"YAZ HUNNI" (w/ Mike Kelton)

don't think so, honey. This is a head to head death match tournament competition, and Boone and I are going to be captain and two teams. We have an amazing blue ribbon panel. We're going to be really revealing very soon. It's gonna be very good. November seven. Coach War, New York Comedy Festival. Tickets on Stone now and then it's back to basics, bitch. On November eighteenth, we're gonna bringing our our third edition. I can't believe it's been three

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but either way, come to either show or both. We have Culture on November seven, then to York Comedy Festival, and I don't think so, honey Live Brooklyn Podcast Festival. Lally, what are you thinking right now? I'm thinking I didn't drink this coffee in the right time frame. What you drink too late? Well you'll be up on that. I drink too early. And now I'm a little crashy crash room. But no, I'm great. I'm like still there, I'm still wired.

But you know I'm I'm dangling off the cliff, bitch. Okay. I had the option to drink a coffee off or PM today and I said, you know what, no, because I don't want to be up all night because you know what that caffeine does to a bit like caffeine does wonders. How listen, you want to know something. Kombucha Update. I don't. I don't, Okay, yes, I do. Kombucha Update. Bought some Synergy ginger It's sitting in my fridge because I have no desire to drink it. Okay, Well, I'll

come over tonight and I'll have it. It's just it looks disgusting. Um. By the way, you know who sent me a picture of them and the gingerid kombucha Who Katherine Cohen? Oh, and she said, taking the advice of my bitch. So you could say that Kombucha Nation has just begune. It's like Bachelor Nation, but healthier, but health Um, do we have a good guest today? I think we have a respellndent guess maybe like a true I a true legend, a gay baron, a gay robber baron. And

I love actually so much, love him, love him. He's some of his stories have changed my life. Yeah, and actually I want I want some of them to be told. Some of them we told. And he's telling some of his stories at his amazing new show at you CB. Yeah, and that leads perfectly into the credits. Bokay, bit um, He's got an amazing show running at UCB Chelsea and it's called Yes Honey, and it is directed by the

legendary UM. You will also want to keep your eyes peeled, you guys, for the doc you follow series called Shade Queens of New York City. Now, this is a drag queen like docuseries, like slash reality show with all New York's finest. I'm talking Marty Gold Cummings, the filter, Tina Burner, he's live Bejia who just called our guests prior to us UM going on the air, and we had to kick her off. We had to kick her off because we said, no, Michael, he has a heart out. He

has a heart out. He's gonna hard out at a thirty. But he arrived a brisk twenty minutes late. I burn I put I put on blasts. Not my fault, Dad, Everyone looking, Mike Celtain, explain yourself why the lateness? Okay for real, got an invite to this UM recording, which is very professional. Kudos. But also the address was eighty one President Street, and so I went to the address I'm looking at and I'm upset. Were you guys not aware it might have been a producers fault? It was?

It was hot producer jo w HJ. So I went there and I'm just standing outside this house and this old woman came out and kept looking at me and I was like, hey for the podcast bay. She was like she just kept like staring at me and didn't say a thing. And I was like, I'm for sure we're going to be like a spell is gonna be put on me the email and I was like, Babe, here's where I'm at. And they're like, that's not where we're supposed to be. Sorry about it. Uber at the

old woman's house with a dream and a nice shirt. Okay, I'm glad it's got cleared up. And honest this is like a classic just capsule of a Mikekelton story that will like that puts you in that place. Honestly, I was there with him, you know what. He's so gifted that when he was telling us what had just happened to him, I saw it all. I saw the woman she was hunched over. Did she have a hunch, a huge hunch? Tell us about this dog? Oh my god? Okay.

So I think in life in jen like like there, you get to a point and you're like you're like, do I what do I do? Do I get a dog? Do I get a baby? Do I get engaged? Do I move out of my apartment? Do I moved back home to Indiana? Sometimes it's the sequence of those things exactly could be one, two three. So I decided. So me and Andrew have been together a while, and we've been like kind of hinting at the dog thing each other.

It's kind of scary because you're like, you get a dog with a person, you gotta be with that person, and or if you break up, it's like someone takes the dog. So it's like that you have to have that kind of precursor conversation, right, Yes, of course, who gets a dog? Yeah, So the way it happened is we were talking about dogs for a while and then we both got super busy, and then Um started working on the show. And then the first week of pre production,

I was super super tired. We went out to dinner. I didn't have any free time. We're at we're sitting outside of our favorite restaurant, Building on Bond in Brooklyn. Okay, we're going to talk about building on Bonds. Okay, Okay, I have some isshoes, but keep going. Okay, Okay, I'm into talking about it. Okay, okay, We're at building a bond. We're sitting outside and I was like, just like venting to Andrew what happened all the time, And He's like,

what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just so stressed. I didn't know that this was going to be this must work. And I was like, the only thing that could make this better is a dog. And he was like, you're an idiot. That's like impossible. But then then what happens. My wallet falls out of my back pocket in my short it's okay. An hour later, a woman comes by walking with the dog, and the dog sniffs my wallet and finds my wall because I would have forgot it. And I go, oh my god, what a gem of

a dog. And she goes for adoption, babe, and I that very dog, that very dog, Oh my god, And I go, no way, babe. So then we like are obsessed with his dog. His name was Django, Django wild anyway, So we we end up going I know, it's honestly wild. So we go back to this woman's apartment, we have wine with her. Um we realized like she's a little bit unstable, so we like we had to get up. But then we just applied online at badass Brooklyn and

incredible organization. We applied were like four lasses of wine in and so we made this amazing application that talked all about us and our experiences where we want a dog. And then they were back next day, was like Django has actually been adopted, but like we've got Curtis, and

you were like, Curtis is not Django exactly. We thought he was ugly, ugly, he was ugly, and so we were like, well, we'll just wait around because it's not the time and right, and then we went to an adoption event and we just like literally fell in love with Curtis. And he's so Curtis Curtis better looking in person. Oh gorgeous person. Am I right? Can I tell you something? So Andrew came into Brooklyn Crab with a friend and one Sarah Grace Wellborn was waiting on Andrew and I

happened to be on the very same floor. So I was walking around, you know, doing my thing, and I would see out to the corner of my eyes Sarah Grace talking to Andrew, her old friend, and she came over to me and said, I feel really bad, and I said what she said, Well, Andrew had mentioned before that he and Mike are thinking about getting a dog, and to be honest, me and the girl he's with, we're like trying to talk him out of it. And she said she thought he saw she thought she saw

tears well up and he put his sunglasses on. Can I tell you something reveal? He was a little bit upset because he really wanted the dog, and I think they were being good friends. They were honestly being good friends because they were like, look, you guys are really busy. His dog is a big responsibility, and so they were kind of doing like what they should have done. But he was like, you know, in love with you think about it a lot, you build it up in your hat,

and you fall in love with the dog. And so that got back to you. Okay. I came home and he was like, so I talked about the dog, and he's like, I don't think they were fully upboard with Sarah felt terrible and he came over to me, and she is my work wife, my work spouse, and she said to me, babe, I feel terrible. I so it comes it down. You're at work, coming We left the floor, I said, what's going on, babe? I put my hand

through her hair, right through the air. She said, Wow, I just felt really stressed because I feel like I just might have hurt Andrew's feelings. And I was like, well, I'm sure he's fine. I'm sure he's not weeping at the table. Before you know it a full scene in the restaurant. He cried, carry it out and I'm just kidding. Oh god. I was like, he didn't tell me that. No, no, no, no, although his sunglasses were on, which for him is just like if it's after after six pm, sunglasses are on.

