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Leading Second Podcast

Brandon Stewartsoundcloud.com
A weekly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair. Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
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Episodes

Leading with Clarity ft. Jodi Cameron | S7 Ep. 181

Brandon is joined by Jodi Cameron, Teaching Pastor at Champion Centre in Washington, to continue the Kingdom Centered Leader summer series. They discuss the importance of having a Biblical Worldview, how to know a leader’s worldview, and how the Church must rise up in helping people develop a Biblical worldview. To learn more on this topic, stream our course Biblical Worldview I: Leading with Clarity by Jodi Cameron on Leading Second+ today. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along...

Jul 18, 202434 min

The Kingdom Centered Leader ft. Kevin Gerald | S7 Ep. 180

We start our summer series, the Kingdom Centered Leader, with Kevin Gerald, founder and Lead Pastor of Champions Centre in Washington. This discussion centers around how the two colliding kingdoms we navigate through in ministry affect our worldview and how we lead those around us. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the nex...

Jul 11, 202451 min

Things Your Pastor Wished You Knew but Can't Say ft. Jabin Chavez | S7 Ep. 179

Jabin Chavez, founder and Lead Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, NV, gives us an inside look at the heart of a lead pastor. In this conversation, we discuss the weight of being the lead pastor, different ways his team has focused on running with the vision of the church well, and the alignment of a Second Chair Leader. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help yo...

May 30, 202446 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Temi Pope | S7 Ep. 178

This week Larry Brey, Associate Pastor at Elevation Church, sits down with Temi Pope, Chief of Staff at Union Church in Maryland. They have a powerful conversation on calling vs career, facing overwhelming seasons in ministry, and staying in alignment with your pastors. This episode is part of our series, Inside the Second Chair, where we are diving in with different leaders to discover the secret sauce that keeps leaders focused and in the game. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow ...

May 23, 202438 min

Overcoming the Obstacles of Leadership Development ft. Phil Klein | S7 Ep. 177

Developing team members is vital in leadership. However, it can be a daunting task to begin initiating a system for this. This week, we hear from Phil Klein, founder of focus412, about the importance of incorporating leadership development into an organization and how to begin that process. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership t...

May 16, 202438 min

Intentional Leadership Development ft. Leading Second Coaches | S7 Ep. 176

There’s something about intentionality that moves us forward. This week we are joined by Leading Second Coaching Group Coaches Dillon Ritchie, Operations Pastor at CoastLIfe Church in Venice, FL; Kelly Goff, Location Pastor at The Rock Church in Phoenix, AZ; and Jon Hatto, Campus Pastor at Hillsong Church in Toronto, Canada. The coaches respond to questions asked by the Leading Second Tribe on how to be intentional in several aspects of ministry. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow ...

May 09, 202439 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Vance Roush | S7 Ep. 175

Join us for another behind the scenes conversation on leading from the Second Chair. This week we are joined by Vance Roush, Executive Pastor at Vive Church in California and founder of Overflow. We take a new look at Second Chair leadership as a bi-vocational leader. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Downl...

May 02, 202433 min

Navigating Second Chair Leadership in a Church Plant ft. Noah Herrin & Connor Crumpton | S7 Ep. 174

Church planting is not for the faint of heart. This week we get the opportunity to hear from Noah Herrin, Lead Pastor of Way Church in Nashville, TN, and Connor Crumpton, Executive Pastor at Way Church, as they provide a unique viewpoint of how they work together as First and Second Chair Leaders to build this new space for their community. This discussion is insightful for anyone serving in the Second Chair, not just for church planters. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along wi...

Apr 25, 202439 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Philip Engle | S7 Ep. 173

This week, we are joined by Philip Engle, Senior Coach and General Manager at focus412, as we continue our series Inside the Second Chair. Philip offers a unique perspective on ministry as he represents both ministry and the corporate world. We talk about creating healthy leadership habits, being a trustworthy leader, and defining what success looks like in the second chair. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your t...

