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Leaving Eden Podcast

Leaving Eden LLCwww.patreon.com

A podcast about the IFB Cult as told by survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavri'el HaCohen. This podcast covers the IFB, the history of the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, other cults, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion.


General Content Warning: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics.


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Episodes

Ep. 154: A Thief In The Night (Halloween Special)

On this episode, we review "A Thief In The Night," a 1973 evangelical horror film depicting the rapture. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unle...

Oct 23, 20231 hr 32 min

Ep. 153: Created To Be His Helpmeet by Debi and Michael Pearl

In this episode, we review "Created To Be His Helpmeet," by Debi and Michael Pearl. From the authors of "To Train Up A Child," This book is a popular guide for christian fundamentalist women, instructing them how to be submissive wives. This book advises women to minimize themselves and to be a person without needs or wants or desires, and to surrender their personal identity to be of service to their husband. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, incl...

Oct 16, 20232 hr 6 min

Bonus Episode: Liberty University Investigation/Kanye West's Coercive Control

We discuss the latest scandal on the Liberty University campus, as well as the allegations of cult-like controlling behavior from Kanye West. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/10/03/liberty-university-clery-act/ https://pagesix.com/2023/10/06/kanye-west-orders-wife-bianca-censori-to-never-speak-wear-certain-clothes-report/ TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD an...

Oct 12, 202346 min

Ep. 152: Which Duggar Should Be On The Bachelor? What Are Fundie Vacations Like? And Other Listener Questions

On this episode, we answer more listener questions! TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we d...

Oct 09, 20231 hr 45 min

Ep. 151: Will Anna Duggar Stay With Josh? What Do We Think Of "Sound of Freedom?" And Other Listener Questions

On today's episode, we answer listener questions on a variety of topics! TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we...

Oct 02, 20231 hr 50 min

Ep. 150: Keep Your Word And Obey Your Father: Deconstructing The Story of Jepthah

In this episode, we deconstruct the story of Jepthah and his daughter. This is a bible story that was used to great effect during Sadie's fundamentalist upbringing as a tool to control people and as a tool to demand obedience. The details of the story, however, vary quite dramatically from the way Sadie remembers it being told when she was growing up. By looking at different interpretations, we are able to uncover a serious hypocrisy that exists within fundamentalist teaching. TW: In general we ...

Sep 25, 20231 hr 41 min

Ep. 149: Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar Dillard Book Review and Analysis

In this episode, we review Jill Duggar Dillard's new book, Counting the Cost, co-authored by her husband Derick Dillard and Craig Borlase. "For the first time, discover the unedited truth about the Duggars, the traditional Christian family that captivated the nation on TLC’s hit show 19 Kids and Counting . Jill Duggar and her husband Derick are finally ready to share their story, revealing the secrets, manipulation, and intimidation behind the show that remained hidden from their fans." To us, t...

Sep 18, 20232 hr 39 min

Ep. 148: (Brain In The Jar Part 2) J Frank Norris' Murder Trial And Brain In The Jar Story

On Today's episode, we delve into both J. Frank Norris' infamous 1926-1927 murder trial, and the physical and historical evidence surrounding his "Brain In The Jar" story that was used for decades after his death to scare fundamentalists into submission. This "Brain In The Jar" story appeared in our first ever podcast episode. Since that time over three years ago, it has been our holy grail. Finding out the details and getting the opportunity to confirm or debunk this story has been a long-term ...

Sep 11, 20232 hr 15 min

Ep. 147: (Brain in the Jar Part 1) J. Frank Norris Was A Klansman Who Burned Down His Church For Insurance Money

We have finally, after 3 years, tracked down the ORIGINAL "Brain In A Jar" story that appeared in both Episode 1 of our podcast, and Episode 57, our primer for new listeners. This story was our holy grail, and after 3 years we have tracked down a firsthand account of this story for confirming/debunking. It originated with a fundamentalist pastor named J. Frank Norris, who in many ways is the genesis of the IFB movement as it exists today. What's more, he had a bizarrely acute influence on Jack H...

Sep 04, 20232 hr 22 min

Ep. 146: Brittany Dawn Megaepisode

On this episode, we discuss fitness influencer-turned christian womanhood influencer Brittany Dawn, as well as all of her cons, grifts, flimflams, frauds, and scams. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of th...