Are you and Andrew both like, um, sunglassgates? No, definitely sunglass gates. And we're like kind of opposites, which is I was gonna ask, are you both like that sensitive? I feel like you're not. You are someone who is a feeling person, but only for the things that really I'm gonna say, matter, Oh, that's that's nice, and would you agree with that? Maybe that's maybe that's an unfairsism.

I am very empathetic. Were like I take on people's energy and like I when there's like big issues going on in the world, I like take it on and I get really upset about it. Um and I am pretty sensitive. We're kind of both sensitive, but we just deal with it in different ways. So would you have reacted responded the same way in that's you if your friends, if you're like some of your close friends were like,

maybe it's not a good idea. I think I would have told them in the moment, been like, you guys are hurting my feelings. Yes, you would have. And I think he I think he kind of did come like with a little bit of that, but I think he was just like he was really listening to their advice because he I mean, because they did not have a point. They had a point, and they they said what they should have said in that moment, but like that didn't stop us, and we got Kurt. Kurt, he's the best.

And here's the other thing this is this is like because I'm so busy, I hate hearing this later, but like I can afford to pay for dog. I liked help. We got a lot of help. You know. Look, I have the means I was someone Today I was reading this profile on New York Magazine about Lisa Ling and like what her life is like, and she like gets real about like childcare. She's like, I'm so grateful, like

an afford childcare when so many mothers can't. A team, and then someone someone in the comments is like, I'm it's so refreshing for someone who has money to be up front about having access to that. I was like, is it refreshing? I mean, like it's great, just like appreciate the honest, appreciate the honesty. But it's like, no, great, It's like, yeah, no, that's just a matter of fact thing, like you have it or you don't, and it's great

if you have it. And it's because if you don't, I think logistically, like it would be really tough to have a day where like we were both he was at school and grad school right now, and I was gone all day and I would be like I don't want to leave. It's not nice to do. But since we can bring him to doggy daycare, it feels like a possibility. Great. I also think sometimes it pisces a lot of mothers off when they read these stories about like Hollywood moms who do it all, and they never

mentioned the fact that they have helped. It's like, don't pretend like you're this superwoman who has this twenty million dollar a film career and also is like there for everything and meeting all the teachers and knows their names. Like that I think would piss me off as a mother. So it's kind of nice to hear when people are being super honest about the fact that, like, yes, I have a team, Please don't think that, like I honestly

know what they're doing in schools. The same thing where like Erica Jane will be like, look, I spent four hours on this face, Like I have a full team that did my hair and makeup, and that's why I look amazing. If you were to see me waking up, I would look like ship, which is that honestly, we appreciate that. Okay, I see that tell us about Kurt what kind of what kind of breed, whatever, everything tell us, so no one knows what he is and everyone is

like everyone has their own opinion. Like when we got him, they said Bowl masstif the website, which the thing about bowl massifs is they can become like a hundred pounds and huge dogs like Kurts like and they said he was in between one and two, which also like our Vette disagreed with. And that was like, there's no way he's even one, and we were like, really, yeah, they think it's like puppy. So like we we've kind of like if we average everything out based on everyone's ideas

about how old and what he is. He is a bull mastiff pit boxer. He's a bit of who is one years old. We'll just call him one one and it's a it's a male dog. It's a male dog. Yes, it's not a female name. Kurt No, I thought that would be fun, that it would be fine, it'd be a real nice fuck you two Republicans. I'll tell you that all these Republicans out there saying dogs the gender gender normal names, they're out there saying that that's true. That's honestly a very good point, which brings me to

talk about gender neutrality. Um, why can I be really vulnerable for a moment. I want you to open up. Calton found me out of Starbucks in a really in a really i'm not gonna say low place, but in a really specific place. You are a guardian angel. No no, and he didn't. I don't know if he saved me because what he did was what I did. What I did was one on Craigslist, bought a gaming laptop for six remember, and I took it to a Starbucks to

start downloading some patches for this game. And who should walk in but the warm but towering physicality of Mike Calton and what's And then he was just like, what's that like? Basically was just like asking what I was doing? And I had I was just very honest. I was like, I just bought this computer with six dollars in cash, um, and how I need to start downloading this game so that I can it can download while I'm at work.

And he round the shamed me. And I don't know if I've recovered from oh my god, you didn't you took a picture? You took you took a picture of me on your Instagram story and people people texted me, they were like, I just saw you on Mike Calton's Instagram storey are you okay? And UM, I don't know. I think I think I owe an apology. Wow, oh my god, I will for sure apologize. No, but the thing is I will not do this, but I take

it back. That's fair, that's fair. I thought that was going to have a positive twist because I had a story about running into Kelton. I have a million of those stories. I feel like you just appear sometimes because like my golly, I don't see you a lot, but

I see you when it counts. Bitch. Was right after I literally left the audition for the CBS Diversity Show, and I had such like a I really didn't want to go do that, but I had a film like I booked and a long behold we did buck and then it didn't end up happening for like crazy, wild reasons.

But I remember I said to you, I was like, I don't want to do this, and you were like, you have to to do what you want to do and create work and not be like being a part of like something that you don't want to be a part of. And then I I ended up like saying I would do it and everything. But in the back of my head, I always knew that was true, and I knew you were right, and I always I was just like, no, Kelton is right, and this is not

going to happen. And then literally, like cosmically, it didn't end up happening because realistically you should not have done it. For some reason. It was you compromising, even though it felt like a success. I feel like this happens a lot to a lot of our friends were like, we there's all this pressure on us because of what we're doing,

and there's no actual road to success. So we like to create like an idea, a roadmap of like, well, if this happens, like it'll be successful and people will be like they're doing it, and then I'll feel better about myself. But like and that those showcases are great

for people. But the way that you expressed it to me, you were like, I did this, and the energy around it is like I did what I think they wanted me to do, and like I know, as like someone who's audition for that off, I'm like, I'm gonna go in and like do some gay stuff, you know what I mean, Like it's a diversity thing. I'm gonna like I'll do a woman at a wedding, you know, like I'll do I'll do like a gay thing, and then

I'll do an animal or something like. And and like your energy was telling me that it was like authentic, inauthentic for you, and you were like, but I did a really good job at like what I think they wanted. And so I was telling you, like listen to that gut and don't fit into other people's mold, because I think there's like I think that's what kills people in this industry is like fitting into a mold and like

knocking it out of the park. And then when they get the success, they look around and people are looking to them of like who are you as an artist, and they're like, not what you like? Ship? What are now?

