It's time for Mac Geek Cab and Porthos John brings us our quick tip of the week by saying if you are in iPhoto on your Mac and you don't see your recent photos that you took on your phone, assuming you're using iCloud Photo, it might be due to the fact that syncing is currently paused on your iPhone. I have all the options set to allow cellular data, etc. But still, I find my phone seems to pause photos syncing a lot.
But one reason it seems is that if I use quick camera access from the lock screen without unlocking my phone, those don't want to sync until I unlock my phone, Wi-Fi or not. The quick fix is to go into photos on my phone and at the bottom of the library, I see a little line of text telling me whether or not syncing is paused and sometimes even why. And a small link to resume it. Now, more quick tips like this, plus your questions answered today on MacGeekGab 1029 for Monday, March 18th.
What is the day? Oh, I know. I pulled it up. It's National Sloppy Joe Day, folks. 2024. Music. Greetings folks and welcome to MacGeekGab, the show where you send in your quick tips like that, you send in some cool stuff found, you send in your questions, we try to answer your questions, we share your quick tips and your cool stuff found, we put it all together into an agenda, so that each of us, every single time we get together, will learn at least five new things.
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at least as of this morning while we're recording i'm dave hamilton and here in south dakota i'm adam christiansen. And guten tag all from landstuhl germany it's pilot pete good to be back with you guys in spite of my internet which has been atrocious at every stop on this trip it's been horrible so hopefully i'll hang in for most of this show yeah i'm getting blistering upload speeds like 0.8 megabits a second oh that's nice pete that's great yeah 1024 milliseconds ping times.
That's uh that's nice yeah so if i digitize everybody will now know why you couldn't possibly have planned it better to digitize during the word digitize pete so that's yep there you go i planned it i'm still stuck on sloppy joes and dave's made me want one now and i probably haven't had one in years yes same i can't even remember the last time i had one well right when i was a a kid for sure the thing is having a sloppy joe if you haven't had one in a number of years could be like an awkward
moment maybe you've forgotten how to eat it maybe you've forgotten how to make it and the good news is though in addition to being national sloppy joe day it is also awkward moments day so perfect yeah i think so yeah i gotta do it now so one of my earliest memories in life it was an awkward moment when i was eating a sloppy joe i was at another kid's birthday party i was probably about four and i was horrified because i didn't have a napkin and i was covered in sauce and it was it was like
i couldn't i was frozen until this kid's mother came over and cleaned me up i might have been three or four what sort of horrible hamburger burger is this wow no i didn't form it right it's falling apart that's um aptly named i wonder i wonder i. Wonder if these two things are related pete uh maybe it's all about you um yeah all right uh so i'm here in austin for south by southwest as i typically am every year at this time and we've got a couple things
to talk about that i have found here uh some great stuff it you know south by for those of you who don't know is a conference for creators uh it is a tech conference it is a music conference it is a film conference it is an education conference and there's all kinds of things going on in addition to being there being sessions about all of those topics there are also those things that musicians perform films are premiered tech is shown it's
all just all in one I joked to them that they created this conference specifically for me once because it like hits all of the things that I kind of do I don't make films but they make films about tech and music and so like that yeah. It's been good. But I've I noticed something this week. Right. And it's a quick tip. Like I'm going somewhere with this. They the you know, we have our notifications on our phones. Right. As one does.
And I noticed that while I was out and about, like attending sessions or doing things, many of these notifications I want to get. I want to know when there's, you know, like I get a text message and I want to know most of the things. In fact, I don't want to be in do not disturb. However, there were a series of notifications that I started getting that I realized I wanted to ignore. And I created what I now call my conference focus mode.
And specifically what I have turned off. I have used that focus mode to silence notifications only from specific apps. And those specific apps are things like home, my ring cameras, my vacuum cleaners, all of those things that I don't need to know about in real time being that I'm not at home.
You know, I'm not concerned, overly concerned. I mean, I always I'm always a little concerned, but I'm not overly concerned about people being at my house when they shouldn't be or whatever, you know, and but I don't need to know when the garage door opens and closes. I don't need to know when someone's in the driveway. You know, I don't need to know when the humidifier in the bedroom runs out of water.
Like these are not things that are relevant to my life here in conference, you know, in conference mode. So I've been in conference mode all week and it really has worked out great because it's let me get the things that I want to get that allow me to be productive and focused on what I'm doing here. So think about these things. You know, it at first I put myself in do not disturb. And I'm like, I don't really want that, though. I want something more granular.
And i am i am constantly reminded of the first time on this show john asked me you know it with the ios betas whatever version of ios it was that had conference um i had focus modes in it yeah and he was like you know what are those like are you using them i'm like nah they're stupid it's dumb i i don't think it's going to catch on whatever and obviously i i prove myself wrong every single single day i i have a few set up but i have not really used them but i see the value
for a lot of a lot of people i mean part of my problem is i work from home i don't travel.
A lot so not a lot of scenarios where i actually need that i think i have a work one and like a after work one yeah um that i've played around with but i haven't really done a lot with it but for for it for people who you know really want to control that stuff and really want like i think it's a really cool feature and the fact that they all sync and yes you know turn things on and off and like really hunker down i mean i i i think it's a great
idea it's just you have to be that that type of person where you're disciplined to like set them up and use them. So I think for those people who are like that, and that's just not me, I just recognize that's not me. But for people who want that, like it's a really cool feature. And that's why I thought it was going to be dumb for me, because I am generally not that person, Adam, right?
But it's, I will create them. I do get frustrated at times, not all the time, But I do get frustrated when my phone starts notifying me of things that I don't want to be aware of in that moment. Right. I'm trying to focus on one thing. I, you know, may resemble some of the list of symptoms that describe ADHD. Right. You know, so certainly there are there are times when I don't want to be distracted. And so it's in those moments that I create my new focus modes.
Like I use, I use that frustration as the fuel to create one. And one of my favorite ones, I've talked about it on the show is the one I call nuclear, which just has only allows notifications from my nuclear family. And that's it. And, you know, and a couple of other like very specific apps that sort of are related to my, my family. And it works out great. Like I, I turn that on. Sometimes I'll have that on all weekend, the nuclear mode. Yeah. One thing I know, and I'm sorry, Pete.
