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Law and Chaos

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

Episodes

Ep 54 — Tim Walz Does The Dang Work

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz accomplished more in one legislative term than most politicians do in a lifetime. Can he do the same for the country? We take a deep dive into some of the laws he championed in Minnesota. Is this … optimism??? Links: Louisiana Will Get The Ten Commandments Into Schools If They Have To Break 'Em All To Do It https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/louisiana-will-get-the-ten-commandments Idaho Stat. 18-623 https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect1...

Aug 09, 202451 minEp. 54

Ep 53 — Trump’s Election Interference Case Is Back Just In Time For The Next Election

The Trump election interference case is finally back from getting beat to hell by the Supreme Court. What’s left after the disastrous immunity decision? And will the Supreme Court accept Mark Meadows’ invitation to do even more damage to the Republic in a naked bid to protect Trump’s cronies? Links: Trump v. US Immunity Decisions https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf US v. Trump District Court Docket via Court Listener https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-st...

Aug 06, 20241 hr 2 minEp. 53

Ep 52 — Utah Supreme Court Casts Major Shade On Sam Alito

The Utah Supreme Court will not be LARPing as amateur historians, no matter what nonsense Justices Thomas and Alito get up to. The state’s highest court upholds an injunction blocking an abortion ban. And we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s ignominious exit from bankruptcy, along with Project 2025’s implosion. Have rumors of the manifesto’s demise been greatly exaggerated? Links: Gina Carano's Trollsuit Against Disney Lives To Fight Another Day https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gina-caranos-trollsu...

Aug 02, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 52

Ep 51 — Supreme Court Reform: First They Say You’re Crazy, Then They Fight You…

President Biden is out with an op ed on how to fix our broken Supreme Court. We discuss the plan and the possibilities of implementing it. Could we shunt some of these justices off to the minor leagues and save the country? And Missouri Attorney General Andy Bailey wants to keep a man in jail despite the fact that he is actually innocent. Wouldn’t want to look like he’s soft on crime! Links: NY AG brief in Missouri v. New York https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O159/319733/2024072419173...

Jul 30, 202455 minEp. 51

Ep 50 — Project 2025: Yes, It Is THAT BAD

Project 2025 is the right’s manifesto on how to break the government and turn America into a Christian nationalist state. It’s also deeply weird — just like the guys who wrote it. We’ll break down 20 of the craziest policy proposals, and then take a deep dive into the plan to replace the civil service with an army of MAGA loyalists. Links: GOP Whines That It’s No Fair That Kamala Gets Joe’s Money https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gop-whines-that-its-no-fair-kamala Project 2025 https://static.proj...

Jul 26, 202453 minEp. 50

Ep 49 — Biden Bows Out, Kamala Sharpens Her Coconuts, and the GOP Gets Ready to Ratf—

Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term. Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf DNC 2024 Call For the DNC https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/0...

Jul 23, 20241 hr 1 minEp. 49

Ep 48 — Alec Baldwin Walks Out Of Court, While Rudy Giuliani Sloshes Back In

Rudy Giuliani discovers that getting out of bankruptcy court is harder than falling on your keyster at the RNC. And New Mexico prosecutors discover one weird trick to blow up a criminal case. (It is the Brady rule!) Plus Patreons get an update on the Louisiana ten commandments mandate. Links: NMSA 30-2-3 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-2/section-30-2-3/ NMSA 30-7-4 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-7/section-30-7-4/ Alec Baldwin docket https://...

Jul 19, 202458 min

Ep 47 — Trump Gets Christmas In July Thanks To Judge Aileen Cannon

Judge Cannon blows up the documents case by declaring special counsels illegal. All she had to do was ignore 50 years of precedent, five federal statutes, and two Supreme cases. Glove up for a deep dive, with Liz and Andrew. Links: Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod...

Jul 16, 202459 minEp. 47

Ep 46 — Rudy Giuliani and Bathtub Gin — Thanks, SCOTUS!