And you were one of the first people like in the well, in the UCB community, or really even in the comedy community at large, that I saw that was really doing their own thing that I looked up to because you were like doing your gay ass thing and like it was you and like Josh and Aaron like and like BSJ Like I just like looked up to you guys because I thought, you know, they're not doing it the way everyone else does it, and they're doing it in a way that I get and I know

that other people are going to get and it's meaningful and I was and that's huge. Like you, I remember, I like I felt like I scored in their performance early on, for like, while you were in the audience at the pit and you went to leave the audience and I ran out to go like talk to you because I wanted your validation seriously, like I love you. Oh my god, that's so nice. I do. I love you. I've always looked up to you so much. Every Like I remember when I first met you in the Pit

Love Bar. I was like I went up to and I was like, I'm actually like a big fan, and you were friends with Doug and you were like, oh my god, who is this crazy fucking bitch. No, I like, it's so funny because I genuinely was like, I was like, this guy is fucking adorable and super authentic, and like the fact that you said that, and I was a big fan of you. I which, well, I was a big fan of the both of you because I talk

to you. Every time I would pitch something, I would always include you, and then we were like kind of similar, so I would be like, well, if up up Madden, it's like I gotta take myself out of here. Like, but I when you said that to me, I remember that, and I was like, You're so funny and you're both like you're both very loud and like this is who

I am. So when you said to me, I was like, you're already doing that, Like I I see that in you, and it's it's kind of like the confidence that allows you to go up to and be like, hey, I love what you do. That allows you to, I think, like do what you do, but you're not making sense. It really does. It's a it's a setting of it's a setting free of yourself, but it's you need to see an example of that that that just sort of happening by example. And my my, my sort of seared

Celton memory is a fancy man show. I was like, it is an indicage match, and I think you just this is all you said, Like your character was like screaming really loudly, and like I think something like Henry Russell Bergstin was like why are you where are you talking so loudly? And then you just said I have I have deaf, I have deaf And it was so no, and I'm not saying no it was I swear it

was not like able as Journey thing. It was just like it was just like an earned funny moment and I will never forget it because it was so goddamn funny in the moment and like, Okay, there's just Jamie Stoles to host this podcast called The Waiting Game, and then Mike Helum was one of the first guests, and he tells these amazing stories about like what he felt like we're his and I don't know if it's I'm just gonna say this for you, like you felt like you had hit rock bottom after you got stuck in

your boss's elevator. Can you can you tell this story? Because I think I think everyone everyone needs to hear the story because it is it's it's amazing, it's so stressful, and just to hear Mike sort of coming back from that moment and like seeing where he is now is I think so inspiring. Lost Cultures listeners. I'm excited for you. Yeah, okay, do you do you mind ever putting on this spot? No? No,

I'm happy to share all all this stuff. Um. I always feel like, in general, like a thesis of like before I tell this is like the worst things that happened to you. I always think are going to end up being like your biggest power, like Upaul says, the things that make you different or the things that fit you fail at are like your superpowers when you realize

how to like use them. But so this story. I I when I was coming up at UCB, I worked as an executive assistant at a law firm and Chelsea and I got the job like kind of as a mistake for this woman, who like I met at a gym, was like, hey, I'm looking for an assistant and I was just like, I don't have a job and I'm

taking comedy classes, so like I'll do it. And she was like at the time, was super sweet, and we like we became friends and it became a relationship where like I was working for her, but we were friends. So we would go out a lot and then I did stuff for the firm. But it was like, I think you shouldn't be friends with your employees, like in general.

Um is something I learned from that. So I had apartments at her place for years and watched her dogs, her adorable dogs, and was like very fun with it, very used to it. And so this is DCM weekend, twenty DCM weekend. Also, okay, Pride weekend, can we change that? Great? It's not so great. So it was um DCM weekend and I was house sitting for my boss and so I was at McManus on the Thursday night and I mentioned to like someone I think like Josh or Aaron.

I was like, well, they were like, we should do something for gay Pride, and I was like, well, my boss's common roof spaces in Chelsea right near the theater. We could do like a little drinks thing from like five to seven and then people can go to their pride stuff or go back to DCM or whatever. It was totally reasonable. I mean, I mean, the more I go back to this story, the more I'm like, it's insane. How this how the universe fucked me because I saved me.

It's not like you were doing anything like out of the question. Okay, keep going, because yeah, I'm like the first person to be like inappropriately like like anyway. So so I invite people over and like it. It started with like five people and ended up being like twelve of us, like kind of twelve of us. So UCB Gates like the sweetest best people in the world. You

love them, you do sometimes you cattle them. So like it's five pm Sunday afternoon after like crazy DCM weekend, um, and I like the way that it happens is like the elevator goes up to the top floor so no one was going into the apartment right. People were just coming up to the roof and it ended up like Brandon Scott Challenge. But was like, hey, can I bring someone else? I was like, of course, I know all

these people. So we're up there. We're literally drinking champagne and like having like one or two beers and like sharing stories. It's like it's like the thing you can think of, um. And so after two hours, it's like seven o'clock, I'm like, all right, that's it. Like we all clean up with like and I'm like being fastidious about them, like, let's clean up. I want to make sure that no one like leaves anything up here. We

put all of the bottles into these plastic bags. We have these jingling bags, and we get in the elevator and like it's like seven of them are in, and then there's like eight of them in and I was like and someone I don't know who it was, but like maybe Brian Fonts, I don't know. I was like, I was like, let's just all, let's just all get in the elevator and I'm like and people have had a couple of drinks and I'm like yeah, I was like let's all squeeze in this elevator. We're sweaty, we're

in tank tops. Some of us have fucked each other, like anyway, So we get in the elevator, doors close. It literally goes down like six inches and stops like six inches because because it's to have and here's the deal. I'm like, I'm like, oh, like uh, reset, like you're pressing like the reset button or whatever, and it just moving a tiny bit like and then just stopping and and it's really you couldn't move in this elevator like it was like sucking. Like it was like it was

like the duplex like in this elevator. Literally there was a piano. It literally wanted to be so so like people are everyone's this is hysterical to everybody. Got me to accept me because I'm like, oh, this is my job, like and I did not tell my boss was having these people over because in my mind, I was like, it's a common roof space. It's like five to seven,

