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Law and Chaos

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

Episodes

Ep 24 — SCOTUS Beclowns Itself For Trump (Feat. Andrew Torrez)

Liz talks to podcaster Andrew Torrez about Trump’s Manhattan prosecution and the debacle at the Supreme Court Thursday when Trump made his magical, perpetual, presidential immunity argument. Links: Arizona v. Ward — Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment.pdf People v. Trump — Transcripts https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/ People v. Trump — Evidence https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/Evidence/ Trump v. US — SCOTUS Docket https...

Apr 26, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 24

Ep 23 — LFG: Trump On Trial

Trump’s first criminal trial gets underway in Manhattan, even as he fights to get the court to accept his hinky bond in the civil fraud case. Links: NYAG Opposition to Trump/Knight Surety Bond https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=E/oR7WnxPeT2tSnZpOGlBA== Trump Civil Trial NY, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justsecurity.org/89120/clearinghouse-new-york-attorney-general-corporate-fraud-case/ Trump False Business Records Case, Selected Docs at Just Security http...

Apr 23, 202430 minEp. 23

Ep 22 — Hunter Biden And The Lies They Wish Were True (Feat. Marcy Wheeler)

Hey guys, it’s Liz Dye, and we’ve got some big, exciting changes coming your way next week. It’s all still in process, but I can tell you now that we’ll be shifting our podcast drops from Monday/Friday to Tuesday/Friday and ramping up the written content, as well. So, heads up, the next show will be in your feed Tuesday, not Monday. But today, I’m so excited to talk to a personal hero of mine, Marcy Wheeler. This woman is relentless! If you want to understand what’s going on with the Biden prose...

Apr 19, 20241 hr 9 minEp. 22

Ep 21 — It’s A Trump Corruptionpalooza (Feat. Zach Everson)

On the eve of Trump’s first criminal trial, Liz sits down with Forbes reporter Zach Everson for a trip down memory lane, recounting the breathtaking corruption of Trump’s first term. Plus, Texas AG Ken Paxton loses a round in DC against Media Matters. Links: Zach Everson’s Substack on the Trump Hotel https://www.1100pennsylvania.com/ How a Nigerian Presidential Candidate Hired a Trump Lobbyist and Ended Up in Trump’s Lobby https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/trumpinc/episodes/trump-inc-nigerian...

Apr 15, 202446 minEp. 21

Ep 20 — Fifth Circuit WTF? (Feat Chris Geidner)

Liz talks to journalist Chris Geidner about the lawless Fifth Circuit, which is now snatching cases back from other Circuits — and even from their own District Courts — in a mad rush to stop the Biden administration from protecting workers and consumers. Links: https://www.lawdork.com/ The Fifth Circuit's lawlessness is now spreading from California to D.C. https://www.lawdork.com/p/fifth-circuit-venue-nlrb-spacex-cfpb-chamber Chamber of Commerce v. CFPB (Fifth Circuit Docket via Court Listener)...

Apr 12, 202446 minEp. 20

Ep 19 — All The Trump That’s Fit To Print (Feat. Anna Bower)

This weekend Donald Trump compared himself to Nelson Mandela. Liz talks with Lawfare’s Anna Bower, who lives out of a suitcase covering the Trump trials beat, to see if she agrees. Plus, WTF is going on with Trump’s bond in the New York civil fraud trial? Links: Trump’s Lawyers Told the Court That No One Would Give Him a Bond. Then He Got a Lifeline, but They Didn’t Tell the Judges. https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-bond-disclosure-appeals-court-hankey Businessman behind Trump's NY bond s...

Apr 08, 20241 hr 10 minEp. 19

Ep 18 — The Chief Justice That Caught The Car (Feat. Mike Sacks)

Liz talks to veteran legal journalist Mike Sacks about the Supreme Court and the decades-old plan to enshrine minority rule into law. How did the Chief Justice wind up frantically tapping the brakes as his own conservative colleagues are going pedal to the metal? And WTF is going on with Judge Cannon in the Trump docs case? Links: US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/ Special Counsel Threatens To Go To 11th Circuit, Remi...

