeah yeah used to be google workspace i like it's gone through a million names you know and back when i got my first one
it was free so like that was a no-brainer so um you know i you know and i'm just relying on google to make sure that they you know keep all my email knock on wood it's never been an issue um the other thing was i I realized that I am okay with the ephemeral nature of most email. And I don't have anything that I've saved in any of my emails that's so valuable to me that I would be devastated if it was gone forever. I think I have some family emails. And I use folders, obviously.
So I set up IMAP folders and I organize everything. Thing and so like for example great one is i have a trips folder that has every trip you know that i that i set up in it so i have one for every like mac stock but you know like if if my mac stock uh.
Hotel reservation from 20 you know whatever went away like i don't think i'd be crying about it's there uh but like yeah so anything super critical i guess you know if i had to i might open up uh mail because i i use uh spark most of the time as my mail client uh i could go into mail and move things over to my on my mac yeah you know i could create an on my mac folder if i really wanted to archive something locally,
I mean, that's pretty easy to do. And if you're a mail user, that that's a good option. You could just, you know, make sure that you save critical or move critical emails to those on my Mac folders, and then it would get backed up with your normal, normal Mac backup. But yeah, I just haven't worried about it too much.
Anything that's recently downloaded in theory would be, you know, a copy would be in my, you know, mail mailbox folder and would have I've gotten backed up by my normal backup, but obviously that's transient, right? Stuff flows through that and goes away. New stuff comes in. Do you pay now for storage on Google Workspace or whatever that is? No, you still have a free account. Yeah, you have to, right? I mean, I just have the whatever user account.
So whatever default storage they give you for the five bucks a month or per user whenever they're charging these things. I think it's like 30 gigs or something. Yeah, okay, got it. Yeah. I've never run into storage problem. I'm pretty good about keeping my email clean. Like again, I use tools. I don't, you know, I make sure I delete all my spam. I'm constantly emptying spam folders. I'm constantly deleting, um, you know, like newsletter.
Like I don't keep that stuff. Like I don't let it archive that stuff. I, I delete, literally delete those and empty my deleted mailbox frequently. I think I have it automated is to clean itself. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. Again, I don't, I don't, I don't worry about email. It's, but again, if you do, if like your emails are really important to you, this is a great question. And that's when I would recommend something like mail steward or, you know, using the, on my Mac folders.
Unfortunately, I don't think that works for iOS devices though. So if your primary device is a, an iPad, like my mom, I don't know what you would do for email if you wanted to actually back it up, I guess save it out to PDFs and files. Yeah. What about you, Pete? What do you do? I'm much like Adam in that, although I don't think I'm as good about deleting and getting rid of, I have a lot of old email that I just don't need. But I don't worry about it too much. If it goes, it goes.
There's very few things. The few things that I do need, I do pull off and save as a document somewhere, that sort of thing. But that's that's it. I'm really lax about email archiving. Yeah. Attachments are, attachments are usually, usually the thing I want to save, right? Somebody sends me a photo or somebody sends me an actual document. So documents would go into files. Photos usually go to into photos. Like, so if a family member sent me a photo and I wanted to save it via email,
it would go someplace else. Right. And if I need the text of the email, then I will, you know, print and save as PDF. Wow. Yeah. You, you mean not same. I, I have not. No, you'd have every email ever sent or received. Well, I not quite. I mean, I have not embraced the ephemeral nature of email for me, but I do delete my spam. I delete I go through my newsletters and delete those like read, read and or delete. Right. You know, but pretty much everything else goes into my archive folder.
And I don't I have not chosen to carve out the time that it would take to be intentional about that archiving process. It's like, is it is it spam? Is it a newsletter? If the answer is yes to either of those, I delete it when I'm done with it. Otherwise, it gets saved. And that's that. And even press releases I have saved. And that like that's the thing that most frequently is valuable from the past.
Finding a press release. And it's not because I need to know, like, what was the version number of, you know, this app whenever they added this feature? No, it's contacts because so much, you know, I've always said that my part of my success in in business in general is relationships and just keeping in touch with people and, you know, all of those things when appropriate, you know. And whenever we mention something on the show, I like to alert the people that we've talked about it.