No one's it's there, they'll be gone whatever. And because it was Sunday, the elevator company wasn't working, so I called the number and they were like some woman was literally in the office being like f y, I were closed, Like what are you doing? Then just like you need to call the fire department, so called the fire department. Um, not one, not too but three fire trucks came to this apartment building. We were in there for an hour and the fireman came, go ahead, one elevator in the

whole building. One elevator whole building. And it's the thing. It's one of those buildings where the elevator opens up to one apartment or the other side apartment. So people that lived in this building was a small like maybe like twelve units in the building, but like very very nice. It is a very nice building. And so everyone was like we can't like get up to bring our groceries. If there was a pregnant woman, she couldn't get up to go home. So an hour goes by and people

are cracking jokes and I'm literally like sweating. I'm like, my job, my job, my job, my jomba job, a job. And at the time I couldn't I couldn't pay my rent if I didn't make money from this job. It was like why I didn't leave this job? And so then it's happening around to that literally literally yep, yep, and they were good bits like if I wasn't if I wasn't having anxiety attack, I would have been like

I love love love. So so then the fire department comes up and they couldn't get the door open, so they had to break the elevator door by like like jamming it open, and they broke into a neighbor's apartment. They broke down the fire door there like the full on fired or like broke it down because I thought it was an emergency. I mean it was. And so then they let us out and all of us walk down the fire exit of this building with every tenant in the building screaming at us, who the fuck are

you guys? What apartment are you from? What the funk is going on? And like and who was it? Um Bryan Williams walking down like god in someone's face and like honestly like god bless because they were being aggressive to us. But I was like, please think of me.

Think of like the fact that like there's a person who I'm working for and like got in someone's face, and someone got in his face and I think he was like, you know, fuck you, or like there was some type of like push or something, and we got out to the street and I will never forget this. Like some I'm gonna throw a little bit shade. Some people were like steal in Kiki world and they were like we're out, like let's go to the bar. And I was like having a panic attack, and like Brian

Foss was that just sweetie? Like there were a couple of people that really checked in were like are you okay? But Boss, like what can I do for you right now? And I was like I just need to like walk around the block and get some air. So I daddy, So I called my boss. I literally like this is the person I am. I called her right away and I was like crying. I was like, here's the deal, was like, this is what happened. She's like, are the dogs okay? And I was like the dogs are fine.

I was like I put them in doggy daycare because I didn't want them not paying because I knew I was gonna be out on that at TCM, like I was like being super proactive even though she hired me to want to talk to the weekend but I'm talking.

But I was like super proactive about everything, and so she was like it's totally fine, like my neighbors are crazy, and then cut to like three days later, I go into her office and she fired me, And I think, like the co op board really put the pressure on of like this guy out of rager and liked and so like they put pressure on her and she felt that stress. So I got fired and it was like I literally was like, I don't know how I'm going to pay my rent. I have a wedding to go

to this weekend. I'm twenty six. I can't even afford to get to this wedding or give a wedding gift. Like it was. It was so bad, But like the moral of the story is I had for a good year. I had written drafting, like three draft emails to my boss quitting being like you're amazing, thank you for this opportunity and this paycheck, but I need to leave and like be a creative person, I can't be working in

a law firm. And I never hit sent send, And I you know what, when you're sad, like and you buy a computer for the video games, like you like can't you can't get past it. You can't be proactive about like making that hard decision. I couldn't do it, and so like, thank god the elevator broke because it forced me to like be on unemployment and be super poor for a year and a half and like work on what I should be working on, which is like

being a fucking nutcase now. But how long did it take you to get to a place of even like being happy again after that happened? Was that, like were you like in the depths for like a couple a little while. What's so weird about it is when I was fired, I like was overcome with like sadness and I was packing up the stuff like I was fired. I had to leave like this person who had known for three years my desk, and I'm like packing up

my stuff and walking out of the store. And as soon as I got to the street with all of my stuff, I felt amazing. Really literally was like, oh, I was like, this is it. This is my fucking ticket. Like think it's just when ship happens, that's really bad. I think the moment after you realized like that had to happen, there's some kind of relief. And then I went to like I'm lucky that my dad works New York. So I went to my dad's office and I cried to my dad and I was like, you're a fucking idiot.

Like here, we're gonna get you a phone. So I he had to get me a phone because my phone was on the firm's It was like it was bad. Did your friendship with her survive or was that also over? Um? We didn't talk for like a good two years. And then because we were friends and like we we were friends and she I forget who was one of us, emailed each other and was like, hey, let's let's connect and then we got drinks and we like we hashed

it out. We had like that conversation. I was like, I apologize, like what happened sucked, and she's like, I apologize, and I'm actually going to next week the firm's fifteen year anniversary, which is like cool and and that's like, um, and I mean, I don't know, this sounds sort of petty, but it's like you get to just show everybody like where you are now, and it's it's this much by

a beautiful gown. Let me just arrive like like posing as if there's a red carpet, like like they're up on the on the line of paparazzi and like just like I don't know, I'm doing it like my post right now that I would do if I were like it's good. It's like it's like it's Chloe. It's like I'm trying to think I'm channeling right now. I think like prime, her prime even Longori, oh yeah, her six month prime. It was many years sid Um waiting on

for the story. Can you I almost want you to name name is that you can just say now who no, no no, no, who who is like still in key che mode after all of us? Can you tell us? Because I feel like it's been long enough where you can just say it and it's like, no harm. Do you remember just like bye, they were like by I mean like they're such funny people. They were just like they were like you'll realize one day how funny this is. Like that's I never know what you want to hear

the moment at all. No, not at all, but like that makes total sense and like that not I've never seen either of them be upset over anything. Yeah, they don't get upset, they don't get up. I feel like sometimes with Um, with Josh, I feel like we've been hanging out and I said something sincere, and I think he looked at me and burned a hole in my soul. I was like, I was like, yeah, really, and he's

like Okay. I was like, Josh, and he's just one of those people that like, I think he's I always think that Josh and Aaron are like quicker than me. We like sometimes I'm trying to catch up with the jokes a little intimidating at first because they're so fucking funny, icons so funny. Wait, okay, we're gonna ask you what we ask all of our guests on the show, which is what is the culture that made you say? Culture

is for me? Yeah, this is the culture as you were growing up, Like, I don't know what happens at different agess for different people. You know, ten twelve, fourteen, movies, films, television are situational thing the culture that really caused you, Michael Kelton, to step into the world of culture. Great, Um, I think I understand the question and perfectly. Yeah, it's part of the show that we make the question in a little fucked up okay, because it has to sound

a little different each time. Okay, okay, I will jack a little pill. Oh my god Jack A little pill is like very much. I feel like what to find me as a little gay boy, because I was like I was angry, but then I was like blissfully unaware, and then I was just like jamming, Oh, when to your house, act in your room, open the door without ringing a bell. It's really good. It's not that good.

