"Sex, The City, and 'Sex And The City'" (w/ Sam Taggart)

a question. Actually, you know what I was gonna say, who are you? Out of the Bad Mom? I think I wish I was Catherine Han, but I think I'm probably Amila. No, that's that's even too in this. No, I'm Ela and black. I think you're my mom's absolutely, she's like the type a who like reach just a breaking point, but she's like sexy too. Yeah. I think I'm Catherine Han because I'm a mess yeah with no hope. But I hear Katherine Hans steals the This is like

a vehicle for her. Wow. Yeah, I've been waiting for the Catherine Vehicle because we we we can talk about bad moms for the next two hours, but the fact of the matter is we have a guest, and we have He's a hurricane of a guest. Hurricane of a guest. Let's go through his credits. Oh, I love the credits. You know. He's the co creator of Lake Homo ha is the co creator of Live on broad Gay. He just had his solo show, Sam's Big Day. Oh, excellent show.

I went to go see. It was wonderful. He's the co host, one of the co hosts of Future Forms Yes previously Cube Yes, wonderful institution in Brooklyn. Absolutely, and he ascendance is something we love to watch. The stars rising bitch and on three his name be one to three taggery am good. I love it. I'm truly incredible, Sam. I mean, what an honor it is to have you.

Our hats are falling, so those who those of you listening at home, and Sam just found this out because we put it right on his head and we are rocking out these hats. Culture hats were on a culture expedition. We feel very official in them. When we're here to scour culture. It's lost cultures. Do Sam is here to help us today? And I mean there's so much happening

in the culture. Absolutely, Um, Sam. Before we dive into culture of the current day, UM, contemporary culture, contemporaneous culture, we want to ask you, as modern Absolutely, we want to ask you, like we ask all of our guests, what is culture that shaped you? That's such a good question. What made Sam Sam? That's so smart that particular question I love, Like, that's actually really smart. The lady you said that I have a way with where it. Yeah, it's really smart way. Uh. I I would say I

was formed pretty heavily by Midwestern suburban culture. A lot of cheeseburgers in my in my life, a lot of video games in in half finished basements, if you will, I have a question what video games were you into? Specifically? You know, I uh couldn't get enough of like your classics, your Mortal Kombats as I grew up, it was Halo, you know, So you were liked Were you a PlayStation kid or I was a PlayStation kid? See I was. That's kind of like I was an N sixty four kid.

And I think that does shape the way you are life about your life, Yeah, I'd say PlayStation people are a little more critical. I'd say PlayStation people become republicans. I'm a PlayStation person, and I am a republican critical republican. Um Listen, Like, I used to play a mess straight up area all the do dot day, and then I feel like I used to like cartoons video games like Marryo Your Donkey Kong loved it, and then once video games started to take themselves too seriously, I was like,

no fun. You see, that's when I finally got on board. Just a little cartoon, No thank you, wake me up when there's a whole world to explode. Yeah. Yeah, you could argue PlayStation much more sophisticated than before in terms of themes. Well, that's an interesting point that Matt just brought up with video games, because I mean kids nowadays are growing up with you know, their over watches, and they're just all these mature games, and it's it's too

ahead of their time, you got it. We we grew up in a time when video games matched our growth, Like, we grew up around really cartoony kid from the games, and now everything's just rated M for mature. It's a mess. So I think it's a mess rate and M for goddamn mess and keep us guys. What is Halo? Oh my god? I simply love it. So I took a break for a while to pursue comedy, but I've I've recently come back to it because you've given up comedy. You can only do one. You can boy or a

comedy boy. You can't be both boys. God no, uh, you know it's I'm always the worst. I play online and I'm always the worst. This is as like as of last week, I started replaying video games, and uh I I get last place, but I have the most fun. I feel. Yeah, I know that. You know what, That's a good mental exercises playing online when you know you're going to be beat by like some fourteen year old kid um but still enjoying it. Because I would go into that situation saying like I hate this, I don't

like losing. You know. Well, it's it's what's your kind of idea of fun? Is it burned the world or is it win the game? I think that's like also a life question. My idea of fun is being immersed baby, like being immersed in the world. Honey, that's my idea of fun. It's like when you play Grand Theft Auto, you that person that's like sucking the hookers and killing everyone with your car or are you trying to actually like, I'm playing whatever I played for the story until like

I get bored, like yeah, and which is happens? I have like an hour limit, you know on story. Yeah, you know, a big long TV show worth and then I start doing the hooker stuff. Yeah. And then when in doubt hooker, you pick up the hooker and you listen to them. Fuck. That was like when Grand Theft Auto first came out. It was like my cousin was always like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do. We're going to find a hooker and we're going to watch the car go up and down and listen to them. Fuck.

It was like, and with that same cousin, I watched gay porn. You have to okay, go ahead, wait, yeah, no, he has to expound upon. Well, I have a streak straight as anyone. Wild remain nameless. But when we were young, I remember like it was my first like experience with pornography, and we definitely watched some straight stuff for a little while, and then he was like, you want to see something really fucked up and gross, and he bought brought out

the gay porn. It was the first time I saw with my eyes a dick in an ass and I was like, what they do that? And he was like, yeah, of course they do, That's how they have sex. And I was like, oh my god. And then I guess I had like a boner because he goes, if you have a boner right now, it means that you're gay, and I was like, I don't have a bonner. I

assure you, I don't. I don't even think I knew what an direction was, but I vividly remember that being very confused as to like why I wanted to keep watching gay porn and being shocked when I saw like what gay sex really was. I think it's very telling that he like was eager to introduce it to you. But it's he's playing the game to burn the world, not win the game with with porn. Sometimes that's how people live their lives, is what I'm saying. What is

he still straight? But yes he has a lovely girlfriend. Yeah, but like, honestly, no, I really don't think so. I've never I'm pretty positive I think it was just the thing of like we're looking at stuff on the internet because the internet's knew, baby, it's not two thousand one. That was like part of being a young boy, you know, pulling up gay porn and going like this sucks, especially when you grew up where I grew up, like a long island, when you hate everything. Yeah, that's not I

feel like it's like in the same world. It's the same instinct as like showing each other. Do you guys do do you guys have a friend? You would show each other your dicks too? Well, my gay friends, I mean, but are they getting I mean, like, did you grow up like growing up you like he gay? Are these friends gay? Now? Yeah? Cool, that's cool. I showed my dick to my two friends at lunch in second grade. Wow.

Nice because they were like showing to us. It was it's you're right, it's not a gay thing at all. It's like a little boy thing. It's like we have dicks. Yeah, it's it's just a boy thing. Sure, you're just excited about having a dick and what it could be. Yeah. But even like as like a like a nine year old I want to say, showing like like me and his kid going into the basement while our parents talked upstairs and like showing each other our decks and just

like rubbing them against one another. I was like, seriously nine years old. Um, but I was like I obviously didn't have the hormones to be like, oh this is high, I like this, But I was like, this is fun. It feels good, it feels good. Um. I also, well, I remember I had a really close friend when I was in middle school, and I was really positive that we were going to hook up, but we and we were best friends. We had have like sleep over the same room, and I was like, what is happening? But

then we were just best friends. I think that. I think that, like there are some like truly truly good straight male souls out there who truly just want to be friends, good people and don't see us his bodies. I mean, okay, that is a boy sleepover thing. Though even in like the sixth grade, we would all take off our clothes and run out in the yard naked. Yeah,

boy sleepovers were so sexy. Sure there was a lot going on, because nothing's hotter than then when you're a twelve year old boy around a bunch of year old boys. I remember I went to Frost Valley on a field trip and the kids sat on my face. You can't throw out names like Frost Valley and Frost has potential to be a new gay mecca literally, Okay, so what it was it should be? I need to go to Fireline for the first time, the gay part of the way. I've only been to the straight part of Filine on,