Aug 28, 20232 hr 9 min

Ep. 145: Barbie Is Satanic

In the final episode of our "Summer of Satan" series, Sadie and Gavi discuss banned toys in fundamentalism including Cabbage Patch Kids, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, and of course, Barbie. They finish the episode with a discussion and review of the Barbie movie as well as a teardown of Ben Shapiro's "review" of the Barbie movie. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE...

Aug 21, 20231 hr 55 min

Ep. 144: 3rd Anniversary Special!

On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi celebrate the 3rd anniversary of the podcast with a retrospective look at their favorite moments from the past year, and with some previews of what listeners can expect going forward! An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling Ri...

Aug 14, 20231 hr 29 min

Ep. 143: Alberto Rivera (Part 2)

On Today's second part of a two-part episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss Alberto Rivera, one of Jack Chick's most trusted sources for the conspiracy theories that he proliferated in his comic books. Alberto Rivera alleges a large-scale global conspiracy theory in which the Roman Catholic Church seeks world domination. Turns out, just like everything else in Rivera's life, his conspiracy allegations are stolen. Find out from where on today's episode! Tune in next week for discussion of banned childre...

Aug 07, 20232 hr 8 min

Ep. 142: Alberto Rivera (Part 1)

On Today's first part of two-part episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss Alberto Rivera, one of Jack Chick's most trusted sources for the conspiracy theories that he proliferated in his comic books. Alberto Rivera alleges a large-scale global conspiracy theory in which the Roman Catholic Church seeks world domination. Rivera claims to be an ex-priest who worked for the jesuits to infiltrate protestant churches in order to bring them down from the inside. Only problem with this is that Alberto Rivera wa...

Jul 17, 20232 hr 4 min

Ep. 141: Rock And Roll Is Satanic According To Professional Exorcist Bob Larson

On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi review Larson's Book of Rock: For Those Who Listen to the Words and Don't Like What They Hear by Bob Larson. This book provides a good overview of what most fundamentalists find objectionable about rock music. It also provides insight into how out of touch and disconnected from reality most fundamentalists are when it comes to music. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental...

Jul 10, 20232 hr 17 min

Ep. 140: Jack Chick and Chick Publications (The Summer of Satan)

Gavi and Sadie begin their SUMMER OF SATAN special episode series discussing the satanic panic! On today's episode, they discuss the life, art, and ministry of Jack Chick, creator of the infamous christian propaganda mini-comic book gospel tracts otherwise known as "Chick Tracts." Jack Chick was one of the primary promoters of the satanic panic/illuminati conspiracy theory and had a massive influence on conspiracy theories of today, such as Q Anon. Gavi and Sadie discuss his possible motivations...

Jul 03, 20232 hr 7 min

Ep. 139: Through Gates Of Splendor: The Leaving Eden Drag Brunch (feat. Dinah House-Fire) (Pride Month / Purity Culture / LGBTQ)

On today's episode, friend of the pod and drag performer extraordinaire Dinah House-Fire joins Sadie and Gavi to talk about Jim and Elizabeth Elliot. Elizabeth is the author of the book "Through Gates of Splendor," which chronicled her husband's death during an ill-advised missions trip to spread christian colonialism in Ecuador. Elizabeth's later writings were instrumental in the advent of purity culture throughout christian evangelicalism. Subsequent examinations of Jim's journals and Elizabet...

Jun 26, 20231 hr 42 min

Ep. 138: Bisexual Pride Interview with Meghan Crozier of Thereafter Podcast

On today's episode, Meghan Crozier of Thereafter Podcast sits down with Sadie and Gavi to talk about her experience of discovering bisexuality later in life, as well as how to help people in the intermediary steps of becoming affirming. Listen to Thereafter Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thereafter/id1534952602 Follow Thereafter Podcast on social media! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thereafterpodcast/?hl=en Twitter: https...

Jun 19, 20231 hr 38 min

Ep. 137: Queer Eye's Pastor Noah Hepler (Pride Month Special) (Netflix / Deconstruction / Theology / LGBTQ Affirming / Tan / Karamo / JVN / Bobby / Antoni)

In this episode, Sadie and Gavi are joined by Pastor Noah Hepler, of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of the Atonement in Philadelphia. Pastor Noah was featured on Season 5 Episode 1 of Netflix's Queer Eye as an openly gay pastor running a queer affirming ministry. He speaks about his own journey and upbringing in fundamentalism, his experience on the show, and what it means to be an affirming Christian. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including b...

