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Leading Second Podcast

Brandon Stewartsoundcloud.com
A weekly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair. Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
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Episodes

S6 Ep. 151 // Racial Unity in the Church and What That Means for Church Leaders

We’re jumping right into what can sometimes be seen as an uncomfortable conversation about racial unity and the Church. Brandon, Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL are joined by Monique Duson, President at The Center for Biblical Unity, to discuss colliding kingdoms, to identify what systems are in the world today, and to recognize how to speak to believers about racial issues to bring understanding. Find the...

Jul 20, 20231 hr 1 min

S6 Ep. 150 // Deconstruction, Gender Ideology, Sexuality, Boycotts and the Loud Social Media Landscape

Brandon, Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, jump back into the discussion of the importance of the Church having an understanding and sound ability to communicate its stance on cultural issues. The discussion continues with a challenge in knowing the importance of definitions, being bold to discuss the uncomfortable, and seeking out how to lead in our culture. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/pod...

Jul 13, 202333 min

S6 Ep. 149 // Postmodernism, Critical Theory, and the New Woke Religion

Postmodernism. Critical Theory. Woke Religion. Join us for a deep discussion on how we are called to walk through this new worldview and what our response to today’s culture should look like. Brandon, along with Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, dives into a deep discussion on why these conversations matter, understanding wokeness and Critical Theory, and what truth means to culture versus the Church. Find ...

Jul 06, 202346 min

S6 Ep. 148 // “I Am With You” with Todd Mullins & Dave Simiele

Being “all in” for your pastor and the church is foundational to being a Second Chair Leader. Todd Mullins and Dave Simiele from Christ Fellowship Church in Florida share how being strong in the vision of your lead pastor shapes how you lead others in the pastor’s vision for the church. This discussion calls each Second Chair Leader up to be the leader God has called them to be. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Jun 01, 202347 min

S6 Ep. 147 // Omar El-Takrori on Losing Your Voice to Find It

Everything communicates. To be a strong communicator is to be a strong leader. Omar El-Takrori, the Community Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, NV, brings incredible insight into how we can grow in our communication knowledge and confidence. Brandon, Jesse Rodriguez, the Location Pastor at the Yakima, WA, location for Champion Centre, and Stephanie Blanton, the Central Campus Pastor at Freedom House Church in Charlotte, NC, sit with Omar and discuss the varying aspects of leading through...

May 25, 202348 min

S6 Ep. 146 // John & Anna Morgan on Being a Number One Number Two

John and Dr. Anna Morgan from Word of Life Church in Springfield, VA dive into what it is to be a Second Chair Leader through the eyes of former Second Chair Leaders who are now First Chair Leaders. They bring honest and Biblical truths to how we are called to walk out what God has called us to do. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

May 18, 202355 min

S6 Ep. 145 // Nathan Finochio on Stewarding Your Calling

Brandon, Joshua Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Kyle Heinecke, Campus Pastor at Fresh Life Church in Kalispell, MT sit down with Nathan Finochio to discuss walking in your calling while still serving under your leader. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

May 11, 202336 min

S6 Ep. 144 // Levi Lusko on Things Your Pastor Wished You Knew

Brandon spends some time with Levi Lusko, founder and lead pastor of Fresh Life Church, discussing several topics to help Second Chair Leaders understand some aspects of leadership and ministry that lead pastors wished their team knew. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

May 04, 202336 min

S6 Ep. 143 // Brandon & Lindsay Stewart - Ask Us Anything

Brandon and Lindsay Stewart take us through their thoughts on family, peer relationships, nonnegotiables, and ways to renew. Dillon Ritchie from CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, facilitates the discussions of different aspects of ministry and how the Leading Second leaders walk through the varying aspects of ministry. Joining the panel are Matt and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, and Jon Hatto from Hillsong Church in Toronto, Canada. Find the episode guides at leadingsec...