which I know is like heinous. Yeah, I mean to kill myself after hearing that. Let me yes, but we should have first make sure everyone at home knows that Bowen and Sam are fire Island kind of sores celebrities, even of the I would say. I would say my kimono was a hit and a Kimona like you didn't even see any of the I was honestly probably too mad that I was missing out. I was like, Sam's going in in August and I'm gonna go in for day trip. Coming. You should come with me. I will

definitely do a day definitely fun. It's heaven. I want to go. I mean I want to go, not even sexually. It's it's it's like it's heaven. It's heaven on earth. It's just you. You feel so safe and so it's it's beautiful. Also, I would love to go to Peatown. Have you been to Petown? See? David Mazzoni says, it's like Disney World. We literally the three of us went to disney World and we're walking down and Street, USA and damn, Zny goes, this is just like Pizzo. I

was like, go fuck yourself. Oh my god, nothing to compare to Disney World. Wait, is Disney World really gay? Is this well of courses? It's so gay? Gay Days? We should go for Gay Days. I would love There's nothing, literally nothing. If I achieved this, I'll feel like I could die. Is if every gay person I know went to Gay Days? It was so fun. So Sam's like less excited. I don't know. Make the event, put it on Facebook and we'll see what's happening. Can I tell

you guys what Frost Valley was? Okay, So Frost Valley was like when you got to sixth grade. This was like the field trip that that my middle school went on. It was um three days of sleepaway field trip um at this like excursion camp at Upstate in New York. Basically it was like a project adventure course that was huge. It was basically every day you went out into the to the like cold wilderness and like did activities and

did team building stuff. And honestly, it was it got there because of course sixth grade, which is just when you've been like, oh wait, we are sexual. It's like you have a lot of energy. It's like when it's when you jack off, it's not a mistake anymore. It was still a mistake, right, So did you did you? Did things get steaming with you and someone else? A well?

I actually was like courting a female at the time who was in like one of the other bunks, and I was like, oh man, she's dating my friend Joey. And that girl ends up, she ends up she's lesbian. Now. I think if every story doesn't end with and turns out she's lesbian. Now, I really don't care about what you said. And Joey m a sexual just for symmetry,

he's engaged to a woman. But I will say, like, yeah, it got crazy, Like there comes a point when boys that age around each other and it reaches a fever pitch where they have to like sexually show something. I remember the kid fucking sat on my face. It was like, what was he wearing his boxers, and I remember going like dizzy. I was like, what's happening to me? Okay,

but you enjoyed it, because I don't enjoy primarily. I think, yes I did, but like at the time, I was like, no, this kid is definitely bullying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's mean. It was like I was in bed and he was like I heard like giggling around me, and then some kid was sitting on my face. She were asleep, and he just like and I think he was like, suck mind dick, suck mind dick, and everyone was laughing, and I was like, oh God. And then honestly it was fine,

like fifteen minutes later and they all moved on. But like that's the way the boys that age act like it is like a thing, like it is really funny for him to for him to chance stuck my deck

stuck my dick at that age. But I wish I hope that in the future people in that generation, kids in that generation kids, and that the future generations will laugh at that for the right reasons and and laugh at that because it's like gay sex is funny but not mockable, or they'll just suck each other's dicks because they want to and they're powered, and they're gay and being gay is normal. They're just like comfortable with their own bodies and absolutely, yes, I love I think that's

so powerful. I think that what we're doing is a service. I think all the little eleven year old gays listening to this, who who really look up to Bowen? Shout out to Chat, shout out to Trevor, shout out to Unique. Unique. I love Unique. He's a fashion icon, complete icon. He's literally actually this is a fact. His his body is more scarfed than human love. It's fused. This person isn't real,

to be clear, I hope there is. I'm sure there is some like big brother thing for gays, and I would do that, big a little guy, big a little guy. I would love to mentor a little gay boy, same, I would. I would enjoy that. Would you want to do that? Sam? I mean for sure? But I feel like it's hard because you don't know, like like when you're like thirteen, you're like, am I gay? Or just

like super horny and weird? Like that's yeah, That's why I'm doubting that those little boys, now the little queer boys, were voting and like, but maybe this is a phase. Maybe people just aren't are Honestly, this is sometimes the way I feel a bad it. People don't want to don't really care about like putting a label on their sexualitymore,

and they're just being the way they are. And maybe if we there were no societal expectations and there were no gender limitations and there were no like bullshit, people would just be voguing because Vogue is great, that was smart, that was beautiful. I'm really smart and beautiful. You should have said that. At the d nd they turned two people away from speaking, Me and Nina Turner, Nina Babe.

Who was Nina Turner? That is a problematic question. You need to get Turner as the senator who was like um advocating for burning and she was slated to speak at the d n C to kind of like tell everyone what the truth was and like business, and then basically, you know, she was not allowed to speak. She was directed away. Well that's that's that sucks that she was silenced despite you know, even though she as a Burnie supporter,

as a Hilary supporter, I looked down on her. But I want to say the woman who slammed the gavel in the first night. She's the mayor of Baltimore, and she made that she like had that giftable moment where she made a face before she's in the gavel. I was on her Instagram, guess who guess what She's obsessed with drag Race and why I wish Pokemon goo but she loves She's like, she took a picture and she post and she's like, look, She's like, I've been watching

drag Race too much. Look at me. I'm giving you Alyssa Edwards. And I was like, this said the words giving you Edwards and she tagged Alyssa Edwards and she was like, the mayor of Baltimore. Can you imagine the female black mayor of Baltimore loves drag Race. I'm like, they're dream and everyone would if society didn't tell straight man. Not sure everyone would love because it's the best, it's the best. Sam still hasn't gotten on it. I just haven't.

I didn't come here to be publicly shamed. Well that's literally what we do here, Okay, video games and burgers. I mean that sounds pretty right to me. I love it. I love it. What state was your upbringing. It was all around the Midwest and a little in the South. I moved every two to three years. Really, really, did you ever tell me why? Uh? My dad just got

a lot of different jobs. He kept moving jobs and would be like, this is the last time we're going to move, and then two years later would be like, we're moving. I had this thought, Um, I was with my family this second, and then we were just like looking at our old houses on Google Maps and they're doing street view and it was like a weird moment. But then I realized that I was like, oh, yeah, us moving a lot, Like was it forced us to like really adjust to two different social situations. And I

think I think it's valuable. I think it helped. Do you think it helped you? I think it helped, but almost in like a psycho way, like I feel very almost like a little impersonal, like I just say what needs to be said to like just like have people like me enough, don't worry about that at all here.

But I think that that's really interesting. Like actually, I had this conversation today because my eight no, my ten year old cousin UH has to move to another house and he's really upset and I moved when I was nine, and I actually think it was a good thing for me. I think, I don't know. I mean, I can't speak to moving like fucking eight or nine times like that

sounds like that was really hard. But moving one time I actually think was good because it did put you in a situation where like, okay, you know, you gotta like figure it out again, like and that's good for a kid, I think ye. For me, it was so it was so easy to manipulate the situation, like by like the fifth move, you're like, okay, just wear a cool shirt, like talk to this kid who's like an asshole, who you're not gonna like in a year, but he'll like make it so you don't get bullied. Just kind

of go. You just figured out how to play the game, right, Yeah. Yeah. And what you didn't mention is that you had a different name at every school. Sure, well we don't know about Sam is that his name is really Oscar and he's Yeah, a lot of people don't know that about me,

that Scott, it's me Oscar Herrera. The thing is he had a change his name because he couldn't say that, he couldn't say he couldn't like Oscar her It was the first move and then he learned his lasting was like, oh I should I should be able to pronounce my own name. That's true, Yeah, um, that's I Honestly, I hadn't really thought through the video game thing and how about how it shaped me? And I'm not happy that I did. Well. Listen, you know what video games shaped

me were a final fantasy games. I was gonna ask about that one too. That one's very narrative, right, It's it's completely narrative, which is it's like a forty hour long movie. It's the best, so I you know, and now they're a little they have an aged well, so if you go back and play them now, you're not gonna like them, I think, which part why hasn't because

it's just the storytelling conventions are very melodramatic. But it might be fun as long as you know it's a product of the times, and you like play them again and you're like, oh, this is very nineties, like this this emotion melodramas the best though melodramas in but back, but even if you play it now, it's like it's it's crazy paste. It's like, oh, funk. Like someone's mom died within the first like five hours, which is like short. It's like it's very quick. So anyway, um, final Fantasy

shaped me. That's that's just my two cents. People's mom die in that thing. Um like like like characters die and like love interest die. It's it's it's it's dramatic. They based on what PlayStation they're playing with dark themes Republicans critical absolutely dark dark dark dark moment. Yeah. Absolutely, I'd rather just like hop on a fucking boh hop on a box and get growing real big and being a big Mario for like fifteen seconds and be able to kill lots of things and they becomes small again.