A Trump trial judge decides to overturn Supreme Court precedent on home distilling. And speaking of sobriety … we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to replicate Alex Jones’s stunning success in the bankruptcy court. Patreons get an extra field trip to Congress, where Oversight Chair James Comer invites the Biden administration to say where it would like to be kicked. Links: Wait, The Fifth Circuit Is Snatching Cases From Other Circuits Now? https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-fifth-circuit...

Jul 12, 202451 minEp. 46

Ep 45 — Kraken Crackpots and Cannon Balls

Today we have a deep dive into the absolute havoc SCOTUS’s immunity ruling will wreak in Trump’s document theft case — even though he was out of the White House when he committed his crimes! But first, the election denying weirdos and their election denying lawyers are Froot Looping all over the docket in the Dominion defamation case. And for subscribers: a discussion of the Alex Jones bankruptcy debacle. Links: 18 USC 333 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333 John Case in 2015 https://...

Jul 09, 202458 min

Ep 44 — SCOTUS Decides Not To Break The Internet … Yet (Feat. Corbin Barthold)

Liz and Andrew talk to Tech Freedom’s Corbin Barthold about two recent SCOTUS decisions involving conservative efforts to claim victimhood on social media. In Murthy v. Missouri , Missouri and Louisiana complained about the Biden administration’s efforts to push back against covid misinformation on social media. And in Moody v. Netchoice , Florida and Texas attempted to impose state controls on what social media platforms may restrict. Links: Murthy v. Missouri (SCOTUS) https://www.supremecourt....

Jul 05, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 44

Ep 43 — Well … So Much For The Republic

SCOTUS gives Trump everything his heart desires and more. Not only does he get to stay out of jail, he gets to be king if he wins again. Liz and Andrew break down the disaster. Links: Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf The Court’s Fischer Ruling Is a Symbolic Setback for the Justice Department—But One With Modest Consequences — by Roger Parloff https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-court-s-fischer-ruling-is-a-symbolic-setback-for-the-justice-department-but...

Jul 02, 202456 minEp. 43

Ep 42 — SCOTUS Wrecks the SEC, While Judge Cannon Wrecks Her Credibility … Such As It Was

In today’s episode, we check in with the Supreme Court that still has six cases left to decide, including the key decision on Presidential immunity. We break down Moyle v. US, in which the Supreme Court punted (for now) on the seemingly straightforward question of whether state abortion laws can supersede the federal EMTALA law protecting women in emergency rooms. Then, we discuss SEC v. Jarkesy, in which the Roberts Court continues to gut the administrative state, this time by restricting how t...

Jun 28, 202459 minEp. 42

Ep 41 — Chief Justice Roberts Will Do Anything For Guns, But He Won’t Do THAT

Today’s episode takes a look at two of the Supreme Court’s decisions from last week, US v. Rahimi, which apparently involves both gun control and time travel, and Erlinger v. US, which is an incredibly nuanced discussion of what qualifies as a prior offense under a Reagan-era federal law, so MAGA nation is of course lying about it being relevant to somehow overturning Donald Trump’s 34 state felony convictions. It isn’t. Finally, we update you as to the free-for-all unfolding now that Alex Jones...

Jun 25, 202444 minEp. 41

Ep 40 — Conservative Judges, Drunk On Power, Take The Wheel (feat. Amanda Marcotte)

Today, Liz and Andrew talk to Salon’s Amanda Marcotte about the right wing’s assault on Title IX through the prism of the political wedge issue of women’s sports. Then, Amanda breaks down the phenomenon of conservative “tradwives” as both cosplay and a gateway drug to white supremacy. Links: “Texas professors sue to fail students who seek abortions,” by Amanda Marcotte https://www.salon.com/2024/06/03/texas-professors-to-fail-students-seek-abortions/ “After Supreme Court's abortion pill decision...