So one thing I've known, I may be describing this improperly, but I'll do my best with the focus modes. I found that there seems to be no way to only exclude unknown callers. I could be could be wrong. I could be doing it wrong. I've tried several different ways. But it seems to me that once I'm in any focus mode and the lock screen is on, only the people I allow can get through. And I haven't found one that allows all people in my contact list.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that that's a. Couldn't you just go into and I might I'm using my phone as my camera. So I apologize for not being able to dig in. I'm traveling. I don't have my spare phone camera set up. But can't you just go into whatever that setting is in iOS? There is a setting in iOS that says block unknown callers. Yes. That's in the phone settings. Yeah. In the phone settings. Thanks, Adam. Yeah. So that may be it.
But then I don't think that that blocks texts from Joe Biden and Donald Trump and JFK and Margaret Thatcher and everybody else who's running for something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to cover every political. Yeah, you did great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The problem with that setting is I sometimes forget to turn it off when I'm like I've had to do. Yes. You know, get people to do work on the house or like, you know, like and then I don't get calls.
And for whatever reason, a lot of times these days, it feels like I don't know why people don't leave voicemails. Yes. You know. Yeah. And that's not granular enough because you can turn it on for an hour or until this evening or the end of this event. I'd like to be able to, you know, turn it off in two hours and 26 minutes or something like that. But I wonder, is there is it possible to automate that switch with a shortcut? The answer is probably no.
Sure. But if it is, you can run a shortcut when you turn on and off a certain focus mode, right? You can have a shortcut triggered by a focus mode. You can. There you go. You can. In fact, when I had it at one point, the StreamYard, I automatically turn on podcasting focus. Right. Exactly. Cool. Yeah, exactly. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Grumpy Mike comments in real time here that he's pretty sure that JFK and Thatcher are not running for office at this time.
And that's only because time is this relative thing. Like we live in all of the times, Grumpy Mike. So it's all the same. It's all I was going to say, JFK Jr. And then I didn't. And then then so I had to include Margaret Thatcher. Of course. Yes, I got you. Who knows? They may be running for something else somewhere else. That's the thing. Parallel universe. Or just, you know, at a different time in our same timeline. If you believe in it. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. You want to take us, please, Adam? Yeah, to R and Doug. For the love of all that's good and pure. Oh, please.
R and Doug says, I've set a yearly reminder to clean up my macOS catastrophes system logs that Apple's developers never saw fit to do because they invisibly eat up your disk space, causing you to run out of disk and to be forced to delete stuff you really want or buy a new computer here are the infinitely growing ones that I've found, there are others no doubt others and it's these are log files that build up in var logs from the root of your system the area in a hidden directory and
it's It's like core capture D, FSCK APFS log, FSCK HFS log, the install log. So all these different log files that would potentially build up. And you might have different ones. Not everybody's going to have the same ones. It's going to be dependent upon, I think, what you do on your system, right? Yep. And we have a link in the show notes to a list of these files. Do we give folks the dangerous tip, the keyboard shortcut, if you're in Finder?
Yeah, go ahead. Command-Shift-Period to toggle on and off invisible files in Finder and folders. Just be careful because you don't want to be messing around too much or deleting certain things, especially at the root system level on your Mac.
But you could go in and find these. So if you want to find these without having to go through the terminal, You can pop open your computer's hard drive and Command-Shift-Period, and you will see the VAR folder, and then you can go into the logs folder and see which files you have there. So you're right about this, that you could navigate there that way. And I love the reminder of the quick tip of Command-Shift-Period to show hidden files.
Files uh the way i get there is i go to the finders go menu and i choose go to folder which is also command shift g and type in slash var slash log you don't even have to have hidden files turned on for that to work so that that would be the other way to get there so yeah i like it i like it um for some reason my fingers on my laptop don't know my archive shortcut and i i need to relearn that uh so but there you go uh pete you want to take us to
the next quick tip from from ben and porthos john yeah i'll do that uh so both of them uh wrote in about this and porthos john writes it's probably been said but it's worth saying again because i use it every. There's a much faster way to attach photos to email or to upload to Discord, websites, etc. On your Mac, as opposed to the old way of opening photos, dragging them out, or exporting them to a folder on the desktop or somewhere else where you know where they are.
He says when you get the upload dialog scroll to the bottom left sidebar and you'll see a media section that has photos under it it also has movies and music i think but tense media so if you click that it will show your iphoto library and allow you to select images to upload easy as pi no duplicating slash exporting necessary and then been followed up with and if you find it easier to locate a picture and photos you can drag it from
there to the attached dialog in the other application so without having to export you can just drag that thumbnail over to the export dialog and boom you got it yeah so yeah and those came to us through discord Matt geek gab comm slash discord, Mackie cab comm slash discord that's right yeah yeah yeah or you could send Send something to us in feedback at feedback at macgeekgab.com. Wait, did you say feedback at macgeekgab.com? He heard me, Adam.
Yeah, feedback at macgeekgab.com. Yeah, that's just what it is. All right. We have one from My Face is Too Big. Love these call signs. In Discord. Yeah, they're great. It's a time-honored thing. I know in, obviously in your world as a pilot, the call signs are a thing and online, like when we were on bulletin boards, nobody used their real name. Like it's, everything was a sock account, folks. It's how it was.
My face is too big writes, Someone was recently expressing frustration about how man pages in the terminal are displayed. Did you know that you can actually view any man page, and I'll put an asterisk on that, some man pages, in their own separate windows with the default terminal app? Go into terminal, simply click help, and type in whatever man page you are looking for and click on it. Plus, they appear a different color, making it simple to distinguish them from your active terminal window.
This is also searchable with Command-F. And it's interesting. I tried this, right? And it only works, it seems to only work for things that are built into macOS.
I'm not sure why that is but it is so um but uh the the other option is well there's two other options one is to use a command called tldr uh that from the terminal you have to install it so it would be brew install tldr and then that shows you oh it's the right way to describe tldr It shows you, well, the TLDR, the synopsis of how to use a command with some examples. So it really distills the man page down into its essence that most people are going to need. And then...