But that song is like the hidden track, and people don't I think, no, it as well as they should, yes, because I feel like they turned the album off when the last song ends. But you have to keep listening track. But this is interesting because I feel like you weren't. I wouldn't call you an rule number. You have to listening to the hidden track. I feel like you're not an angry person now it. I don't think. I don't think Atlantis. I mean, wow, this is gonna be a

hot take. I don't think Atlantis was an angry person. I think she was a smart person. Like someone who's angry gets broken up with and they like they burned the house down, or they like go after the person or smash the windows out their car. But a smart person writes a song that becomes a number one hit that makes that person feel like the biggest douchebag the rest of their life. Oh and you think that's what happened to Atlantis. You don't think she ever acted on

those feelings. You think she just wrote them out. You think had she actually been confronted, she would just be like, UM, okay, I actually need to like step away from the situation. Yeah, Or she'd be like, oh, I don't care, like like I feel like with with like uh storytelling, that's what. Like I have trouble in the moment when stuff really upsets me, Like I can be like I have trouble sticking up for myself because I like to make other

people feel comfortable. But like like the situation where where I got fired, Like I when she fired me, I sat, I stood in her office and I just cried and I kept saying I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry because I I couldn't stick up for myself and I couldn't be like what you're not realizing is this this? And this?

So as an artist, like I just was like I'm gonna like I am witnessing this and I'm gonna use it and I'm going to tell people these the story that will like hopefully help other people or make them laugh or whatever. Um And that's how like it's like the weird way that I experienced life too. Like I always know that in a relationship, if I start storytelling about that relationship, it's kind of a bad thing because

it means I'm not dealing with the issues with that person. Um. So in that way, that's like a like a long winded way to say that. With Atlantis, I like, I was like, I get you. Girls. That's so interesting that your response to conflict us to like retreat and apologize, because mine is fully to be very differentive and argumentative. I've noticed that about myself, I mean different strokes. It's

it can be helpful to be that way. Like I think sometimes I really wish I could just be like shut the funk up right now and listen to the real situation. But I just like accept things. I'm one of those kids that always was like I was never in trouble, and if people were like you did this, I was like, you're right, and you know what, I apologize Like I was like, even if I didn't do it,

I always took responsibility for things. Yeah, So Atlantis, that was ninety six, So this was like I guess early teens, like no, n I was nine oh nine, Oh, so you were kind of you were feeling feelings that really you had no right to feel a bit. It was from a past life. I was really feeling. I thought you would have been like and you know there, I can feel you know, you feel like brnon downahous, or at least you think you do. But at age nine,

I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I was. I was kind of a quiet I was, believe it or not. I was like a quiet, very weird kid where I could play by myself and I just was like I was on the swim team, so I would be at the pool and I love to run around of my speedo and like play imagination with myself. Like I was a very very weird but like confident kid where people were like, you're weird. I was like, I'm actually having

a glass. That's great. Oh that's great. And then the other thing I would say culturally is um um sorry, I can't think of the name. It's not Mean Girls. It's clueless to me when like I think Mean Girls

is an incredible movie. But I feel like the generation gap is is do you relate to clueless or do you relate to Mean Girls, and I, you know what's funny is like I Cluels came out when I was like five, and then Mean Girls came out when I was fourteen, So I guess looking at them both now, it's weird because I didn't get clueless at the time when I came out, because who's five and gets clue? Literally, like most like teenagers don't get clueless. It's like so smart.

But there was something about that movie that and that now looking back, I feel more than Mean Girls because Mean Girls is more of like a Tina Face style, like making jokes about these things, like it's very rational. Yeah, and it but whereas Clueless it felt different. It was like jokes about it was about high schools, but about the world, you know, the world of the movie. That's

what I mean. It's just like they're wearing these fucking crazy hats like this, you know, like it's normal to like I don't, it's just normal to look like the way they look like in high school. And yeah, maybe

it because it was an Austin adaptation. Honestly, it was like based on a classical like work in a way, like it had that kind of timeless quality to it, whereas Mean Girls feels like its own self contained story that only could have been written at that time, whereas like Clueless has this like kind of timeless story of like you know, it feels a clue. This was like a stamp of a generation, whereas Mean Girls is like

a really good comedy movie. Yeah, I think that's it, and like great one liners like me, I mean you Girls is like a standalone great film, but like people quoted because it's just like joke. It's like Tina fe It's and I do think it's interesting too. If you compare, I'm gonna get all weird right now. If you compare like, um, Lindsay Lohan's character to um no, Britney Murphy, because those were both the new understart that became the Queen Bee.

There was a difference in the way that Britney Murphy's character became the Queen Bee. It wasn't like it was to me. It wasn't purely about manipulation. It was like about people bringing her up and then when she got there, she was like, this isn't really me, whereas like, um, this is really hard to explain it. It feels like an Excel chart in my head but like which I hate, um, but it feels like it feels Lindsay Lohan's character was

like doing it as a game. She was like, She's like, in order to beat these people, I'm gonna play this game, where Brittany Murphy was blissfully being like sure, like yeah, I'll do this. Yeah, this is how you act here, yes, where it was like her being introduced to the nineties as opposed to like, um, you know, Lindsay Lohan like playing the game and trying to like undercut the bitch,

you know at the end of the day. I think they often get grouped together, but two totally different, totally totally like it's like and it's almost like unfair to both to like have them compete. But I think people do it with mean girls and with Heathers, I with Clueless, where they're kind of defining like girl driven team comedies and they exist there. And I don't know, I guess it's about time one of the like there's a new one because it really isn't that's crazy. I mean girls

years ago, Um, what was that movie with what's her face? A? Not? No, I wouldn't count easy. I wouldn't either neither. It doesn't seem as impact that that girl it's Hayley Steinfeld was in that movie of seventeen. I hear it's like people were saying at the time, like critics were saying at the time, that it's like of that sort of caliber, like I feel like I gotta watch it. So I mean,

what am I saying? I'm just bringing it up as like a reference, like that's maybe the closest thing we have to that, which is sad, But it's interesting that it's probably time, you know what I mean, because really the fact that we're talking about it means it's in the ether and it's we're ready, or it means that we should have a gaily. Oh how do you do that? I was you put your tongue on the roof of your mouth. You it's really more of a click than it is a pop. Okay, I'm gonna truck. Well that's

bo that's bow and now Matt, I am known me. Yeah, see you're doing a tongue click. You're like you're you're you're like raising your tongue up and then like, so what it's really more driven by one side of your mouth. So oh, so go on, try try doing like a like a like a she looks really, she looks really, I don't know, and I'm not good at that. I mean, this is a great segway. This is a great segue into shade Queens of New York City, Queens of New

York City, Queens of NY City. So this is a guess can we expect like a Real Housewives style show. It's still in development, like you're still working through it. We have a locked one oh one, we have a fine cut of two of one oh two. So like the pilot is the one is done, um and we are. It's funny when you like, when you make up pilot, you like figure out the style of stuff, but when you know you have to start working on episode two and three, you're like, this is what it is? Like

this you're figuring out as you go. And so it's really interesting because the characters these queens are fucking incredible. They're like there's such dynamic human beings that like I keep learning more about them, and I'm like, I want to show the world that, Like, I think the idea for the show was I was talking to Marty gold Cummings like over a year ago, and he met with me to pitch a documentary of him moving home to Maryland and running from mayor, and I was like, bitch,

what it's like, did that really happen? He wanted to and I was like, that's really interesting, but I was like,

tell me why you want to do that. And then he started talking about how he's like he started doing all these fundraising shows and getting super politically active, and how all these queens were like doing shows to raise money for a queen who was beaten on the subway, and like all of these things that really to me subverted the expectations of like what like top of rain, what you think of when you think of drag, which is like like fierce people, funny people, RuPaul's drag, race

Um living for them like but not like this kind of like all of the heart behind it, which has always been there, like since the beginning of gay culture. Drag queens were the people that were like uplifting the community. But I just think you don't people don't see that, at least in media to me. So I was like,

what's the story behind that? And so then I met with all of these queens and interviewed them about the community in New York about what they do in their day to day lives, and I was like, oh my god, Like that's a show. You guys are a show. And so then like pitching this show, people are like, yeah, drag queens, but like we hear a lot about drag queens, and I was like, this show isn't just drag queens.