Jun 21, 20241 hr 13 minEp. 40

Ep 39 — Trump Lawyers Flop Like Ronaldo As Alex Jones Dances Out Of Bankruptcy

We update you on the developments at Alex Jones’s two bankruptcy hearings last week and why they were a big win for the conspiracy theorist, with a special deep dive into Article I vs. Article III judges. Then, we discuss the latest from the Supreme court, before turning our attention to the myriad ways in which Donald Trump’s lawyers are still takin’ a dive before Aileen Cannon in the Southern District of Florida, just hoping that she’ll throw that red card. Links: 27 CFR Parts 447, 478, and 47...

Jun 18, 202459 minEp. 39

Ep 38 — Alex Jones’s Bankruptcy Is TURNIN’ THE FREAKIN’ FROGS GAY!

It’s another Trump-free extravaganza! We discuss the Hunter Biden conviction, forthcoming sentencing and appeals. Then, Liz and Andrew walk through the Supreme Court’s 9-0 reversal of the Fifth Circuit, protecting – for now! – the right to medical abortion drugs over the internet. Finally, in a lengthy segment (with a long Patreon bonus!), we tell you everything you need to know about a critical juncture in the Alex Jones corporate bankruptcy in the face of likely and deliberate misinformation b...

Jun 14, 202454 minEp. 38

Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)

Pennsylvania dad Darren Laustsen saw books disappearing from his daughter’s school — books which just so happened to be on the Moms for Liberty hit list. And he did something about it! Andrew and Liz talk to Darren and his lawyer Joy Ramsingh about their open records case that revealed a school board plot to shadowban books. Links: Laustsen v. Pennridge SD docket https://propublic.buckscountyonline.org/PSI/v/detail/Case/6253965 SB answer https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?i...

Jun 11, 20241 hr 8 minEp. 37

Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!

We update you on all of the states that have brought criminal charges against those involved in the “fake electors” plot to try and keep Donald Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election, including in particular the latest criminal complaint filed against Ken Chesbro in Wisconsin. In the B segment, we tell you how the Biden administration FINALLY banned asbestos. In 2024. Links: Chesebro “The Real Deadline for Settling a State’s Electoral Votes” memo https://app.box.com/s/ifis7hu74...

Jun 07, 202450 minEp. 36

Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!

We answer your follow-up questions on the Trump verdict in New York, remind you that Aileen Cannon continues to get worse and worse in the Trump documents case in FL, talk about Sam Alito’s fondness for flags, and give you an extra-long patreon bonus on Stan Woodward’s dedication to NOT his client. Links: Alito https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24698834-letter-from-justice-alito-to-senators-durbin-and-whitehouse Noreika denial of Hunter Biden MTD on invalidity of special counsel https://st...

Jun 04, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 35

Ep 34 — GUILTY

IT IS FINISHED. Today, the jury in New York unanimously agreed that Donald Trump committed 34 felonies, falsifying business records in the first degree, when he repaid Michael Cohen for secretly paying off Stormy Daniels to bury her story right before the 2016 election. What does it all mean and what comes next? Listen and find out! Links: NY Penal Law 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/ New York Penal Sec. 70 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00 New Yor...

May 31, 202458 minEp. 34

Ep 33 — Trump Trials: What Does The Manhattan DA Have To Do To Secure A Conviction?

Trump’s false business records case goes to the jury in New York. Liz and Andrew break down the charges and the jury instructions, as well as debunking some of Trumpland’s wildest lies about the law. Links: CITES NY PEN 175.05 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-05/ NY PEN 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/ Cohen plea deal https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax NY Ele...

May 28, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 33

Ep 32 — SCOTUS Says Racial Gerrymanders Are Very Cool and Very Legal

Liz and Andrew break down the latest Supreme Court horror ruling, greenlighting racial gerrymandering to all Republicans to choose their voters, and not the other way around. And then it’s off to Florida to catch up on the latest wacka**ery in the Trump stolen docs case. Links: Rucho v. Common Cause (2019) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6090361490276671133 Gill v. Whitford (2018) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-1161_dc8f.pdf Alexander v. S.C. NAACP (2024) https://www...

