"Lalu Baba" (w/ Sabrina Jalees)

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over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Something just where Literally every single one of our hundred plus episodes, we started the episode the same way. It goes three to one, we say dig dong. He went three to one, and I said to one, I forgot our sign him. But I kind of was into it. I was I liked the little spice, you like the spontaneity, honey. But can I tell you something. Tell me this girl in high school, Leilanie, I forgot her last name. She's very sweet.

But one time she posted on my MySpace, but when I love your spontaneity, spy, oh my god, the word for me, because now I think the word is actually spontaneity. Correct someone, I'll be like, it's actually spotanuity, and then they're like, no, it's not I love sponty. Actually, no, it's the stupidest word. Number nine. It's spontanuity. I'm not repeating that. We have to, ok, it is, it's spontaneity.

And also it's kind of like I declare that this is not a word, but you say it's a word tragical, tragical. It is tragic. It's not tragical. I think tragical is a word. Look it up at one time, talk about this tragedy and she was like, it's so tragical, it's so tragical, butting it like she's like it's tragical, and like it really was tragic. But the fact that she kept calling it tragical, I was like, you're making no. No, it's a great way to add levity to like a

funeral totally, you know, everybody on the same page. And that's saying a word wrong. Who is this talking? I came from nowhere, but I hear to say certain comments about a word. You say, Oh my god, this poet, this rhythmical girl. And I'd also like to add to Leilani, I hope she listening and correcting. She has been using that word without correction until this episode of Hold On,

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hour space. I don't want to do stand up for longer than fifteen minutes. I agree, Yes, you gotta be honest. I don't want to see it for minutes. Literally, give me seven minutes in a year. I'm killing you know. I'm gonna make my seven minutes count. It's gonna be the eighth hour space. That's gonna be huge. Writer for a starch party, right for search starger for a good show, and there you go. I and we A little Birdie told us the scuttle about it is the smallest bird

was so crazy small. I was like, what are you doing here? So small? See it? And you guys were like, is that a bird? I think it's a fly, but we look closer it was. It was a bird. A little Bertie told us that she wrote the huge wedding episode in the upcoming season. Um, and she's the host of I got an acting on it too. Oh really yeah?

And there it involves stunts and I'm so it involved stunts. Yes, we have to talk about stunt people, just as I loved I have like really good I just had one good moment with a lady named Mary Alby who taught me a lot of lessons and she was a stunt person. Her last name was teased to the Mary Alby. See how action packed this episode of the first She's she's

an Albie, She's she's a granddaughter, grand daughter. Um and my sexy podcast, We're so happy And also showing development with Fox with the one and only writing a sitcom I'm writing. We love her so much and uh, we love Wolfie, we love life. I'm a daddy type mom. Daddy type mom. Welcome our guest. Hell, hello everybody. It's nice to be here. I feel that I'm supported if I do something like this in this type of support.

You know why we support it is because everyone in this room, including Emma, is part of the lgbt Q plus communities, Honey, part of the lgbt Q plus community, and it is a community in what you choose your own family. We have our first queer hot producer. It's it's fabulous. You're for did you kick someone out for somebody? Was? He has? He has left on? But I had a way to say someone died, someone died, but then happen then Emma. We were left with in very capable hands

with Emma, so we're so excited to have her. Anyway, everyone carried me up the stairs for me. Yeah, because why couldn't walk a by yourself? I fainted, you know, I faint before a podcast. God, this is like I was like walking over here and thinking should I say it? Because it makes me if I don't say it. But there were good celebs at the party. Should I say, I don't know who who are they? Okay, just like casually and by the way, I wasn't like I wasn't

thinking about it. But um, obviously everyone from Search Party, so Alia John Reynolds, who's going to shoot a thing with Jessica Williams obviously to England for six months to shoot it, six months in England, six months in England, and then Jessica is going to shoot another movie after that in English. She's just in England forever. Jessica is, She's totally queen. But then Ellen Page casually the best

friend that she does. Yes, um, but I didn't talk to everybody but anyway, but then and then I met a devil with a full red face, and I was like, it's so wild that I'll never know what you look like in real life. That person was Tessa Thompson. Yes, I love that she just like had Also was that I got a good fucking weird, a good weird Halloween costume. That person was Thompson. That person was Tessa Thompson. Who else? I mean probably there was like directors speaking in accents.

It was just like amazing, I just like, can I tell you what my instinct was? That who should be at the party. I don't know why I think this person is super cool lately, but I know they're in Brooklyn, and I felt like maybe they could have been at this party. Fucking Anne Hathaway. I was like, I bet Anne Hathaway was at the party. Wasn't Is Anne Hathaway's brother is still around New York doing Mike's because when I was here, brother, I don't he wasn't out when

I saw him. There's one gay brother and then maybe there's another comedy brother. There was a brother that was doing Mike's and he would casually say my sister and his last name was Hathaway, and everybody knew that his sister was Anne Hathaway. And it was like the biggest uphill battle for him to talk about literally anything other than it's just like all I want to know. I

sometimes think about that. It's like the siblings and the siblings people, It's like, how do you get around, especially when your name is something like Hathaway, And I would imagine that he resembles her. If you could pick one person to be at the party, who great questions with the snakes being zero because it's a party in the past that you were not we were supposed to be there, and I think there's honestly, over the past twenty four hours,

there's been tons of like personal failings. We failed to make it to the party, Charles failed to make it to this podcast. I was very late to the studio as well. Um. If I had to pick one person, um, oh my god, it would have been Ellen Burston. I want. I wanted Ellen Burston to be I wouldn't. I would have loved Monica Lewinsky was at the party, hold her hand ful her in the eyes and say I am apologizing on behalf of this entire nation. I hope at

least three people say that to her every day. I think, and I wonder, what was it was it this year that people shifted when it was? It was it was around the election, it was around people have been done? Shifted about Monica Lewinsky. I think because I think we all, like in the past three or four years, like it was felt bad. It was pre me too, even where everyone was like, oh ship, like we did her wrong. Her TEDtalk was ted talk talk. I didn't, but I feel like I know what she said and I like it.

There it was about like online bullying and she considers herself the first virally bullied person. But she may be correct about um okay, we're racing Joan of Arc. There was no incident that there was. There was, there was. She was viral. She was virally bullied. She was virally bullied. They someone gave her a virus. I think I think she No, you're right, I think Monica Lensky is maybe that's the first person, but there I feel like she is. She is erasing some other things. I feel like if

you would have needed to do back in the day. Look, I think Leilanni, Leilanie was just like cute, half Asian, half white, like whatever. Genetically she's cute. She's making that name good and kid Leilani. I feel like, I feel like Leilani is yeah, some like R and B. Leilani is something you name your kid because you think I'm going to give them an interesting name and oops, you gave them like the most superior, like ridiculous name. No, no,

thanks to Leila. I mean it probably means something cool in the culture. You're like drunken, kidding, roisteds and it's nor is it when the chopstick at your head, it means it means religious flower. It means religious religious flower. Than I'm back to your side. I'm understanding away from Lei. LEI gives me khlua. Do you think that saying blessing it gives me? It gives me, Like Leilani, it's like it's like you know, I don't know, it's it's a bottle.