Apr 27, 202344 min

S6 Ep. 142 // Lee Wilson on The Vision Tension

Pastor Lee Wilson, the founder of Lee Wilson Ministries, fires us up about God’s vision for our lives. With the help of Pastor Tracy Keene from StrongPoint Church in Columbus, OH, and Dillon Ritchie from CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, Brandon dives into what it looks like to manage the tensions between the vision we serve under and the vision we are carrying. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Apr 20, 202352 min

S6 Ep. 141 // Temi Pope on Standing In For Your Leader

In this episode, Brandon sits down with Temi Pope, the Senior Executive Pastor at Union Church, and breaks down how she works to stay in tune and stand in for her pastors. Through practical examples, Temi and Brandon walk through how to stand in for your pastor to help move the mission of the Church forward.

Apr 14, 202337 min

S6 Ep. 140 // Les McKeown on Scaling Your Organization (and What It Will Require of You)

We’re back with another installment of our conversation with Les McKeown. He is the President and CEO of Predictable Success and a consultant to companies and many different levels. In the Last episode, we talked about moving from a start-up to a scaling phase in your organization. Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, joins us once again as we talk more about scaling, what Les calls Predictable Success, and what it will require of you. Find the episode guides at leadingsecon...

Mar 30, 202329 min

S6 Ep. 139 // Les McKeown on Moving From Start-Up to Scaling

In this episode, we are talking with Les McKeown, the President and CEO of Predictable Success. In his consulting work, he works with CEOs, Fortune 500 companies, and down on how to achieve scaleable and sustainable growth in an organization. He’s the author of four books, and he leads an organization of consultants. With the help of Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, we will hear some brilliant wisdom about moving from start-up to scaling. Find the episode guides at leadi...

Mar 23, 202332 min

S6 Ep. 138 // Joshua Bingle & Michael Whittle on Leading in an Anti-Authority Culture

There’s a tension in being under authority while also being called to lead others. Culture can pull at us to see the authority we are led by as “the problem” rather than the sin we each possess. Joshua Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Michael Whittle, Pastor at C3LA in Los Angeles and founder of Vast Media, bring some critical insight into how we are called to see and honor the leaders and authority figures God has placed over us. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond...

Mar 16, 202346 min

S6 Ep. 137 // “I Am With You” with Nate Puccini

Nate Puccini, the Executive Pastor at Substance Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, discussed his walk to returning to the Church, his views on serving, and how to focus your life to see God and your pastor. Through his story, the relationship between Jonathan and David, and some real talk about walking out the call on our lives, we get to learn how to refocus our perspective on serving and leading. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Mar 09, 202346 min

S6 Ep. 136 // Larry Brey on Being Intentional in Your Leadership Development

The Year of the Leader is here. Welcome to Season 6 of the Leading Second Podcast. On this season opening episode, Brandon sits down with Larry Brey (Elevation Church) to talk through leadership development. They dive deep into how to be intentional in your development as a leader and how important it is to have people in your life to help you walk out what you learn. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Mar 02, 202334 min

The Year of the Leader | A Pre-Season Conversation with Brandon Stewart

We begin 2023 with the honor of hearing from three strong, wise, and insightful Second Chair Leaders. We’re joined by Kyle Heinecke, Campus Pastor at Fresh Life Church, Kalispell, MT; Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastor of Ministries at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX; and Dillon Ritchie, Ministry Executive Director at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL. This is the Year of the Leader at Leading Second and today we are focusing on how to be strong leaders and how to develop strong leaders around u...

Feb 24, 202338 min

S5 Ep. 135 // Top Family & Ministry Rhythms for 2023 with Brandon & Lindsay Stewart

In what has become a bit of a tradition for the Leading Second Podcast, we are closing out our season with one last conversation at the end of the year in hopes of fueling the start of your next year! Few topics are more important to Lindsay and me than family and ministry. Getting this wrong is one of the quickest ways to be taken out, so we wanted to break down some of our top rhythms for this.

Dec 29, 202242 min

S5 Ep. 134 // Natalie Runion (Raised to Stay) on Walking Through Church Hurt

“Why we should have left, why we choose to stay.” That is in Natalie Runion’s Instagram bio, and that is what her heart is for any time you hear her speak or, more likely, read the words she has written. You probably know her as “Raised to Stay,” but she started with a passion for seeing people go the distance in ministry. She joins me to have a conversation about church hurt.