That makes sense to me. That checks out. Yeah, I mean there's a time in a place, but you gotta grow up sometime. Absolutely, I'm happy that. Actually, you know what, I did play a lot of first person shooters when I was little. I'm not gonna lie now, I'm really kind of grossed out by them, but I did. I was all about that Golden I Ship. I loved that game. I knew, but I I still remember some like facts about automatic weapons I should know, like because that game

like taught me about it. It was really our babysitter are like our nanny, let us play it. So anyway, UM say, I feel like music is a big part of your Oh yes, okay, well there's uh so uh as everyone does. I had a cool cousins that would come to town and be very judgmental of the fact that I enjoyed maybe um Backstreet Boys. Uh. And so these cool cousins they you know, at a very young age, for like, but have you heard not his maush? And so then I was like, I'm gonna out cool these

cool cousins. So I made it my passion to learn it's like cool music like so that the next time they would come, I would be actually had every eleven year old oh man, that was such a thing too, Like when were that age and like you were asked what your favorite music act was and you really wanted to respond with like Backstreet Boys or like Christina Aguilera, and then someone looked over when you like what did

you say? And you're just crossing out frantically right, Like I meant Limp Biscuit, like because it Limp Biscuit I remember, was like the coolest thing. Yeah, I guess. So I feel like my Yeah, I'm still you know, constantly torn between your pop hits, your coolness. But even for you, you have a very you have very discriminating taste when it comes to popet either love it or hate it. Talk about talk about this because because you're talking to the right and this is this is perfect. Sure, well

we know Sam's would number one right now? Is Ariana so good? I actually listened to her. I listened to the song Into You probably five or six times. It's you were the first you posted on my wall and You're like, I'm calling it out a song in the summer, And at first I was like, I'm not sure, and now I think you're correct. Oh yeah, I mean, but the first time I heard it, I was like, see, this is a song that I can just picture really everyone I know like loving getting their life through it,

really enjoying. It's so much that gives me. Two thousand three era Christina Aguilera vibes yes and I love my hair part of this Before Mickable, I just like, come on, its like you are crazy your teas like, you better come to me before I come to you, because if I come to you, you're gonna your Dick's gonna be real, like I don't know, kind of like it, kind of like turns it turned the sad at the end there turned to what absolutely Ariana, Ariana I love, but like hey,

I it's it's more based on the person and the personality than the actually what do you hateado? Who even is she? She's just like she's no one. She should be a cashier at some shoe store. You are literally you gotta got guys. That's been really fun with him, honestly, Can I make it feel so bad for her? Make a case for her? Don't feel bad for her. She's empowered and confident and has a fucking amazing voice and looks great, and she's been through so much and she

speaks to those issues. She's not gonna sound good in like two years though we to talk about starting a year ago. She's just had to do so many image changes and nothing ever sticks. That's I like her. So it's Matt and I obviously like Damian Levada, but I can acknowledge that she's just nothing's stuck yet for her, you know, And that's her issue, that's her. I think that I think that things have to I think cool

for the Summer is the Ship. Yeah, but it's like you're like, who's Like I feel like everyone's just like, oh that song that I don't know who it sings. Its saying is you want to know exactly the identity of what you're hearing and who the person is is. Second you hear this one of the voice, I get that. No, I really get yeah. Yeah, Like I mean sort of kind of like push her off a bridge. But like Katie Perry, the second you hear your voice, you're like,

it's Katie, that's Katy Prayer. This is a Katy Perry song, right. I feel like Demi just doesn't have that sense of identity yet. People would argue that Demi is is this generation is Kelly Clarkson, and you can just listen to it and you'd just be like, who know that they're not distinct, But you know, Kelly, this is Kelly's She's

She's the treadmill queen. You've said that. It just means like she always puts in a song that's gonna make thirty five to four year old women that are just like a little overweight and have two kids be like, you know what, I'm getting back on the treadmill. I'm gonna do it, Beth, I'm gonna do it. I'm getting back on the mill because guess what I have and I am invincible and I'm gonna be stronger. Okay, I'll show you what's behind these at beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I

am miss independent. That's me, she's singing to me. I feel there you go, see that's Kelly, So you can nail that down with Kelly. With Demi, like besides cool for the summer, I feel like she's the bisexual queen of the fucking Milly. Every fucking pop star is bisexual. Truly, when I hear Demi Levado, I think of like I truly just her most iconic thing is her Sketchers ads, right, No, I have not seen I just I she is permanently like on a bus stop, like with her shoe out

with like stupid purple pink lines behind her. I hate this like a skyskar See if she had like start her guns with that era that was when she wasn't specific skyscraper. I mean you know what her album, Demi where she had really don't care she had was that called heart attack A big bag. That's her. Did your bone jump on the harmony. It was beautiful beauty. I mean like, look, she's just been all over the map and I feel like that's she's not at that level yet.

She needs to establish first and then branch out, you know, agree to disagree, quiz me on someone else. Selena Gomez hater, thank you horrible. Now we can started making Sames joke on the ride. What what is it? So for those of you don't know at home, I am a torgoes torgos, I have a tour guide. I'm a tour guide host. And it's a bust that goes to New York City

and like we get to um the Chrysler building. In the Chrysler Building was was built at four floors per week, and you know where in Ward Trade Center was built on only one floor per week. And people are like, oh, I wonder why we build things so much slower now. I mean, we have great technology, we have high speed internet. We can make Selena Gome as a star. It has been going. It has been going like Okay, that's fun. I mean it's so specific. It's good because it's you.

It's very brand for you, which is your audience is like tourists right. My audience is like fifty five year old man on a business trip from Texas who looked at me and I was like, yeah, half of them are like, who's leaning them as in? The other half are like, I think she's super talented. Yeah, I mean she's look a nice girl. Yeah, I have no discerning taste. She's just look a nice kid. That's lettis out. She's just like really good kid, got good kid. We've seen

Matt's range on this episode. Yeah, I think he's sending this to some agents for sure. I have William Morris listening. I have girlsh listening. Shout out to c a A um, yeah everyone listening, Um, I'll take I'll take calls. Listening. Absolutely so listening. I'm trying to think of I'm trying to think of other pop stars. Oh you love it. You just started getting on board with Carly Ray. Yeah,

so she is an example of queen you know. Her talent just really won over me because it's like she is also like she would be like she would be Demi Lovato's manager at the shoe store, like Demi, did you clock in? Demi is like, no, I forgot Demi. This is the third time you haven't clocked in. Payroll has done by a computer, not bandy. I can't keep catching these things. It won't happen again, better or not. I'm going back to my office too. Guys. Let's a

cigarette staff shoes store. I think Carly Ray Jeffson is the manager of the shoe Star who's like a little checked out. Yeah, she works like three days a week. I think Kelly Clarkson might be the owner. Kelly Clickson is the owner that's rarely there. Yeah, she's like, oh my god, this is a mos star. Yeah, and she comes in with her kids and they're running all around. And Ariana Grande is like the piste off girl who works at the front desk that's like, oh my god,