Porthos John says there is a TLDR app that is built for the iPad, but because it's built for iPad and not restricted, it will work on any Apple Silicon Mac in its own window. So you can use this TLDR pages app to pull up all of your TLDR pages in a separate window on your Mac, too. So lots of lots of interesting ways of going about this. I think I mentioned this last time, but I'll mention it again, because I just love this app and I use it for way more things than just man pages.
But the dash app is an app for all documentation and for different languages, for different things.
I have there's there's an ascii character set one i think there's a regex one and it's an app that you can choose to download different types of uh basically documentation and have it locally so like the i have the entire php command library locally in here and i can search it and pull things up not only that it has a little um section in it where you can put code snippets and scripts and things like that and fire them off with keyboard shortcuts and
stuff so interesting great great little app and it's on set up and of course so if you have set up you can get it and what remind remind us again say the name of that app one more time out of dash dash yep the dash app and for those who are new to the show and there's a couple of you after keep keep join yep man page means manual, You know, not trying to insult anyone's intelligence. All right, folks, let's talk tech and tacos. Well, maybe not tacos, but definitely tech and terrific meals.
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beginning. I guess that makes me old, but I've never been caught. That's a good thing. I need your geek wisdom on adding my desktop and document files to my iCloud drive. My first question is, do any of you use it? Second, my main Mac is a work-issued M116-inch MacBook Pro with a 500-gigabyte internal hard drive. I use Dropbox and store almost all my documents there except one work-specific folder I store on the hard drive on the MacBook Pro. Pro.
We also use Google as our system at work, so much of my work-related stuff is on a company Google Drive. I backup my photos in iCloud Photo Library. What would the advantages and disadvantages be of turning this feature on in my situation? Thanks for all you do!
Yeah, I I use the the desktop and document syncing on all of my Macs years ago after upgrading to the two terabyte family plan, which last week I mentioned I might need to upgrade past it because I figured, well, I have more storage than I need, which is getting to be less true. I thought, well, why not? Right. And but I am not using Apple's documents folder as my main document storage for that. I use Synology Drive, but that's kind of a material, you know, use Dropbox, whatever.
But still having whatever is in my documents folder synced everywhere proves useful every now and again, especially with the files app on my iDevices. Yes, there are integrations for Dropbox into the files app and Synology Drive into the files app. I haven't found anything that is as seamless as Apple's own documents folder in the files.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly, like this is, so when I need to get something to or from my, mostly from, like if I'm saving it from my phone or something, I will put it in the documents folder and I just know it's gonna work. I don't have to like clunkily re-log in to my services and all that. So that works fine and that's convenient. Where this syncing really pays off for me is that I love having my desktop folder be the same.
All of my macs you know i use the my laptop obviously when i'm traveling i have a mac in the studio i have a mac in my office and just knowing that whatever i put into my desktop folder or a subfolder thereof is just there i use my desktop folder for a lot of the i have a subfolder of my desktop folder that i use for a lot of sort of in progress files like like the the agenda document uh the for the show notes where i actually track the time stamps and all that
that's in my desktop folder so it's always synced uh the the some of the way i do like the ad preparation and all that stuff and by the way i keep meaning to say i've been using chat gpt to write my scripts for the ads to keep things kind of interesting so if if you have been if you are someone that if you say oh well i already know about say linkedin jobs or i already use factor or I don't need to listen to the ad,
give it a listen because you might actually, I get a chuckle out of the scripts that, uh, I started getting bored with the scripts that I was coming up with because it was the same me and oftentimes the same talking points. So I would just wind up saying the same thing over and over again. So I let chat GPT help, help me, uh, make it funny. And yes, that, that is literally part of the prompt.
Make it funny. and and incorporate the phrase don't get caught into the ads so that'll be in every ad if uh if i can make it happen but but yeah having that that desktop folder be that sort of active kind of things that i might need to touch quickly and just having those there all the time i have a folder on my desktop here's another quick tip and yes the caffeine is kicking in uh because i had I had about three and a half hours of sleep.
But I have a folder on my desktop called Kill Me, and I know that at least in the moment that I put something in that folder, I do not need to keep it forever. And then I have a Hazel rule that deletes things in the kill me folder that are older than like 60 days or something. I can't remember exactly what it is, but this way I know it's just being purged constantly and I can throw things in there and be like, yep, I want to put this there.
I want it synced on all of my Macs, but I don't need it long-term and I might not even need it past this very moment in time, but I want to save it there.
That that little tip I think is one of those sanity savers too so yeah I also use desktops and documents I don't have a lot to add there I think like you covered a lot of it for me a big advantage too is just having access to that stuff from my iPad or iPhone when I need it yeah right it's not downloaded there obviously I use the optimized storage on those devices but doing that and then the other tip that I would have because he mentions the work situation situation is um i have my
icloud connected to my computer at work but really the only feature i want there is the copy paste because i have to copy and paste urls for testing to like my personal iphone and stuff like that but i i turn off i go into icloud and i turn off every other every other syncing like i don't sync my contacts i don't sync my i just use certain features on that computer so i don't it sounds like he might want to do more than that but like be aware you know you can and go into an individual
machine and really control what's syncing via iCloud and what's not syncing. Fair. So yeah.
Anything more on that or are we uh we good to move on to andrew here pete yeah so andrew wrote in with a question for us um and here it is okay he says i've been listening to the mac geek gab and the mac cast for years and i've got to say i'm enjoying listening to you all together thank you andrew anyway my question is about backing up ios devices adam especially is a passionate passionate advocate of backing up. And I follow your advice, Adam, religiously for my Mac.
But I'm running out of available iCloud space and looking for ways to save a bit of space because I'm a cheapskate. All right. I'm sorry. I got to editorialize here. You're not a cheapskate, Andrew. You're a frugal pilot. And I don't want to pay for storage if I don't have to. So I was wondering about all my iOS devices and whether they really really need to be backed up?
Email, photos, music, social media, data, notes, UpNote, books, etc., etc., etc., are all cloud-based anyway, and apps can be re-downloaded. Is there a compelling reason to back up anymore? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.". Yeah. I turn on iCloud Backup and I use it. For my iOS devices, that's my main backup. I know people who will religiously also back up locally.
