Thank you . You can tackle a nine state Poda Robe Well , how about nine New England States ? We're getting our first impressions from Jason and Kyle on their take on what it's like to Poda in New England . Hello and welcome to the Live Free in Ham podcast . It's our bi-weekly show where we explore Hammerio topics in New Hampshire , new England and beyond .
Whether you're a regular listener or first-time guest , we're excited to have you here and appreciate your support , don't we ever ? Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode . But before we get into today's show , I'm your host , eric call sign N1JUR , and I'm here with my co-host .
Ryan W1SNH . Todd .
W1STJ and we got two special guests .
Jason KC5HWB Kyle A0Z .
All right , guys , great to have you on , all right . Well , hey , before we start the show discussion , we always like to catch up and let our listeners know what's going on . This month's live stream is coming up , so we're going to go casual style and do a roundtable .
Topic is currently up in the air , but definitely make sure you tune in and subscribe to the channel and hit that bell so you never miss the show . And , as always , as we start off every show , what's been going on with Ham Radio this week ? How about you , ryan ?
Yeah , well , I'm happy report . I came home today from work and put aside all my house projects and focused on getting the new flex hooked up , so as of about 45 minutes ago , I got it operational . Spent the afternoon crimping some coax , got some RJ45s crimped , and it's very nice radio , so I'm really enjoying it .
Got a lot to learn here , so keep plugging away . I got one of the 8x2 and 10-it switches so I still got to get that wired up and it's just a big learning curve but it'll be fun , so really looking forward to it .
Yeah , very much so . It is . We all can contest in some level . It's definitely away from the knobs and turning the VFO to clicking the mouse .
Yeah , for sure I must have pulled out I don't know how many extra cables . I mean . Those just went away . It was great .
Simple title Heck of a lot of stuff , for sure . Cool , All right . Well , hey , how about you Todd what's been going on ?
Nothing much . My biggest thing was I couldn't use my flex remotely for whatever reason , got a lot of trying to figure out what was wrong with it . I still don't know what the problem was , but whatever I did , I fixed the whole problem . I finally got it on my iPad and then I couldn't get it on my iPhone .
I thought , well , maybe it's the new iPhone , the 15 Plus . So I said , yeah , maybe it's something in the hardware . They haven't fixed it . And then all of a sudden it just worked the next day . So I was pretty happy to be back using it remotely . So I'm just basically about it .
You doing still sideband stuff .
Yeah , just doing the sideband stuff when I'm doing the third shift overnight .
Very cool , all right , well , hey , before I chime in here . So , jason , obviously we'll give you the floor first . What's been going on in your hand this week ?
This week I'm trying to play catch up , really this week . I've been out of town for the last three weekends and my wife and I were .
We went to do a poda last week and then we went to see a high school college football game some football game somewhere , and before that I was in an RV radio show and I just had a really full month for the month of October of being out of town .
So this week I've been playing catch up around the house , putting stuff together , getting some more videos recorded here in the shack . I've actually redesigned my whole . Well , I've I'm 50 , 60% of the way through , redesigning the whole shack .
You can't see it because everything I did was over there , but in front , behind the camera in case in case somebody can't see that right now or listen on audio . But I got a couple of things upcoming . Hunting season starts in Texas in about two , three weekends and it's totally . We have about 175 acres out in the country . That's totally off grid .
There's no water , no running water , no electricity , no nothing . So I have fun making off grid solar battery and ham radio videos while I'm out there . So I've already got three or four in the works for that . So it should be a fun month next month , but just just cleaning up around the house right now .
Very cool Now . So my dying question is is you said the wife was with you on Poda . Does she actually do Poda or does she just stare at you and rollerize ?
She has not done Poda yet . She said she wanted to . She does have a general class license . She got her general upgrade maybe a year and a half ago , something like that , so she does want to do it . She hunted a station when we were all at Huntsville last August for the Ham . Fest .
We sat up in the pavilion and did a Poda activation , so she hunted one station , but she uses her VHF UHF radio , but she hadn't done any HF really yet , so I'm looking forward to getting her on the mic and trying that out .
Yeah , very cool , very cool , Awesome . Well , hey over to you , kyle . So what's been your ham week like ?
Yeah , it's been busy . First Whiskey One , alpha Whiskey Stroke Zero was our volunteer on the air week for Missouri , so I got on a couple of times on 20 and 40 meters and made I don't know 350 , 400 contacts on that Nice Side band or CW . Mostly we're a side band . I did a few CW .
It's just running CW as Whiskey One Alpha Whiskey is like shooting yourself in the foot , like you are be ready for the pileup . And it is a lot easier to run side band than it is CW .
So I decided you know what , both times I ran that station I was after work , I had had long days at work and I'm just like I am just not ready to hear all the beeps and the bloops you know and just everyone zero beating me . I just I was not interested in any of that , so side band it was .
So I got on the air a few times , got some slots in and put some cues in the books . Last weekend was a big QSO party weekend . It was Nevada , south Dakota , washington , arizona , and I forget the other one that was Nebraska , maybe I can't remember , but then also it was the Solar Eclipse QSO party .
So I went out with a bunch of friends to Apota Park , robinson State Park here in Missouri , and we activated from I don't know 9am to in the morning until about 3pm in the afternoon and then came home and , yeah , chilled out for the rest of the weekend .
This weekend is actually this is going to air afterwards but Illinois QSO party is Sunday and if you know anything about geography , hopefully you know that Illinois borders Missouri , so I roll over there and from noon until 8pm Illinois QSO party goes on .
But I am actually driving to Indiana , driving through Illinois and doing the QSO party and driving to Indiana to put a down payment on an RV on .
Monday morning , oh my okay .
So , and on my way back , I bought a Elecraf KPA 500 amplifier and I am picking that up from one of my Society Midwest Contestors people that sold it to me . So I am picking that up on the way back . So I have got a very jam packed weekend and week putting that at the remote station and figuring out what I am going to do with my RV .
So you are going to fully automate that and you know you keep it , of course . Okay , that was expected .
It is going to have . So you know it is going to have APRS . I am going to run Node-RED on it . It is going to be fully , just all decked out . I am going to make sure Mike can hear it from Texas , Right right , I mean I am talking about the RV and the amplifier , so the RV itself .
you pull in a travel trailer , you got a full , you know , mobile home RV . No , no , pull behind . Okay , all right , cool , nice . So Jason is basically lured you towards the dark side there , and you know .