Jun 12, 20232 hr

"Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets" Miniseries Analysis

Shiny Happy People contributors and IBLP survivors Lindsey Williams and Chad Harris join Sadie and Gavi to give analysis and insight into their review of the new documentary miniseries exposé of the Duggar family, the IBLP, and Bill Gothard. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including...

Jun 08, 20231 hr 53 min

Ep. 136: The Westboro Baptist Church (Pride Month Special) (Fred Phelps / Hate / TULIP / Calvinism / Shirley Phelps-Roper)

F*** Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do o...

Jun 05, 20232 hr 8 min

Ep. 135: The Wizard Of God (Scandal / Affair / Fundamentalism / Jack Hyles / Vic Nischik / Battle of 1989 / IFB / First Baptist Church of Hammond)

Sadie has finally gotten her hands on a copy of the rare fundamentalism memoir, "The Wizard of God, My Life With Jack Hyles," by Vic Nischik. This book contains many bombshells about the Hyles-Nischik affair that were previously unknown. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including gui...

May 29, 20232 hr 4 min

Ep. 134: The Scopes Monkey Trial (True Crime / Evolution vs. Creationism / Fundamentalism / Social Darwinism / History)

Join Sadie and Gavri'el as they discuss the Scopes Monkey Trial, a pivotal moment in American history that affected the right to teach science in public schools. This trial was one of the first worldwide or semi-worldwide mass-media events that was covered in real time. In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and ...

May 22, 20231 hr 56 min

Ep. 133: Jerry Falwell And Liberty University Part 2: The Pool Boy Strikes Back

On this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss various scandals surrounding Jerry Falwell's ministry and Liberty University, as well as the pool boy scandal that prompted the Falwell family's departure from leadership of Liberty University. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including gui...

May 15, 20232 hr 3 min

Ep. 132: Jerry Falwell, The Moral Majority, and Liberty University (Part 1)

On today's episode, Gavi and Sadie discuss the history of Jerry Falwell's ministry at Thomas Road Baptist Church, his political activism with The Moral Majority, and his christian university, Liberty University. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In mo...

May 08, 20231 hr 36 min

Ep. 131: To Train Up A Child (Michael and Debi Pearl / No Greater Joy Ministries / Child Abuse / Parenting)

On this episode, Sadie and Gavi are once again joined by Dr. Shoshana Fagen, who lends her considerable expertise to the discussion of the ubiquitous and infamous fundamentalist parenting book/child abuse manual, "To Train Up A Child," By Michael and Debi Pearl. The techniques recommended in this book have been used by fundamentalist families like the Duggars for decades. Together with Shoshana, they examine how truly horrible and harmful this book is, and what healing from this sort of upbringi...

May 01, 20232 hr 14 min

Ep. 130: Peter Ruckman (Steven Anderson / NIFB / Racism / White Supremacy / Fundamentalism / Prophecy)

On this episode, Sadie and Gavi take a deep dive into fundamentalist hate preacher Peter Ruckman, his bizarre autobiography, his multiple marriages, and his theology, which was extreme even for IFB standards. Sources for this episode are available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/sources-for-4-24-81931295 TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abus...

Apr 24, 20232 hr 17 min

Ep. 129: Q&A (Sadie's Faith Journey / Environmentalism / Science / Fundamentalism / Adoption / Fundie Snark / Cult Stories)

On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi answer listener questions about a variety of subjects! In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to...

Apr 17, 20232 hr 18 min

Ep. 128: Fundies Being "Woke" By Accident (He Gets Us / Paul and Morgan / Girl Defined / Zsusanna Anderson / Lori Alexander / The Transformed Wife / IFB / NIFB / Fundie Snark / Culture War / Racism / Transphobia / Homophobial)

On Today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss instances in which prominent fundies have given accidentally "woke" takes, from Girl Defined's sex work seminar to Paul Olliges insights into the nature of online discourse to the "He Gets Us" super bowl ads. They also discuss the etymology of the word "woke" and how it came to be the dogwhistle/boogeyman that the religious right has made it out to be in recent years! (Apologies for the audio quality issues, we are working through a new method of record...

Apr 10, 20232 hr 1 min

Ep. 127: Fundie Pastors Wives (deconstruction / burnout / fundamentalism / cult stories / Jesus / christianity / church)

In today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the multitude of responsibilities that are taken on by pastors wives in christian fundamentalism. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try ve...

Apr 03, 20232 hr 21 min
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