What are you saying about blessing? Oh? I want to say blest and blessing, but I don't want anyone to think I'm religious. To come for you, that's my I think this is a struggle. It's a true struggle because there's nothing that replaces it. How do we d how do we de associate, dissociate? Yeah, you're gonna come from miss le Lani about spontaneity and you're talking about how how do we dissociate? I have the mechanism, bitch to direct you are a bit. How do we dissociate like

religious words from religion? I think we I think that I want to be able to say alms without like any sort of with that, like donations, like give albums. I want to be able to say, like use that in everyday conversation with that evoking religious immestry. I agree. I think that I just want to collect some alms without being pinned as a Christian. Yeah. Absolutely. I also think remember the Christian Aguilera song. Yes, I think we can't say that anymore about or else the right just right.

I just feel like hashtag blast has now become more associated with the millennial culture, and like is the is like the way to disassociate, But then you're like, you know, part of something that's so yesterday. Wait, but it's true.

Like whenever someone has receives an award and they say I'm so blest, I look around the room and people roll their eyes and I'm like, maybe they just couldn't find the non religious words, but it is like there's nothing like truly when I hold my little baby son, when I'm like under the big tree in our backyard, I say, but I also think, maybe maybe it's not bad, Maybe that's not that. Maybe then the blessing that it

is obviously attached to something. But then let's just maybe shift God into the universe, like you know, like that do that thing. It's like, you know, it's crystals, it's love, it's trees, it could be any diverse are I think that people sometimes choose to say, um, the universe gave me this instead of like thank God. And also I feel like it's all cookie cookie, but there there is some like linguistic thing where it's like you have the word,

you have the concept, and it doesn't mean something. It doesn't sound cookie, but it's still means that same thing where it's right. But when you say I think the universe, you are thinking quote unquote god, I think the I think the world is fun, right, I think the world. I think the world. I've got a good replacement for an awkward thing that you can't. You can't say the R word. You can't be like right, you can't do that.

You'd replacement. My father's Pakistani said, it's a replacement. It's lulu. Oh my god. What doesn't mean literally, it's like it's it doesn't. I don't think that. It doesn't. It just means like someone who's episode. It wasn't. It was too soon to bring her back, but she was giving us kalua. When a girl gives you klua, you invite her back in the room. There was a character named Klua and Bridesmaids, and I thought it was the funniest name the other girl.

That word that Christen Rigg worked out. They were like, she was like, look at Kalua, look like that girl. Is my favorite thing to do in writing a script is give wicked name names. Yeah, just like for no reason not explained, it's just is the Dora That's who it is. Klue was also the name of Rachel Dratch's uh character in The America's Next Top Model Scotch That James Anderson and James Anderson is the master of names. Tia Mornings, Tia mo Chang. I love Tia morning Morning, truly,

I don't know. It's it's very dumber. It's fund fun of the proud names. It was Dora that just love that love that who came up with Wolfie um Seana had a dream eight years ago and woke up and she's, you know, like hyper mystical lady, and uh she was like, our kid's name is gonna be Wolfie Wolfe. Yeah. And I also had been like meditating on that name since I was young because I always had a crush on

Jennifer love Hewett. But then on Party of Five, Scott Wolf would have sex with her, So I did the thing I don't did you guys do that where you like have a crush on the guy that's having sex the girl. So I was like, I love Scott Wolf on his kissinger to kiss him. Scott Wolf actually is so hot though, and we've forgotten. I bumped into him in an airport and you were like, I used to rub it fusedly to you. So I just didn't not touch myself because that's head. I was busy. But that

about you with the kids that boobs love. I would really just picture her hugging out. I would have fantasies off like we would go to Cancun, the specific one fantasy that I would just be like and play, just play on the VHS and the ribbons would turn and we would be laying by the pool, and you know, people would come and recognize her and talk to her, but we would not have time for them. Boys would hit on us, but we would be too busy with

our friendship. And was still still patonic at this point. Yeah, still I was in my mind. I was like, it just would be the friendship of a lifetime, but down to like her holding. I would picture her holding me in the way her breasts would feel against my body, and I was just like we what be buddies. I

used to do the same sometimes I would. It's true, like especially at that age when you're at that young age where you're like, you don't get to just I mean, you can't just go out and be a little hole like like I am. Often now, like the touch of another was just such a rare thing, so I would just remember I would hug my male friends and be like another touch of another. God, that's another good title. Yeah,

the touch of another should just be there. Should just be gay schools right like schools were like schools were just queer. It's it's it's all queer schools where culturally it's fine to just like everyone at the everyone at the dance. There would be so much this. You're saying you want segregation a little bit, Yeah, I want. I

want sexual segregation, separate but equal, like I think. I think when it comes to queer folks, it should be like because because isn't this the thing where our growth is our at least are my sexual growth is stunted? And it's maybe it's what you're saying where it's like if you just had that access at an earlier age, you feel like you're you're like playing out high school leves, like just maybe in a way, yeah, but also just you're getting You're getting it's to scale, it's to like

it's separate but equal. It's like you're, well, I don't, I don't know, Like, if your kid is gay, do you want them to go to a school of only gay people? Because I think diversity make it like the key to there. You go, Okay, mine, Fine, I'm just I'm I'm having this little thought experiment in my head about like what that would look like. Get this though, what it is different nowadays? Because my friend is a

middle school health teacher. She texted me the other day and she said that her one of her students, like Loki, came out to her in a project um, and she went to go speak to his counselor, and the counselor was like, oh, it's good that he's saying that, because like he wasn't there like last year when apparently he brought up some things about potentially maybe thinking about self

harm and things like that. So I think that, But I feel like seventh grade is fucking early, yeah, because even kids that like I will eventually identify as straight don't really know what they're the issue or like the one of the big things about realizing your gay is like we all obviously you everybody listening to this knows this, but like everything's fluid, we all land somewhere and everybody is learning that, and people are learning, like straight identifying

people are learning what they like in a partner way late too, because we're all marketed these weird ass like it's a barbie, it's a can, it's a lumberjack, and man, it's a thing, a little doodle, it's the perfect little guy, frosty tips, little ab then the little little It's like you know these like these like catchphrase things that you like see that you're like, that's the way I will do. Like even just the way I placed myself as Scott Wolf to love Jennifer Love Hewitt. It's like all just

like these binary it's pretty hurts. It's very pretty hurts, um pretty hirs even like fucking Matt was just lamenting Anthony popping up on his feet. It's like, well, that is something that is being fed to you. And Antony popped up on my feet. And every time Anthony from Gray pops out on my feet, I literally I get so angry at my because I'm like, stop it, Like it's just like every time it gets me. He's so fucking everything Canadians is Canadian. Yeah, Canadian. We didn't talk

about this in Montreal, Montreal. You're Toronto and Montreal. Oh yeah, I was just in Toronto and it was fun as fun. Toronto is such a good I mean, that's where we're gonna run away to if the things happened, that's okay, but we don't run away. We'll try to make everything better obvious, like we have to run away. I thought about Toronto as a place to run away. I mean, would wait till you see Vancouver. Baby, We're going to Vancouver next. Like, don't you think that Toronto is where