Or if we were going to mention something new or something we've never mentioned before, but it's not new. Having that archive of press releases is super valuable because I can go back and be like, oh, yeah, OK, well, I've been in touch with this person and this person. OK, great. I can reach out to them. And it's a whole lot easier than having to go through the front door of just like email info at and hope that you'll never hear from
someone, you know, those kinds of things. So I find there's other things that, of course, are valuable in my archive, too. But it's the press releases that most frequently are the things of value, which is why I do what I do. Mark M. in Discord recommends Mail Archiver from Moth Software as an archive utility.
And he says, I moved my IMAP archive to Mbox using Mail Archiver X. X i guess it's mail archiver now there's no maybe there's no more x but anyway same thing he says the latest beta now allows the ubiquitous mbox so uh so we'll put a link to that in the in the show too yeah yeah yeah i don't mean i've got cool mark in discord said he's got email back to 1995 i've got some in my mailbox goes back as early as april of 2010 which isn't it's about three years after i came over to mac yeah but that
you know that's as long i've had that domain since 1995 or 96 but uh so there's stuff that's there but i'm like i say i don't care if it's gone it's gone yep yeah i mean i have email in my imap for like a domain that i've had since the early 90s or whatever like with the first domain i ever registered and i'm sure there's email in there area in IMAP that goes way back into the 90s. But I just honestly don't worry about it. I've never looked at those emails since I got them in the 90s.
I've never, ever gone back to them. So if they went away tomorrow, why would it matter? Yeah, you're not wrong. It's it. What is interesting to me is how often this subject comes up, like even in the six months or so since you I think almost six months exactly since you joined the show full time, Adam. Um, we've had this conversation three times now, maybe four times. Like that's a lot for us to revisit a topic. So, and it's all at your urging folks, right?
Like you're the ones that send this in and we don't answer every question that comes in on the show, of course, but usually, you know, this is, this one winds up floating to the top. So it's interesting. Yeah. You know where this might matter, I think to a lot of people is, you know, we all now build such a large digital history. Yes. And it's probably more important to my kids than it is to me.
Like they might want that information someday, right? There could be information, buried in the stuff that I did. Like I think about, you know, all of the Mac cast audio files that I have, I have all the, every original like recording unedited, like those are all archived and saved, you know, and I have them backed up in multiple places and stuff like that. Not so much for my email. And again, I don't ever go back to those things either, but I've deemed them important enough to save.
I don't know why email is different for me. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. But, but I think that's, I think you're spot on there that that's why this comes up because it is a, if we choose for it to be, it is a part of our digital history. And again, for some of us, you know, different pieces of that are important for different reasons. So yeah, makes sense. Yep. You want to take us to prof Josh for our, our, our next question here. I can do that. Great. There you go.
Profjoss says, how do I stop maps from offering me directions on where it thinks I want to go? How do I, so he says today, my kid's soccer is two is in two hours and it gives me directions for it on my way out to out of the gym. Not useful. Also my wife's work hours say are say 12 to 4 PM and it is in our shared calendar. If I get in my car to go anywhere within that timeframe, it gives me directions to her office. Is there a way to turn off this feature altogether? I don't want it.
Edit. When I say giving directions, I mean that there's a map notification pop-up that I get I would like to eliminate. So I know exactly what he's talking about. And that's a simple answer, but I wish I could say, I got it. But Ben in Discord helped put that answer up there. So you go into settings, SLADY in search, maps, and suggestion notifications, and you can turn those off. So, yeah, they're sometimes annoying. I like them sometimes. Then I'm kind of like, oh, who's watching me?
How do you know I want to go there? But more often than not, I agree that those are kind of useless. Well, Apple is watching you, and you know where that is, too. Like, I thought I'd bring this up. Uh, so if you go into, I think it's security privacy and your location data, it's like buried way down in there, but, uh, you can see the history of like all the places it knows that you frequent, right.
And that's where that data is coming from. So by having GPS on your iPhone and stuff like that, this came up the other day, we were driving in the car, my wife and I, it was Saturday. And normally on Saturday, we have this running thing where we meet a friend and we go have have some beers and, uh, just hang out on Saturday afternoon and enjoy, you know, our downtown.
And, uh, we were not doing that this one day and we're driving in town and she's like, why is it, Why does MAPS say we're going, giving us like the estimated time to get to that place? And I was like, oh, well, this is why. Because normally at this time, that's where we would be. And so it thinks we want to go there now. We have the same thing.