who's about to make it big? Who's about to like yeah, who's about to succeed in like her chosen career in this For her, it's just like a means to an end. Yeah. Gwen Stefani is like the wealthy rich, the wealthy rich, like customer who comes in and she's like, I don't know, my husband's at work. I had another to do, I thought, popping into the shoe store. Lady Gaga is a box of shoes. Yeah. Yeah, Katy Perry is the woman who keeps coming in with like looking for like the restaurant

next door. Where is it? I'm sorry, I just keep poking up. I'll find She comes back in ten minutes later. I'm sorry, I'm lost. Where is it? You know? Who? Like was about to make it big? Like everyone's like banking on her to make it big, Betty Who? And then I have no idea that somebody she's the one who's not in the store. She's on the store. Who

got who? Who's Who's she got? Rejected? She? I think she was going to make it big, and she had that big hit song and then she came out with an album and then it just takes whatever making it biggest nothing life so farce. Listen, listen to Betty Who's album, and you like Betty Who, and then you'll get what we're talking about. Who cares that she's not like commercially successful. It's sucking Trump's America. Wow, I love it. I'm so

smart and beautiful. It's incredible. Yeah, it's gotten very political. It's really cool. I'm a political voice. I'm a viral political voice. Yes, so that's that's the deal. Guys, check out at Donald's gay Trump Donald J. Trump. There's no J in it is there in the handle, there's a because honestly, Donald Gay Trump was already taken, so I had to be Donald J. G. Trump, which I actually like a little better. It's fine, it's fine. I hate.

I love that he's so obviously to everyone in America Donald Trump, but his handle is Donald J. Trump and he's running a resident Donald day Trump, But you're Donald Trump. Did can I say something like kind of crazy? My brother in law before he dried, He's dropped me after the airpart this morning. Um, and then no, no, no, this is good. He was just like, and he works in media, and he was like, I'm so scared you're about to say like and then he said I love Trump.

No no, no, no, no no. He is like very sort of like new savvy, media savvy. And he was telling me so obviously Jill Stein, so he um, he was telling me how there's this theory out with a lot of like sort of media like insiders that Donald Trump has been canceling all these like outreach events but he's still been doing his rallies and all of his rallies and the last week post d d NC, he's been like, the elections rigged, the elections rigged, he's been saying.

He keeps saying it it's rigged. And then he attacks the fire marshals at each of the stops he's at for each town and he's like, because the fire marshals cut off the number of attendees for each rally because of obviously obvious safety reasons, and Donald Trump is going crazy, and he's like, the fire shoals are in cahoots with the local Democrats. They're trying to they're trying to limit the people who can see me. Bla blah blah, Bobby.

Elections ragged. Look, look all the Democrats are working against me. And so yeah, they are. That's that's what the election is. The whole establishments working against him. And so he's saying that. So so the theory out there is that he's going to quit, that he's going to bail on the entire fucking elect And he's been like saying how the debates are ragged or whatever. He's like, they're on the scene, manus NFL games, no one's gonna watch. It's rigged. It's rigged.

It's so the theory out there is he's gonna fucking drop out of the fucking race before like even the first debate. What will happen then, our producer Joe just cracked up. It's I don't know, because it's never fucking happened before. I mean, there's got to be a system in place. What do we go, Like, I mean, then then it's great, Then it's a I mean then it's then it's a fucking sligh But like, I don't, isn't

that crazy? It is crazy? Honestly, the more and more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me, because I just I don't know where it's going now, Like I can't. I feel like it's been so weird that it can't possibly like good, Like it can't end in a normal way, not at all, like and and so, and this is and him quitting would also help him, say, face from losing from being because he doesn't like to lose. I thought about that. He's not he'd rather quit than lose.

I think he would have seen not nailing it in the Republican primaries as being like not a loss. But if he directly loses to Hillary Clinton, there's no buts about that's a loss, like and he that's his biggest insult is loser. Yes, and then my and then I asked me brother, and I was like, what is he gonna do? Like, That's what I'm worried about. And he's like, he's probably gonna go with Roger Ales and start like

a news network like Trump TV or something. And he's like the fucking face of it, which is, of course that's gonna something. Would so much rather that because then at least we can have like a network that we all know is like truly garbage, besides having like Fox. And do you not like QPC? Do you not like? I don't like? You know that you don't like? You don't like you know like I don't Oh no, no no,

he's trying to get a character you look at. I really wanted to do this for you guys, because I know that you guys like that edgy thing, like you guys rep um, you know, and half Away the edgy face, so edgy. Oh my god. I love Anne Hathaway, so edgy. She's got the edge. You know, she cut her hair short, sup edgy, edgy, super edgy. You know when everyone actress cuts her hair short. I just sit back and I say,

there's the edge. There's edge. She's showing the edge. One tier, A single tier rolls down the center of my face, like Demi Moore and ghost or should I say sorry to me more? I can't get to the bottom of what the right way to pronounce her name. It's to me. I think it's to me. And that's different from Demi Lovado of course, the two most famous Demis. Wow, Demi Wow, You're right. I think we need Demi Levado and Demi Moore in a movie together called Demi, Demi and Demi.

I love it. Let's let's do it. I'll pitch it to um Grosho's listening maybe like I'm trying to think of someone like it would be like Dus you know, and it's like they both play gods. Yes, I like it, or duty somewhere days and it's like it's like the two Demis, like out on the Halloween. On the Halloween, I'm the Halloween. What are you guys gonna be? Oh my god, that's a great question. It's coming up well, you know what, you know what, it's around the corner

at the biggest event of the season. I'm coming back from China. So I have a day to get I'm there for two weeks and then I have to get a costume together. I'll buy something in China. I get something in China. Yeah, I'll do that. What are you? What are you gonna be? What are you guys gonna be? I don't know. Every year I just used it as an excuse to dress up like a full woman's great. Um, you don't need an excuse. Well, this one needs an excuse.

Um just William Morris. I'm totally into playing all different kinds of roles like put me off for comedy, drama, male woman? Wait, which woman? Did? Were you? Did you play last year? Last year I was Dolly Parton's busted cousin. Yes, sure, And the year before I was just like an early version of my character from Broadway Aunt's Katrina. Yes, but she was like the sexy secretary. She was like a sexy secretary at the work office party. She's like, I'm

letting luise tonight. That sounds fun, that's great, that's like the sam you did drag last tellween, I did drag last Halloween? Were you Arianna Grande is Ariana? Did you have the pony? I looked so bad. No, you looked so good, snatch. I looked like more like a Mortal combat character than Ariana grand day. I looked like a monster, like but you loved it. It was fun. But I was like, I thought to be a woman, all you

had to do was have long hair. Yeah. No, there's so much more to being a woman than long hair. I had long hair and a dress, and I just looked like, like it turns out I'm like beefy and out. It's no. I think for you, it's the jaw. You have a square jaw, so I think as long as you like contour around the jaw than you then you'll look, then you'll pass. It was disgusting. I looked like a monster, but you were. I mean it was a hit on Instagram. Sure you got a lot of likes, but I think

people were like, that's so bad. Yeah, I can I can fire sam s I find it. I want to know, did you guys ever do when you were younger, like the hot kind of dude costumes? Because I used to do like I'm your husband, that's having an affair at work. I'm Jason Stackhouse. One year, I was like a sixty nerd like high school. You were stacked. You were Jason Stackhouse the year that I was ash Ketchum, which honestly, that's like a porn. That's a good porn. No, like

a true blood Pokemon porn. This is not the best picture, but this is the Instagram. This is I mean, look, it doesn't look bad. Oh my god, you look like Amy Schumer. Yeah no, sorry, god looks so it's so good. You got to look like though, and you nailed it. I looked monstrous. You look good, Joe, take a look. To take a look. Producer Joe nods in approval. Sam. Let's talk about let's talk about you. You know I

would love Sam. How did you guys come up with the idea for to do live on broad Gay Sam's idea? And then Sam came to me and was like, what can you help me do this? And I was like yes, And then we just like we went to Dos Toros one day where all creatives go to really stir it up. You just feel open and creative. I think I have had a meeting there. It's great. I mean you have to. I think we should go back Sam, We'll all three of us should go back to Fly on It and

reflect and see what inspires us. So just so you guys don't know, maybe you don't know if you've been living under a fucking rock, honestly, So Live on broad Gay is Bowen and Sam restaging episodes traditionally of Sex in the City. I don't know if you guys are beholden to that, but it's it's a restaging of episodes of classic gay ass shows so far as justin Sex in the City move on to other things. But it's been a true hit with Sex and the City. We

haven't been in it. I've been in it as Tree and Scott Brandon, Scott Jones's Carrie, Julio is Miranda, Sam plays Charlotte Joe, Joel Kim Booster plays Samantha in a performance that can only be described as slutty. I mean all four the core for those those recastings are I think they we nailed it absolutely. I've never met a bigger slut than Joel Kim Booster, so true. Um, yeah, I feel like it's very good. It's a good show. Sam and are proud of that. Oh yeah, no, it's great.