Well , yeah , I mean , I have always been in , I have always wanted an RV , and it has gotten to the point where it is pooper , get off the pot right .
And Jason and I always go to the More Expo which is down in Springfield , and we have been talking about going to a bunch of overlanding shows and there is a hiker trailer the trailer that I am going to buy and they really stood out as being family owned and good quality and some of these overland trailers the prices are through a roof .
They are ridiculous .
They are ridiculous .
So I can literally get and save about $5,000 or $7,000 and get everything that the big boys have , but get it cheaper because they start out at , like you know , the one that I want to get starts out at $14,000 .
That is reasonable .
Yeah , yeah . If you got an overlanding trailer from some of these guys that you know they are literally going into the depths of Utah and not seeing each other for years on end . Months , yeah , months on end , and they start out at $35,000 .
Oh yeah , yeah , that is base . That is not like with the hard tops or any of the amenities too . Right Seeing the charge form .
Right , yeah , I'm going to . This is my first forte into , you know , stepping up from tent camping and actually having sidewalls , you know , and actually being protected from the bears in Colorado .
It will be a game changer , for sure .
Yellowstone yeah , so we're all going to Yellowstone next July and obviously I'm going to take the Barbie .
You can also tow it if you go to Arcadia up that way too , so you know it's a benefit . Yeah , great in Arcadia , for sure .
Of course yeah .
Well , wow , yeah , so interesting . So no , no , maybe possible side channel , like Jason doing overlanding .
Yeah , I mean I am , I'm going to put together . You know , my first video was me driving to Indiana and actually going to the , to the warehouse and picking it out and doing all the things that you do . So that will be the first video . Will I do an overlanding channel ? Well , will I do , like you know , continually overland stuff ?
Probably not , because I've got a way too busy schedule to go out like every single weekend and do stuff . I'll put videos up whenever I can , but ham radio channel is my main focus there . Got it ? Yeah , cool , awesome .
And I'll , I'll be going to Vermont on Friday . Oh oh yeah , that's right , you're still , that's right .
Yeah , just a . Yeah . I'm just jumping across the river on my way . I have one visit in the morning in New Hampshire . I have another visit in New Hampshire but the way to get to it you got to go through Vermont . So there's a nice park sitting there . So I figured I got a couple hours of kills . So I haven't done an activation in a while .
So I figured it's going to be good weather and going to Vermont's a good state , because everyone wants Vermont . So even if the bands aren't too happening , you get a lot of . You know , you pick up a lot of .
I mean , you guys made a bullet for drummer , didn't you guys with that ?
Yeah , dumber , dumber , dumber , dumber , dumber .
Everyone here is now dumber for having listened to .
Well , you know , so is the guy who got the fort named after himself .
So but , All right , yeah , that was a good park . Yeah , yeah , that was a good park .
So , kyle and Jason , you know the , the landscape and the train out in Texas and in the Midwest , it's , you know , it's not . It's not Montana big sky country , but it's .
You know , wide open terrain and vast areas compared to New England where you got a lot of small , tight , rolling hills and a lot more vegetation and trees and everything as you guys were sneaking through New England . How did you adapt to that ? Were you swapping out different antennas or did you have to change anything compared to putting back home ?
So it wasn't . It wasn't .
It was different in the sense of I knew that when we got into the hills a little bit west of where we were activating , especially in Vermont and a little bit of New Hampshire , you know , I don't know what mountain ranges those are , but I definitely whenever we got to Vermont , I switched over to 40 meters Because I know from whenever James K-E8-PZN , whenever I
went out to West Virginia , we tried 20 meters in the hills of West Virginia and it was a no-no-go , like we just couldn't raise anybody because we just weren't getting out and the angle of takeoff wasn't , you know , was very low and we were just running into mountains .
So whenever I got to Vermont , I knew that , even if I was , you know , using 20 meters at all the other parks , which you know I primarily did I switched over to 40 meters and made sure that , you know , I put that 40 meter antenna low to the ground so I'd get a little bit of envus and sure enough , like you know , I worked .
Probably I was one of my better parks . I probably worked 40 or 50 cusos and they were all within the New England area . I think my farthest cuso that I made , I think , was Ohio .
And he was on CW most of the time , as you guys probably know , right . But , you know what ? I didn't really notice much other than just like what band is up and down right now , which is what you look for every time you go out to Poda at all .
Right .
So I did notice that Vermont is a highly sought after state . Apparently , either Vermont is hard to get or there's just not many people who Poda in Vermont .
That is true , there's very few hams per capita in the state of Vermont . So , yeah , you get that going for you .
So you know , and when I get to North Dakota I'm always excited to get North Dakota when I'm out on a Poda and I get somebody calling back from North Dakota .
That's just how he got into North Dakota . You're still struggling for yours , yeah .
Yeah , yeah , but you know the only I mean Kyle's not wrong , but the only thing I really noticed working side band mostly I did a little bit of , I think I did a little bit of FTA , but I didn't do any CW obviously .
But we got to the Fort Dumber State Park and that was the one in Vermont , right , Kyle , yeah yeah , we got to that one earlier in the day than we got to any other park . It was about 9.15 in the morning when I had my antenna set up and radio turned on and started calling CQ .
So we got there at like 8 or 8.30 , something like that , and people had been asking us get on 40 meters . We want to work , you guys , you know people in the area had been saying , hey , get on 40 meters . So I worked a lot of New England that morning as well on 40 meters because the band hadn't died yet .
I talked to Izzo and he said the band usually dies around 12 or 1230 in the , around noon or something like that . The 40 meter band , I should say Right , and that coincides with Texas . It usually dies around 11 am in Texas . Then I'll open back up around 4 or something like that on a regular day .
So I wanted to get some 40 meter in and I probably made 60 or so contacts that morning and then I switched to 20 and made a lot more contacts , but for me it was more just like what time of day is it and if ? And I'll tell you right now , I don't like to pote on 20 meters because it's too easy .
Why ? So I'm curious because I hear like both sides of the fence of like , yeah , 20 meters is my go-to band every time and you know , that's where I stay all the time , Right ? Why ?
I mean it's too easy . I mean there's , there's , there's always people there . You're always going to be able to activate on 20 meters , okay , I mean , unless there's something really weird going on , you're always . I like to try 10 or 15 meters , 17 meters , 12 meters . I did 12 meters one time . That was unusual . It's unusual for 12 meters to be open .