May 24, 202450 minEp. 32

Ep 31 — The Trump Trials: What Are They Thinking? (Plus Clarence Thomas Surprises Us All)

Trump’s lawyers make a bevy of unforced errors as their client continues to march ever closer to a conviction in New York for fraud in concealing the payoff payment to Stormy Daniels. Also, the Supreme Court surprises us, sort of, for now, by not sacking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and by allowing a Louisiana congressional map to go into effect that doubles the minority representation in that state. Links: 12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-5...

May 21, 202451 minEp. 31

Ep 30 — The Trump Trials: SLEAZE-A-PALOOZA!

The Trump trial in New York is racing toward the finish line, with Michael Cohen potentially the last witness. Meanwhile in DC, Steve Bannon reaches the findout on his contempt of congress charge. Links: US v. Navarro [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/ 2 U.S.C. § 192 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192 18 U.S.C. § 3624 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624 18 U.S.C. § 3632 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/...

May 17, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 30

Ep 29 — The Trump Trials: She Is The Storm

Liz and Andrew check in on the latest hilarity from Stefanie Lambert, the Kraken alum who’s now been arrested twice for trying to overthrow the 2020 election. Then, they break down last week in Trump’s NY trial with a focus on Stormy Daniels’ testimony and what the DA’s office has left to prove. Links: New York Penal Law § 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10 Dominion v. Byrne Lambert Motion to Adjourn https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.u...

May 14, 202443 minEp. 29

Ep 28 — Throwing Shade on the Supreme Court (Feat. Steve Vladeck)

Liz and Andrew interview law professor Steven Vladek about The Shadow Docket, what makes the Supreme Court legitimate, and how to think and talk about it in order to reform the Court for the future. Links: The Shadow Docket https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Docket-Supreme-Undermine-Republic/dp/B0BJ15Q9VZ/ Lisa Needham on Public Notice, “The Dangerously Illiberal Judges” https://www.publicnotice.co/p/columbia-protests-law-clerk-trump-judges-boycott Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky:...

May 10, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 28

Ep 27 — Trump Trials And Chemtrails

Liz and Andrew break Justice Merchan’s contempt ruling that paves the way for Trump to spend time in lockup, then discuss the witnesses and how they did, or did not, help the prosecution build its case. Plus, Tennessee banned contrails and maybe … spray bottles? Links: Second Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/DOcontempt_5-6-24FINAL.pdf Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2022 https://www.congress.gov/117/plaws/publ103/PLAW-117publ103.pdf 2023 OSTP Geoengineering Report...

May 07, 202442 minEp. 27

Ep 26 — Joe Biden Loves Ice Cream And … Weed?

Liz and Andrew Torrez catch up with Trump’s election lawyers. Where are they now, and why isn’t it the hoosegow? Then a deep dive into the Biden administration’s plan to reschedule marijuana. But first, Donald Trump has nothing but contempt for this court! Links: Trump Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf Eastman Disciplinary Order https://discipline.calbar.ca.gov/portal/DocumentViewer/Index/UTKQ_Y63MDG4l4uhXSVCPqiU-at38jxNGUYub4sJpbGYEMPf_D...

May 03, 202443 minEp. 26

Ep 25 — Another Set Of Fake Electors Reaches The Find Out (Feat. Tom Ryan)

Liz sits down with Arizona trial lawyer Tom Ryan to discuss last week’s indictment of fake electors by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes. It’s indictment-thirty for Boris Epshteyn and Christina Bobb! Links: Gag Order https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/JustSecurityNY2016ElectionInterferenceCaseClearinghouse%E2%80%94Order-granting-State-of-New-York-motion-to-restrict-Trump-extrajudicial-statements-March-26-2024.pdf Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/...

Apr 30, 202452 minEp. 25
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