I mean everyone should. Is there another one on the books? Well, we'll see which yes, we're not on the books, but like, but have you guys at least picked an episode that you like We've had a kickoff meeting. Okay, yeah, we had a kickoff at Jimmy's in Green Point. See there was your there was your mistake. It should have been See if it ain't broke, don't fix it on right, You're right, We just you know, need to send that email. Can you guys say what episode you're thinking of doing

or is that? I feel like all right, and oh the episode itself is a point of Vieweah, we're not sure. Can I tell you all? My favorite episode of the show is just to say that my favorite episode of Section the City is the one that follows the post it after Burger after break up, after Burger breaks up with Carrie to post it I'm sorry, I can't don't hate me and she knocks it off the table. The episode after that, what happens in it? Okay, I actually now I'm trying to blank about what happens in it,

but it's really good. I just remember like watching that last scene and being like, holy sh it, I gotta watch the next one, and then the next one being really good. Also, there's an episode called My Mother Board Myself, which is serious. Miranda's mom passes away, but it's a really good episode and we and it and Carrie gets your computer effects. Yeah, Sam and I watched that episode for the last brogay because we were still like it was in the running and we were like, it's it's

too it's so dramatic. It's very but it's like it would be hard to be like it's funny, right yeah, um, and but no, this is this is a real point of contention. Sam refuses to do any episode with Burger in it. I have a band in Burger episodes. Why you hate burg? I hate? Yeah, I mean he was the full worst. But is it is it you hate Burger that you hate that that actor what's his name? I'm fine with Ron if he's listening. Ron's actually with gersh Um Um, no, shade gersh I it's his character

is that he is nothing like which is hilarious. It's the most boring, Like he just like goes with it and then like freaks out for no reason and then it's just like like him anything they try to give him. He's the Demilovado of love and he is just like she She only liked him because he was like pithy and passively attractive, which is like not enough of a reason. He wrote a motorcycle and she was like obsessed with him, and it was like she was this isn't a Big

or an Aiden. No, no way, this is no the Russian, It's no, it's no Petrovia. I think Aiden was the one. I love Aiden. I'm an eating guy. I'm a big head. Really, that's why it works. You know, works, really don't. I really don't get them together Big, Big, and Carry. I don't understand. You know what you know, you know what happened with Big, and this is you know, this is like unfortunately sort of sexist. This only happens with man. But he got hot as the ship progressed, and then

he was super hot in the movies. I don't agree. I think Big has always been trash. It looks like trash so hot in the show. I feel like in the second movie he looked because he was yeah, and he was barely in it. But the first movie he looked when they're lying in bed together and he has just has his shirt and buttoned and his chest to show. It's like such a good chest to me. It's all about Honestly, I was thinking I loved almost all the guys that Samantha fun. I was like, Yep, that's the

hottest guy ever. That's the hottest guy ever. That's the hottest guy ever. Everyone she fucked. I was like, Yep, she nailed it yet again, even that even that guy. Um, who's that guy? Who's who's in vinyl? Um? Bobby? He's very hot? You are you joking? I would I would literally cut off my foot. Okay, Bobby, if you're listening, we have a challenge. I'll take off my foot for you. Fine, my foot, get out of here. I'm sorry. I don't

know what Bobby. You can give Matt Rogers gangreen of the foot and he'll chop it right off and you get to fuck him. It's that cool foot lifts. Matt Rodger, smart, beautiful, without a foot, without a foot, you can pick which one. Giving so giving um But no, I mean, she just sucked the hottest guys on the show. But I do think that the best looking guy on the show, honestly, the most attractive guy, the most one I was Steve. Steve love these arms in his butt, the great but

personality stupid little boys. Miranda was such a she was the worst. No, you watch it now in Miranda is the only relatable one. Yeah, but no, there were moments on the show where she was truly she did things because she was cruel, like in the movie when she because when she sucked things up for Carrie because Steve showed up at the dinner, and and and Miranda got very upset. And then she turned to Big and she goes, don't ever get married. Like that was how she was feeling.

It's such it was a beautiful plot device. It was wonderful. But she knew that Carrie and Big were headed in that direction. So what you're thinking about yourself to that extent where you're actually going to turn to the committed partner of your best friend and say, don't ever get married? You're that selfish that I'm sorry for an intelligent woman like Miranda to do that. You know, it was a little It was such a good conflict for the movie. Sure,

but that doesn't mean she's a good person. Was garbage. The first movie is excellent. The second movie is trash. I mean, make Sam thinks the opposite. Sam thinks the first movie he loves the second. The second movie is like a piece that needs to be studied. There is so much wrong with it. It is like and I could not believe it. I was here, I was jarred, like it couldn't have been like truly, if they had given all the women's superpowers, it would have made more

sense than this movie. But yet again, Samantha Fox the too hottest guys, she's ever the second, the best, the best man at the wedding in the beginning, sure, I don't really, Oh my god, go Wils look that up on you? And then rickards spurt spurt at the end, so hot, like you got a joke hotter than Smith.

I didn't obozo face. He did, come on, he looks good in the show, but in something happened in that first movie where he looked so stupid, Like the cameras were better and you could see the details and it was like, oh no, this is why you're in TV. Baby. God, Wow, we saw Jill Marini's dick in the first movie. Ji Marini, the Italian guy that like is next to yes and

you see is like cockballs and butt. I love the first movie see because the man that didn't suck that guy and she was really close to and then like it was a nice satisfying like bait and switch of like no, she's she's she's committed to to Smith and she's not gonna suck him. I liked that the movie. Will there be a third movie? I mean, there's got to be right, there's there has to be happens when they're seven year old. Yeah, it'll be great. I mean, s JP, I'm excited for this divorce show on HBO.

It looks interesting. I'm down for s JP. I think she's really good. I get into arguments of people all the time, but whether or not she's talented, and I'm like, oh, fark yourself. And she's been on Broadway, she's been on TV, she's been in film. She nails it every time. She's also like someone you watch on television and you're not You're not once thinking like oh she's acting, Like even if people say like she well she does her started

to Parker thing. Yeah, but it's also super grounded and like really interesting and fun to watch, compelling, So like, what's the problem. It's like Lena Dunham, Like you have a problem with Lena Dunham on Girls, Like if you do like then don't watch girls at all. There you go. That's okay. So we're talking about sex in the city. The loose theme of this episode I think we went over was sex the city and sex and the city. So this is fun. Let's talk about sex and the

city for us. Like I'm just going to talk about like, well, you know, I was going to be tempted to talk about like good lays, but maybe that's too much. You guys put drops in your show because it would be like a good like coo coo coo. At first, we don't do drops, but this is I think if we're having a section called good lays, we need that and then a couple of we have to pause and leave space for Joe to put the drop later. Okay, this is alright, a's the drop. Let's see I moved here

in two eight. Um, how soon after that did you get your co How were the lays? And two lay two eight and two I'm sorry, um with men with men um. I was like really just like casting a wide neat but all in the neighborhood, all in the east village where I was living at the time. Some guy down the street who like my this is my first month in New York and I was like just one of those like UCB obsessed, like fucking nerds. And then he was talking about how he liked it was

a UCB guy. It was a Second City guy. He was like, he was like a little bit. I think you would have liked himself. Do you remember his name? No kind of name? Tag him in the I'm anticipated to him again and like, I forget what he looks like he was. He's just like he was kind of a bear. I hooked up with a Second City bear? Wait are we now that to each other over the mind I don't remember his name, Okay, find a pick.