Apr 05, 20241 hr 12 minEp. 18

Ep 17 — SCOTUS Looks Ready To Terminate Mifepristone Case (Feat. Susan Rinkunas)

Have anti-choice astroturf groups gone too far? Will SCOTUS save medication abortion from the loons at the Fifth Circuit? Liz discusses the arguments in FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine with reproductive rights reporter Susan Rinkunas. Links: FDA v. Alliance Hippocratic Medicine, Transcript and Audio of Oral Arguments https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-235 The ‘WTF Is Happening’ Guide to the Supreme Court Abortion Pill Case, by Susan Rinkunas https://www.jezebel.co...

Apr 01, 202453 minEp. 17

Ep 16 — Can You Weirdos Knock It Off With the TikTok Bans! (Feat. Corbin Barthold)

States are banning it, employers are blocking it, and now the US government is trying to steal it. What’s with all the noise around TikTok? TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold explains why politicians need to take several giant steps back and stop trying to tell kids how to do the internet. Links: A Breakdown of the Bizarre Factions Fighting Over the TikTok Ban Bill, by Corbin Barthold https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/tiktok-ban-bizarre-factions-strange-bedfellows H.R.7521 - Protecting Americans from For...

Mar 29, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 16

Ep 15: Trials And Judgements And Bonds, Oh, My! (Feat. Mitchell Epner)

Liz discusses all the Trump civil and criminal trials with New York litigator Mitchell Epner. Will Trump be able to pay that $454 million bond with the proceeds from taking Truth Social public? We’ll break it down. Links: Carroll v. Trump (I) [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/ Carroll v. Trump (I) — Denial of Rule 59 Motion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0_1.pdf US v. Trump [SDF...

Mar 25, 20241 hr 17 minEp. 15

Ep 14 — Our Ethics-Optional Supreme Court (Feat. Gabe Roth)

Recent revelations have shone a spotlight on the Supreme Court’s broken ethics rules, and boy are the justices mad about it. We talk to Gabe Roth, executive director of Fix the Court about the problem and what to do about it. But first, a breakdown of Trump’s appeal of Judge McAfee’s denial of the motion to disqualify DA Fani Willis in Georgia. Links: Fix the Court https://fixthecourt.com/ O.C.G.A. § 5-6-34 https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2020/title-5/chapter-6/article-2/section-5-6-34/ Mot...

Mar 22, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 14

Ep 13 – What a Difference Fair Maps Make (Feat. Jamie Lynn Crofts)

Liz talks to voting rights expert Jamie Lynn Crofts about the court order which forced Republicans in Wisconsin to surrender their stranglehold gerrymander. How will fair maps affect the Badger State? And what lessons can we learn for the country as a whole? Links: All Voting Is Local https://allvotingislocal.org/ Clarke v. Wisconsin Election Commission, OPINION https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=745249 US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://w...

Mar 18, 202459 minEp. 13

Ep 12 - Trump’s First Trial (Feat. Diana Florence)

Liz talks to Diana Florence, a litigator in New York who spent 24 years in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office. They break down the upcoming Trump trial for creating false business records as part of the scheme to disguise the Stormy Daniels hush money payment as legal fees. What should you expect in the first Trump criminal trial? Tune in for a former NY prosecutor’s take! Links: Trump Notice Regarding Advice of Counsel Defense https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-S...

Mar 15, 20241 hr 1 minEp. 12

Ep 11 - Why Are Arizona Republicans So Weird? (Feat. Tom Ryan)

Liz talks to Arizona litigator Tom Ryan about how his state’s GOP learned to stop worrying and love the loon. We’ll cover all Kari Lake’s litigation — she’s having no luck as a plaintiff, and even less as a defendant. And we’ll talk about what’s next for Democrats and Republicans in the Grand Canyon State. Links: Richer v. Lake Complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23858088-richer-v-lake Petersen v. Fontes Case Docs (via Democracy Docket) https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/arizona...

Mar 11, 20241 hrEp. 11

Ep 10 - Ken Paxton: A Cartoon Villain Finally Goes To Trial (Feat. Dan Solomon)

On the eve of Ken Paxton’s trial for securities fraud — a mere nine years after he got indicted — Liz talks to Texas Monthly reporter Dan Solomon about the state’s embattled Attorney General. How much worse has he gotten since surviving impeachment? Will he play a role in a future Trump administration? And is this literally hell we are living in now? Links: Carroll Bond Ruling https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.315.0.pdf Ken Paxton Argues Th...

