If you're finding that that person cannot will not have the conversation about the progression, about when you might start thinking or looking at those things, if they can't have those conversations, something is going wrong.
Hey everyone, welcome back to the channel. I am Matthew Hussey, a coach specializing in confidence and relational intelligence, who for the last 17 years has been helping people find love, and the author of the New York Times bestseller Love Life Check it out, and in today's video, I give my honest advice for the very real challenge that is faced by so many single women who feel that they are running out of time for one of their major life goals to have a family.
The way that I want to talk about this topic is in a series of six practical steps that I outlined today, and these steps were actually a response to a real question that I got from one of my Love Life Club members, Mariam, who asked me a question about the tension she felt in dating, knowing that she wants a family and she wants one soon, but not wanting to make bad choices. So I gave her six practical steps that I know are going to relate to you to if you're in her
position or one like it. All right, on to Mariam's question. I wanted to share my Love Life story to get a different perspective from the stories I have created in my head. Smart. We all do that, don't we? Create stories in our head. I am a 38-year-old woman who has never been married and has no kids. I have dedicated the last 15 years to working on getting established in the US, learning the language, completing college, getting positioned in a
good job after coming from Malaysia. All of that is done, and I'm proud of my accomplishments, but I shut down my Love Life for several years. My thought was that will eventually happen. It will come, and here I am now thinking it should have come already. I want a family, but the biological clock is messing up my brain, and I don't want to make the mistake of choosing the wrong person because I am close to being 40. For some reason, I'm starting to be attracted
to younger men. I'm talking about five to six years younger, and I have never dated someone that young. Help. So I'm going to take this in steps. The first step is to be clear with yourself about what your path is. Now, it sounds like Mariam, to a large extent, has already done that. She has communicated that what she wants is to have a serious relationship and to start a family, but it's really important to be clear with ourselves about the level of priority that's at for us,
because if we don't, then we suddenly could come across someone we're very attracted to. The fact that we're very attracted to them and we have a great connection with them can make us forget all about these goals we have, and figuring out whether that person has any of the same intentions we do.
I always am quick to point out when someone in Mariam's situation, let's say goes even younger, let's say someone in Mariam's situation finds that she's out one evening and meets her 24-year-old, and that 24-year-old is fun and charming and sexy, and they hit it off and they start dating.
I'm always quick to point out that that is a very, very dangerous game that Mariam, or someone in her position, would be playing in getting swept up in how she feels about someone and ignoring this goal that she has had for a very long time that in a much calmer, more objective moment, had surfaced as a priority at this stage of her life. So for anyone out there in Mariam's position, be clear with yourself right now. What is my priority? Not just what do I want, but what's the
order of importance? I might want attraction with someone today so that I can have a great weekend this weekend seeing someone I like, but a bigger priority it could be, and I'm assuming for Mariam, this is true, is finding someone who has the same goals as I do in the area of having a serious relationship and starting a family. That doesn't automatically mean that if Mariam gets attracted to
someone five years younger, that's a problem, right? That's not the biggest age gap in the world, but it does mean that she has to pay attention to the very real challenges that can come from even a five-year age gap when someone is a few years behind her, even if they want children, is a few years behind her in wanting the same thing because for her, those few years matter. Step two, know your options. Of course, one option is that you go out, you meet the love of your life
and you have a family with them, but is there an option B? Have you been clear about whether you're prepared to not only make peace with option B, but be aggressive about making option B happen if your life calls for it? In Mariam's case, she's 38. At what point does she decide, you know what, having a family is so important to me that I actually might consider doing this by myself. Now it may be the case that Mariam never wants to do that, and that's fine too. None of this is
prescriptive, it's all personal. These are intensely, necessarily personal choices, but it's important for Mariam to actually come to terms with whether that is an option for her. And the reason I say that is because those options create a sense of power, a sense of autonomy,
a sense of confidence, and they are a pressure valve. What it allows Mariam to do is date, always knowing in the back of her mind that if someone isn't right, she has a plan B that she can go to at any time if she really wants to, or that there is an age by which she says, enough is enough, I haven't met my person yet, I'm going to do this because I really want to do this. So getting clear about what your options are can create a true sense of empowerment.