I like 40 meters . I've done some 80 meters but it's been a long time . And 10 depending on where you're set up . So a lot of times you don't have a room to pick up an 80 meter infant halfway , right , but . But for me it was just what time are we acting ? You know , because that was the first park we did that day .
I think we did three parks that day .
Yeah .
And , and by the time we got to the third park it was middle afternoon , so we just started on 20 meters and went for it . So you know , for me it's just , it's just . Hey , what time of day is it , and is anything besides 20 open ?
If so , I try that , and then I'll usually go to 20 meters after I've tried the other bands , because you know you're going to . Even if I've made 10 or 15 or 20 contacts and I'm activated , I usually go to 20 meters because I'm just like well , there's just more people here , more people have an antenna . I suspect more people have an antenna for 20 meters .
A lot of people don't have an antenna for 10 or 12 or 17 meters . So so it's easier to make contacts and I like to get you know people like to hunt as much as activate . I want to give the hunters a chance as well .
Yeah , I'm the same way . I like to start off on another band and then go to 20 as my backup . I think my favorite band is for me recently has just been 10 meters . I'll start off on 10 to see where I got , to see if I get anything and , like you said , I get a lot of hunters in a row . Thanks for activating 10 . Thanks for activating 10 .
So you get those in and then you know , if I don't get enough of them or you know it's starting to die down , I'll switch over to 20 , and it's like starting all over again and you just get the pile up . So yeah , that's pretty much how I've been doing it .
I like to do that with 10 . If 10 is open , I will start on 10 . If it's not , I usually start on 15 . Right , because with a 40 meter in fed halfway you can do 10 , 15 , 20 and 40 . Right , and with no tuner , and you know . So I try to take advantage of all of those bands .
I don't , I don't try 40 if it's middle of the day , but like us , like Kyle was saying , I mean that Vermont State Park was first thing in the morning . So I'm like , hey , let's try it . And I did really well . So , and you know , see , a sideband is the I probably catch hold for this Sideband is harder to activate than it is to activate than it is .
It's harder . Let me , let me rephrase it's harder to make contacts on sideband than it is on CW or FT8 .
Okay .
Because of propagates , just because of the low noise feature of it . You got to have a lot more . I say a lot more . I was running 100 Watts the whole time because life is too short for QRP . But it's sorry , kyle , but but Kyle did very well running CW and we had planned this before that . We went on the trip .
He was running his KX3 with 15 Watts most of the time on CW and he made a lot of contacts . So you know it works out . It worked out for both of us to run the way we were both running .
Yeah . So like in terms of like , when you guys did , obviously , the activations in New England , you guys find that you know it was in your plan . You were like , hey , I'm just going to start on the you know 15 and 12 and start there .
Or were you just like , okay , like you said , you know , because of the timeframe and you know your schedule and stuff like that , you just kind of target the two big bands and just went that way .
I went where Jason was not blowing me out at .
Did Jason ever turn down his cure ?
There were a couple of parks where everywhere I went there was . So I had to strategically figure out where I needed to go to not hear Jason and , kind of like you know , go as far away as possible . But 30 meters was my haven .
Okay , that was my .
My all right . Yeah , jason's on 15 . I'm going to go to 30 . If I was on 40 and Jason was on 20 , I heard him a little bit . You know not much . But if I was on 40 and he was on 15 , get out of it , you're done . You're done .
Yeah , yeah , those two .
And whatever . We activated the high high point state park , which was in New Jersey . I sat at a picnic bench , probably 50 feet from Jason , and I could tell that he was on the higher bands because I activated on 30 and I didn't hear him and he was on 10 . I went over and I found out that he was on 10 . He was running 10 and he was .
There was an opening into Europe and so he was doing 10 and I literally ran the bands . I went to 15 , I went to 30 , I went to 20 , and then I went to 40 . And then , as soon as he came back down , I could hear him and then I went to 10 . Okay , and I worked a bunch of German stations the leapfrog , yeah .
So I would literally figure out where he was at and try and figure out . All right , what band do I need to go to now to make sure that he's not blowing me out ? And there was a couple of times where I just pushed through it . I'm going to call CQ and I'm going to be able to hear the dits and the does , and it is what it is .
Now .
So when you guys obviously you went through nine different states , so like , did you find that , like every park was just a different challenge every time , or did you find that , like most of the New England parks were pretty much catered to picnic benches and nice green spaces and that type of stuff or any of those weird challenges you guys run into in any of
the nine states , you did activate .
I think the only park that we had an issue , where we had to stand the whole time , was that New York yeah , that New York forest .
State forest , and it was just like at the end of the very Huckleberry Huckleberry . Huckleberry , Huckleberry , Huckleberry State Forest . Yeah , it was at the end of the road . You drive through a neighborhood and you're like there's a forest down here and you get to the end of the road . It's a dead end and it says welcome to State Forest and just right there .
Right .
And it was at the end to be in the park and that was that . That was when the band gods decided to open the 20 meter band and Colin and I were . We just set up in the back of the car and we're like we'll just pass the mic back and forth and we'll just make 10 contacts each and we'll get out of here and 20 meters just lit up on fire .
It was like what ? two or three in the afternoon , I think that was the last one we did for that day and it was just back to back . Ever it just pile up after pile up just the whole time . We each made like that was a funny story actually .
So if you go to the photo website and you look up the top five activators , the top five number of Q so is in the top five hunters . We did not do that for this park .
We each made 110 contacts at that New York Park and as we packed up , we're driving back and I'm on , I'm on my phone looking at the photo website and I said , kyle , the top active or the top number of Q so is in this park was 109 . So we each got 110 . So we took over the number one and number two spot .
There it is right there , yeah , yeah , and we weren't even trying . We're like crap . We should have just waited another 30 minutes and gotten way ahead of the guy .
And what's ? What's funny , was it just the ? The pilot just never stopped and we were like , literally , we were going to do all right , 20 , and then it came in 25 . Okay , let's do 50 . How about 75 ? Okay , well , we can spend another 20 minutes here and do 100 , right .
Well , how about 110 ?
you know it just we couldn't get out . No , in a good way .
Well , that's like perfect memory , like dude , you're gonna never forget that . That's gonna be like one of those parks always go like oh , that was my golden park . You know I'll never get 110 contacts ever in that short of a period of time .
So cool , so like in terms of your parks and you know obviously you , you tried to bring everything you possibly could in terms of you know the equipment and hardware and whatnot . Did you ? Did you find that when you got to like I know you were started in was a Connecticut with Iso and you started to activate from that beach park ?