It's like the human beings behind them. You don't hear a lot about drag queens either, because you're being right now with drag Race, which I would consider like maybe is the only media outlet that exists right now. You're fedest specific fun competitive and that that changes everything, of course, and it's like it's like, oh, why have a favorite end it's this person? But with this it's like no, it's not about like who's better, It's just about their

human stories exactly, what like what makes them tick? What, what do they believe? What is their style of drag? Like why does why does Brittain filter do drag as opposed is to like, uh, Tina Bernard, is it different

or is it the same thing? I know. It's like as gay men and performers, like we all are, it's like there's a reason why we like to make people laugh, and it's I think it's a part of growing up and having to make other people laugh at the point of shame that we feel like we're wrong to begin with. So there's something really magical and special about us. And I think more so with drag performers, because not only do they like I want to perform, but they're like,

I'm gonna dress as a woman. I'm gonna be a gag myself, right, I'm going to be a clown, make people laugh, make people feel good, and communicate something that

ultimately makes other takes away other people's pain. And most of those people are gay men in gay bars, and I just think that's so universal for where we are right now as a society of like we're so divided and everything is pretty fucked up that like, if you can empathize with these drag performers, Like my goal with whatever I make is always like to show it to my dad and have him be like, that's really cool.

My dad was like a he's a lawyer who's grew up Republican, and like, if he can be like these fucking drag queens rock, I like, I love that. So it's it's interesting and also scary because you're making a drag show with a community online that are like waiting for like another drag race type thing and it's just not going to be that, which is which is sort of how it should be. Yeah, I'm just nervous that people are gonna be like, like, where's the like, where's

the like fierceness, where's the reading? Yeah, yeah, where's them being like oh no, bitch. Like there are moments of that because they drag queens performed, but like it's mostly like there's like really beautiful moments where like Britta facetimes with her mom with her mom and talks about like struggling with her health issues and like how she her mom at the end of this call goes goes, you got this baby, You're my favorite drag queen, And I'm like, ah,

that's so special, Like people need to see that. That's like some kid growing up in Iowa, some fifteen year old k that's like I want to do drag but like it's too scared too, because he's like, my mom will disown me if you can watch the show with his mom. Have to see the mom be like, oh, that mom is supportive and that mom is fucking Mormon, Like, how cool. So brought her mom to a show once and she was so sweet, so sweet, so so sweet.

We love him. I've been to like calls it like for like this scenes where she's not a calm like we just want you to talk to Jesse and like just like be your beautiful self. She's like that's it, and I'm like, that's it. So fun. I mean, and that is and just people being like, where's the where the tongue pops? Whereas the reading like that is just a prescriptive. People don't understand that it's an edited, yeah, within an inch of its life thing. Even RuPaul admits it.

They produced the funk out of that. Yeah. I think that's like a direct quote. So it's like, especially with a competitive show, like it's extremely well done and I think it's great that it exists because it opened people's

eyes up to it. I mean, I showed my dad an episode one episode of drag Ras and it happened to be the reunion of this year where they were where they were like and it was like I was like, you know, this isn't a normal episode at three, and he's like, I want to watch it and his takeaway, and he keeps saying this. Every time my sister and I talked about it was, you know, I was struck by how honest they are with each other. They all seem very open to critique, and they're just able to

really talk about each other very honestly. And I've never seen anything like that, because I think that's different frustrate people. Oh yeah, I think honesty, especially in like suburban areas, like you don't talk to each other to your faces about what's real. Like you wouldn't welcome to someone in the grocery store and be like, hey, your daughter is being shitty to my daughter, and or maybe they would, but but no, but but mothers and subreb we are

drag queens and they need to know that. But like, especially with men, you know what I mean, Like you don't you don't get real with each other in that way and anybody, how's it? How's it going? Pretty good? Bro? Amazing? It's certainly not the name you're welcoming, but that's really I mean, you're not far off from it. They don't, they don't speak like that. So I think it's interesting

to hear that. His poll was, that's interesting, how they're so honest with each other and how they you know, read each other to filth and that's okay, but meanwhile, honesty is also this like human thing and that's just your dad responding to, oh, these are human beings. And I think that, I mean, hopefully, I think that's probably what Shade Queens of NYC is going to do. Yeah,

I mean, that's that's my hope for it. And there's it's really cool because you'll see in the first episode it's very much about it's called It Takes a Village Girl. Um initially was bitch and the network was like, no, it takes a Village Girl. And it's about like kind of Marty's activism. Literally started this club in Hell's Kitchen called Hell's Kitchen Democrats, and it's started like three members in a living room and now there's like hundreds of members.

Friend Carlson that I think, oh yeah, and they meet every week. And Marty, which is like a real I think people are going to see the show and be like, you created these things, and I'm like, no, this is real. Marty has his therapy show right after Hell's Kitchen Democrats, so he goes in face to the meeting and like you know, boy and face on and he like leads this meeting. He's like, hi, everyone, here's our new initiative.

We're like we want to like, um, get out the word and have people like uh greate safe spaces for people. And he gives this whole speech. He's in face and he's like, I know, in face, but like I'm a drag queen, so like it over it and it's like it's just and then he puts up these posters and it's like it's really beautiful because you're like, this is just a human being. Like his drag has really nothing like I think maybe a byproduct of the show is some parts like the drag has nothing to do with it.

It's just like these are really awesome people, which is so cool. Um wait, we have a funny Marty gold Coving love. When Matt and I went to go see um sense of Boulevard, Marty Cummings went to and was like was like in full drag, and I think I forgot what she said, but she like she like greed it. She said she's had hello and she goes, I can't wait for this fucking drag showed it because it's Glenn Close being really serving and Marty Gold was there and it was it was very fun to see her and

like Fishy drags great. Yeah, like d like a fucking curly ponytail, which is that you never I never see Marty like that because Marty actually didn't start This is part of an episode two Marty's I'm like giving way everything. But Marty didn't start wearing wigs until Drag Race because drag Race auditions are this crazy thing. Yeah, I was going to ask, is that a topic with the girls on the show. We are steering clear of it because

we don't want to. We don't want to funk with World of Wonder, Like I know they have this like monopoly of like drag television shows. It's intense and I don't want to like sunk with them, Like here's our show, this is our aim, and I don't want to like there to be any reason of that. But um, that being said, Marty didn't. Marty didn't start wearing wigs until like his third time auditioning for drag Race because he was like, oh, everyone in drag Race has a wig.