Mar 08, 202459 minEp. 10

Ep 9 - Will SCOTUS Avenge Trump By Breaking Social Media? (Feat. Corbin Barthold)

Should the government be able to order social media platforms to host political speech? Does the First Amendment even exist any more? And do we really have to side with Justice Kavanaugh on this one? Liz talks to TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold about the Netchoice cases. Links: Tech Policy Podcast ​​ https://podcast.techfreedom.org/ Moody v. Netchoice (Texas Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-555.html Moody v. Netchoice (Florida Docket) htt...

Mar 04, 20241 hr 2 minEp. 9

Ep 8 - Donald Trump: Document Thief In Chief (Feat. Kel McClanahan)

Liz talks to national security law expert Kel McClanahan about the Trump documents case in Florida and how he could use classified materials to derail the trial until after the election. Links: SCOTUS Order Granting Cert on Trump Immunity Claim https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/022824zr3_febh.pdf US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/ Classified Information Procedures Act https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...

Mar 01, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 8

Ep 7 - Alabama Courts Protect Life By Outlawing IVF (Feat. Ellen Trachman)

Liz talks to repro law expert Ellen Trachman, host of the podcast “I Want to Put a Baby in You” about the recent Alabama decision which functionally outlaws in vitro fertilization. Is this the beginning of a trend, or will Republicans course correct out of fear of the wrath of women voters? Links: Ellen Trachman at Above the Law https://abovethelaw.com/author/ellentrachman/ The “I Want to Put a Baby In You” Podcast https://iwanttoputababyinyou.com/ Alabama IVF ruling https://publicportal-api.ala...

Feb 26, 202452 minEp. 7

Ep 6 - First The Proud Boys, Then Trump (Feat. Brandi Buchman)

Liz talks to reporter Brandi Buchman about the prosecutions of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers for seditious conspiracy and how those prosecutions paved the way for Trump’s election interference case. Links: In Re: Lindell Management LLC Litigation [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67410449/in-re-lindell-management-llc-litigation/ Brandi Buchman at Law and Crime https://lawandcrime.com/author/brandi-buchman/ US v. Trump [District DC Docket via Court Listener] h...

Feb 23, 202449 minEp. 6

Ep 5 - The Trump Verdicts: Half a Billion Dollars of Winning (Feat. Jose Pagliery)

Liz talks to Daily Beast reporter Jose Pagliery about the $355 million verdict that’s really a $450 million verdict in Trump’s civil fraud trial. Plus the Carroll defamation suits, and the upcoming criminal trial in March for falsifying records to cover up the Stormy Daniels payoff. And … the state of American democracy! Justice Engoron Holding https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/452564_2022_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_v_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_DECISION_AFTER_TRIAL_1688.pdf Justice Mercha...

Feb 19, 202457 minEp. 5

Ep 4 - Trump At SCOTUS: The Insurrectionist Gets His Day In Court (Feat. Eric Segall)

With Trump’s ballot disqualification on the docket, all eyes were on SCOTUS last week. Liz talks about the argument at the Supreme Court with guest Eric Segall, and lays out the various off-ramps the justices might take to keep a criminal insurrectionist on the ballot this November. “Originalism as Faith” by Eric Segall https://www.amazon.com/Originalism-as-Faith-Eric-Segall/dp/1316640469 “Supreme Myths: Why the Supreme Court Is Not a Court and Its Justices Are Not Judges” by Eric Segall https:/...

Feb 12, 202453 minEp. 4

Ep 2 - The Trump GA RICO Debacle: How Bad Is It? (feat. Andrew Fleischman)

After allegations that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is romantically involved with the special prosecutor hired by her office, the sharks are circling both legally and politically. Is this case totally boned? Liz asks Georgia defense attorney Andrew Fleischman what’s next in this crucial election interference case. Show Links: Fulton County Docket: State of Georgia v. Donald J. Trump https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/Index/142 What Fani Willis Got Wrong in Her Trump Indict...

Feb 01, 202448 minEp. 2

Ep 1 - E. Jean Carroll Grabs Trump By The Wallet (feat. Mitchell Epner)

Description: Liz hosts former federal prosecutor Mitchell Epner to discuss last week’s massive $83 million damage award in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case. What happens when he appeals? Was it smart for Trump to testify? And WTF is up with his lawyers? Show links: Carroll v. Trump I [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [Circuit Court Docket via Court Listener] Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com...

Jan 29, 202458 min

0 - Introduction to Law & Chaos by Liz Dye

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle.

Jan 26, 20242 min
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