MAPS recommends when we leave the house at the right times of the right days, it either suggests that we should go to the local Chinese food place or that we should go to Tideline public house which is this new like tap room food truck kind of thing i have never once asked it for directions to either of those places by the way like it just knows that i go there frequently enough that it offers to get me directions to those but i know how to get to
these places from my house like they there's never been a time when i've asked right around the corner one is literally walking distance correct yeah right yeah exactly so and it's the tap room that's walking distance which is the better of the two uh so yeah and i well but i wonder like with ios 18 and the new apple intelligence frameworks and stuff a will we see even more of this right because that's essentially what this is and b could i tell
it hey s lady don't give me directions to Tideline Public House anymore. Like, don't offer me that as a suggestion. Like, I want other suggestions. I don't want to turn them all off. But you don't need to turn that on because when I have somebody in the car, I don't need them to, like, think that I'm there all the time, even though...
May or may not be there all the time yeah yeah yeah the other interesting thing about that and it's in the i think it's in the security and privacy settings and i because i wound up turning mine off it's that whole trusted location thing and if you change your password and you have to wait an hour and all my home has never ever ever come up in trusted locations i wound up having to wait an hour after doing some security stuff i find i just went in and turned that off it's the whole,
what is it called? The lost or stolen device. Oh yeah. You know what I'm talking about? I do. Yes. Yeah. And my home has never come up as a trusted location, even though at that point in time, I'd been home for several weeks. It should have known that's where I'm spending the vast majority of my time.
Yeah. So that setting just FYI, if you go into security privacy, this is on the max security and privacy location services, and then you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom and you'll see system services, click on details. And then what you'll see is significant locations and you can click on details there. And that's where it'll show you a summary of like records and locations. Although I'm noticing now they're not all there on my Mac. Maybe this is more useful on your iOS device.
I don't know if it's device specific, but anyway, there'll be data in there sometimes. Mine shows that there's 94 records between April 20th and june 9th um but it's only showing me one recent record i don't know how you view the full i don't know that we get to view the full thing anymore yeah.
Yeah so you could also i mean if you don't want that at all i guess another thing you could do is you could turn off significant locations and i think that's what drives this data yes so you could turn that off in your security privacy i don't know if it's used other places other than maps yeah so you may just be careful with that because you may be disabling other features that you do want yeah exactly that's probably probably better to do what what was already recommended exactly
yep i bet law enforcement could find it if they need it just saying oh yeah i i maybe maybe right like yeah it's in there clearly but yeah if there's no ux to get it out i mean you could take a backup of the phone and and you know you like essentially take a forensics dive through that backups data maybe it's there in an unencrypted way once you've unencrypted the backup i don't know yeah i i need to go review that document that apple has but i'm pretty sure
that stuff is stored locally and on the secure enclave on your devices and max not in the backup yeah i doubt it or if it is again we'd have to double check but apple has a list of all the places but i'm pretty sure location data they protect pretty well from what i remember i think you're right it's been a while since i've researched that no i seem to remember that That from like when we discussed it for a TMO article where it was like, yeah, no.
This stuff is not, not, it doesn't leave the device. Yeah. Yeah. They've locked down almost everything. I think the only exception is like you do have that option where you can let Apple have the keys to certain data, like stored in iCloud so that if something happens to you or you completely forget your logins or whatever, Apple support can help you do that.
Um where they save your secret key but i mean you can choose to not do that and then which i don't like i don't let them have that but yep you can yep all right should we jump to uh cool stuff found as we as we wrap things up here and and begin our 20th year you want to take us to adrian i can do that so adrian is reminding us about something it sounds like i haven't been been around this long, but Adrian has been providing a link to a Google document every time a new version of iOS comes out.
Looks like since iOS 15 and says, hey, I hope you're all well. It's time for my annual email. Another year, another beta, another app compatibility spreadsheet. And there's a link to a Google doc. Is this something Adrian puts together or is this I get the feeling that Adrian coordinates this, but regardless, it is actively managed and coordinated. It is crowdsourced data. Got it. So it's a crowdsourced Google doc that we'll have a link to that you can go see what's compatible.
And I think hopefully most things are, but I can't imagine too much has changed, but it'll tell you what apps are going to be compatible with iOS 18 beta. I scrolled through it and it's interesting. There are multiple entries for some apps where, you know, someone will say this doesn't work. And another person will say, well, it worked for me. And you can see what might be different about their two, you know, setups or devices or any of that.