It's like a big part of the show, Like, don't take off your wig. You know, like this is a part of drag. You have to yeah, of course, but like Marty, Marty, like it wasn't a part of his dragon now is a part of his drag. And so I found that to be interesting because it's like, what and now he does wear wigs and you're like this, that doesn't seem Marty too to you. And to be honest, as Marty's friend, I think Marty looks best when he's

in boy hair and face. To be honest, it's an iconic look for You're like, you're like, oh, that's a Marty coming exactly. I like that, Like I'm like, it looks he looks like LaRue to me, Chechi Laru, you know, like bulletproof. Yeah yeah, oh my god, yeah, oh yeah,

that's great. It's so interesting when you talk to a drag queen and you ask them that you bring it up, like, um, I wouldn't name any names now, but the thing is like when you bring up the show to certain queens, like and you ask if they have auditioned, it's kind of like a roll of the eyes or like or whatever, but you get the sense that it's like this thing

that they all kind of hate. But would be on in a second, like it's the relationship with the show is so strange thing about it, like a Carol Night or like like us Now, yeah, that's a that's a really good example. It's like as comedians in New York, there are incredible comedians. Ever you can go to like any show at like any of the theaters in Europe will be like that person is fucking hysterical? Who is

that person? And then like they're on a team for a while and they do it and they're like just a comedian in New York and they never get the acclaim. But then there are people that rides up super quickly that get us and now that are also super talented, but it doesn't mean those other people are not super talented.

And I think for drag Race, it's become like drag Race has made drag thankfully part of pop culture, which is great for everyone and the LGBTQ community because like everyone celebrating something that started with us, but it's also made it like so they can't feel successful now unless they get on that show. And like what happens for a queen like Tina Burner I think is literally one of the best queens in New York. She's been doing it for a while. She slays and she you know,

we talked about Dragon. She's like, I have auditioned. She's like, my videos get tons of views, like the producers watch and live for it. But then I'm not on and I'm like, honestly, I think they're dumb to not put you on because you would be an amazing character and she might part of our show. As we wanted the girls to be able to do drag Race, so like they can do drag race like and also be on

the show. They can also they probably would be like they would leave first season to do it, but like they can do drag race because it's a part of the drag community in New York that they're gonna want to do it. It is still aspirational no matter what. It's the sailing, it's the sailing. And I think many of the queens on the show are going to probably

make it on drag Race someday. Yeah. I think so too, and I hope so for them, Like I think they're all I love them all like so much and I want them all to succeed, which is why I put them on my show because I was like, you guys are stars. They're all incredible to the queasy assemble for it. I think that Brita Filter is like in terms of the gay community, I think that's a future household name. Because the thing with Britta and this is interesting. She She's like, I don't want to be on drag race.

I want to be the next Roup Paul And I'm like, girl, yeah, I'm like, you go do it because I could see that for you. And she even breaks outside the boundaries of like you know that kind of drag where she'll fucking do a lip SYNCX of a song with a key and peel sketch. She is, she gets it. What I would do is if I was hers, I would wait till I had fucking five thousand followers and then I would apply and then I would Bianco Delrio this ship and come in and just literally eat the competition.

Well that's the other thing, like do you do you do it when you're just like coming up and people are starting to live for you, and then you might not do superow in the competition, then that's it. Or do you wait until you're like an established queen and then you're like now they look for now I think. I mean a lot of these queens that I'm hearing going to be on the next season are big social

media queens. I'm sure you've heard the rumors and like things have been confirmed or whatever by people that we know. But like these queens that get on like they do have social media followings because you know, World of Wonder, Like any company is gonna want to have people get excited about their contestants. It's like how The Voice Now and American Idolieve and I think recruit people to audition,

you know what I mean. It's not this thing of I came in from the field and I heard there was the singing competition and I love to sing in the mirror. Let me struck on my number and see what happened. That girl's name carry Underwood. That's literally impression Dakota, Oklahoma. But I think the TV is different now because social media has literally changed the game. Like the television doesn't need these people, just like MTV doesn't like musicians don't

need MTV anymore, or that these people don't need the TV. Yeah, but yeah, like they like these queens are great. They can make their own content, they can like all their pictures their Instagram is basically like their resume at this point, and they're booked on the same shows as the big queen. Like I just saw a Lissa Edwards just doing a show at like Screwball, and she's on it with did she did she did it with Gritta Like it was.

It was just I was like there before for the same crowds, all those people, and you know, the show will sell out because it's a Lissa who I think is probably the biggest queen right now in terms of like beyond obsessed. I mean, of course beyond of course, and but all those people that came to the show, we'll see Brittain and be obsessed, you know what I mean. And and I'm sure her numbers are skyrocking in terms

of followers. I do think that the next rue Paul will come from that show, but but who knows what it will be. I disagree because that show sets it up where like if you're the most successful drag Race, you're the most successful from RuPaul's show. Right, It's not a it's a show where it's like it's someone's competition and RuPaul is I mean the best. We love her, but like it makes it impossible for someone to surpass her.

Everyone's success will be tethered to Rue. That's because we have yet to see what's going to happen with these spinoff shows. Is going to have her spinoff show, like the House of Edwards, Trixie and COTTI are gonna have a spinoff show. Let's see how those play out. You could have someone break out maybe, I mean remember like, but I think it's just as possible. This is what Mike is saying, is that someone unassociated with the show, what might like blow the funk up in a way

that's completely irrespective of that. Yeah, so he literally, I mean who knows? Who knows? Okay, let's move on to not I don't think so, Honey, we have a twist. We have a twist because Mike Hell then I'll say this again, has a show running up the UCB currently called Yes Honey, Storytelling Storytelling Show at u c B Chelsea, and it will be two times a month. You can check u c b um Theater dot com or whatever and get on the schedule and see if you got I'm going to do a quick plug all the queens

we were just talking about on my show. We're doing it's going to be a direct show October um, say, before Kelly Clarkton's album comes out exactly, and we timed that out perfectly. But it's I'm doing my storytelling show and then it's becoming a dreg show and likes and again that show is directed by Shannon O'Neill. And I'm gonna put pressure on r now because I'm gonna say it, Honor,

have we asked her to be on this show? Okay, well we'll reach out again because I really wanted to come on this show the best, the best and also the busiest, but she can clear endlessly interesting. Okay. We're not doing I don't think some money. We're doing a