That was how many contacts you get out of that . And did you find that , like , the beach propagation was good a benefit to you guys , or was it just bad band conditions at the time ?
That was actually Rhode Island . Oh , rhode Island , okay yeah he drove , he drove us out there and we didn't activate Connecticut until the very last day , but but that was Rhode Island and we drove out there with Don and it was horrible . It was horrible because it was really windy . Oh okay , it was really windy and it was a little cold .
I mean you know Texas boy cold .
So it was chilly ?
I wouldn't . It was probably in the 60s , it wasn't cold .
Oh , we call light jacket in shorts in New England .
Yeah that's shorts weather around here .
Yeah , we're putting on . Park is out here , and I'm just kidding it's been in the 60s and very nice here this whole week .
But but yeah that , if I remember , we had a bunch of RF issues too .
Yes , yeah , so we set up it was like a Like a cabana or like a like a concession stand , deck , area For for like , and there were people out there and there was like a little jungle gym for the kids on one side and and some beach access and some of that , that fencing that protects the , the vegetation there , kind of all around the area .
So we set up on the deck outside of this this what looks like a concession stand . Everything was closed , it was all closed . There was no people there . So we set up up there and they must have had like refrigerators or something running in there Because there was a lot of RFI in that area . So that made it a little bit more difficult .
We probably should have gone out into the beach and we would have . It wouldn't if it would have been so darn windy because we would have been able to to get away from all that , but then we would have a lot of wind , noise , the microphone .
So , yeah , we just strapped up a pole , A telescoping pole , and just ran the antenna out and we knew , like you know , we had . We had just gotten off the plane , we had driven an hour out to the speech and we were a little tired and we knew that we needed to do Clubhouse that night too , right ?
So it was a get the antenna up , let's get some 15 or 20 contacts in the books and then let's get out of there .
Yeah , and a couple of them were like that . A couple of them we sat there and and and enjoyed the time there , and a couple and we just got there were like okay , let's get this activated and head out to the next one , because we were on a on a schedule .
We did all of this in about four days , yeah that was yeah , and I didn't feel like it was rushed . I mean , I didn't personally feel rushed Inside of that . Four days we also went to WNAW and spent an afternoon we also and we did clubhouse that first night and that kind of thing .
But yeah , I mean , you , you said something a minute ago about Taking the time to activate or whatnot , and we took the time to activate on two or three parks and they were the right ones to spend the . That one in , was it ? What's that ? One that was on the beach , was that ?
Oh , you talking about McIntyre ?
No , no , no , Fort McLeary yeah yeah , that thing that was my favorite , yeah .
Yeah , mine too . Well , I'm glad . I'm glad you love that one , because that tends to be the place I go to every time . I'm a main . You know the views are awesome as you . You know you watch your video . If you have a chance to go check out the videos , go check out Jason's videos and Kyle's videos on it , because they Did a great job .
But , you know , making that park look amazing .
Yeah , it was fun , it was fun .
So in terms of like kind of your techniques and stuff like that , you have to adapt much to what you used to say back at home in terms of you know , either you know being out in , you know the actual physical , you know property or you know Just in terms of radio gear .
I mean , obviously you said you combated against each other in terms of fighting for band space or whatever . Would you find you had to Change anything on the fly for yourself to get to you know , make the contacts ?
Other than you know , trying to figure out where we are going to operate and what you know . A little bit of coordination of okay , what band are you gonna start on ? Okay , I'll go up or I'll go down . It was all pretty much the same . I mean , I have to give a shout out to Izzo because he Literally opened up his potabag and said take what you want .
Yeah and you know I had . I didn't bring a telescoping pole and I barred one of Izzo's and so that was familiar to me . For from a that's what I use whenever I go out in Pota right .
So Typically I either strap it to to a tree , I lean it up against a branch , I do something of that sort , and because we had our radios , our own radios it's not like you know we were we ended to this blind . So you know I was Relatively familiar on what I needed to do to get the park activated .
There were a couple of times where I knew that I was gonna call CQ and I was gonna get 15 or 20 contacts and then I was . I was good and you know , whenever you're you're calling CQ at at early in the morning . You know , like the the park in Vermont , you know I called CQ many times and nobody came back to me .
I said , okay , I'm done on this band . You know I've run this band and do I go to another band or do I hike back up to where Jason's at and sit around and you know , shoot the crap with him and maybe make some sideband contacts .
And all of those times I had extinguished all of the contacts that I was gonna make and I'm like you know what I'm done , I you know I accomplished the task .
The task was Not only did we put the APB out to say , hey , come and hunt us , and if you need Vermont , if you need New Hampshire , if you need you know these states , we will be on , go , look for us .
But the goal was for me and to Jason , to get the green square Form , that hunted state , and put that , that stat , in our pot of stats active activated state .
Yeah , yeah , but yes , yeah , correct , cool . Yeah , I agree with what Kyle said it was the point of the trip was to get , because I have a personal goal . I want to activate a park in every state , all 50 states , and I'm probably about a little bit more than halfway there , but that's but all of the .
Out of those nine states we were in , the only one I had activated previously was New York , so we got , so I got eight new states at this trip and I was just , you know , I got the activation . It was fun if we , if we did it quick , fine . If we took our time and enjoyed it , that's also fine . So it worked out well for me either way .
So with your quick tour through New England , if you're make it the trip again , was there any particular spot that kind of want to revisit or any areas that you kind of heard about that you didn't get a chance to visit , that you'd want to go check out next time ?
Yeah , I so Vermont , New Hampshire and Maine . I want to go back to those states . What is that mountain range in that comes from Vermont and then Continues into New Hampshire and then Mount Washington is part of that range .
So that's on the in the Green Mountains or in Vermont . We have the Green Mountains going north-north . New Hampshire has the white mountains and then in Western Mass there's the Berkshires .
Okay , so it's the , it's the green and the white mountains . I would love to go a little bit farther north . Well , one , spend some more time in Vermont , because we only did the southern tip of Vermont right . So I would love to go up and do more of Vermont . But then also I want to go to Mount Washington .
That would be really cool to to to drive up there and do a soda and a Poda up there because I think that that's a Poda .
Yeah , I highly recommend in the summertime .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , they've already got snow .
Yeah , yeah , but also Maine . You know , whenever I was , you know that's my first trip to Maine and , and especially on the coast there , I really enjoy the ocean and Activating that . That Fort McLeary State Park or historical site was awesome .