So that gets backed up by other backups, right? You can go into the finder and you can set up your iPhone to back locally and sync like it did back in the old days. I just mostly use iCloud for that. And, you know, I would say I'm kind of with you. I'll say what I always say about backup. Backup has to be a personal thing, in my opinion, right? I am fanatic about it. I've had losses. losses, you should have some form of backup, especially for important things.
But like what we were just talking about with documents and if you're syncing your documents and folders somewhere, right, and they're being backed up on your Mac. It's OK to probably not have those downloaded to your iPhone and backed up. Same thing, like if you're using iCloud photo library. So, yeah, I your point is well taken.
Yeah, you don't need to probably back up everything, but you probably should think about the things that are really important to you and maybe adjust your backups for that. Yeah, I think an important thing to discuss here is, you know, Andrew mentions mail, photos, music, all of those things are cloud-based and don't need to be backed up. That is correct. Apple agrees with you and doesn't back that stuff up separately in your iPhone iCloud backups.
So you are not duplicating and double dipping into your iCloud backup space. The only things, as I understand it, that are being backed up are bits of data that are not otherwise synced to Apple devices. And actually, even Dropbox, like I remember when all of this kind of was developing years ago, Apple lets app vendors flag data as should this be backed up or is it something that can be gotten from somewhere else? Like, is this a cache essentially that doesn't need to be backed up?
Or is this the only place that the, at least the app thinks the data exists? And so, yes, it should be backed up. And so even like if you're syncing Dropbox files locally to your Mac or to your iPhone, that's not going to be backed up in your iCloud backups either.
So like the things that it's backing up are the things that you would need to get yourself to the point where you could then sync back down from the cloud everything else including all your app binaries if you were to have to you know get a new phone or or what what have you so yeah and of course the. The piece of software that comes up all the time, if you don't want to back up to iCloud, but you do want to back up to your Mac, is use iMazing, which you can do.
But you can also back up your iPhone to your Mac with the Finder, too. Like, that functionality used to be in the iTunes app. Now it's just in the Finder. And so you can do it Apple's way. You can do it iMazing's way. IMazing lets you be a little more granular and more reliably wireless about it, I'll say.
Yeah so i don't know remember the days when you used to have to plug your iphone in to sync it and back it up yeah what's wrong with that pete don't you don't do that just for just for the sake of uh for the sake of doing like neanderthals i mean there there still is one reason to to do it that way and i will typically do that one time before i do like an upgrade of stuff and that's because if you do the manual sync and you turn on the encryption option it will back up your health data and
other data that normally would not be part of that backup oh that's right the locally stored encrypted stuff that is only on the phone yeah yep typically about that I forgot about that yeah so but you know one other thing to add on this is like if you're running out of backup storage space to dave's point that you know it documents like your apps do not get backed up just the data for your apps gets backed up because apple knows we can re-download
the apps and then attach the data to it so a couple of things i know i have turned on recently the option in apps to allow it to. I forget what it says like when an app has been not used for a long time you can offload the app app itself and just keep the data. So I do that. And then if you need to use that app again, you just tap it, it redownloads and away you go. Um, you know, obviously that's not convenient if you don't have internet at
that point. So that's where you can get caught with that one. So take that with a grain of salt, but yeah, I use that.
And then the other thing is like, I tend to find what mostly eats up my iCloud backups are my iCloud photo library and my kids, uh, messages messages because they get videos and photos and like everything so you might look at like cleaning up that data maybe backing up the things that are important say like if you have 10 years of photos that you know people have sent you in in messages and back up the download and back up the ones that you want to keep and like maybe purge off
the ones that are just like you know a picture of i don't know a meal you had or something i don't know what Silly cat videos Tacos Yeah.
Random memes random memes that got shared with you that you could go find the meme again if you really needed to yeah i so i i want to circle back and i'm hoping as i'm vamping here that i'll remember what i want to ask you about and i do um because i don't have i usually have a piece of paper where i can like write down the hey remind me you know remind myself to ask adam about the off the automatic offloading of apps because i i i think it's on by default at times i have found it enabled
on my phone in the past and i've gotten caught right it's i'm in one of those moments i want to launch whatever the app is and it ain't there and i you know i'm either on a weak cellular connection and can't download or whatever right so my question about that so i have that turned off and i like i anytime i notice it turned on i'm furious right so right my question is you use I use it still. I have not used it in a long time.
Is there a way to flag specific apps and say, no matter what, even if I haven't launched this since the day I installed it, never offload this particular app? Is there a way to do that? not that I am aware of but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist because I haven't gone in in a long time the reason I haven't turned on is frankly I'm lazy about cleaning up apps on my device like especially since we got the new app launcher space you know they're like.
All my important apps live on my home screen, but like every other app is often, you know, purgatory and a little search menu. So like I never go in there and see, and when I do, I'm horrified. I'm like, I downloaded this app, you know, as a flyway, cause somebody mentioned it and it's been sitting here for, you know, and especially with like games, like in games have a lot of data, a lot of times like hundreds of megabytes, although that data would still stay there.
So this is mostly about saving local storage on your device.
It's not going to really help you with this backup thing that's fair yeah it's a little bit of a tangent yeah yeah yeah yeah and a quick easy way to do that is to type storage and go into settings and pull down that left menu and type storage and it takes you to you can get to the storage manager there it allows you to choose it shows you what i think it sorts it by the most data used yeah and then you can go into there and yeah yep cool all right so that's a little bit of
a geek challenge like is there a way to flag an app is a please save this on my phone so feedback at macgeekgab.com i have another personal geek challenge i i've been in a hotel room for i think this is my sixth day or something here uh which is fine i i like to stay in these residence in so i have a little like efficiency kitchen and i can make hotel room nachos at night when i get back which i really like um sure judgment if you want they're delicious um i and
i'm in and out of my room all the time right like especially during conference days i'll go over to the convention center i'm really i always try to get a hotel that's close to the convention center and i'll be like you know i have some work to do i'm just going to go back to the room i have my separate screen i have my fortress of solitude here where no one's going to bother me and i can like heads down and get some work done i would love to know if housekeeping has come and i started
thinking Because I was sitting in the convention center in a session. I'm like, all right, when this session's over, I've got like 90 minutes. I don't have anybody to meet with. I think I'm going to bounce back and get some work done. But I could stay here and do it like in the media room or something. And if housekeeping hasn't come, I'll stay out of my room, you know, for this. And so I started thinking, well, what would it take to do that? All of our hotel rooms have Wi-Fi.