Yes Honey. So this is where we take one minute to go positive, okay and something that we love and culture and we've never done this and we've been read by one Josh Sharp and the last I don't think so Honey live and he said I don't think so Honey, I don't think so Honey. Well, Josh, tonight, we agree, Yes Honey is going to be a one minute on the clock and we're gonna go positive about something that we love in cold because I love because you are

good ends famously and we're gonna be good ends. We're gonna be good end. Do you want to start doing something? I have something? Okay, bitch, um okay, I have my notes here too. I wrote a bunch of things. There you go. I'm really excited. I'm smiling. Okay, you want me to get in front? Here we go. This is Matt Rodgers, is ya? Honey? One minute? Time starts now? Yes, honey, Demi Votto, you look amazing in a new video. Sorry, I'm not sorry. Hi voice cracked. But you know what

Demi Lavado doesn't. Demi. I love your high ponytail. I love your makeup, your beat to the gods. In every video you look amazing. Also, Demi, I loved it in every music video you're in. There's a pool chlorine, bitch, keep a chlorinated Demi. I love your Miami aesthetic. I always say your name written in neon lights. In fact, that's the name of one of your songs. Demi. Not only do you back worthwhile charities and causes like the

Jet Foundation, but you show up for them. Honey. Yes, honey, you put your money where your mouth is, not like your trash expects. Friend Selena Gomez takes money from people's suffering. Who she makes money from suicide. I don't like her, that is honey, Demi Lavado. That's not wrong. Thank you for putting a talented and real face on mental illness and struggles facing many people, especially young people. And I love you. You have an amazing voice in your idolis

Kelly clockson like me, and that's one minute. I love's good. She's talented, she's a good one. She's gonna blow her fucking voice out pretty stop. It's okay. There's nothing better than a diva that blows it out before Okay, all right, this is it, this is it, um, this is mine, this is yours. Oh my god, I did not prepare for this. Man. That's on you. All right, here we go. I have one and Bowen yangs. Yes, honey starts now, Yes, honey. Tabasco flavored cheese my number one favorite cracker. Do not

give me rich sandwiches. Do not give me ritch bits, that's what they're called. Do not even give me white chatter cheese. That's honey. I want the tangy, spicy taste. That is just right. It's a it's a low mild on the Scoville scale, which is the scale for spiciness, for cap sison, which is the spice chemical. That's you know, when you have you chase something spicy that's kept sce.

And and I love me some Tabasca flavored cheese. It's they are my favorite cracker whenever you are, if you're drunk, if you're sober, if you're a little bit of stone. You love yourself some Tabasca flavored cheese, it's bitch. I love it when I'm watching TV. I love it. When I'm talking on the phone with my friends. I love it when I am just playing my video games on my six dollar laptop. Bitch, I love it. And look, if you want to buy some Tabasco flavored cheese, it's run.

Don't walk five seconds, get the to a funnery, to the Tabasco flavored cheese. It brush me star bits one minute. Yes, yes, God is love. I want to try that. I want delicious, delicious, you must you love it. I think a bit of marijuana with a little bit the brid of filter of crackers, bitch, everyone love They're the brit of filter crackers, the britt of filter of crack. Alright, so now it's Mike Mike Kelton and he's gonna do yes honey, and this is you say I want to I want to let you

everyone know listening. I haven't decided what this is going to be until literally he says so, and this is this is a for real thing. I literally haven't decided. Some kid, Um, yes, yes, yeah, I had to take a break to work on the show, but I'm coming. She's on some Kid with the amazing former best of our show, mon Monique. Here we go. Now this is Mike Helton's yes honey, and this time starts now yes, I do. You want to know who's the best? Maggie Rogers is the best. And if you don't know who

she is, now you know. Maggie Rodgers is one of the best musicians I've ever heard in my entire life. Started with a YouTube video of her doing a master class at NYU with Farrell or with Farrell and he's like, oh my, got to hear this song about Alaska, and she's like, I'm living for it. She's very, very spiritual. And here's the thing. I saw her two weeks ago or a month ago in Brooklyn and she started out

the concert by saying, I just wanted to know. This is a safe space for everyone, and we welcome everyone. If you're a refugee, if you're gay, if you're whatever, I don't give a fucking I love you and I love that. Also, she's very, very spiritual, and I feel like I've known her in the past life, which is

a very fur real thing, and she talks about that stuff. Also, she has a new album coming out, because there's four songs that she already has, like Alaska and a couple other ones are very good energy and you should have sex to one of those songs. But here's the thing. Next albums Dancy and even gay. Maggie Rodgers. Yes, honey, Oh my gosh, Matthew Rogers. I've never heard of her, really, and I say something her and I say something, this is really beautiful because you know what just happened. What

my dog named Maggie just passed away. Mackie Rodgers. That was my wait her name was Rogers. She was ten years old, gold. She was the sweetest dog that lived in the world. And I've never heard of this person, Maggie Rodgers, until you said that. And I do believe that this part of part of Maggie Rodgers the Dog's Cosmic Moment because I was in my head I was gonna do Maggie Rodgers or Sells, Sir, and I decided last minute to do Maggie Rodgers. And you know what

that is, Mike, That's gone. That's God, That's God. You know what that's gone, That's gone. Everything it is God, God. Everything comes from God. God, amazing. God is an amazing think. God is an amazing figure. And it is only God.

I will father. Here you go spiritual, Well, this has been a spiritual episode of Mike Kelton on I Don't Think so well on Law riskAs and the second time do you want to hear that thing you were going to say before at the beginning of the podcast you were like, I'm gonna spill some tea on what Mike Calton said to me. Oh, yes, okay, you gotta share. So I was hosting a show at you CB with Brookshields, which went great. Did you stay and watch it? Didn't have to go home? Tie? Tie t tired? Um? So

it went great. But I was walking backstage and I said, how was yes, honey, because it had up yeah, yeah, And he said, you know, I went through some strife when I was naming the show because I thought it was too similar to I don't think so, yes, honey, anyway, thank god. And he didn't even care. He thought, he thought, will it he thought, will it affect them? And they thought, you know what, I don't give a funk. I'm Mike Calton.

I dwarf these hopes. He dwarfs these hopes, stunts on them by naming his show slightly adjacent to other shows, but he surpasses them. That's Mike Calton for you. Wow, I love you a lot, and I'm really happy that you came and did this. Thank you. This is really fun. Maybe we do again, Maybe we do again on the next big project. In fact, you know, it will be fun if you came with one of the queens next time, because you know I've been I've been wanting to ask

Britta to come on. Oh she'd be great. Oh my god, that would be fun. Honestly, would be a joy. You know Christie Chello, I love she was so obsessed with her and we did a show with her that. Christie was also one that she had Britta on her podcast and they got along like famous old queens. Well, Bretta is such a star and also her voice. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, well we'll come back with Bretta. Honestly, I

love that and this is an amazing person. And I'm also joined right here with with I an amazing person. And he is my sister. This is my rock. And we have been we have been crying, many tears. We have been crying. But that's okay. We've been. We've been, we've been signing, we've been live Okay, we've been crying, we've been di we've been sing, We've been okay. Cut it off. When he thinks because he went to musical theater school, he's better than us, kill him. Bow No,

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