So anyway, so that was my first mind you and he was telling me about how you liked was top by Dell Close on all this bullsh was like in the same classes Tina Fey and Mayby Poehler and all this stuff. I was like, wow, cool, I was like that was That was when I was like, talent can be sexually transmitted. Um. And then there was another guy down the street on Houston And first when I would go to his apartment too, he was he had a living girlfriend, but he was an open relationship. He was

they were both bisexual. I would just go to his place just to like there was nothing penetrative, but it was just for us to be naked in play and it was fun. Well that's literally like what entirely college was. Yeah, and that's what college was for me. And now I'm like a dry I'm in a dry spell again. But that's that's being in sex in the city. Well, I don't know from I was straight my whole first year

of college or like still saying. It was strange. So there was no action there and then like the like in the next three years you do your like stupid like slutty face, slutty gay like hooking up things like obviously a big deal, but like you hook up with people and like find out what that is. But that I think happened. Yeah, that was like college for me.

It was not high school. I was so jealous of all my friends that got to have sex in high school because I was like, man, they're like figuring it out, they're getting a jump start and what sex is, and I know it's probably good, but no way was it good. Well, because like you're at your horneyst in high school and college, I think, and like you want to like at least try that out. But I mean, and then nineteen I lost my virginity. It's nice. Okay, that's nice, looks like nice.

And and then what was like the period leading up to your beautiful You're now You're now beautiful relationship with your boyfriend Henry? What was the period was the period leading up to it? Like, like, were you like seeing a lot of things? Not really at all, So like the last year before I was in a relationship, I really just kind of stopped caring about that kind of thing.

I think right after college I went on a lot of like Tinder dates and a lot to okay Cupid dates, and honestly, by the by the when I really got into that stuff, it really was just to hook up at that point, Like I didn't have grinder. I didn't I had. I never had grinder, I never used grinder metal, just no. But like it was only because I was Like it was only because I was, like I mean, but like I might as well have been because I was just hooking up with everyone I hooked. I like

saw Okaycupid and Tender. Like it was not about and getting to know anybody. But you know what you did in college that I didn't do you hooked up with like people our age at any I was hooking, I was like venturing outside because no one, none of my classmates wanted to hook up with me. Yeah, I conversely like ruined a lot of relationships or whatever. I remember

just being oh, man, that was so annoying. There was like a lot of it was n y U and it was like tish at NYU and like it was all so small and everyone was all up in each other's business. That's when you get disappointed for the first time. Like that was my intro to like being in a gay community or like kind of a subsect of a gay community. Age Sam showing the picture of the person.

It's not him. He's a real bear. So this guy that I was hooking up with was less of a bear like, but like was it was a little bit more just like he was he was he was older than that, he looks young. Just to finish what my thought was, it was just it's just like the first time you get into a community and you're like, oh, ship, it's incestuous. That sucks. Yeah, but now you know, but now you know, and then you just say, hey, life's of forest. It's Trump's America. Who cares suck each other?

Wo Honestly, I have such like a bird in the world mentality now and people fucking It's just like, yeah, suck each other, tum human being. Yeah, go for it, go for it. Dam walk us through. Um. Well, let's see. I have a very similar tale to Matt Rogers as he's like so bored. I uh didn't come out until my second year of college. And but then immediately after coming out, had set with a woman. Wow, because you really wanted to it, because you were like, let me

bring it back. It was like a mistake. It was like weird and I don't know what happened. It was like college drunkenness that was like very confusing, and it was sex sex. It was sex sex, and it was very cool. Did you genuinely enjoy it? Yeah, that's so funny. I'm what they call a gold star game. Never. I think seeing a pussy lives never. I never never interacted with the vagina in that way. Sure, but you have

how many times? Um? One and a half? Okay, Uh yeah, but that's so interesting that right after you came out, it was very weird because I feel like I was like we were all like like whatever, like we're just all making out and it's so funny. But then like you get turned on at some point and you're like, oh, it's not making out anymore, Like it's not funny and silly, like we're going upstairs and we were like it was

very weird. You got swept up in it. And also I actually think this happened to me the same exactly. Maybe I didn't have sex with these girls I was friends with, but the first people that I told I felt the most comfortable with. And then you do start making out with them when you get drunk and like feeling them up and like everything's happening, and then all of a sudden, you're like, wow, this has gone really far.

I remember post saying I was gay to these girls, like I hooked up with them a lot, and they gave me huge hickeys on my neck out it's where a turtleneck to class like it was crazy, and everyone was like, well, that kid's getting laid. I'm like, no, I'm just like gay getting kind of taken advantage of. That's weird, that's hot. But see here's the thing I

would see. I could see myself getting swept up to the point all the way up to putting my dick in their vagina, because at that point I'm like, no, I can't do that. No right, yeah, no, I can't imagine it, But I can't imagine having sex with the woman. Would you? Would you still have sex with a woman's fam Like, I'm not like a percent opposed. Yeah, like if I don't see what situation it would like where that would pop up, but like like I don't I'm

not like like I'm not like that's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just like I get it. Yeah, like that can be fun. That's how my boyfriend is. He's like a four on the Kinzie scale. He's a four. That's that's pretty, that's like middle. He's told me that he's attracted to woman before, and I'm like, wow, and actually recently yeah, like not recently, but like you know, he's he's mentioned that,

like it's a thing. Like he's not a list. It's not like a completely only tried to coment like the way I am like, it's for me. It's just I'm pretty sure I like boys. Yeah, but I'm sorry to cut you off. You're gonna say something else about what about Kinsey four. No, no, No, that's just that just

that that he's a Kinsey four. I mean I think that he's he's mentioned him into me that he's attracted to and I'll and I'll just like I'll try to wrap my brain around it, just because it's not my experience. But that's how, you know, And that's why I said before about like, yeah, maybe some straight dudes want to

Vogue and others don't. Like I really just believe that hopefully one day we get to a point where it's like, yeah, everyone can ever do whatever the fuck they want and not have to put this like number on the Kinzies Gale on it. I guess, yeah, it is interesting, but but I mean, just fucking live your life. So Matt, and now you're six to Sam, you're maybe a five. I'll give it a five. Wow. Cool, that's cool A little bit for a girl. Okay, but sex in the

city you moved, you moved moved twenty eleven. Uh, and it had a slow uptake. My approach was, uh, scruff and like okay Cupid dates, but like I knew we're going to go anywhere, like it was like, but it was fine for the physicality for sure, Like the dates were more daring in the hookups, and I was like, I'm in public, terrified is he going to kiss me at the end of the day? Do I kiss like outside? Yeah? And you're like, oh god, but that is like a

hot part of it. It's fun and new. Well that age because I went to college in Virginia, which is a little more conservative than a little bit more red State, honey, a little bit bitchy. A lot of PlayStation players in Virginia absolutely shaped them, shaped them. Yeah, no, I get it. And so I was like, I came out to my friends, but I wasn't right. Yeah, but I was still like like I'm still hidden. Yes, it was a soft I

have a soft opening, soft launch. Oh, remind me to talk about Universal Studios news later to give because I have new Um, that's that's very interesting. Yeah. I mean, man, I just feel like the first time I got a taste of like what it was like talking about with a boy, I was like, oh, no, this is it's the best. Well yeah, and then I went to I lived in Chicago and the summers my parents lived there, so I just go to gay bars as soon as I turned one and that's when I that was my

real opening. Yeah, I feel like Sam and I caught each other at a time when when you were both really horning. Now I knew was just Sam. Sam and I have seen each other just fucking wasted, Like I don't think I'll ever get that drunk again in my life. Okay, that makes one of us. But I've seen Sam and Sam and I have gone to these gay bars in Chicago where it was just like the funnest time ever. And it was and I wasn't even like cooking up with people. It was it was just like a gay awakening.