And part of that conversation for so many women, though not all, because it's not available or possible for all is egg freezing. So I would encourage Mariam, if you haven't already, to at least have that conversation with a fertility doctor to look into whether it's something that's possible for you, I say that knowing full well that it is cost prohibitive for many people, not available for some in the part of the world that they're in. And for many people, it's simply too complex and too
invasive a procedure for them to want to go through with. Not to mention that egg freezing is by no means a guarantee when the time actually comes to use those eggs. So the calculation on whether to do egg freezing is for many people, raise a thin, but that doesn't mean that it's not a conversation worth having for someone in Mariam's position, or for you, even if you're a few years behind Mariam in your position. Those are not conversations that I am an expert in, but they are conversations
that your fertility doctor is an expert in. And I encourage those conversations because those conversations are power. And like we've been talking about, they remind us of our options. And options are power over your own circumstances. Now you'll notice that steps one and step two are both steps that you take before you've even met someone that you like. Now let's talk about what
you do when you do meet someone you like. And of course, for many people, especially those who are running out of time to biologically have their own children who really have this as a major life goal. Maybe the major life goal at this stage in their lives, meeting someone they like can feel incredibly disempowering because instead of just being able to organically get to know someone, they feel like they're bringing this baggage. Not that it really is baggage, but it feels for so
many like baggage of I have this big thing that I want and you hold the keys to it. And I have to somehow go through this fun playful attraction that's carefree and nonchalant and enjoyable at the same time as having this deep, desperate urge to move quickly on something that's window is rapidly closing. That leaves many in what feels like an impossible situation. Now the whole point of steps
one and two is to actually start to take some pressure off of that. That if we know what our choices are, that if we get clear about our goal and you create the options for yourself ahead of time, then you no longer do feel like you are solely relying on this person to make that dream come true. So let's talk about from hopefully a slightly more relaxed place, what to do when you meet someone you like. Step three, communicate to that person where you are in your life. That means we have to
be brave enough to actually communicate our goals to someone. The big question is when, right? Because it feels like if I do that too soon, I'm going to scare someone away. If I do it too late, I run the risk of wasting tons of my time when I don't have that time to waste. But I like to think of this, not in terms of when is the right time to say it, because I actually think that's a red herring. What it does is it suggests that this goal that we have is baggage, like we're revealing something
dark and scary and ominous, instead of just talking about a goal that we're excited about. I like to think of the example of if you had a dream to start a flower shop in the next three to four years, you wouldn't feel embarrassed or shameful or scared to bring up the fact that you're really excited to start a flower shop and you have a very clear intention to do so. It would just be one of the goals in your life that you're excited about. I want to challenge you to get married
or having children in the same category as the flower shop. Now I know it feels different in that situation because it feels like, well, yeah, but with the flower shop, I'm not asking them to co-sign on the flower shop and dedicate their time and resources and life savings to doing it. And it's the fact that when it comes to marriage and children, I am asking them to co-sign on these really big things that makes me feel like I have the potential to scare them off with this conversation.
I get that. But what if we reconnected with that optionality that we talked about in step two, knowing what your options are? And that allowed you to talk about the fact that you want to get married or you want to have kids in a much more similar way to the flower shop. In other words, you told yourself, I, this is not a bad thing. Let me remind myself of that. This is a beautiful thing that I want to do. And right now, the fact that I want to do it actually has nothing to do with
this person, especially on date one or two or three. It has everything to do with me and my future. And by the way, I know in my mind that I would not do this with the wrong person. You have to know that in your mind. Because if you know that in your mind, it will come across when you speak to that person and that will be power. I'll show you how in just a moment. But that you wouldn't do
it with the wrong person. And at the end of the day, if this is true, I'm only speaking to the people this is true for, but at the end of the day, if you've decided that at some point, you're going to call time on doing this with another person and be prepared to do it on your own, then that's yet another source of power when you speak to someone about the flower shop that I'm doing this with or without a person. So this really genuinely has nothing to do with you
in front of me right now. So what I encourage you to do is instead of trying to think of the perfect moment to say all of this, think of it like the right moment to say these things is when we're just talking about what we're excited about in life. So you could ask me what I'm excited about or
you know, what's on the horizon for me. And I say, you know, I've spent many years of my life. Now 15 years of my life, you know, securing my place here in the United States, which was a dream of my own, and you know, working to learn language and getting myself to a very secure place financially, where I feel like I have a good job and my life is settled. And you know, that didn't allow a lot of time for me to think about a relationship, let alone, you know, a very serious relationship.