Apr 18, 202433 min

Family & Ministry ft. Jonathan Brozozog | S7 Ep. 172

Mixing family and ministry can be tricky, but when we are intentional about both there are great seeds that can be sown. This week we get to hear from Jonathan Brozozog, Lead Pastor at Creative Church in Minnesota, who has some deep insight into balancing family and ministry. Catch the full, extended version of this conversation on Leading Second+ today. Visit leadingsecondplus.com. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use wit...

Apr 11, 202434 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Nate Puccini | S7 Ep. 171

This week Larry Brey, Associate Pastor at Elevation Church, sits down for an inside the Second Chair interview with Nate Puccini, Executive Pastor and Chief of Staff at Substance Church in Minneapolis, MN. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Apr 04, 202431 min

Answering Your Questions LIVE (Team Church One Day Special) | S7 Ep. 170

Ep 170: We’re joined by Matt and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX and Travis Marshall from Christian World Church in Dallas, TX as we tackle some questions from Second Chair Leaders live at the Team Church One Day in Dallas, TX. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free re...

Mar 21, 202423 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Wade Joye | S7 Ep. 169

This week, we are joined by Wade Joye, founder of the Joyful Leader ministry, as we continue our series Inside the Second Chair where we are diving in deep on the practices, disciplines, and functions of great second chair church leaders.

Mar 14, 202442 min

Biblically Faithful Leadership ft. Chris Palmer | S7 Ep. 168

Tending to our personal discipleship development is crucial to how we lead from the Second Chair. Chris Palmer, Academic Dean with Theos Seminary, walks us through the importance of our growth in discipleship and how it can impact our ability to lead from the Second Chair. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. ...

Mar 07, 202447 min

Inside the Second Chair w/ Larry Brey | S7 Ep. 167

Do you wonder how great leaders function? Through this series, Inside the Second Chair, we are diving in with different leaders to discover the secret sauce that keeps leaders focused and in the game. Through a series of questions that will be asked of different leaders throughout the season, we will get a first hand look at how each of us can stay ready for what we are called to do from the Second Chair. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussi...

Feb 29, 202435 min

S6 Ep. 166 // An Alignment Check-up with Brandon Stewart

Today is an alignment check-up. It’s important to recognize if we are misaligned with the mission and vision of the church and for the leadership to recognize when misalignment could be the result of organizational clarity. The goal of this episode is to continue the conversation on alignment but through a different lens, to learn how to question yourself, and to give a roadmap to seeking alignment with you and your team in mind. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the co...

Dec 28, 202332 min

S6 Ep. 165 // Rich & Cass Langton on Leading Second as a Creative

On the creative team at a church, many different areas make a service and a weekend function. Rich and Cass Langton know this all too well. There can be a struggle to ensure there is alignment in the team to make sure the main goal is accomplished, to make Jesus known. Rich and Cass pour out their invaluable knowledge and wisdom in how to lead a creative team, with insights that go far beyond just the creatives in the Church. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conver...

Dec 07, 20231 hr 5 min

S6 Ep. 164 // Dusty Dean on Winning with Your Family

There doesn’t have to be a battle over time between ministry and family. They can and should coexist if viewed and prioritized with purpose. Brandon and Dusty Dean, Lead Pastor at Heartland Church in Texas, reflect on their own lives growing up with parents in ministry, how they are approaching their own families, and how our kids can grow to love being a child of someone who is in ministry. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions t...

Nov 30, 202348 min

S6 Ep. 163 // Leading Second Coaches on Alignment

Alignment is a critical issue for a leader. It’s true that every team member must have an aligned heart, but what if alignment is also an organizational issue? How can someone be aligned if they are unclear of what their authority and role is in the organization? Brandon, Jennifer and Matt Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, and Nick Dekold from Lakeshore Church in Rockwall, TX sit down to discuss how they continue to work to have clarity, alignment, and security for everyone on the...

Nov 16, 202344 min

S6 Ep. 162 // Vance Roush on Leading Innovation from the Second Chair

As Second Chair Leaders, we are called to carry the vision of our leaders. But where does the idea of innovation play in the Second Chair? Vance Roush, Founder of Overflow and Executive Pastor at Vive Church in California, brings a fresh viewpoint on how to lead from the Second Chair by being an innovative visionary. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take you...