Is there some and of course, anything we're looking for would need to be able to use like the captive portal, at least for configuration in a hotel room in an easy way. Couldn't we just have a motion sensor to trigger that? Yes, there's motion in your hotel room. And then I could just use that and say, OK, well, if there's been motion in my hotel room, I'm going to choose to believe that it was housekeeping. Like, you know, could be anything.
But then it's like, all right, great. And has that most when was that motion most recently detected? Was it detected, you know, two minutes ago, in which case they're still working and I want to stay out of their way? Or was it 30 minutes ago or two hours ago? And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm good to go. Like it is possible. Like the world exists in such a way in our timeline currently anyway, that this would be possible.
And I feel like I and maybe this is just something about me and I need to talk to someone about it, but I'll talk to you guys. You know, I find myself wondering this often.
Like oh has housekeeping come you know and then and then i know whether to detour around or whatever i don't know i don't know you could bring like a eufy doorbell with you dave and set that up and no you know what grumpy grumpy mike in in our discord says bring a travel router like your barrel thing or whatever that that would bypass the captive portal part of this so then any iot motion sensor would work yeah oh that is what i tell you i have no idea
what what they're doing here in this hotel in germany i was an hour yesterday screwing with it and i could not get a login page for the hotel's wi-fi unless i was directly, could not get the router to repeat it to me and get on the barrel i'm thinking here's the thing this is comes from living in a state now where like hunting is a big thing i'm thinking there's got to be like a cellular enabled like remote game camera that can like notify your phone.
Right yes yeah because they get those out in the woods you know to like detect game in certain certain areas they they have to have those that would just like probably come like some of pete's devices as you mentioned that just come with built-in cellular you know plans or whatever when you buy the device you could just point it at the door and it just anytime there was motion yep and it'd send you a photo yeah i don't know if that's a violation of privacy but.
Yeah you're right like that's a yeah i don't necessarily need to watch they have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your rented room though right i have a reasonable expectation of privacy in here yeah yeah yeah huh that's interesting but yeah no the travel router thing that would probably be the least expensive way to get there especially over time and with the relative infrequency.
That i travel i wouldn't want to be paying for you know cellular service for this device just for like this purpose but you know yeah yeah but i like your idea of a game camera like oh we've spotted the wild housekeeping staff you know right huh yeah that's okay all right there's a solution here i i know that like i obsess about weird things they were atypical things i don't want to say they're weird like but uh you can say they're weird you can say it about me it's fine yeah oh yeah and
porthos john says a raspberry pi with a wired ir motion sensor right that way oh my son just got a raspberry pi that he's playing with so maybe i need to um i need to get him working on this i have a i have a toy called little bits that has a mini raspberry pi thing and you can set it up with all kinds of sensors you could do trip sensors you can do motion sensors you can do IR sensors and there are these little snap together it's like a science toolkit for kids it's like the modern version in
my opinion of the old Radio Shack electronics kits oh yeah sure yeah. All right. So you could build a little contraption with those, even like to physically detect when the door opens and then cloud send you a notification. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, no, no, no. This is, this is, um, this is good. I will, I will think about this. All right. Look, have you ever felt like your team's work is spread across so many apps and tabs that you need a GPS to navigate through it all?
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All right, let's continue with questions, shall we? We've got a couple of good mornings left in the queue here. I got Michael here, and he says, My wife and I just finished hosting a Josco Stefan and Sven Junbach, two guys, for a house concert with about 50 attendees. They came from Germany and do Gypsy Jazz and Jazz Minoche. It goes by various names. Great stuff. I have a mixture of attendees wanting to post short videos of the event.
The main guy doing this uses Apple, so he sent me an invite to add to his album Fine. Of course, this limits who I can invite to view the album. So we have so far and possibly contribute more. I'm mutilating that. Sorry. This is a very informal and private group, of course.
And we're not looking to publish it online we just want a way to share those who share with those who attended and actually there was an incredible jam afterwards some of the young musicians who came asked for vids from this from the jam as well should we Google Drive it Dropbox some other way you keep using Apple using the Apple world we of course do not want to get caught Michael huh Huh.
I, um, I have thoughts on this. Um, I don't know, I don't know of a perfect solution for this, but if I were in this scenario, I would probably create it. I would probably put it on YouTube, um, with a private, uh, marking by marking the videos private, right. So that only, um, people, I don't think you can do a password on YouTube, but you can do, uh, you know, unlisted or something so that you get a playlist and you can, you can share it that way.
You may run into YouTube's content filters that will identify any songs that they played, which are copywritten, including their own songs. If they've, if they've written their own songs, it will identify those, um. It shouldn't be a problem, though. It will just notify you and say, hey, this is a version of a copywritten song. We're going to put ads in this, but you're not going to get money. You're not going to get money from this. The rights holder for this song will get the money from this.
Other than that, there's no friction. YouTube is not going to like, you know, put a naughty flag on your account or anything like that. There's no strikes generally for this kind of thing. So that'd be one way to do it. The other way to do it would be to upload it to Vimeo. And that does allow a password protected link to be used. And so you could do this one of, you know, one of two ways.
I'm sure there's more than two ways. So I'd be curious if either of you or any anybody out there in the Mac eCap family knows.
Pretty sure rumble allows you a private portion channel too that only those with uh with the password can get in yeah yeah i was thinking similar with the with the vimeo i mean obviously dropbox is uh probably a good option too although that's more of a download i don't know it depends on what functionality you're looking for are you looking for them to be able to just you know sort of view it and stream it right there in their browser or app or whatever or i can't
remember if dropbox will actually i guess it probably depends on the video format but not really set up for streaming right dropbox is more about uploading and downloading files yeah but you're right adam that dropbox will show like it for it given the right type of file it dropbox will let you play in the browser i've certainly done that yeah yeah yeah but for like a it sounds like part Part of this too though is maybe there's different people,
that need to be able to upload or want to upload clips. So that's where it gets challenging, right? So like the Vimeo thing's great because I guess they could all send it to them and then they could put them all on Vimeo for everybody to access.