That um but for the most part it's you know all the apps just work the the one that jumped out at me as i scrolled through this was the new york times app uh does not launch for for all the people that have submitted to this so that that yeah that was interesting to me but but it happens and there was something else that complained i think it was like a bank app that complained your phone must be jailbroken or or you know something like that it's like
well no but it's just a version you've never seen before so that makes sense but um but you know some of them are like it partially works and and you know that's an interesting thing to know as well so yeah is this where we give the psa about installing ios betas like sure a few days after worldwide developer conference like Like, I would not advise doing it unless you really know what you're doing and you care about your,
you know, device functionality and stuff like that. I mean, these are betas for a reason. So, you know, don't put it on a device that you rely on day in and day out. I would not advise doing that, at least not with early betas. Like, wait for maybe some of the later public betas closer to launch, you know, when things get more stable. Yes. So I, I, most people that I know that are running the betas are, uh.
Saying that they are some of the most stable first betas they've ever seen oh you know but take that with you know that that and about eight dollars will get you a cup of coffee um but you might want to bring that eight dollars in cash just in case your phone running the developer beta can't do apple pay at starbucks so uh right exactly right you know so um well Well, and then I get this, we get, I've gotten, I'm sure you have too, and we will get the support emails where someone says,
you know, my iPhone battery is like gone to crap and everything is, you know, running hot and everything's really weird and I don't know what's going on. And then you email them back and I'm like, are you running the beta? Oh yeah, I installed the beta. Yeah. Well, I can't help you. Right now there's only developer betas out, right? There's the public betas have yet to be released, but that will happen soon within the next week or two.
I would I would presume so the one thing to note because as we were watching the keynote and the state of the union I still haven't watched Gruber's talk show which I want to because he had Federighi on again and that's always a good and I treat that as you know keynote part three because there's always something informative there but as of the time we've recorded this I just haven't I don't even know if it's up on his site yet but probably is um it is not yet
to my knowledge so i can't watch it because i wasn't out there but uh in any event uh as i was watching it and they were talking about the apple intelligence stuff.
I was tempted it's like oh this is actually something i would want to test out and get some experience with that stuff's not in the stuff the parts of that that we would want to test as end users is not available in the betas yet they're saying that's coming in the fall my guess is it will come in a late stage beta but it's also possible it will come after they are released so that little bit of temptation it is is not yet a carrot hanging out there for us so right bear that in mind
as you make your decisions as to whether you're going to install these betas and also remember when making that decision that apple intelligence is only iphone 15 pro right and m1 max and ipads and later so if you don't have either of those things and you're looking to do it to get apple intelligence you don't need to bother yeah it's not magic that's true yep really good point i and And I'm wondering, I wonder why it's the 15 Pro and not the 14.
Like, I have all kinds of questions about that. But anyway, KiwiGram in the Discord. Recommended a utility called mints. There were there was a discussion about can I look at my spotlight indexing logs on the Mac and trying to troubleshoot some things. And he recommended Mintz, which is, well, very nebulously defined as a multifunction utility.
But it is the more expanded definition of it is or description of it is a growing collection of tools which provide tailor made log extracts for investigating problems and exploring Mac OS. Collate various information about a Mac, which can be difficult to find elsewhere, perform a set of tests on Spotlight, and provide specialist tools for certain types of data. Of course, there's more reading that would take some of the nebulousness out of that as well.
But it's an interesting little thing, and I think looking at the screen of all the things, the logs that you can bring up, like iCloud, the Time Machine log, the TCC log, which is the um i forget what tcc stands for but it refers to the privacy uh thing on your mac where you're turning like can this app have access to accessibility can this app have full disk access like that whole tcc thing you can see the logs for just that boot logs there's a whole section on spotlight so if you
are looking to troubleshoot things on your mac and you're not sure where to a look, mince might be a good utility to start with. And I kind of wanted to, I wanted to discuss it a, so we all knew about it and be selfishly so that hopefully I remember it now that I've talked about it, uh, in the future when I need to, to do this kind of thing. So mince. Have you ever, have you ever, either of you ever used it or I have not. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
No, I mean, I typically just fire up console. I don't know if there's different, it looks like it has a different UI, but like console, has the sidebar where you can get crash reports, spin reports, log reports, and it has all those logs listed out. I mean, it might not be as clear as what they are, but well, I think console doesn't, there aren't separate logs for these things anymore.