Nov 09, 202336 min

S6 Ep. 161 // Jenni Catron on Giving Your Organization a Culture Check-Up

Every organization has a culture, whether it is by design or by default. When a team is working well together and fully aligned, the momentum towards the mission is unstoppable. Jenni Catron, founder of The 4 Sight Group, joins Brandon and Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastor at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, to talk about the value of culture in an organization. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Nov 02, 202341 min

S6 Ep. 160 // Rivers Church Team on Healthy Multisite Culture

Culture is a vital part of why anyone attaches themselves to anything. Establishing and maintaining a strong culture is vital to any church that wants to have a thriving ministry. Brandon is joined by Tracy Keene, Co-Pastor at StrongPoint Church in Columbus, OH, and they sit down with Adi and Claire Olivier, Lead Pastors at Rivers Church Kyalami in South Africa, to talk about ownership, culture, and honor. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Oct 26, 20231 hr 6 min

S6 Ep. 159 // Ask Us Anything with Brandon Stewart & L2 Team

It is so important for each of us to acknowledge that we need to learn from others who have walked and are walking in similar scenarios as we are. Brandon, Nichole Moore from Champion Center in Tacoma, WA, Kyle Heinecke from Fresh Life Church in Kalispell, MT, and Jon Hatto from Hillsong Canada walk us through some questions they have as well as their insight of different situations through their walk in ministry. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Oct 19, 20231 hr 12 min

S6 Ep. 158 // Dave Rich on Leading Second Through Legacy Giving

There are many different types of Second Chair Leaders. Different positions, different talents and abilities, and different avenues in which to serve and lead. Giving is not just a Biblical principle, but a very important leadership avenue in the Church. Malachi 3:10 says, "'Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,' says the Lord Almighty, 'and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there wil...

Oct 12, 202346 min

S6 Ep. 157 // Scott Riztheimer on The Journey to Predictable Success, and Where We Get Stuck Along the Way

Every leader is on a journey. Throughout the journey, it is important to know where you are, where you’ve been, and where you’re going. Scott Riztheimer, founder and CEO of Scale Architects, brings clarity on the stages of Predictable Success as well as some insight into how to walk through the stages of being stuck. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Oct 05, 202345 min

S6 Ep. 156 // Matt & Jennifer Martin on Managing Frustration in Ministry

In ministry, we can get frustrated with people or situations around us. Matt and Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastors at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, provide some invaluable insight, guidance, and entertaining stories to help us see that we aren’t alone in our frustration and how we can thrive in the presence of frustration. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Sep 28, 202341 min

S6 Ep. 155 // Wade Joye on This Dream is Not For You

A dream is a wish your heart makes… but what do you do when the dream in your heart isn’t your reality? Wade Joye, a coach, speaker, podcaster, and author of This Dream Is Not For You, walks us through how to navigate through the reality we are currently in, accept the dreams that have been given to us, and accept when we might be called in a different direction than we thought our dream would go. This Dream Is Not For You is available wherever books are sold - Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc, o...

Sep 21, 202347 min

S6 Ep. 154 // Manny Arango on Trusting God With Your Calling

Being a Second Chair Leader is a sobering position to hold. It takes a confident, humble, and faith-filled person to walk alongside a leader and follow as the leader has called them to do. Manny Arango, a teaching pastor at Social Dallas in Texas and the founder of ARMA, brings an unapologetic perspective on God’s process of refining us to serve Him and His Church.

Sep 14, 202357 min

S6 Ep. 153 // Kevin Gerald on the Year of the Leader

There’s no perfect formula, but there are some vital areas that must be considered when talking about leadership. Brandon sits down with Kevin Gerald, Founder and Lead Pastor of Champions Centre in Washington State, to discuss our central theme for the year: The Year of the Leader. The need for leaders is all around us. We can’t change what’s happening everywhere, but we can do something where we have been placed.

Sep 07, 202349 min

S6 Ep. 152 // Leadership Failures and Church Growth at All Costs

There have always been and will always be Church critics and when there are stories of any kind of leadership failure in the Church, they will have a feast on it. Brandon sits down with Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, for a discussion on how we as the Church can address these areas and be proactive in preventing them. This conversation is spoken out of love for leaders and for the Church with the goal to ...

Jul 27, 202347 min
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