I can just totally see that that is the common theme all the way up the coast of Maine , all the way to Arcadia , you know .
And we've talked about doing Arcadia , for I think it's Arcadia , we always call it Arcadia . I can't , yeah , okay , yeah we've been talking about doing Arcadia for like two years . So for me I want to plan a trip to Arcadia during Probably during the fall , because the summer I think is too crowded from what I'm told .
But but that would be , that would be say , if I were to go back up there . That would be a reason to go back up there .
That place is magical . I , my wife and I , we honey honey mooned up there and we go back there every summer and I hope you guys had a chance to get a classic lobster roll .
We did .
Yes , yes .
What'd you think of the price ?
Yeah , okay , come on , kyle , be honest , because we know on your video you said it was a little astronomical in terms of what the value and market price is in .
It was smaller than what I thought it would be . Yeah , yeah , that price it is .
I think we paid $35 for the lobster roll and in some fries and I mean it was good , it wasn't . Yeah , it was good . I'm not sure if it was 35 .
You guys , you're gonna understand that lobster back in , like the early days , that was the poor man's food . Those things used to be crawling on the Beach . Now it's like you know you got to pay a fortune for him . My , my friend from college , one of my old roommates .
He lived in booth Bay Harbor , which is like right on the , you know , right on the coast , and in his backyard there's a little inlet and he threw a lobster truck back there and He'd go to his house and his mom would always have like lobster stew , lobster Biss , something going with lobster on it and she'd be like hey , I'll go go get me another lobster .
He'd go out , pull up his trap , pull one out of it and bring it in and boil it up . Wow , so for them it was like yeah , he's like I had lobsters , nothing . But yeah , it's gotten really expensive . It used to be a lot more affordable , but lately it's a rich man . Yeah , yeah , it's the rich man's food .
I mean , I was expecting , you know , probably 22 to 25 dollars . But then whenever we rolled up and everyone's like oh , you got to go to , like I know , it's like Bob's . Yeah , yeah , I'm check yeah so we we ended up going to what was that other place ? You told us to go to Eric the Trader trading post . Yeah , the trading post yes .
We roll those knockoff .
Yeah , yeah . So we , we rolled through the the Cabela's there and Then we , we , we could have probably walked over to Bob's . But yeah , I sat down at Bob's and I was like , hmm , this is about ten dollars more than I expected but you know what we're here .
We're going to do this , yeah , yeah , that's cool so .
That's good . So , um , you guys want to , you want to go back and do Maine and stuff . So would you do , would , if you came back , would you do like a ? Maybe split it in half , do like the mountains and then the second Half head out to Maine on the coast , because I don't even know how many parks , eric , are on the coast of Maine .
I mean , there's probably a lot .
The ones I've done all the way up to about soccer , are actually up to Portland and they're just some distance between them and some of them are wild light and so this I know another question . But like there's a lot of their wildlife preserved , so they are like almost inaccessible to get to , like you know , by parking space or whatever .
You have to do a little bit of Hike . But yeah , there's a good percentage . I can't remember W1 Dede , he did majority . I think he actually completed all of his Maine parks . I can't remember if you finished it or not , but yeah , he did a whole .
You know a month and a half where he just buckled down and did every , you know state , every park that he could , you know , across the state and the ones that are up in caribou , in that place . Those things are ridiculous , hard to get to . So yeah , but yeah , yeah , the coast ones are great .
I mean , like highly said , you know you love the Fort McLeary . You know , once you get up there there's a bunch of other forts along the way that are just like in Soco , that are just , you know , great places to activate . You know that's same .
There's a ton of parks going from like the coast of like the North Shore of Massachusetts all the way up to Maine .
When you could pry it , right , eric , you and I were gonna keep planning on doing what we're gonna call that thing when we did well , I did a , I did an a park rove all the way up route one , and route one starts in Hampton Beach and that's in math , or basically starts in Salisbury State Park and goes all the way up route one and you can literally hit
A park every like five miles . It's like one of those Pull in and that would be a .
That would be a fun trip to do that . If we were gonna drive up there and you know , camp along the way went on , I think I would enjoy that . Wait , the reason we talk about a Katie .
We didn't really mention this so maybe for the listener that doesn't know , a Katie at the way that poda parks are numbered , all the ones in the USA start with K and then they're four digits .
Well , katie , a national park is 0001 , so that's why we've been talking about it for so long , because it is number one on on the list out of 9800 or something parks that they have now right . But that's that . That began . 002 , 3 and 4 . I think are all in Alaska . Yeah , they're the first 20 or 30 numbers are all national parks .
So when are we doing those ?
Yeah , yeah , exactly , good question . But I mean , I'd like to , I'd like to several those that never been activated before and it's probably because you got a Hike for about three days to go .
Oh god , yeah , I mean , I don't know if you check out K7 ELC I think it's his channel or whatever . He's a big you know . Yeah , yeah he's . He hikes for like 10 , 12 miles to just go to a pot of park . I'm like okay , yeah .
Like those , those parks you have to hike . We might want to do those in the winter and get a snowmobile .
Right out there , right Just run a helicopter , man Just .
Yeah right , you know the . The other difference from New England , then St Louis in Missouri and I'm sure that this is the the deal in Texas is Just the amount of parks in the square . Mileage , yeah , is just astounding . Like you know , I'm looking here at Massachusetts and I mean how , how long does it take to drive across Massachusetts ?
Three hours two hours , half hours .
Yeah , okay , three and a half hours . I mean there are probably a hundred parks within a stone's throw of one another . I mean you take a , you take a circle and take three hours , there's probably 300 to 400 parks . Right , you do that in Missouri , you're maybe gonna get maybe 150 , you know .
Maybe 200 , you know maybe so funny thing is you said so . If you look at that span of Massachusetts , it will take that as a chunk . If you look at a lot of those parks , a lot of those parks are pretty much what I call landlocked .
So they're they're they're bordered by either , you know , residential home , private homes , and access is usually trail access or no access at all because it's you know some , you know Some deed put in place or whatever .
So a lot of those may have maybe one or two activators that may have activated and those usually at least when I go out to look at those you know and I do a lot of work and mass , so you know well , fly through a lot of those parks .
It's like you get to a place where you know you're like , oh , I'm gonna go activate this , but then you really pull up Google roadmap , you know Google Maps and street view , and you're like I can't get to this place , there's no way I'm gonna be able to find it in half an hour .