you live? Where where I live? I actually see myself more in Montreal. Toronto feels a little too Midwest, right, I mean, I'm not I'm not saying that, Jorda. I'm not saying that it is. I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm saying like, actually, no, Toronto is actually great because Niagara Falls is right there. She's putting on I will do the jingles and no, wait, I don't I think I'm more I'm just I mean, everybody loves their hometown. That's that's what it is. Some people

it's a spectrum. You fall into love with Montreal. I already told you this in Montreal, and I don't want to talk about it, but I do that. I like, my first girlfriend was in Montreal from yeah, and I would like take a Greyhound from Toronto to Montreal. No one would know. I would be secretly gay in Montreal and then hoop ear rings back in Toronto. Earrings carried into the first zone of me being gay. I was like wearing mini skirts, hoop ear rings and had butcher

girlfriend and something didn't feel right. But your girlfriend, but your girlfriend. Yeah, Like I was in the back of the motorcycle. I just want to drive it. I want to hold the bars, not a waste bars. Please please give me the bars. Okay, you guys, this is Matt and I had to get on here and they didn't. They're not even, they're not even. There's no gun to my head right now. I just had to get on here and tell you that I am so obsessed with everything I just got from ever Lane. You guys, I'm

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I have one. Anyway, I'm excited, and you can be excited too if you go to everline dot com slash ding dong and plus you get free shipping on your first order. That's everline dot com Forward slash ding Dong. Everline dot com Forward slash ding Dong. But I wanted to before we run too far away from Wolfie tell you this amazing magic thing, which is that. Um, so she had this dream eight years ago. Um, our kid's name is Wolfe. When we we didn't know how we

were going to make our kid. We were just like sort of scoping things out, asking questions about adoption and asking questions about our friends that conceived and um, Shanna gets sick in uh Saylita Mexico. When we're on vacation, I take a surf lesson and my instructor is this gorgeous angel that like if I was casting the mail me in the movie. Oh my God, Jeffrey self told us about this. It's and it was just in So I met him. We drank mes cow after started chatting.

His dad as a police chief, his mom is a chemist. He is an amazing just like chill soul picks up like a piece of garbage casually on the beach, keeps walking. I'm just like I want like, I'm just like it was him yearning for that, and I knew it was him, And then I asked Shanna. Shawna is like, you're crazy. She meets him in a second, She's like, you can

ask him. And then so I take another lesson and I asked him in the water, and in the water I see as we're going out for the first time, on his back is a tattoo of a wolf shut up and arms, arms, the crop of the wolf, the like face of the wolf, and the style is exactly the same as a year before. Same time. We're taking a vacation in Palm Springs and our friends happened to be there. We do like a joke Christmas present exchange and they give us a plate that has a wolf

on it. They know nothing about this, like wolf plan um. And in the corner it says mom, like someone had drawn it for their mom. Wow, that's fucking crazy. Same crop. Yeah, oh my god. Wow. Okay, so then you got to take a picture just to have it on the ready of the plate. The thing the tattooed. You need to put it a little bit, get a trip to because honestly, like that is that's like some ship. And today I'm getting a tattoo of a wolf. That's universal tattoo. I'm

getting These are fake tattoos from last night. I was dressed up Ashana. But I'm getting a tattoo right here. It'll be a wolf a girl. And then on top a little owl. It's a big tattoo. I'm very nervous, but I'm playing it cool. Yeah. Yeah, It's like you got to be like when people are like, aren't you nervous to get on stage in front of all those people,

It's like, no, bitch. But then you're like, you know, you look through your set list of course, and then but yeah, okay, so you ask it riff, just riff. You you asked him for his spurt? What's his reaction? Beautiful? It's just like all meant to be, Like it's in the water and it's I mean, it's felt the same way like when I saw Shanna and I knew that she was important in my life, and you know, like it's just like you see someone and you're like, this

is the stakes could not be higher. You know, It's like this is like and and meet, Like when you want to meet someone and you want to come off as or like, you know, you wanna come off as chill, but what you're asking or what you want is so big chill, so not chill, my daddy. Surfing lessons are also the most fraud okay, but I guess was it

one on one? It was one on one. Yeah, because what I pictured was like blue crush, like Michelle Rodriguez will be like on the waves together, just like high five, and it'll be like, you know, tip your nose up and I'll be like, I can't hear you over the whip. But what it is is it's a lot of like sit standing in the water. You're laying on top of the board. He's holding the nose of the board and looking at the ocean and looking into your eyes and waiting to like release you into the right wave at

the right time. And it's very much like bringing up this like big thing out of nowhere. You're waiting for like the right conversational energy to be like and this is me. I'm getting up on the board of what I'm asking you, you know. So I said, um, would you I said, I've I mean, I want to ask you something. And I don't feel any pressure. This is maybe going to be a strange thing. And I've never

asked anyone this before but you. But you know, like my wife and I would like to have a baby, and we were wondering if you would be interested in helping us. Wow, And he looked at me and he smiled and he was like, that sounds interesting. He's like, I don't know how that works, but you guys are a beautiful couple, and if I can help you, then that sounds interesting. So then I just like took the next wave in and ran up to Shanna. I was like, oh my god, though, that was like I ran up

to Yeah. I ran up to Shanna, told her, ran back, and you know, like did a couple more waves. It was just like, you know, like in my mind putting together prototypes of like how to get the jis inside Shanna. I also knew nothing about ovulation. I knew nothing about

the process. So I was just like running to bodegas and saw you leader like emptying tampons, like trying to like will the applicator work, or like taking a dish glove and like cutting the thumb that was my best prototype and then duct taping it and then cutting a hole. I just I didn't know Also, how little sperm came out of it pain. I thought like I'd be piping icing into Sean, just like how did it work. The way that it actually did work was no, we did

it ourselves. And this is like I want to talk about it all the time. Because I want people to know, like, um, that you can do you can try this. I know that like no one is entitled to like a specific birth path it's gay or straight. It's like you just sort of like wiggle into whatever door opens. But um, but basically we just calculated Shaanna's apulations. Went back to Mexico. Um, and he came into a sterile cup Shanna made like an altar in our airbnb. He so he came into

the No, that wasn't the order. He came into the cup. Shawna makes the everyone knows um and then he leaves. I put it into a sterile syringe like needle without a needle. Put that in my arm under my arm pit. Um, and so it stays warm. Shanna and I made love, yea. I put the sperm inside of her, so orgasm to get warm and wet inside, and then sperm and then orgasm again to wow for good luck because I'm all

under pressure. Yeah, that's what I prefer it exploding around me. Um, and then you can and the blessings game and the Lord left it, and the and the Lord was like and the Lord and the universe and the like. We all agree right on except the recipe. That's amazing. And then the first time we did that, the that's you know, she got pregnant, amazing, gorgeous. It was truly gorgeous, and we got to like we when we went back, we

got to spend a lot of time with him around. Yeah, he's actually coming to visit in a few weeks with his girlfriend who he met in the water, like weeks after we met him. Amazing, And so has he met Wolf? He is not, but we've faced time. Actually his mom is flying to So what's his relation What do you feel like his relationship is to I think it's like he's his biological father, but he's not his parental father. Of course, I feel like more of the parental father Wolf.