And it didn't allow me a lot of time to think about my ultimate goal of having a family, which is something that really excites me. So I'm now at a place in my life where alongside some of the other things that I'm excited about in life, I am really excited for the next chapter of my life, which for me is about taking the next steps in the next few years to having that family and to hopefully finding an amazing person to do it with. But you know, I know I also know for me doing it
with the wrong person is something I would never do. You know, it's something I'm excited about and it's a beautiful vision I have, but I would never do it with the wrong person. It would have to be the right person. And if it wasn't, I would do it on my own because it's something that's just really important to me. Now, when you're saying all of that, you're talking about it in a very
positive way. You're not talking about it as this big, heavy thing. I actually think that Maryam's story that she told when I was reading her question about how she moved to America and learned the language and worked really hard to get where she is and hasn't had the time or the bandwidth to think about having a family, I found all of that really endearing when I read it. I don't know about you. When I read it, I was like, wow, that's really endearing. You know, she was
having to do other things. And now she's in a place where she is ready for this. There's something very beautiful about that. So she shouldn't be ashamed of that. I actually think her story is part of the way she should frame it and talk about it when she's speaking to someone on a date. Now, once you've talked about the flower shop, you know, your goal of getting married or having children as an exciting next chapter of your life, there's something you can do in step four,
which is really, really powerful. Step four is demonstrate non-dependence. And the way that you do that is by taking the optionality that you had created in step two and finding a way to casually communicate that optionality in the way that you talk about this goal. So for example, after you've talked about the fact that you're excited about that chapter of your life, you can say, but one thing I know about myself is that I would never do that. Any of that, you know, marriage or kids with the
wrong person. You know, you can even frame it up by talking about other people you know, you know, I know people, I have friends who I know have rushed into things because they really wanted it to happen, but you know, they did it with the wrong person and there's something I could never do. You know, I made the decision a long time ago that if I didn't meet the right person, I either wouldn't do it if that's true or I would do it on my own if that's true.
When you say all of this, you take away that effect that a lot of people are worried about, that they're giving up their power when they state this goal. As if they're saying to someone, you can now do no wrong because I really need you for this thing. Instead, what you're saying to
someone is, I don't need you for this thing. I may want or even need this thing in my future, but I don't need you for that thing because if you turn out to be the wrong person, I'll find someone who's right or I won't need someone at all, I'll do it by myself. What you're in essence saying to someone is, you can mess this up because I don't need you. You still have to win me over. In the same way that I have to win you over. This is still just
two people on the same level dating. It is not that now I've stated this goal, I have handed you all of the cards. Now, in this stage where you're just enjoyably sharing goals, you don't need to know for sure if they're exactly on the same page as you. I'm bearing in mind, being on the same page as you does mean that they have the same goals, but they have the same goals and the same timeline. It's entirely possible that Maryam meets someone who's six years younger than her once
kids one day, but doesn't want them in the next four years in the way that she does. It's not just about whether they're the same goals, it's do they have the same goals on the same timeline. So step five is when it starts to get serious, then we have to get clear about whether they have the same goals on the same timeline. Even if in the first few dates, they dance around the subject of what they were looking for in the next few years and you kind of let that slide because you
were like, hey, we're in the fun, get to know each other stage. I don't need to know everything about this person's timeline right now. At the point of spending lots and lots of time together, at the point of I'm now seeing this person to the exclusion of everyone else, at the point of agreeing on exclusivity, you and I are in a committed serious relationship. I do need to know whether this person is on the same page as me. And that conversation can go something like, hey,
I know that you and I have a really good thing going. I am so enjoying what's developing between us. I am excited about the prospect of giving it a real try with each other, but I also don't know whether my goals and my timeline for those goals is something that you see for yourself. And I'm not suggesting that this is a tomorrow thing for me, but it is a, in the next two or three
years thing for me because that's the timeline that I'm on. And that doesn't mean, by the way, that, you know, you couldn't turn out to be wrong from me a year from now or I couldn't turn out to be wrong for you a year from now. That's just normal. That's relationships. You know, we're still getting to know each other. But if it works, then I know that that's going to be something that's important to me in that timeframe. And I know that no matter how much I like you, I wouldn't be
getting into anything serious if you were on the same page as me in that department. So what you are allowing for in this conversation is a complete and utter transparency. But B, you're still not putting that pressure on this. This isn't that traditional kind of pressure of I like you and I want children with you and you're going to want them because I want them with you, which makes someone go, ah, we're just getting started. And I'm already feeling like I have to make a decision
about having kids with you. This isn't that. This is that I am on a certain timeline for when I want these things. You and I are still getting to know each other and there's still room for us to decide that we're not right for each other. But if it continues and if it works, it I would need to know that you could see that for yourself on the same timeline. All right, so you're removing the forced pressure of you and I are going to do this together.