Is that different for you guys , like in st Louis or , say , texas , where it's more flat ?
Yeah , I mean most of all the parks that are in Missouri have some type of access , even the state force and the conservation areas . They have roads that go into them and they have like a parking lot right that you can literally park it .
No well , how about you like Jason , with the most of the parks down in Galveston in that area and stuff ?
Yeah , they all have . I mean you can pretty much access all of them Drive-in wise it's . My understanding was that poda . You know you find there's a lot of soda spots in Texas that have never been activated because there's some algorithm that picks what is and isn't a soda summit and About 99 and a half percent of all the land in Texas is privately owned .
We don't have any built BLM land out here . We don't have any public . We've got public access . We call it Army Corps of Engineer land and like the beaches are public access and whatnot . And you're talking about Texas being a flatlands and that that's true .
What people don't realize is that Texas is so big and I'm not just saying this , I'm actually being on it , being truthful here Texas is so big . We have east Texas is very trees , pine trees , wooded areas , not very mountainous . But if you get out to Big Bend area on west Texas , a lot of mountains , desert out there .
Get up to the Panhandle , you get a lot of snow . You get down south and there's it's like Beach weather down there . So there's a lot of different climates inside the state of Texas but it is . It's easy to . I mean being that there's . There's just so much area . It's takes a long time to get between parks .
You might find an area that has three or four or five parks in like within an hour's drive , but you're not gonna like . One time I was visiting Bob from our finder up in Long Island and we just hopped in the truck one day and he's like let's go activate some parks . And I probably activated seven parks in like an afternoon and we just drove to each one .
We drive down there and sit in the car and activate and then drive to the next one , and it was just I mean . They are spoiled down here 15 to 20 minutes to 30 minutes between parks and I'm like , oh my gosh , what is going on ?
So yeah , I mean there's just Texas has 250 , some odd Poda entities last I checked which is more than most states have , but they're so . They're so spread out from one another you can't really do , it's not really possible to do much in like a short day or trip , yeah , you couldn't . You couldn't like what Kyle and I did in New England .
You couldn't do that here , not with that many of them . Shane and I did a five part , poda Rove Five part , four or five , I think it was five part . One day we we got up one and we got up .
We hit the road one morning before sunup and we drove all day and we just we got to the park , we activated , we tore down and we went to the next one and we were gone all day . We got home after dark that night . We were gone for a good 12 , 13 hours that day and and we got five parks .
So you do that in Long Island , you could probably get 25 parks . So I mean you know that kind of thing .
I'm not complaining .
It's just a different environment , and some of the parks we activated that day were really nice parks as well , so it just depends on what you're trying to do .
Well , and you know , that's I mean it's a good point to make because obviously when you came up this way , you know you were coming into , you know totally different territory than you're used to and you know trying to navigate , you know , and obviously you pointed out where you know you're in a couple of parks in Vermont and you had to go down side roads of
people's neighborhoods and you're like am I really going somewhere ? Am I going to someone's backyard ? And you know , you know I'm gonna be here in a banjo in five minutes or something .
Yeah , so , yeah , you know , and I I think with you guys you know we're used to that like I'll do a park and I'll be like , oh , I get another half hour , let's see what's . Oh , there's a park . I have an active . It's right down the road , like two miles yeah , and it's like one of these .
You drive on the road and then there's like the access to the forest and there might be a Hiking trail or something , and you just pull up and and that's , that's basically . I mean , we're kind of spoiled with that . I know that when I travel down south they're not as close together as they are up here .
There's not , it's many , so you have to actually drive a little bit farther . So it's not like oh well , I got a half an hour , let me go activate a new park . You know just in where we live .
I mean , I would say how many parks are , like just in Within , like a 10 square mile , there's got to be like there's five to 10 parks , he's 12 within 25 minutes from me , so yeah , yeah , wow .
Although there are a few where , with the landlocked , you know being back in the woods and swamp nearby , unless I got some heavy , deep and insect repellent .
Yeah , winter , yes , winter , go in the winter , well you know , with the winter is a lot of those swamp land , you know marshland areas . They're still like super like damp and not a lot of them are like trail hikes .
So like you're just kind of going in , you know heavy trucking it , and you're like , okay , I'm hoping I'm gonna come out of this Contacts because of this ain't gonna be .
You got to remember we get a lot of snow here . So , like you say , walking winter it could be like you could be hucking through like three feet of snow .
Yeah you need just no shoes .
Yeah true , true . So you know we didn't really touch much on the airline side of stuff . But I know obviously you guys had , you know , a pretty good system when you set up , you know , to bring all that stuff on the the airplane with you .
It's the biggest question I guess I have and you know we did an episode on it in terms of the TSA and whatnot , that you guys get tagged hard at all at the TSA Getting stuff through or you get lucky .
The only thing that I got tagged on was if , and here's I learned this , and so word to the wise here if you're going to bring radios and bring a lot of electronic equipment , don't stack it . Lay it out flat so they can all scan it .
And there's not things on top of one another , because Both my KX3s got flagged Going out and coming back and they just wanted to scan it again and I had TSA pre-check , so you know I can't . The line was short , no big deal . They got my bag , they put it to the side and they'd be like we got something in here and I'm like , oh , it's a ham radio .
And they're like they didn't care , they could care less . They just wanted to take that KX3 and scan it again to make sure that it didn't . Yeah , right , but Other than that , no , I didn't have , I didn't have any issues at all .
I I Knew that whenever I packed , I packed my backpack and a carry-on , and if it didn't fit in the backpack and it didn't fit on the carry-on , it was not coming with me . Good philosophy .
I , I had two backpacks and well , yeah , yeah , two backpacks and it .
I always Stuff and the opposite of what Kyle just said , I always stuff my bags completely full when I fly and if I get and I have pre-check also in about half the time , maybe 60% of the time , they stop me and I'm just like you know what , fine , just scan it , I don't care and and but everything I had .
You know , I get the question on the channel a lot Do you fly with him ? Radios ?
Literally every time I fly , I take a radio of some sort , usually an HT , sometimes a small QRP rig or something , and and , but I always , always , always take radios when with me when I'm traveling and and , honestly , most of the time , that's not what if they pull your bag aside and they said we have to search this , okay , that's not what they're looking for
. They're usually looking for a big battery . If you have that , like a 12 amp hour or smaller battery which is legal , well , allowable , allowable on the airlines and or my or maybe like a . I had a . I had a tripod flagged one time . It was , it was a .