He's gonna call me baba love or do for that

gorgeous la lu baba sounds so cute. Um. Then yeah, and and like you know, we'll just like see what the flow of the ocean is in terms of like there's no pressure on him to be anything, but he definitely I think like just the way the puzzle pieces fit together is kind of perfect where he wants he wants to be around, and that's perfect for the way we want wolfie, you know, to understand this amazing story and how like how intentional and how magic and from

the ocean he is it really? And you know, the crazy thing is the day that I asked him, because after Sean, I was like, you can ask him. It wasn't like it's on. It was like, Okay, this is still a crazy thing, Like I'm just still in crazy town. Like we had the chances of someone being super receptive to this wild kind of like proposition is it's not even that it's smaller bigots that you have no way

of knowing. Yeah. So so so we had like one last day and we were supposed to go out on this deep sea fishing trip and so that would have kind of like taken our day and the chances of bumping into him. Anyways, the trip got canceled because the ocean was too rocky, and so we as we were walking back from that canceled boat trip on this like only time that we could lock this in, he was walking out to teach a lesson and I was like, can I take one after? That's that's amazing? Yeah, tell

the story all the time. Yeah, I want to write a movie about it. You really should or it sounds like at least like maybe even like a limited serious television because you know they were like episode honest book or not to like raw graphic novel, graphic novel, not to draw the straight line. But it feels like that was also fully in Diabolo's wheelhouse to this kind of story.

I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, so cool, yeah cool, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, I mean totally she does these like honest yeah real, yeah, yeah, like I always refer to. Did we talk about Diablo on the podcast? We briefly talked about her before we got record, but we did. We just spoke about it, but we haven't talked about her, but we were saying that, like it's true, she really tully is what I haven't seen. And you were talking about how it's so great to like beble to see

this movie. That really yeah, like just that shot it was in the preview, but the shot of the breast milk bag like just slowly falling. It's like just like a thing that means so much to an audience too. That is just like it's wild that I mean, like gay stories, stories about women. It is so exciting for

us right now because we're at like just this forefront. Actually, when I saw you guys in Montreal and you were having so much fun, um, it was like just this heart like this, like you know, it's just amazing and wild to think, but it is kind of the we're at the forefront of like just being able to like celebrate and be received in that way and not be like pigeonholed into a thing, but just like you know, like not be having to be conscious of how gay

or not gay you are. I think I think now whenever I notice how gay I am, I'm like, oh, that's weird. Whereas I used to notice how gay was all the time. Like I used to I used to feel other and the verdict around it was I'm being so gay fun. But now it's like yeah, now it's like it's honestly, it's cool too for that to be the thing that people like about what you do, know what I mean? Yeah, Well, just that you're just intrinsically

laying in your truth is nice because I think. I mean when when I was younger too, I started stand up when I was sixteen, and there was this it was more about race, but it was the exact same thing of like being conscious of like how brown am I being? And what you know, like how much race stuff am I doing? And it's just like you you get older, wiser and develop as an artist and you realize, like, oh, all of that ship, none of that ship mattered at all. It was always just like how me am I being?

How honest about what I actually want to be talking about on stage? That's like all a for me, Like I would rather just I would rather watch anyone just talk about truthfully what they feel on stage. Then And so in Montreal, the thing I don't know, They're not to name any names or anything, but like there is just like it because of the way things worked, Like even when I started stand up there, it was just inescapable that gay acts would have to There's just like

a pain. There was like a pain that was there that is just like I feel like not, it's like it's still there, you guys, as we are here in this like new era where it's like it's really fun. Yeah, it feels like it only just happened over the past three or four years. Yeah, And that's something I owed Monica Lewinsky. I was gonna say that was what I

was like, this is a queer momentum. But what what's interesting about it though, is it's like I always tell people, like, it's crazy how much has changed in a short period of time, because if you even go back like five years, six years, like which doesn't seem too long ago, but so much sh it has changed, Like I really feel like, and we talked about about this a lot with Mateo actually when he did our show, Like how Mateo had like a little relationship with Joel because they never got

to see each other because they never were booked on the same shows, you know what I mean, just the one of and people would never yeah, and just like, um, how that's sort of change a little bit over the past. Like now when I see a bill, I'm like, I'm so embarrassed for people that put these lineups together if there are no if there's not like more than one, because it used to be like, wow, there's no woman

on this list. Now it's like if I see one woman on the list, I'm like, seriously, Like when I when I see the cast of like a movie and there's one woman, I'm like, I'm not watching any movie where there's one woman. I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't care what the story is. I don't care what the situation is, what you're depicting. I'm just not interested. Not

only Partment did some speech recently. It was for like it wasn't for the human rights campaign might even where she was like, you should be embarrassed, like this is how things should be going forward. You should be embarrassed if you have like some homogeneous cast or some homogeneous group of whatever, like be embarrassed. This is you know. That's how kind of how I feel about the movie

First Man, Like Danil Armstrong movie. I heard it's a great movie, but I'm not interested in seeing it because Claire Foy is the only woman in it. And it's just like it's it has nothing to do with whether or nothing movie is good. It's just like I've seen this story so many times. Yeah, and like a man going into space put upon wife. Yeah, you know what,

and is just it's from that Shooter movie too. It's from like every time a man is doing like the big hero thing and the way it's like you're gonna do what space? It's like, bitch, this has been how far space for dinner? The thing like what am I going to tell our children? It's like, well, This also is a fucking stupid question because if it was you going out there, would you want your husband saying the

same thing to you. It's like this, this writing is dumb, Like these are not the kinds of questions people ask, like and like if yeah, a cool badass space dude is gonna marry a cool badass earthly give your your male hero more credit. I feel like, but these were actually you know, like to tie it back to the roles in the way that we like envision UM like

our mates and what our life will look like. It's like these are these were the options, these are the menu items before and now it's like amazing to to say, like, yeah, it's obvious that this is like an old way of thinking.

These are like old and there's like so there's so many people in um TV writing like old school people that are like back in the day, yes, you used to make a hundred million dollars in episode, and now you've got these you know, one million dollar a year situations and it's like, bitch, you're rich, like and now there's more people making more money. That's good. You know, like a show like Search Party can exist and it

doesn't have to draw you know, forty million people. Everyone doesn't have to like the same thing, but like, let's get more menu items going. And and also I really there's something. There's a very few things I hate than the than the phrase like back in the day, like or like when I was young, it's like that Megan Kelly bullshit of like when I was young used to be able to do this and it wasn't a big deal. It's like, just put your red hat on and walk right.

Just because something is nostalgic to you doesn't mean it was right. It doesn't make you like tougher or braver, like when like when like old white guys say, well, back in my day, it's like that actually doesn't make you tougher, it makes you more limited. Sure, I'm just always worried that we're going to fall into that trump some day two of like wow, I just feel like when people talk about polyamory, I am like, uh, the right way, I'm like, yeah, which is fine, I guess.