More so i think this is like a a an intelligent set of filters that howard has built for the main system you know for everything that's sort of dumped into system.log or whatever so that looks really cool yeah it's like a lot of a lot of effort went into that yeah well that's that's howard oakley yep yeah in fact he explains what it's exactly what it is he explains the the what the filters are on the page that he's using. So, yep. Yep. There you go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah.
Those are all the, so he kind of pulls them all together. That's nice. Yeah, it is. Yeah. He's, he's built these filters that have helped him and now he shares them sort of coalesced into an app. So yeah, pretty cool. You got one last one for us, Pete? I do. This comes from Randy, and he says, pass to you wallet app, iOS app. So it's pass the number to the letter U, wallet. It makes you add and manage all of your cards, tickets, passes, et cetera, in Apple Wallet easily.
Easily uh you can add and store cards membership cards rewards cards coupons stamp cards movie tickets boarding passes business cards identity cards gift cards event tickets Etc Etc and solve it and uh yeah it has a store of templates that uses various stores of loyalty cards and you can just enter your own uh barcode or number or QR code even you can put those in there so that looks like it makes the wallet much more granular control gives you more granular
control over it that's cool so this is going to let you put things into your wallet that the vendor does not where the vendor does not necessarily give you the option yeah yeah you got it because there's been times that i would love to have a barcode in there that uh yeah and and it looks like i I was reading through the description of it. It gives you all the granularity of putting geolocations on things.
So for instance, like, I don't know if you use, I think you use pre-flight parking in Boston day occasionally. Yeah, so when I get near there, it tends to pop up, hey, you're near pre-flight parking. And so I think you can geofence it as well, so that these things will pop up when you go into.
Chipotle or staples or something like that it's hey you're near you know do you need this card or huh i believe that that's what it's saying it can do yeah basically you can i mean there's, there's you can create a pass with code right json code and a bunch of things i forget there there's a way to put them together right that they and you can load them onto your device, my understanding and i've used this app before is basically this is just a user interface for all of that
and it does all that work for you without having to like code anything so lets you take an image of your barcode or your qr code and then like you said it has provides different templates for different looks you can put in the additional information that goes on the back like the address of where the thing is which would then automatically activate the geolocation stuff for you so it's yeah i've used this before it's a nice little app and it's a great for exactly what that
is is like anything that you have a barcode or a qr code or something for where they don't actually let you create a pass with their app or through their website you can create your own pass.
That's really handy because a lot of times i'll get an email with like here's your coupon for, tideline public house because you're such a frequent customer or something and it's like wait where is that stupid thing in my email like i you know but i could create it in the moment and then i know it's just in my wallet and i'm good to go so yeah yep yep interesting love it cool well i think that's gonna i think that's gonna do it for us how about i unmute my mic there too i was i was talking oh
i'm sorry just ask me i heard myself um so the app is free and it says it has some in-app purchases okay uh available uh but the other thing i found really interesting it talks about app privacy down at the bottom it says data used to track you the following data may use to track you across apps and websites owned by other companies browsing history data not linked to you the following data may be collected but it's not linked to
your identity browsing history okay okay well so it tracks your browsing history but it doesn't link it to your user account or at least not to you in the past to you app if If you're visiting another company, then sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cool. I hear music. Yeah, the music's playing, Pete. We started the music while you were muted, but I think you could hear us. I could hear you just fine. I could hear me just fine. Yeah. Yeah. The mix was perfect for you. I'm not loud enough. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, that's... That's interesting, because locally here, if I were to mute myself on my little mixer setup, I would not hear me, and I would know immediately that I was muted. Right. But when you mute just the input to StreamYard, you have no idea that it's muted, unless it tells you, which it clearly doesn't.
Right, because I'm getting the side tone in my headphones. You're getting the side, yeah, because if I were to hit mute locally here, my side tone in my ears would also be muted, and so I would know right away. I'm like, wait, there's no Dave. Okay. Can't hear Dave. Dave's not here. Dave's not here, man. That's right. All right. Thanks to all of you for listening. Thanks for 19 years and counting of doing this show. It's amazing that we get to- We barely talked about that, Dave.
19 years. 19 years. Right? Yeah. I know. It's a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's we started this show right before, I guess, technically we released the first one right after we moved into this house. We moved up here to New Hampshire. It started like the the the planning of it started before we left. But the first one was released right after right after we moved in up here. So it's like it's an easy milestone for me when people say, how long have you lived in New Hampshire?