It was a tripod that broke down into three pieces and they the bottom piece was a little heavy duty Because it was . It was the bottom piece that was made to stand on the on the legs and it was extra sturdy and it was . It was one . Yes , it was heavy . And they're like , what is this ? And I'm like you see that Tripod mount on the bottom of it .
That's a tripod , it goes together with this and this and they were cool with it , but I'm like , seriously , it's a freaking tripod . So you know People and again , people ask me a lot of time Do you fly with rate ? I fly with radios all the time and the radio is usually not the thing they're curious about so yeah , I've , I've .
You know , I've been going down south and I've had all different kind of TSA is not consistent . No because they will pick and choose and you know , one time it was my antenna , then the other time when I get , stopped a lot on as I forget that if I have the weight , one of those throw weights in there . That thing , yeah , they're like oh , what is this ?
I'm like it's a beanbag . Yeah , right , right you know but yeah , I mean , but there's no consistency and that sometimes I get through and they don't even check anything . And then one guy I was .
I always tell myself I've got some ham radio equipment in there and he was a ham and I honestly think he stopped me just to check out my Gear , just starts going through oh , where'd you get this ? Oh , this is great . Oh , we gotta go check this out . I'm like , yeah , I gotta catch a flight man .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , I have , I have . I usually carry my laptop with me and sometimes a tablet , and they don't really do this much anymore , but used to be . When these tablets came out , that were when that when the whole iPad and tablet thing craze started several years back . They would say take your laptop out yeah , this was before pre-check .
Take your laptop out and put it on the belt , okay . And I was like , do I have to take the tablet out ? No , you don't . And then the guy at the other end was like , why didn't you take your tablet out ?
And I'm like , dude , seriously , and they like they're all there in the same area and they're still not consistent because they don't talk to one another . So , but it's , it's things like that reason I bring that story up . It's things like that . It's like , hey , do I have to take this out ?
No , okay , and then you get down there or you go back when you're flying home , you back to the same exact airport and you don't take that out , and it's like , oh no , you have to take this out . I'm like , literally four days ago , when I was here , I didn't , so I guess you guys have changed your policy since then .
All right , so at least it's not just me . I have the same experience . I'm like these guys are all over . And it also depends on what airport you're at . Yes , you go to one airport , no problem , you go to the other one . They want everything else .
And also I think it depends on the experience of the person who's sitting in front of that scanner too .
Yeah , oh , absolutely 100% .
Well , they had that one that Colin and I went through in Hartford . Coming back they had those new jet . They look like a jet engine , the new style of scanners .
So we have them in Manchester in the New Hampshire airport and those things .
they either don't work or the guy doesn't know how to read it . Because on both of my bags and both Kyle's bags all together we're going to have to rescan these and I'm like you're fancy , dancey little jet propulsion Like give you cancer from standing 10 feet outside of this thing . That can't you think scanning again is going to help . Come on .
Sometimes a charm .
I guess so , because they scan it the second time . They're like OK , you're good , I'm like they're still going to want to open it up , but they didn't , and that surprised me .
Yeah , we could go on to stories , but the biggest thing for me is always batteries . Make sure your batteries are taped well , because if they're not taped or they're taped like they look like a bomb , they are guaranteed to be flagged . It's guaranteed , there's no doubt .
I just I print out their own rules and I hand it to the guy and I said look at , this battery is legal . This is straight from your website .
Oh , thanks , todd makes great friends with that .
Well , and the airline allows a larger battery capacity than TSA allows . Because if you look at the TSA website it says like 100 or 110 watt hours , whatever it is , but underneath that it says however , airlines may vary . Well , American Airlines allows 150 watt hours , so I can take a 12 amp hour , which is 144 watt hours .
I have a battery especially for that . I have that battery to fly with . That's the reason I own that battery and that's what I take . It's the largest one that American Airlines will allow .
But if TSA looks at it , they're like well , and I'm like well , I'm flying on Americans right here , Like oh , OK , yeah , and I've never had a problem that sometimes they'll ask about it . But , like I said , like you said , inconsistent , Very cool .
So all right .
So I kind of wrap things up a little bit In that entire nine state road that you guys did , anything that you guys would change , you'd want to make sure you had , if you had to do it all over again , any kind of things that you kind of thought like , ok , well , after it was all done , if I had this it would have been that much better , or whatever .
More time , really , yeah , ok , I mean , I would have liked to spend a lot more time at more parks . We were basically hitting one park per state and I would have loved to explore , like I said , vermont , new Hampshire , maine a little bit more .
So if I'm going to do this again , I'm not going to pack so much poda into a small amount of time , and we probably could have stretched out a little bit by not going to W1AW or HQ or not spending as much time at individual parks , but that's the whole experience .
Yeah , or cuddling up with Iso . That kind of just adds to the whole thing Exactly .
Exactly . I mean , you've got to have priorities and so now that you've done it and you experience something like that , you have those . Ok , I've done those parks , now I want to do other parks , but I want to do more parks and I want to go . Your first trip is almost like a scouting trip .
Yeah Right , you're just testing the waters to see what's out there , to see what's going on , and then you see what's going on and you're like OK , I want to come back here , I want to spend some more time around this area .
So I would go spend three or four days just in Vermont going around , or Maine , ok , going around to different parks . Yeah , similar to what Kyle said , the point of this trip , which was brought up earlier , was to get those state activations in our logbook and that's what we did . We accomplished our goal . We absolutely 100% accomplished our goal .
So the next time we go back , if we do it again , I think the goal would be to either just spend four days and go to one park per day and just burn the park down , or just try to get as many parks you can in a single state , something like that . So I just kind of maybe find something that I think it's .
I've been looking here recently about the least . You can go into the POTA website . You can drill down to find all the parks in a state and then you can sort by number of QSOs and number of activations so you can go find the least activated parks and least activated areas .
Come on , don't give the secret away . That's the only way . Yeah , I'm making the rounds here .
Yeah , but there's always going to be a park . That's the lowest number in the state , even if that number is not zero . In Texas the number is two . The least activated park in Texas is outside of Lubbock and it's been activated twice .
There's nothing in Texas that's never been activated until they add more parks , of course but so there's always going to be something at the bottom of that list and that'd be a fun thing to say . Ok , well , this park's only been activated a very small number of times .
Let's go do that one and let's sit there for 24 hours maybe even camp there , if it's like a state park with facilities and whatnot and just rack up several hundred QSOs and see what happens . So that would be fun .