I mean, like I just think I haven't because I haven't personally seen people gay men can do it well. And that is that's again a generalization, but I see successful couples playing in that way. Um, but I have not really seen it, and to generalize it is, I mean, yeah, and I wonder what it is about out. I wonder what it is because it's like, yes, it's my own fear. Well I and I think that it's it's a it's

it's it's our own fear. It's also like again, I do think it is like the patriarchy and traditionalism eaking in which I think none of us can deny that it does eke in, and it does affect our choices subconsciously. It works. It's very low, it's one of the most low things about life. But I also think like gay male sexuality, I think is a male sexual life about life, about life about life. Um, but in gay male sexuality and male sexuality, I think is just different than and

then you involve female sexuality. And I do think there are differences in the two. I'm not like, like well versed enough in in both to like talk about why

that is. But it feels like in heterosexual relationship, not only do you have like the traditional like in the patriarchy, kind of creeping in psychologically, but also there's got to be something there that like me because like maybe because it's more like intimate and connective, like the actual like I don't know what it is, but then Sabrina for you for a gay female female relationship, like is yeah, I mean is that does that go against like general

generalizations people make about how it's so monogamous, how those are so like unusually passionately like emotional. That's like I guess like the like the stereotype about like lesbians is like yeah, it's like we look at each other in

the eyes and it's always like that. Whereas game out or like yeah we came, now we can go do it with someone else, Like what yeah, I mean, well, I guess we can be conscious now as after we just had this conversation of like we get it, I want to just put it out there that like gender fluidity everything everyone, Like I do think that like in a future future world, if we really really like trust fell back into openness and truth, we we could be in relationships to each other, you know, like gay men

gay went like just like I do think that haves to have to make a hole in this way that oftentimes, like like when I was saying that, I was like on the back of the motorcycle wanting to grab the polls. It's like i am like I'm in that moment. I'm basically I'm like, it's kind of like a two bitches

don't make it right type attitude. Um, but I think that there's you know, like there's also there's nothing wrong with just uh, things become traditional and think patterns repeat themselves, and that's like, you know, at the end of the day, when we go to the airport, one of us needs to carry the bags, you know, and it's not like I'm like I'm dying to carry the heavy bags when it's like I'm the butcher one, so I will do it.

And then when it came time to carry a baby, it's like, bitch, get those hips cracking U. And it's like so we get to like go on family vacations because we're all doing our role. I think that like you're right about like if we trust fell into what we truth, like what you're saying, like, if we all actually like let ourselves be attracted to what we're all really attracted to, everyone would be fucking their minds would

be blond. Like if we all were just like yeah, really let everything go and allowed ourselves And maybe that's like impossible, but to just do that, it would be crazy. Yeah.

And then at the same time, I think it's like when it comes to maybe there's a thing about polyamory or or openness that is like to me, it's like, I am like, so, um, I feel so lucky to be with my wife, and I feel like I got a really good, you know deal, like like I exchange rated myself to like a really awesome, great person hot sweet uh connected when like such a great that I don't want to like go back into the market and be like, yeah, you grab something, I'll grab something. I'll

may be back here at noon. It's like I'm terrified I come back at noon and there's like just a harem of people around, like one weirdo that I'm just like with someone that I felt bad for and like I've been talking to for four hours since she's been fucking every cool model. Wow, that's that's really Yeah. I don't know. My boyfriend and I ex boyfriend, we tried um being open and it did not work. It seems complicated, frustrated because I was like, why does this work for

everyone else? But then I also think there is like the production not I think everyone not to say that there aren't some open relationship that are just seamless. I'm good for you, that's true, But like, I think there's struggles in a relationship that we don't necessarily hear about. Yes, it probably adds a layer of complication, regardless, it's another

thing to manage. And the and the mental model of success in a polyamorous relationship or in an open relationship, which is I guess it's different, but um oh yeah it doesn't. It doesn't really exist. I mean it's the witch model like like like like when when you hear Monique talk about how like, yes, my husband and I are open and it's been great, Like you don't really know what like to the public, that isn't like you don't like to me. Let's say to the lay person,

I don't know what that means? Yeah, like is it is it great? And that no one gets jealous? Is it great? And that you are also connected with other people? Now? Is it? Like? Is it great? And that you guys haven't fought about the parameters? I think I think the thing the reason we're having this discussion in the first place is because the parameters aren't set in general for

everybody anyway. Is that people are just are just making up their own I will say that was the most difficult thing about being in the open relationship is agreeing on the rules. Yeah, I think it's I think I guess so then rather than say, like game it works for gay men, It's like it's got to be some It's got to be two people who are have like supreme have supremely master their security and communicating that to each other. Which is or the other thing is like

I think being a part of something together. I'm not saying that like in my life, I'm that I'm like so narrow that I'm like, you know, if Sean and I were like in by the way, you know, or like we're like off away and there's someone with that like doesn't have an Instagram, is so hot and wants us both equally, like yeah, let's do you know? Like I'm not that's that seems like the same someone and

a different way for sure. Um oh wait, okay, did you mention off off the mic, off the here that you had this stunt moment and tomorrow tomorrow you have an acting role in the and the wedding episode and I have a stunt double that I can't wait to meet. Okay, and you wrote that the wedding I read the episode. Yeah, amazing, incredible. Okay, so did you know that you were going to be performing the stunt of the role that No, they didn't. I read it at the table, but then they didn't

tell me till last week. And I'm so happy. I can't believe so much happens. This season is so fucking good. It felt so good. I've been writing on shows for the past few years now, and like writing on Search Party just such a dream to write on a show that I watched because I came in on the third season for the first time and just like be a part of like playing with the dolls of the story is just good and it's such a good there's such

good dolls. There's such good dolls. Charles and sv that create who created it, like just no, you know the world of the show and they know what they want and and that was like so special because I had been working in network where it's like there's like so much pressure and so many people telling you kind of what the story is that oftentimes it gets lost. You know. It's like the stories that way, that way, that way, and it's like what are we Why did we even

step on stage to tell the story? Um? But yeah, Charles and sv are perfect and the um Lily's in the room, Lily's having a baby really burns. I didn't know Lily was having a brushing through her belly and soon through somewhere. Oh wait, now I'm actually remembering vividly. Yes, I do know that she is truly the best, like the coolest, smartest. Yeah, very cool, very smart. Fun to be part of it, fun to be good. In the fourth episode, not right. First season, I just this is

such a weird thing to be obsessed over. But I just loved the promo art style. I love it. Where the first season was like hardy boys Nancy Drew, second season was hedgecock. I don't have to tell me. I just I can't wait for what? When is it premiere? When does it start? I don't know when. We don't know. I think I'm shooting, like I think they've got one more months left of shooting, because I remember last year

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Mary LB. So. I don't give away anything about the episode because I feel like I can't tell you what my character parent does. But I met Okay, So back in the day, when did you leave Canada? Oh like a long time? Okay? Cool? Um, so a little bit after that, when I guess it was like probably I was nineteen years old. I'm thirty three now, So that many years ago, I was the host of a kids show on y TV called in TV. Oh my God,

would you word what TV? Yeah? And it was three seasons of like running around North it was like amazing race buff for kids. And one episode they learned how to be stunt drivers stunts doubles, stunt doubles on Paramount Lot. And I met this lady Mary Alby. Wait so you might hear about then yes, do you guys do any editing of music? Because I feel like this would be like a good place for like the Mary I'll be moment, we'll cut that in. Okay, good and we're back. Tell

us more about Mary. Um, first, raise your expectations, because I'm getting nervous about how good the conversation was. Basically, we were having lunch and she taught me about like She's like, look, this is a crazy industry. You got to diversify your investments. You got she had an avocado farm and she invested in real estate. But I really, uh, you know, that stuck in my head and then I yeah, and then and then now she's fucking she's your stunt double.