Dec 08, 202246 min

S5 Ep 133 // Why Did We Stay? with the NorthRock Church Team

For this conversation, I have the pleasure of talking with Jonathan Moore, Matt Martin, and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, Texas. They’ve all been together for over ten years now, and longevity in ministry and leadership is one of the most impressive things to me. So the big idea of the conversation is simple. Why did you stay?

Dec 01, 202251 min

S5 Ep. 132 // Things That Will Take You Out of Ministry: Core Competencies

It’s our final conversation in this series of things that will take you out of ministry, and we’re back with the team from The Well in Salt Lake City. We are called to be good stewards of what we’ve been given. With the help of Jason Parrish, Seth Freeman, and Kaisa Freeman, we talk through how we can do that and unlock some things in our leadership and ministry with core competencies.

Nov 17, 202225 min

S5 Ep. 131 // Things That Will Take You Out of Ministry: Doctrinal and Theological Congruence

The longer you’re in ministry, the higher the chance you’ll face some things that could take you out. But knowing what they are can make all the difference in how you respond when they do come. This conversation is with Jason Parrish, Seth Freeman, and Kaisa Freeman from The Well in Salt Lake City, Utah. We’re talking about doctrinal and theological congruence. Those are some big words with a big impact on the foundation of our lives and our alignment with our church.

Nov 10, 202232 min

S5 Ep. 128 // What We Think About From the Second Chair (Second Chair Leaders Panel)

This conversation is a continuation of the conversation we had with our Lead Pastor panel last week, but this time is with second chair leaders from those same churches! Dave and Sarah Nelson from The Well, Girly Gordon from The Movement OC, and Jeff Hanson from One Place Church chase down the same big idea that their pastors did. "The better the relationship between the first and second chair, the more aligned our teams will be and the healthier our churches will be."

Oct 20, 202239 min

S5 Ep. 127 // What We Think About From the First Chair (Lead Pastors Panel)

For this conversation, I am sitting down with a group of lead pastors as they give us a unique perspective into the head and heart of our own pastors. Jason Parrish from The Well, Carey & Meghan Robinson from The Movement OC, and Pace Hartfield from One Place Church, join me. We discuss the idea that the better the relationship between the first and second chair, the more aligned our teams will be and the healthier our churches will be.

Oct 13, 202236 min

S5 Ep. 126 // Developing a Leadership Culture (In a Quiet Quitting World) with Larry Brey

In the spirit of opening registration for Camp, this conversation is with our great friend Larry Brey. He is the unofficial cohost for our event and his voice has been a pillar of this tribe. Today we are talking about developing a leadership culture. What is culture, where does it come from, and how do we multiply it? We’re tackling all of that today.

Oct 06, 202243 min

S5 Ep. 125 // Being Faithful Under Authority with the C3 Los Angeles Team

We are joined by James Crocker and Michael Whittle, from C3 Los Angeles. The conversation gets a little spicy, talking about Godly authority, submission, and how to get it right. They share some great wisdom on the topic and give a beautiful picture of what biblical submission under authority looks like in our lives and talk about the benefits that come with it.

Sep 29, 202254 min

S5 Ep. 124 // Reflecting the Heart of Your Pastors with Earl & Oneka McClellan

This episode’s guests are longtime friends of the Leading Second tribe, Earl and Oneka McClellan. They sat in the second chair for many years and now sit in the first chair as Senior Pastors at Shoreline City Church, just outside of Dallas, Texas. They talk about alignment, studying our pastors and learning their vocabulary, and having confidence in our identity.

Sep 22, 202251 min

S5 Ep. 123 // Having Confidence In Your Unique Calling with Omar El-Takrori

We have the honor of hearing from Omar El-Takrori. Omar serves as the Community Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, Nevada, and a content creator with Think Media. He shares his thoughts on serving, having confidence in your calling, and how to utilize social media to have an impact on your ministry.

Sep 15, 202233 min
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