Yeah , I think the only thing I would say is that in your entire process of going state by state and getting those nine states down , I think you I don't know if you'd felt like you had people breathing on your neck along the way because literally after you guys left Bear Brook , five cars pulled in . We're all like where is Jason , where's Kyle ?
And I'm like dude , you guys just missed them . I think they're going up to Maine . You might want to follow them that way and they're like which direction did they go ? And I'm like they went that way .
North , you got a posse hunting . You , yeah , you wouldn't see .
Literally five cars all stopped me were like hey , I heard , Jason was here . We saw him on APRS . And I'm like yeah , I know .
I was here . He was here for my demos .
They took 10 contacts and then they bolted they were off to Maine , so yeah .
I think it and that was my fault because I was doing the giveaway of the FT5D , saying come find me on APRS . I don't think I . I love doing that , don't get me wrong , but I don't think we'll do that . If Kyle and I do this again , we will not do that we will probably .
What we'll probably do is say , hey , we're going to go to these parks and , like the last park of the day , we'll say , hey is going to be . Kyle had the whole thing planned out , had a whole spreadsheet . Oh yeah , we saw he was very meticulous about it and it worked out .
The AM radio stuff doesn't work out . Kyle , you know travel itinerary Right , Right , you know good career .
But we talked about doing that and saying , ok , on Thursday we're going to do one or two parks and the last one's going to be this park . Everyone meet us here and roughly about this time , so we would probably do that next . That's one regret that I have .
Personally , I was like I should have probably waited and not done the FT , although there was a guy from New Hampshire , hamshur , that came to that Fort McLeary in Maine and won the radio .
So I was really happy for him to do that . Oh , do you ? Yeah , I was like , oh man , not that I was looking for the radio , I ever got a plane of HTs , yeah , so I could throw stones at . But yeah , it was good to see that somebody grabbed it so Right .
Right , so but yeah , that's yeah , Doing a big group effort and inviting people out . I would very much like to do that next time . Very cool .
Yeah , yeah , that'd be awesome .
So , yeah , any parting thoughts like anything you'd like to add just to the whole experience that , if someone was going to try to make this attempt , the one thing that you kind of gleamed from it that it was obviously you touched upon a little bit of it , but is there anything one takeaway that you'd like to pass off to somebody if they were looking to do
this ? Nine-state road ?
Have fun . Yeah , I mean we've already paved the path for the nine states . All you have to do is Hello , Kyle's route yeah .
Yeah , follow the route , and honestly yeah , and honestly , the first and last day we only did one park . Yeah , one park the first day in Rhode Island and one park the last day in Connecticut and the other two , three days in the middle , were three parks each , I think it was , and it's well , one day was two . But , yes , yeah , I mean , have fun .
Yeah , find out in New England , go do a nine-state Po-ter-Rove on the West Coast and then I'll be impressed . Yeah , it's easy , but give yourself enough time and just go do it , because it's really , really fun . Love to do it again . Vehicle .
Yeah , you know you guys could also do . You know , even come into like New England and then work in your way south , because you got New Jersey , you got Delaware , pennsylvania , maryland , virginia , you know from the tip of the it was your new camper trailer .
Yeah , like from New .
York from . Like New York City , you know , down the Baltimore's maybe a four and a half hour drive .
So you know you get . You know . What I would love to do is maybe to um we've talked about this on Ham radio guy or Ham radio adventure guys channel where you know Delaware , washington DC and Rhode Island are , you know , in Maryland are pretty compact states , right , and entities and locations .
It would be cool to have some type of plan where you could activate all of those entities in those locations and do it in a couple of days , you know , or maybe three days . Delaware you could easily do on a weekend . Maryland you could probably do on a weekend .
Dc might be tough to do on a weekend because of the crowds , but then roll up to Rhode Island and do that in four or five days , you know . Um , but yeah , you're right , it's uh , or you could do DC .
You could have a quota invasion and just have like every park activated at the same time because they're all like on top of each other .
Yeah , yeah , on top of each other in DC .
It's crazy .
Yeah , it's , it's uh . Dc is is you have to figure out where to go in DC not to have 10 people get wrapped up in your antenna ? That's the issue with DC .
Yeah .
Because there's just people everywhere and um and also the . The security in DC is is heightened . Right , you know you start putting up a telescoping pole next to the washing monument and some somebody's going to come over and be like hey , dude , what are you doing ? What are you doing , you guys best friend , Yep yeah .
Yeah , all right . So you know this is only a personal question . You can say I know you guys didn't obviously have enough time to to to to . You know , stop and smell the flowers . But I know , jason , you weren't a big IPA guy and New England is not always , you know , traditionally known for their IPAs or whatever . But you are a stout guy .
So my challenge to you is , when you come back up this way , I need to introduce you to a bunch of stouts that are in a great . You know A couple of great brews around the area . We can go hang out and I get your personal opinion and you know , being a stout guy , you know whether or not you like them and you know , you know , what not .
I would love to , because we really couldn't find Mitch much in the way of stouts . I guess it just wouldn't cold enough in New England . So , yeah , I , we didn't really find much at all in the way of stouts , um , in the places we did go . So , yes , yes , challenge accepted . I would love to do that .
Very cool All right , cool , all right . Well , hey , let's wrap this up here a little bit , um . So , you know , in closing , um , you know , thank you again for both being on here . We , you know , we're glad you guys shared your experience with the Poto Rove and hopefully we inspired a bunch of people to . You know , kind of take on that same challenge .
Um , but you know , if you haven't had a chance to see any of their videos , Definitely head over to their youtube channels and check them out , because they did a great job . You know , document in the whole process and , you know , playing off Fort Dumber , we'll we'll never live that down whatsoever In English , just the way it's gonna be .
So , uh , you know , in closing , you know , uh , how can uh our listeners , uh , you know , find you Jason ? What's the best way ?
Ham radio 2.0 on youtube . Um , ham radio 2 , the number 2 dot spelled out zero on instagram , twitter and uh , just ham radio 2 on facebook , but youtube's the main , my main jam , so cool . Yeah , combine me over there . Thanks for the opportunity , guys .
Yeah , no , glad to have you on . How about you , kyle ? How can I find you ?
Yeah , just uh type in a zero z in youtube and , uh , you'll go to straight to my channel and then , uh , the only thing that I have Ham radio related , that Is uh not youtube is twitter . Uh , kyle a zero z on twitter and thanks , guys , appreciate it Awesome .
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