No she's not. She is, No, just did not know. I think it was dun for you for tomorrow. I've been I was out till four in the morning, and I literally literally I know I met this woman in the eighties, like way back in what I met her in real life on the show. In real life. It's not now that I'm saying it. It's like not a good story, Like she didn't really she literally told me to buy an avocado farm. I didn't buy one. So it's not like it's like I anyway stunts, Oh my god,

I really wasn't that. Also, like I wasn't even invited on the show yet, and I was like Mary Alby. I don't even know if that's her real name. I mean, the thing about stunts is it's in It's like, have I ever done a stunt. I've only worked with stunt doubles on a stunt people on Broad City Because the people that I like, these two women who are fighting at this pop up sale where these stunt women in one I had this clamming in the face, but they were just catching like they know it's such a small

industry where everyone knows each other. Like think of like how incestuous people say comedy is, but it's like no, it's like scale it down even more. It's like that's and maybe if it's like the Olympics, they all have sex with each other just to add a little sex I think. I think about like all the Olympic athletes fucking and it really drives me. That's all I do. It's all I remember. I remember during London, um, someone told me, told me who it is, Like have you

heard about this this grinder? Just so many cart wheels in their sex grinder? What like in London there was this like grinder. Traffic was spiked in London at the Olympic village because all these athletes were sucking each other and there were so many gays, so many gay athletes just fucking. Okay, And that's all I've been able to think about. When the Olympics roll on, I'm like, oh, they're all bodies are It's so wild. Let's do a competition and then your listeners have to vote in which

is the best fucking moment of two Olympic athletes. I will start, Okay, Bradley walks up to the horse bar, he mounts it. He does a front and lands on Tatiana's lap. She is wearing a strap on that that's great. Okay, that's good. Should I go next and talk to you the real people that I should know about? Okay, told May.

Standing on the diving board, he is being watched by millions, So good he take He He crouches down sort of like sort of like a pop star and slowly runs his hands up his body and it's so central, and he rises up with his hands until he puts his hands above his head like a gymnast like this, and you just see his hands go pink like his little hands. They go down like when a gymnast lands, and they go. It's at this moment that someone comes up behind him.

It's Roland, and Roland kind of grabs him and like they Roland kisses his ear like and he starts to bite his ear a little bit, and millions are watching. They never jump in the water, and they just fuck on the board. They and they don't even penetrate. It's just raw sensuality, and it's so romantic that gays are accepted everything. I'm so jealous, I'm so embarrassed. About mine? Why did I do kind of sex that I've never been involved in? Why did I give shitty names? You've

just heard? Is my actual sexual fantasy just being watched by millions of people? And then song comes up behind me and bites my ear and like fucking whispers in my ear, and I'm like, I can't follow this. Yeah, that's really hard. You're a writer on these shows. Um, it's the opening ceremony. Oh god, the flags are being wheeled out and carried out. I should say, Um, you have Ding Ding in the Chinese delegation, the Chinese team.

Who is who is um a nineteen year old? He's also a gymnast, male gymnast, rippling muscles, hot hot stocky or like lean stocky stocky, dude stocky Dinging the Chinese gymnast got it. And by the way, like every every year, the Chinese male gymnasts are like in my book, like the hottest people. And then the whole fucking can I can I say? Can I say one more thing about line? Wait, I'm saying something about mine. If you see something finished,

Jesus Christ, unconscionable. Okay, so is gonna be so mad that Ing Ding Ding walks out with the flag and then three three three delegations ahead is Egypt and oh my god is named after the Egyptian singer Um. And he is, he's in the he's he's he's on the hockey team. This is a weird like winter summer, sort of like confusion and then love affair. And then Coultum runs back because he just sensed something, a sensuality pouring

out of ding Jing. And then they sixty nine while holding each other's flags, so so Dingjing standing like like wraps his legs around, his neck, slips around, goes down the sixty nine as they carry their flags. Mary all, he's gonna need to get off. Then Mary Albi is watching from home being like I should have I should have sold the farm. I should have been there, and then then and then and then uh millions. That's it's

the most watched moment in the entire and the entire operation. Right, but it's so so impressive but also so jarring the people. Uh the gays are put in jails. Everywhere has the opposite it has. Let me just col her my story about one more time. Of course, I forgot to say Toma and Roland each Thomas competing for Mexico and Roland is competing for America, and therefore it is a political statement. Is fuming okay? And Trump actually, when he sees this,

turns to sand got beautiful. He turns to sund Did you have anything? Yeah, that's gorgeous. I already thought of her as gorgeous. Describe her gender fluid, Yes, okay, No one cares about the bio. It's all steam on the face. Gorge She sounds essential. Real name is blanc Get the last name how Pegistani her? Yes, I say Tomas last name Roma? And what's Roland's last name? Williams Roll? Tatiana?

Tatiana's anonymously Ta Changings. Full name is went Dingjing because last names go first and China and Um and Kutum is kutum, which is a reversal of umkutum, which is in Egypt, is actually apt. She was like the Madonna of she was She was bigger than Madonna. She was like huge. She was like the biggest selling artist in like all of Africa and Europe. Like just what happened to her? Why haven't I she like she died in the fifties or the sixties, or so oh this she

was very very long. How do you know that I took a musicology his last culture? Maybe you've heard um, maybe you've heard. Wait, we have to ask Sabrina this question. Yes, we do, you ask it. Okay, So Sabrina, this is the question that we ask all of our guests when they rolled through UM, which is what was the culture

that made you say? Culture was for me, like the pop culture that you experienced as a youngster that made you kind of step into who you were, Like it's a movie, book, a show, a person that was like a celebrity, like a culture that you grew up with. What was the defining thing that you're like, Oh, that was kind of like what defined me. I've just been so nervous ever since you said, we asked this to

everybody is finally racing away from that, stepping forward. It could just be like a Canada, or it could be like just any big broad thing. Um, like seeing Ellen

degenerous to stand up amazing that was really big for you. Yeah, yeah, because she was and I didn't know that I was gay, And the first time you saw her, um, I knew she was like me and something, you know, like just seeing this woman be in her power and not be um like yeah, breaking out of whatever anyone was supposed to be like and just being so cool and fun and and then are you I'm curious, well not to like I'm curiously do you feel like Ellen has lived

up to that power like that now she's like a huge company And I don't think it's like a secret that like people say she's not that, which is but also like everybody can't be everything, like Sarah Silverman is also someone that I like love and admire. And then last week that quote that she said was like, I mean, no matter what was attached before and after the thing about like Luisinka masturbated in front of me, it's like

why why that? So it's like if you just keep on talking, I guess you will get caught up in some silliness. And yeah, I mean that's kind of what we always say, Like there's literally now hundreds of hours of us just talking, especially in the beginning, and we thought no one would listen to this. Yeah, well they'll get us, um, but yeah, there is that thing of like, Yeah, to Ellen's credit, I think like at least she's in

complete control of everything that she does. So you would never know because of something she does that she wasn't great. It's just like leaking people that I guess like have experiences with her. And I will say also, I think the people are always excited for a take on on an icon. You know, like every every single person she meets, they have a takeaway of like the time they met Ellen.