And Sam was like a steward in that regard. So thank you Sam, Thank you Bow. But now you're now you're in your own committed relationship. I am lovely with a man named Misha. Misha, She's a lovely person. So great. Yeah, I love him. Um. We we met at Metropolitan Bar as a hook up. Oh really, so it was like it was like a setup to be a hook up. Well we just like drunkenly, it was like a one night stand. Like we didn't hate each other beforehand, but

it was like that's me. Yeah, that's like the dream is like, oh God, like I would die for to meet someone not through an app and be like that's not it's like, I mean that's just how you meet people that I know what it is. I'm not I'm kind of stigmatizing it, but like it's refreshing when it's not, when it's still like done, you know what's pretty liberating though, Bowen like just sucking deleting all the apps and then

just being like fuck it. I mean that's I think that's the place I was in when I was like and then I was in and then all of a sudden I met Henry just from life, you know. Yeah, yeah, I had deleted, not like if I needed it, but I had stopped like trying to go on dates. Like I was like, that's not the way for me, Like no, I mean, dates are they're also so they can be so bad. So I oh my gosh, I'll just say this. I went on a date a few dates with someone

who's now on a really popular television show. Okay, dish first and last, dame. I don't know, I nev Okay, at least pull up a pick on your phone. They're not gonna listen tag them. I was literally whispered into that koked up with the guy that's on Unreal Math. You'll know who it is when you watch it. It cannot wait, it's not even it's it's really good. So basically, um, but it was the it was bad. It was the

worst date. Oh yeah, like it was like but the way people act, I think when they when they know they're on a date that that actually was like one of one of the worst dates. You know what's best you just you just took up with them first, you both did this with your with your boys, is that you hooked up with them, and then it's sort of

evolved from there. We were friends and then like you guys never went on a date like before because I only it was single ten minutes before, right, I told you he I hope he's not furious that I'm talking about or whatever. I don't think he is. First and last name guys really quickly. Sam is sort of developing a podcast. If there's any like big budget podcast network out there that wants a hot idea, this is potentially destructive.

This idea say it okay speaking into I'm so nervous, but goes damn so podcast coming soon, one can assume is called who do you hate. You just ship talk people that are real and that you hate on the podcast using first and last names, and that's in your personal life or like both all lives. Like I think, I think we're it's most successful where if it's like very personal and it's like people that most people don't know, but but you were able to speak it so vividly

that like we feel like we do know. Doesn't this make you so nervous? But it doesn't. Yeah, And if it's like up for like very short period of time and then gone forever, No, I think you gotta stand by it. I think you gotta stand You got to burn the world. Yeah, I think it's a very burn the world type thing because it's like it's I don't know if you guys had juicy campus at your and it just like it target Did they target you? I was under the radar. I didn't get targeted. It was

basically like every other thread was like closet gaze listom. Yeah, it was. It was so fucked up. That's how you know, the worlds of bad places, bad people. It was so evil, but it was talked about so much and I feel like we can recreate. Okay, it's very fuzz worthy. But look, Sam, I feel like that's don't you do you think that that's just an evolved form of cyberbullying in a way.

I think there yes, Like theoretically, like the people that are ship talked, like there needs to be a system where it's like the people that are ship talked, then it means there's the next episode. Absolutely, Oh I love that, So that it's like they can then speak their piece and say who they fucking hate or what about this?

What if it's like kind of like a um Joe Schmo type situation where it's like someone and then they call a person to be on a podcast with them, and it's like it's gonna be about like, um, it's gonna find out that it's a podcast called I Hate You and it's you telling them how much you hate them. No way. Well, I think it would also make you

realize that you don't actually hate anyone that much. But then I think it would like cleanse you a little because you're like, I don't actually like that was so petty to be like published live whatever, Like that doesn't need to be out there. I think there could be like positiveness to come out of it. Maybe around to something. I believe you mentioned juicy campus that was such a blast in the past. Honestly I was. Now I'm friends with people that got it so bad on juicy campus,

and that must have been so painful. I remember I used to I used to run to my computer and check that website to make sure I wasn't honest when we were in high school college. I did it to see, like to like see who to prey upon, like who's gay? Like I was like this rule, who's bullying? Can I manipulate it? Like which like frat bros are closeted and gay? Like that sounds incredible. That's entire list. Have you ever chalked up with the straight guy? Yes, I wish I have. Sam. Yeah,

that's that's the dream. Oh my god, but you don't look happy about it. I've had Like I'm I can be a bit of a deviant, like uh, like when you're like ruining someone's life, it's like this is kind of fun, Like, oh my god, Sam is the king of beef. I'll say it. I mean it's been said, but Sam, Sam's Sam. It's sure, Sam tag does start some being this is it's villainous. But you but you work with it, you use you, you own it. I gotta go dark and then I'll go light again next year.

You know what, you have to break yourself completely down so you can put yourself back Sam. Sam says that this podcast would be a huge hit because of Donald Trump's rise. He's saying, that's proof that people love sham Tagget is a Trump voter, taggets PlayStation. Yeah, it's so real. I love that parallel. It's like Trump's Trump Trumps rises proof. All he does publish talk and so people publish all of it. They eat it up. It's so fun to hear.

Before we before we move on to the end of our episode, I do want to ask one basic ask question, and because that's sexy the city against section of the city, let's just say, Sam, who do identify with? Who? What? Which? Other ladies always oh my god, and you're allowed to. It's just like, honestly, I feel like I'm the weird hybrid between Samantha and Charlotte. I'm the in between. You know.

I've seen that you play Charlotte very well in broad Gay, So I see that and then you're yeah, you've got them, Samanthe and you yeah, yeah, for sure, Like you've got the um I I want. I'm like Marianda ten Charlotte. M that checks out. So eight twenty. Why do you think, Uh, there's there's some naivete, there's some obliviousness. Uh you know, I feel like I'm half the time I'm like that

person who's just like what's going on? What I'm I'm so out of the loop in that Charlotte way, And then the rest of the time I'm just Miranda, And then I'm like neurotic and all of those trappings. What about you, Matt, I do feel like a car okaynoxious to say, but I understand what she does and why she does it a lot. Like I think like sometimes she knows, like like I get the thing of like, oh I know this is wrong, like but I do

it anyway. Like I think she's like a very kind of hearts like passionate person, and I identify with that. I also think she kind of knows better every time she does something that's wrong. And if I really think about all the kind of mistakes I've made in my life, it's been that it's like, well, you knew that that was stupid, And I just like get her and less even like, I know I'm a Carrie, I just don't necessarily seeing myself as a Samantha Miranda or a Charlotte's Fair.

That checks out, I'll give you that for sure. I don't think it's so Basically, it's a problematic and flawed question, and I'm glad that we exposed it. That's beautiful. Can I just throw out there that I really think that you guys should consider doing the pilot of Desperate Housewives? I would agree with I like that. I like that, or like a classic grays anatomy up that too, but it's not as gay. Okay, Well, so here's because I'm

just gonna say something that might cause some beef. Well, because Santagas on the show we have, we're allowed to do that. I'm not gonna say we started this track. I'm not the same name. Oh my god, I know where this is going. I'm saying there's this and I'm not saying we started this. But there's been this uptick in like these like re enactment shows and reinterpretation shows. And Sam has pointed this out to me as well.