But you are introducing a standard that you have for who you choose to have a relationship with, which is that if someone's not on the same page as me, I just wouldn't bother having a relationship with them no matter how wonderful and sexy and attractive they were or how much fun I had with them, all of which is true for you by the way. I cannot stress enough how important this is as a standard. Not a wish that they want the same things as me, but a standard.
So many women have a standard for how attracted they want to be to someone, for how much of a connection they want to feel for the chemistry that they want to experience, but they don't have a standard for having aligned goals and intentions. So we have to start to raise our standard in this area. I can still have a standard for attraction, but I better couple it with a standard for someone who has the same goals and intentions as me, or all I am doing is acting as a co-conspirator in the
theft of my own future. Step six, our final step for this video. Be honest with yourself about whether there is the appropriate level of progress within the relationship as time goes on.
If you're two years into dating this person who you're only dating because in the beginning, they made clear when it was becoming serious and exclusive that they did have the same intentions as you on the same timeline, if you're finding that that person cannot, will not have the conversation about the progression, about when you might start thinking or looking at those
things. If they can't have those conversations, something is going wrong. There is a level of squeamishness from their side that might be able to be tolerated in a relationship where two people have all the time in the world, but can't be tolerated by you in a situation that is predicated for you on the two of you being on the same page. Don't have the conversation once at the beginning of the relationship and then bury it because you're afraid to have it again in case it sabotages
the relationship. That's a good reason to sabotage the relationship. That doesn't mean it has to be brought up every single day, but if after a year you start talking about those things and maybe that person says, I'm really excited about it. I just need a little bit more time, but I
am with you. I want the same things. If you talk about it six months after that and nothing is shifting for them, they just keep acting afraid to have the conversation and make you feel like you're treading on eggshells, then that is a sure sign as any that you are not on the same page. Because anyone who has a natural intentionality on the same timeline as you doesn't make you feel afraid to have a conversation about something. The conversation is easy, it's fluid, it's transparent,
it's more of a planning conversation than a, oh, you're bringing up the war conversation. You have to be willing to have the conversation and then be honest with yourself about whether there is a sense of progression. If there's not, never be afraid to stop the relationship. Never be afraid to walk away while there's still time. There's a great, what's that Mr. Rogers quote where he says, I can stop. I really want to find that quote. Let me see if I can find this right now.
So this is what Mr. Rogers said. It was actually a song, but he said, it's great to be able to stop when you've planned a thing that's wrong and be able to do something else instead and think this song. I can stop when I want to, can stop when I wish, I can stop, stop, stop, anytime. And what a good feeling to feel like this and know that the feeling is really mine. Know that there's something deep inside that helps us become what we can. For a girl can be
someday a woman and a boy can be someday a man. Know that there is a feeling deep inside you that is not going away. That is an expression of who you are and what you want in your life. And if the person you're in a relationship with isn't having the same feeling, you can stop. You can change direction. You do not need to stay in a relationship that you've sunk time and energy into just because of the so-called sunk cost fallacy that I need to make good the investment
that I've already made. If you know it's wrong, if you're feeling your gut that this person is not going to get there with you, you can take that feeling that you have and leave that relationship and use that feeling to express your full self, to self-actualize and achieve and create everything that you always wanted. It would mean the world to me for you to help me reach more people with
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