Looking for that more collaborative thing where anybody can kind of share in the like uploading to a directory you know i mean obviously you can do that with apple like photo shares and in iCloud photo library which would be really cool i'm trying to think if there's any like.
Cross-platform and the other thing that i can't remember is now if you do have an apple share can't you invite you can invite windows people i think they just have to go through a web interface face right uh yeah i think that's right i think that's like an icloud an icloud shared folder yeah and stuff like that cool yeah i think that's right yeah yeah interesting that's maybe a geek challenge i i've you know i don't unfortunately i don't work a lot with windows anymore so i don't
get a chance to test a lot of these things but i'm fairly certain apple's sharing of icloud stuff stuff with windows devices is opened up a little bit but you go through a just a web interface yeah you know you don't get a nice desktop integration yeah right yeah exactly yeah huh yeah we'd be curious if you folks have a solution to this obviously feedback at macgeekup.com because it.
It's not it's not that all that off the beaten path to want to do this right right like this is this is a thing and then what i what i really want maybe this does exist would be an app that takes all of those videos and i and certainly for your house concert this would work but where this would really see more sort of general appeal would be you know any kind of party a wedding that sort of thing where lots of people are taking photos and videos
all of which are time stamped And of course, geolocated. Right. And if they all shared these things with one library, why couldn't a tool go and stitch all of these together, creating a multicam video in, you know, by using the it probably be a little bit of AI magic that sort of helped sync things up. But by using the timestamps of when all these things were taken, why couldn't it create like this multicam video of your wedding that was sort of crowdsourced, right?
That's brilliant, Dave. I can't take credit for the idea. No, but still, that's... You know, one of the guys in Fling, my friend Aaron, who's this genius, he's our keyboard player. He has these ideas like this. And he's like, wouldn't that be great at a gig when people are like taking pictures and videos? Like to just stitch that together. He's like, why isn't this possible? And he said this, I don't know, five years ago to me.
An app could do that, too. Obviously, AI now makes it even easier for that app to function. Yeah, to really kind of sync things up or whatever. You've got all the pattern matching. It's kind of like being there without being there. That's awesome. And you get this multicam, you know, amateur given. Sure. Right? So, I don't know. I don't know. Didn't Boinks have an app sort of like that back in the day? Sort of, yes.
Yeah, but it wasn't. It was like part of the way there. It was part of the way there. Party Snapper.
Party Snapper. It's still there. yep yep that's right you could create a video wall i think you know like on your apple tv and then anybody at a party could be snapping photos and it would in real time i think throw those up on the tv yes dangerous yeah right yeah no aaron had asked me about this right about the time that party snapper came out and so i i remember sharing this idea with our friends at boinks like saying Hey.
This is like you're you're this is adjacent to to what's going on right now. So, yeah. And they were like, oh, that would be interesting. I mean, it would be a lot of work, I think, to create that app, not just the stitching together of it or the correlating of it. But then there would need to be an interface where you as the final arbiter slash editor of this could go through and say, OK, well, not this video.
This is terrible you know this is yes it was taken at the time but it's of the inside of someone's pocket like maybe not so good you know what i mean like so there would need to be some human review capabilities and that's where things start to get a little crazy but if you've already got that because you've written it for an a video editing app for iphone well okay now Now, you know, I don't know. I feel like this is something where Apple could shine.
Like a first party app could do this. It wouldn't be perfect. It wouldn't be as granular as we'd want, but they could get it done. And I did look up shared iCloud drive folders will work on Windows with iCloud for Windows on Windows 11. So you can, you know, obviously the challenge there is your Windows folks are going to have to get, I think, an Apple ID, which you can get for free and install Windows iCloud for Windows.
But then you can share it says you can share a folder with any compatible app, make changes if you give them permission to edit.
It so you could create that collaborative folder there if you wanted to yeah interesting interesting, um i i will i will ask and answer tom's question here at least i'll start things off uh because then i've got a cool stuff found that i think that i saw here i stumbled onto here at south by southwest that i will um share about it but he says i'm in the market for some new small small speakers for my Mac. And I have a general question about what speaker interface I should use that
would give the best sound quality. Knowing that that's subjective. I'm looking at either my Mac minis output audio jack or wireless speakers that support Bluetooth. Any thoughts on which interface or speaker brands, the speakers are just going to sit in my office. So wireless versus wired is not an issue in terms of those logistics. Okay.
It's a great question. it is worth noting that bluetooth is still a compressed audio format so it is loss lossy meaning you will lose data there will be less data making it to the speaker in most cases than there is in the original audio source of course if it's a very you know like it's a 128k mp3 or something you're going to get it the full thing on bluetooth but most of us are not listening to things like anymore right because um yeah whether or not bluetooth bluetooth compression
causes you any perceived quality change loss or improvement is subjective as you said but it is there the other thing that bluetooth does is it introduces a delay of somewhere between let's say 40 milliseconds on on the very best case low end all the way up to, you know, 250 milliseconds on the high end. And so, you know, You're not going to want Bluetooth speakers in your office. Zoom calls on Bluetooth speakers are terrible.
Zoom does a pretty good job of managing the echo, but you will get more and more echo on this if you wind up doing that. So there's no reason to go Bluetooth. There's no reason to compress that. I would go with something wired. Now, for small desktop speakers, I still really like Audio Engine's offerings. The Audio Engine A2, they're the speakers that I have in my office. They're about, I think they're like three or four inches tall. They're small.
Maybe they're five or six inches tall, but they're compact is what I should say. They are wired and they sound great. They're full. You can add a subwoofer to them if you really want some full sound. I listen to music at my desk all day on just these audio engine A2s. Now, the audio engine A2 is not available anymore, but the A2 plus is. And in my office, I discovered something because I was told to test this and the folks at audio engine were right.
They said, oh, you're just plugging this into the audio output of your Mac.