I'm I'm sure he has, but but I think what makes broad gay special is that it's like the subjection matter that we're parenting is a comment on the asting decision is that it's a reimagining of Sex in the City with gay man and Sex in the City is a show that sort of celebrates and also like in some ways undercuts gay culture, right. I would say that's fair to say, yeah, our show is different because it

like has a point of view. Wow. So anyway, so Sam so so A lot of times, so Sam and I have had this discussion where we're like, we're like, what if we were to do other shows, what will we do? And then Sam is like, well, and Sam is a sort of rightfully resistant to when we think of other shows because it's like, wouldn't no Sex in the City is a gay show if you name all these other shows like Golden Girls stops close, Desperate Housewives

comes close. But like even I would say Grazy Anatomy as a departure because it's not like a gay show. It's very much like a two thousand six show, you know what. Also was pretty viable I think doing like a full ass movie like Crossroads, cross Roads or oh yeah, I've had some other ones sort of in the cant or that you know, yeah, or clue like clueless art of the travel Pants. I would love Yeah, I I just want to throw my hat at for Blake Lively.

If that happened, I would be America forever. When you would be Alexis Liddell. Sure you definitely check out. Who's the other one, fucking amber Tamberlin? I would be amber T Hamblin. That's that's Julio. That's Julio taure, says Ambert Hamblin, and I'm saying I'm loud. No, Ambert Hamblin is Max Twitter. I want to say too, just like like like what all good all good casting decisions? Yeah wait, I was

wait where was I right before that? Just like we're naming other shows and media that could be there's a lot Our show is the point of bargain, has a point of view. Sure, shots fired, you guys. But that we're going to move on to our last segment um, which is called I don't think so, honey. So basically, for those of you listening at home on the subway, at work on the subway, at work on the sub way,

at home, sorry, hold on, got to look right away. Basically, um, we're gonna take sixty seconds on the clock, and we're gonna rail at something in culture, in life that's pissing us off. And the more you can use the words I don't think so, honey, then while you're driving your point home, and the more Bowen and I are entertained. Yes, and uh so, let's put sixty o'clock. When do you want to go first? You first? Do you have something? I am pretty close to having something. Does that mean

you want to start? You go first? Okay, so you want to put women, I'll put on putting women on the clock. And Bowen's I don't think so, honey begins now I don't think so, honey. Southwest Airlines bitch. I was supposed to get back into New York City on Sunday night at My flight was at five three. You're supposed to get in touchdown at eight o'clock. Guess what happened. I get to the airport, I sit on the Atlanta Marta train system. I get there hours early, just to

be the responsible traveler that I am. I get there, they keep pushing the they keep delaying the flight back by half our increments until it's nine fucking clock at night. I'm still stuck in the airport, and then finally, because of stormy weather in New York, they cancel the flight. The earliest time they can get me back is Tuesday, this day, today afternoon. Guess what, guys, I'm not saying, and I might not be at liberty to say this necessarily. I was supposed to shoot a scene on a show

with a famed musical theater actress. Let's just say she's the foremost interpreter of Stephen Sondheim's works. She has red hair, very curly, she has a very an easily voice, and I was supposed to do a scene with her. And listen, I had to cancel out of I pull out of that shune and call my manager on the verge of tears. And that's all because of Southwest Airlines' fault. I don't think so, honey, Southwest Airlines, I don't think so. In

a minute, I guess sorry. I got a little income here in towards the end because he was so mad and so worked up just three living that. That wasn't my problem with what you did. What was what was your problem with it? My problem with what you did was the lack of I don't think so honey, because I had to get I had to get a lot of exposition information out there. Do you want to know what my problem with it was? But you didn't list

first and last names. Guys, I will Bernard. I was supposed to do a scene with Bernard's Atte Peters and then I had to fucking cancel it. I felt like a fucking I was like, I could have told my kids about this. Do you know what I'm saying? You can still tell your kids about it. I mean, that's what's important. That's I mean whatever. I'm just I'm I was surprisingly then about it. I was like, you know what, I left the air part. It's like, it's fine, it's fine,

it's fine. It just wasn't meant to be alright, I have one. All right, here we go, putting sixty seconds on the clock and go. I don't think so, honey, flash flood warnings on my god damn phone. I don't want to hear it, if you like, unless it's a serious, serious problem. I don't want to see the words flash and flood. Okay, if I'm walking outside, I can still walk around. I don't want to have to have been worried. I don't think, so, honey, I don't own goloshes. I'm

not gonna get him because I know that. Guess what, every time I get a Texas flash flood warning, it's going to be a ruse. I've never seen a flash flood in my life. As far as I'm concerned, they don't even exist. I'm a flash flood truther. I get a goddamn buzz on my phone and I think it's a text, and it's a flash flood, I'll be sick to my stomach. I don't think this weekend, I got two or three texts about a flash flood, and yet I still see the ground. So I don't think, so honey,

text or whoever you are, whoever decides the government. Maybe life so farce follow the money. I don't think, so honey. Okay, that was one minute. Did I lose steamer? Was I just confidently driving home a point? I mean, you made your point, and then you were sort of you were sort of you know at sea. I was gonna I was gonna say, you know what, I'll tell you something. Bit. You can turn those notifications off and I'll show you how well if it's a real emergency, I want to

know about it. Well, then you can't have it both ways. I can have it both ways because I just want to. I just want them to know if it's a real emergency or not. When I get an emergency text on my phone makes a noise it's never made before, and I looked down at this flash flood. I know it's not going to come to fruition, which then you need to You need to have other sources and don't rely on that text message. Honey, I am terrified. It is time for Sam's I don't think so, Honey, woman is

on the clock starting now. Okay, I don't think so, honey. Lost Culture Rita's podcast not talking about the fucking new Instagram stories, like you guys can share ourselves people that are like in touch, and it's like something literally was released to day and it's like people are depending on you for sucking like advice in culture of the contemporary world, and here you don't even mention maybe the biggest thing

that happened in all of today. It's unbelievable and I feel like you guys should take off your fucking silly ass hat. Let's face the facts. If you have your finger even near the poles. You would be vibrating, yet you are silent. You're not inste you know, are not cultures at all, You're just guys. Oh my god, that is unprecedented, unprecedented. He melted us into whimpering little little masses. Oh my god, the first time someone has truly told us what's what we were the I don't think so,

Honey's we were the culture being under attack. Wow, honestly I respect you. Oh my god, Sam, thank you so much. Thank you guys for having me. This is proved positive that who do you that was the culture of the week. But I'm saying, like that is what who do you hate? Would be? It's like, you know what fucking school you bitch on what you're doing wrong? I love it? I love it. You know what if that was the trailer for the show, I think we need to see us

been off. I'm looking my producer, Joe dead in his eyes. Where are you on the kinzie scale? H three point five? Oh my god, I did not know. Thank you for asking that, man. That's what I'm saying. We need to burn them. I want to unders the podcast with this, burn the world. Everyone's gay, Everyone's gay? Joe, I think you should green Land? Who do you hate? Who do you hate? I love it? Um, I think we're gonna skip culture the week. This week we're going to say,

but this is a full last episode. Can you can you really quickly sum up your new Universal News or yes, I know that we all live. We all listen to the podcast from my Universal News and updates. So Universal Studios, Florida Islands Adventure has opened Skull Mountain, Rain of cong and the reviews are in and it's an immersive experience. Um Deride is a three sixty covered um three D experience.

You journey through the tomb of Skull Island and it ends the right you could look suffice it to say this about six five six minutes of like good, solid, real immersive three D thrilling action and then and then at the end there is the largest animatronic ever of King Kong. And I did get a little spoiler. I looked online and it looks pretty fucking fierce. So that is brand new news and incredible. Hulk Coaster is going to be open again soon, a glorious return, and it's

been revamped and made even better. My first roller coaster and I threw up you threw up after Hulk? Yeah? Wow? Have you ever thrown up on a coasters? Never? Never? Once? Do you like coasters? Them? Guys, thank you so much for being here uh and listening to us on most culturalists. We love you, Santaggart. Where can they follow you on on the social media? Following me on Twitter at Sam t Taggart I believe and then on Instagram at Sam Taggart.

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