And she has like a hundred million and one business things to do in a day, So you can't be everything, you're, right, Yeah, And does she do more great than bad? For sure? Right, every day genuinely and generally has used her powers for good. And I guess that is the ultimate question that if you ask if you go to bed every night and you say, did I use my powers for good today? And yeah, you know what we're We're we've sort of

taken Ellen to task in very fun, facetious ways. No, I actually have a real problem with you, Like, like my my issue with Ellen is that I often think she gives problematic and sometimes maybe even dangerous celebrities platforms to kind of like look good. So I think that's something that's an issue that I personally have. The example that I cite is Matthew Fox from Lost he like punched a bus driver, a female bus driver. Yeah, it was like it was Matthew Fox was also on Party

of five. I didn't even know that about it. He apparently was like a little bit or maybe even a lot of bit abusive towards people. And I think that the very first talk show that he was that he went on was like Ellen Show and this is kind of before the whole era of like times at me to believe women being the kind of thing it is. But she didn't not give him a platform to be like, this isn't who this, this is, this can't possibly be true, when it like very much possibly could be true. And

there was footage of him. No, I don't know if that there was footage. I don't know about like what the specificity was. I know that his co stars from Lost also step forward and said he's an abuser, like came forward, and the way she framed the interview is very much like come on. It was like wait, this is we know this isn't you? So what happened? And then he was able to say his story. Meanwhile, like this woman that made the allegation, like I don't think

she was afforded the same opportunities definitely. Also, I guess you just like you, it is inevitable that you get your you lose touch with certain right aspects of being a regular person when you're famous for most of your life. And also, you know what, I don't know, Ellen, I just know, like that's that's like I don't I also don't know that it was entirely her decision to have

him on. I also find that she is usually the one to have like biberon or like I think, I don't know if she's had Kanye on lately, but I feel like it's just like you can always kind of count on her to, like I think, be an advocate for these extremely famous people that have problems, which is I think having to do with the fact that she

knows what it's like to be extremely famous and be scrutinized. However, or I don't always think these people deserve the kind of um retribution and repute, like that kind of platform to get retribution that she allows. Sometimes I think you call us spade a spade. The losing touch part is interesting. Oh, I was talking to someone about this um but very funny and influential and good totally UM. There's this thing.

This is fun weird trend now where it's like these actors turn directors are making these period coming of age movies right with like your Regretta Growiggs, Jenny Birds, your Jona mid nineties. Um even I guess bow, I guess it's not period, but bou Burden with eighth grade. It's like there's this It's like a new, weird, new fun sub genre. It seems like a trend. Um, it's a trend.

And then we were like what is that? And then Sandy Honigg was like, I think it's because and Sandy Sandy said that her brother Jake said this, it's like, um, it's like the reason they're making these period movies and that the were that are coming of ages because that was the last time that they were like not famous and normal. They're like, wait, I was normal back then. Let me make a movie about that. And at least, like that's better than like fully losing touches to like

create a touchdowne for that. But like I don't know, Yeah, I mean, your ellens are your ellens aren't going to be everything. But also I mean her standard back then was like amazing. She's revolutionary. Yeah, like deal lover. She's the Mary I'll be of comedy a lot of people. I also think that I also think Ellen could stunts. She could do stunts. Mary is the oh one other thing about stunts. Please let this be better than The Advocate. Please just a podcast where you say what your inner

monologue is about what you're thinking to say. Um, I hope the hosts like it is that When I was on in real life on what I also learned from her was that stunts, stunt people get paid, um like double or triple what actors get paid. And if you're ever on set and you're asked to do anything like and it doesn't have to act to be a stunt. If you're riding a horse, if you're like someone you know punches but misses you like it's not it doesn't have to be like a huge action thing, it qualifies

as stunt pay. And now looking back, it's actually something that I was like, was I on the right side of my own history on this? Because I found that out and then made my agent fight for stunt pay like every time I like lifted a back, like every time I did anything at all that And eventually one of the producers pulled me aside or the creator the show pulled me aside. He was like, you know when when your agent is talking to us about money, that

like it's actually a conversation between you and me. And I was like, yeah, but I'm doing it. I don't know what this is about. I actually wait, I'm not comfortable with this. Wait hold on actually had a stunty to me somewhere is this that this conversation seems like I should get paid stunt? But the whole show was like then you could always justify because we were like, you know, running around alligators and like just doing wild stuff. Oh my god, did you do? I was obsessed with

watched They liked it? They like that part, They like that part. Did you ever watch oh on my TV as a kid? With? I think? Did they invent that before? Nickelodeon didn't know? I don't know. I wonder are you saying are you attacking America by saying that Nickelodeon wasn't the first to bring Google? Absolutely? How do you feel about the new regime being like mad at Canada? It's just like a whole other layer of like, oh god, I'm brown, I'm gay, I'm an immigrant, and you hate Canada.

Do they hate Canada? They say that the beautiful Prime Minister is being unreasonable. They're just like, like, it's it's the fact that the US is antagonizing Canada is highly unusual. It's I mean, it's so weird. It's like someone having a problem with a partner, right having Like when she's in the green room, I'm not in there. Can you imagine? Um? I was going to say that. Um wait, now I'm thinking about fan pick of like Trudeau and Anthony, Oh Canadians.

That's so, those are two people who word for me. It's not even about viciality. I'd love to watch them like who's each other's ask? Okay, um, they're so hot. Also, Trudeau's butt is out of control. Have you seen his butt? It's like photo of his ass. It's like takeing me. I just wanted to say that, Um, Mary Albi is the tomorrow Tomorrow. I just want to say that. Tatiana after Bradley lands on her, by the way, the thing that he jumps off is one hundred miles tall, I

forgotten one hundred miles tall. Okay. She takes an avocado out of her butt, cracks it open like uses her nails to like slice around it, opens it and inside is the thick quack. The clock is already made. There's like it's made from the smashing from Bradley Landing. I forgot to say that tomorrow Mile looks like like a Latino version of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and um Roland Williams looks exactly like Anthony, in fact that in fact it is Anthony. I forgot to say that, Um that

Jing Jing also does. He is a gymnast after all, also does the one hundred miles Obama horse lands and does unfortunately die as most people would. But but Bradley lands perfectly on the strap on gets pegged and it doesn't know and question about my fat. Someone told me recently that they sat on a dick and came immediately, and I was like, I imagine that, Oh my god, imagine that in fact, good good and came immediately. I oh really, I whispered over the mic. I think it's time.