Try plugging it in to our d1 digital to audio converter and i thought okay fine so you plug this d1 into your usb port on your mac and then you just plug the speakers into the output on the d1 the difference was night and day it sounded like i like the stereo field widened i i was i was shocked i really didn't expect much much of a difference and i normalized for volume levels i I checked it with a DB meter to make sure that I wasn't getting the it's louder,
therefore it sounds better, you know, thing. Because that's like that is fairly universal. If you turn it up to a certain above a certain point, obviously, we might disagree on these things. But, you know, you add a few DB to something and it sounds better because you hear more. I normalized for all of that. No, that wasn't the issue. It really is the discrete power supply in these decks and the quality of the deck, the deck that's in our Mac.
It's not, you know, it's not engineered to be the very best, whereas like the D1 is one of the best that's out there. So I say all this because you don't have to buy the audio engine A2s and a separate DAC. You can buy the audio engine A2+, which for $269. It is the audio engine A2s and it has a USB input, meaning it's got an external DAC built into the speakers.
So you could also plug it directly into your mac and do your own ab testing and maybe that's fun but uh you're probably going to wind up just using that so for 269 bucks you get your um you get your you get your speakers and they sound fantastic so nice that that's yeah that's where i would would go with it there are many many many many good options out there so Dave I hate to break in with this but my company has said they're not gonna pay me if I don't go to work I've unfortunately hit
my heart out everybody so I am gonna say goodbye to everybody be safe and we'll chat with you next week don't don't get caught we'll see you Pete thanks for hanging out as long as you could yeah man thanks blue skies man yeah thank you um so what do you do you listen to music at your desk adam i know you are in an office where you like you're the only one in there so you could be playing games out loud i do all the time but i just use a homepod mini that's another
good option for someone in this scenario yeah yeah i would prefer speakers if i was doing more with audio but i for zoom meetings i just use my airpods pro um i don't really need any. Other audio coming out but you know depending upon what.
You're doing i mean the home pod's really only good for music um which is mostly what i just listen to when i'm in the office so i'm not playing games i'm not like i wouldn't want to watch a movie with the home pod mini sitting behind me right if i had a stereo pair maybe in front of me then yeah Yeah, I guess I could set them up that way. But yeah, I think you can stereo pair minis now, right? Yes. Maybe not. No, yes, you can. Yes, you can. Okay. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. For a while, you couldn't. You had to use the big ones. So right. Right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Yeah, that's yeah. The HomePod mini would be great. HomePod minis connect using AirPlay, right? Essentially, it's Wi-Fi, not Bluetooth. So you get lossless sound to them. In a sense, like there's, I believe you get CD quality sound. So if there's something that's higher, it will sort of dumb it down a little bit, probably not in a way that matters to most of us.
Yeah but like i said if it was movies or games i might i might prefer something like what you mentioned the a2 pluses or something yeah yeah the a2 pluses though it's a it's a great thing and i was stoked to find out that they baked in that dac with it so yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Here at south by southwest i uh went to the expo center you know and went to their expo that shows all kinds of cool tech and stuff and all that and i was like roped into a demo by a company called brain audio they're actually an austin company b-r-a-n-e audio and they have the brain x which is a smart speaker it does the a lady i believe it also does the g lady, it is bluetooth if you want it to be it is airplay if you
want it to be you can pair them together to be stereo it is actually a stereo speaker all by itself it has multiple tweeters in it so that it you know creates a stereo field which is quite impressive they they knew that people needed to to experience this thing. So they built a room within the convention center that was fairly isolated sound-wise. So we could go in and demo this and they were comparing it against the JBL speaker, the Sonos Move.
And I, of course, was like, well, I need to hear this. So I went in, And what they told me before I went in was that they figured out a way to put a subwoofer into this that moved 10 times as much air as a subwoofer of that size using normal technology. They use this whole like floating magnet thing that keeps the speaker suspended. And so that when air moves, it was like, okay, like the tech sounded very cool and is very cool.
It's like, what's it sound like? So I went in and listened to this thing and I had to use the DB meter on my watch to confirm that it wasn't like six DB louder than the other one, you know, than like the Sonos move. The sound from this was full. It was really, really impressive. It's about 20% more. I think it's a $500 speaker. So not cheap at all, but they're onto something here. There's some tech.
I'm sure they've got it all patented and all that stuff. But my guess is we will see people licensing something like this from them or other people developing their own versions of this. But it's it was a really, really smooth low end is is the way I would describe it. So, yeah, brain audio and it is the brain audio X speaker.
Speaker so you know cool yeah maybe that's an option for uh for our friend that the tom who needed an external speaker with his mac so yeah we have any more cool stuff found to go through adam it's just us yeah yeah i got one from uh two short planks he says so on mac geek gab mac geek gab yeah these names right they're awesome on mac geek gab 1027 you had discussed had a discussion about finding devices on your local network one thing that you didn't mention was bonjour aka zeroconf the
protocol that allows you to use the name of a device instead of its ip address this is built in and enabled by default on all apple devices and is supported on most printers and other internet connected devices there's even an option to enable it on a synology How this works is everything effectively gets a .local DNS entry that only works within the local network.
So instead of typing the IP address of my Mac, I can type marx-macbook-air.local, which always points to whatever IP address my Mac currently has. On a Mac, Bonjour broadcasts out.
Two devices on your local network whatever name is set in the local host name section at the bottom of system settings general sharing so you can change it if you don't like the default name apple chooses for you this is a great way to find a particular device if you know how to remember its dot local name but apple doesn't provide an easy way to browse for devices the solution is to use a free app like flame from the ios or mac app stores this app shows all devices
on your local network that are using bonjour and whatever it knows about them what the what ip address they're using and even what services they are advertising running so you can tell if it's a computer or a printer for example that's that's cool i didn't know about this at all yeah i you know we had mentioned flame on the show i think someone sent it in as a cool stuff found years ago.