Sure i know it's like oh well it's you know 19 years and four days or something you know hey there you go but uh yeah i listened to the first one recently yeah it was kind of funny if uh don't take this wrong dave if you if you folks need a a sleeping assist go listen to the first one because it's very much like this you know just relaxed and then you put more energy into it yeah right yeah no it evolved i i it's been a little while since i've listened to the first one but um but it's out there
you know the um it's it's at uh what mgg.fm slash one is how to get there so you can you can go listen and for those of you who were keeping track it turns out. Mac geek episode six uh had lost its link uh in like to the audio file it's somewhere along the lines. I think it was in the migration of Mac Observer or something like that.
But I fixed that. One of you, and I can't remember who, was going back to the very beginning and is actually going to listen to the whole thing all the way through to see how long it takes.
Good on you uh do the math yeah yeah exactly an hour plus times what you know 10 42 so uh yeah but um they said gosh no no episode six is missing do you possibly have the audio file i'm like we definitely have it it's probably out there it's just not we're not pointing to it properly so i was able to fix that but uh but yeah yeah it the first one is is it's terribly boring it's awful Yeah. The first, the first Mac cast is actually a lot of the early Mac casts are horrible too.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't wish them on anybody, but luckily for me, people did stay and listen. And right.
I am appreciative of that because definitely you, you evolve, you know, it was cheap USB mic recorded in my car on my lunch break, you know, on my, I think probably iBook G3 at the time or something like that i don't know whatever it was funny wow yeah but for the record 10 24 hours is 43.42 days so if on average each one of those episodes is an hour it's going to take you 43.42 days to listen to all of them and they're longer i think on
average it's longer than an hour the first ones were shorter than an hour but i think we've yeah especially as we keep talking here adding to the minutes yeah fascinating yeah exactly we can make this 45 days.
If you want to come hear us talk though in person come to mac stock the three of us will be there we are doing a mac geek up live it seems like it's going to be friday night like the three of us are all like that's we're all happy about that great then then then it is now official it is friday night but we've talked to mike at max talk about it like this is all like all good and uh that's later in july in about a month uh and you can save 30
bucks on your pass using coupon code mac geek gab at max stock and that you know that'll get you that's not just the mackie gab thing that that you get to see there but it'll be an episode like we'll record it and release it on onto the feed i don't know if we will have video to release onto the feed or not but we'll We'll definitely have audio. We'll probably have video.
But yeah, so we'll do that on Friday night. And then we're there all weekend, assuming there's no weird issue that causes any of us to have to leave early. Yeah, July 12th through the 14th. And that's in Crystal Lake, Illinois. Is that right? Yeah, and it's all at one center now. Like, it's the hotel and the conference center are in the same location, which is a first for Mac stock. And I think is going to make, I think it's going to make it feel even more like
camp than Mac stock usually does. So. Yeah. Always a good time. Yep. You want to tell them how we're getting there, Pete? We're coming in a tiger. A 91 Grumman tiger. Yeah. So we should get there. It's going to be about six and a half, seven hours, depending on headwinds. Okay. Fun. With one fuel stop. Does that six and a half, seven hours include the fuel stop, or will the fuel stop be added to that?
I think the fuel stop will add to it, just because I think after three and a half, four hours of riding, we're going to want to stretch our legs and get a sandwich. Get a sandwich and all that. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's part of the fun of it. Yeah. Absolutely. Your time is going to be close to my time driving it. There you go. We could fly straight there, but Pete doesn't fly out 60 miles out over Lake Michigan, single engine.
Nope. Dave doesn't want to do that either. I like the idea of a glider being able to land on land, unless it's a seaplane. But I know yours is not. Exactly. In fact, recently when I went down to North Carolina, it was kind of crappy when we left New Hampshire. And I got rerouted, and so I'm copying down the route, and I do the whole thing. And I started plugging it into the GPS, and they've got me way south of Long Island. And I called the ATC back and went, yeah, I don't think so.
I ain't going there. What's your other plan? And they were nice about going wet. But as soon as I told them, I said, I'm single engine. I'm not going out over the water. They went, oh, yeah, okay. You can go this way then. That's great. It's cool that they're cool about that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Well, I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be a blast. Yeah. Likewise. Yep. All right, folks.
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Got any words of thanks or anything else to share with them, Adam? I think we can tell them don't get caught that's good made on a map.