Uh but i obviously completely forgot about it but yeah yeah yeah yeah that's uh i mean i i knew the bonjour part i know the bonjour the whole thing but i did not know there was an app that would display this it's funny that that's not even just built in somewhere i mean maybe it is it's probably look up a bully and i would assume system information maybe yeah yeah that's fair yeah yeah yeah yeah i could see that i think so i think you would think so but who knows i don't want to to
launch it my my max cpu has been freaking out right we've been doing this this morning chrome is i don't know why but it it is so there you go but uh maybe i'm maybe i'm asking too much i don't feel like i'm asking too much of my computer but perhaps i am you'd think i'm just doing a podcast um yeah but yeah flame yeah yeah good stuff i yeah i wonder i wonder if there's there's an Apple developer tool or something, you know, is there something in Xcode that would do this too?
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, where are we on time? I, uh, well, I will, I will share maybe, maybe this is part of my issue here, but I, I like to, when we're, when I'm at home in the studio, I have, I've mentioned that I have an all digital setup. I mean, it's analog. My voice is analog. So obviously there's analog and so are my ears. But my mixer that I use as we're doing the podcast live is actually Logic, Apple's audio recording suite.
And Logic is not meant to be used as a mixer, but it can be. It's a little wonky to do it that way. And it requires me to use aggregate audio devices and those things that, you know, Apple has not done so well with, at least in the way that we're using them, causing some occasional car core audio hiccups and those sorts of things. And as I was planning for this trip, I thought, you know, I can just use my normal setup, which only uses audio hijack. And I say only audio hijacks, fantastic tool.
But i like to have an external interface to control the audio so that it like when we're playing a comment or the the music or if one of us gets too loud or too soft i can just go grab a, physical fader and adjust it in real time i don't need to dig through four windows to find you know where i can click my mouse to slide the the volume adjustment and so i have one of these that's portable that i've had for years and it's called it's the korg nano control studio and it is you
can plug it in usb you can plug it in bluetooth it's very lightweight it's flat it's perfect like it is built for travel it's exactly what i want so i threw that in my bag and i I thought, all right, let me, you know, if I have a moment, I'll mess with it. So it turns out I had a moment. And so I started thinking about, you know, what can I do here? Uh, do I, do I really want to use logic again? And I thought, you know, this is kind of ridiculous.
There should be, what is there an app for the Mac that turns my Mac just into a mixer. I don't need all of logic. I don't need it to do recording because I actually want to use audio hijack for the recording for various reasons. I just want to mix things, send it to somewhere and record there or do whatever I want with it. And it would be an extra bonus if I didn't have to use an aggregate audio device to pull all of my things together.
Like with with logic, logic sees one input device and one output device. I don't have just one. I have you guys on a virtual device. I have me on a hardware device because it's a microphone. I, you know, I have the, the theme music on another, you know, virtual device. And so I have to use an aggregate device to pull them all into one. Wouldn't it be great if it's totally possible? An audio hijack can do this.
The one thing audio hijack cannot currently do is support a control interface, with MIDI to, to, you know, control faders. I'm like, all right, has someone cracked this egg? And, and, It turns out the answer is yes. There's a piece of software from the folks at Loud Lab called Sound Desk that is built to do exactly what I described. Nothing more and nothing less. And it's super configurable. It really didn't take me much time at all. It's a $40 app.
And it is what I have used to mix this show today. So I know our sound is different today because I'm in a hotel and all of that stuff. But I'm excited about the possibilities and I can put effects in the, in the chain, just like you can with logic. I can route things any way I want. It's really flexible and customizable. And obviously it works with my control surface. And so I can, you know, control things and all that good stuff. So I'm excited about the potential for the future.
And assuming you folks are hearing this episode, then it worked. So, yeah, that is, that is super cool. And 40 bucks.
I mean, what a deal. i know yeah they they need to charge more for it i would think you know but uh yeah yeah so i'm stoked it it seems to work maybe however maybe that's part of my cpu issues maybe maybe sound desk uses more cpu than logic did i don't know i gotta that part i need to dig into so it seems like it's chrome that's kind of chrome and safari actually i think i think actually some of the windows that i had open in safari like for the i think the brain audio had some active
things happening in javascript that might have been causing issues i don't know so yeah.
That's what i got to see papa to tennessee papa in discord chat says what about loopback do you want to kind of yeah yeah this because i think it's a little bit different yeah loopback is is is um very much part of my workflow loopback is an app from audio hijack that creates, virtual audio devices so when i mentioned that i have you guys coming in on a virtual audio device or i have my you know the theme music coming in on another virtual audio device those are loopback devices
so you go into loopback you tell it create a device and then it it creates an audio device It can be a pass-through device. You can send audio to it from one app and have it output to another. Or it can be a capture device or both, but a capture device saying, let me point it at that app and grab that app's audio and turn it into a device.
And when I say a device, I mean, this shows up in system settings, uh, sound as either an input or an output device or both, depending on how you create it in loopback. So that is still, I'm using that very much here, uh, to, to, to route into and out of sound desk. Now sound desk has its own, uh, loopback ish.
Component to it that uh i haven't dug into but i did notice it as i was pulling this together i was like well i already have all my loopback devices set up so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna reinvent that particular wheel for this but but yes they have that too which was which is really i was it warmed the cockles of my heart when i saw that because it means that audio that you know audio hijack and and loopback and those tools that we podcasters so heavily
rely upon from rogue amoeba it means they have competition and that's a great thing for us i think it's a great thing for rogue amoeba and for loud lab too right like they having competition validates the market it it means that we're not stuck with if if one company chooses to stop developing a product we're not like oh no please don't you know it's like well i'm i wish you wouldn't but there is another option right so yeah anyway so yeah yeah
so the big difference here is you know loopback's not going to do the mixing part it's doing the input output part and you wanted something to allow you to control each one of those things individually in real time sliders and with yeah in real time correct so and and there's a world where audio hijack could do Well, Loopback plus Audio Hijack could do all of this. And that's how I record episodes on the road up until this particular one.
It's just that Audio Hijack doesn't support the external control surface. So I can have little sliders in there. It has like the ability to be a mixer function.
I have to go and dig and like you know slide my mouse around a great yeah it's not the interface isn't optimized for that bill that's exactly right it's not optimized for that but sound lab sound desk certainly is yeah yeah yeah yeah cool i know all right yeah i'm uh i'm stoked about it um i'm eager to uh i'm eager well now i get to since the the show is about to uh to end i get get to fade the band in all by just sliding the fader look at that yep there they come love it i love it thanks
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