I think it might be time for I don't think so honey, is ever I don't think so honey. Okay, are you ready? I'm sucking ready? So I don't think so honey. Oh, by the way, are you going to be You're going to be in December. I already harassed you on Twitter and I want to be on the show. You are on the shop. Um, so you're booked. Me and Joel Kim Booster are going to host it together because boy will be working, working, working. Leave. You should leave a second. I could leave. You should stay in

your contract. When you want to go, you can go. And I want to come back, you can come back. And you're not staying all night with those fools and do stump pay? Excuse me, I'm doing some stunt writing and I'm feeling dangerous. Can someone put the money in my pocket? I'm not condorible with this conversation. I'm sun uh listen l A the region. It's just gonna be so much fun. Get your tickets now. It's downtown l A. I'm seething with jealousy. Today, November, we're doing one here

at the Bellhouse. That'll be fucking fun. Remembatory stix. We're doing Queers Live at pub Paperline Teeth. My birthday, My birthday just a little bit sooner six Selection dayDay. But I guess by the time this is over, by the time this is episode is released, we'll already have voted. Oh my god, that pit in my stomach feeling. We'll see. Okay, um, I actually have something. Um this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so many as time starts now, I

don't think so. Honey. When people are arguing on the subway and it gets physical, guys, it is never worth it. I don't care if you think you are right and this argument, just dispute whatever. Do not touch another person. And if someone is trying to come for you physically, you get up and you walk the funk away. Over the past month, I have seen so many people just like fucking do dick measuring contests, men and women alike. And it's just like you, guys, it is you're gonna

hurt someone else. Like that's the thing is. It's like if you're on the side of the subway, like when you're waiting for something to come and you start having a physical altercation and screaming, you make people nervous, like if you push someone, like the subways are crowded, like, seriously, put your dick away. Stop it. It is not worth it. I understand you might feel like in the wrong, but it's like when you're in the subway. That's the fucking wild West. That to me is like a place where

you do not mess around. If someone gets pushed onto the tracks, that's a fucking nightmare scenario. Do not be fighting on the subway. If it gets physical, you run the other way. That's one minute. I know this is happening.

So I've been witnessing it happened so many times recently where it's just like a stupid little fight, or like someone catches someone the wrong way where like they hear something like I was on the subway that it actually at the Fulton g stop and this woman like really started screaming at this other woman because um, she felt that she was a nasty or her son or like

like gave her son a weird look. And then it immediately, like two minutes into the conversation, of course, got like racial, and then it was like this weird thing where it was like I don't think this is gonna stop. And I actually ended up my subway came and I had driven away before um it got to there, but it got both of them started physically threatening each other, like it was like one of them got up and then she slammed the coffee out of the other ones hand,

so it did get physical. I was like, there's kids there, it's like you have to like stop. And also because it is a little bit about performing for people. I mean when you're fighting like that. And then she kept saying like I will do whatever it takes to to like protect my kids, and I'm like, you are not

protecting your kids. And then it was this whole other issue of like this woman is clearly unstable, and the other woman like didn't have any sense in her fucking brain because she wouldn't just get up and walk away. She just kept responding. And it's like someone's got to be the bigger person here, Like especially on the subway. It particularly bothers me there because it's like such like a weird, like a morphous situation, Like it's really dangerous

down there. I don't know, I really don't like physical, violent, like domestic e It's just like my whole body and my whole I can't get it out of my head. It's like just the idea of not feeling safe and just like what the least you can do is not fucking punch people and hurt people and make people unless it's a Nazi unless the Nazi and that you please be in the field. Please everybody, No fighting in the subway.

Fighting fighting in the subway. It's not worth it. Also, you're not going to see each other literally ever again, Like what are you getting? Only involving each other each other and you're each other's you're only involving the other person in your life forever. Don't be fighting in the subway. This is I don't think so, Honey, his time starts now. I don't think somebody this new trend of cord r being back in Yes, I'm looking at my blue Corter

I have. But also I got on the on the ground floor with this trend back in two thousand five when I bought a brown corduroy blazer and I felt like fucking Mark from Rent Bitch. I felt like I was so ahead of this trend, and now everyone wants to hop on this thing now that I invented. I should say I basically I sewed this hat together. I truly did, and I might as well have. I mean, it's not it's it's it's figured speaking. I don't know about this Cordarry thing. I know it's fall, but we're

grasping against straws. Here we still have not given flannel it's full moment. I think there's plenty to be explored in the area of flannels. And for people to start going crazy over cord over this rough, basically striped material is patently stupid to me, and I don't think. I don't fashion will look back, History will look back on this with a discerning eye, and we will not be looking back on what's one minute, So he's attacked something that he does. Um No, I'm wearing a corter right

hat as well. But I'm saying this trend now of other people of the late person wearing corter right No, no, no, this is for this is for the patricians. No, not for anyone else. That was true superiority, classism, classism, that you are classist, class um um. But everybody, I will say, you know who's a true flannel queen is me and I have not been wearing my flannel. And also ar gust Sabrina is wearing both. She's wearing flannel and fry. It's so thick, baby jelly. Which have you met study yet?

I feel like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, we met. I met when I met you guys at Charles's other party. Yes, she was beautiful. I feel like you guys, like that was a gorgeous meeting and you were not there. And now sometimes we're on in each other's instead. I like your picture. That's good. Wait, so we met and Sabrina, that wasn't one of them nights I danced the hardest in my life? Did you see me dancing that night?

I gave you the power to dance that night. Actually I chose one person to activate and it was you because she was hanging out with Lisa Trigger, and I said, oh, any friend of Tregger. Lisa Trigger is currently wheeling our son around set from that fucking high as the great such a good I love her, honestly, I love Lisa. That's a great auntie, so weird to just immediately call her. She's a great nanny. Nanny. She's a wonderful maid. She's

a wonderful maid. Nanny Tregar a professional comedian. I call her Nanny Tregar. There should be a movie called Nanny Tregger. It's such a lovely time, the four of us on that pool diogue and don't say the four of us when also Joel I was going to mention Joel as well. Joel is also there. I'm Sabrina. Are you ready? I am ready? This is Sabrina Jolisa's I don't think so.

Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. When I came on this podcast and then I immediately started talking about what celebrities were at the party, I felt pressure from you guys to say it immediately. I don't think so, honey. It doesn't make me look cool. It makes me look like a fool. No, I don't think so. Do you not think so about rhyming there? I don't

think so, honey. About any time that you get your mouth moving and then start too fast, and then you're like Bradley on that beam about to jump off, and you're going the gravity is pushing you down and you cannot stop yourself from the riff that you were on. But you do not commit, You don't feel committed to it. You immediately already want to be just the girl that was at the party, and not saying that be cool people were there, just that makes you part of the

cool people like you feel outside of the coolness. If you say that they were there, you could have just blended in people saw the photos on Instagram. I don't think so, honey, you didn't need to do that. And I don't think so honey. The way I feel right now vulnerable and that's but here's the thing. I think it was super cool that you were at an out page party. Page Body and Ellen Page Body is Oh my god, body on the page the page. She was

so good. An inception throws Mike, don't break And we should mention that Tessa Thompson was also at the party. But you're right about what if you didn't. I always feel included. I don't know because Canadian. Is it because I'm a cute little baby. I think it's because this is last we we we we are the culture that we get to the bottom of culture, and that part of that is finding out who was at the cool party. You're part of the culture now. You have to just

name the thing when you see it. You are on screen, you're behind the scenes, you were on the creams, you're on the deadline cream. Oh wait, I want to I want to ask one thing about Diablo and yours, shake Away what what? What can you tell us a little bit about what's going to be about? Absolutely not there you go, we can't. It's a multicam great, okay, it is uh kind of based on a couple like myself and my wife. What if the in laws bought the

house right next to you. It was everybody loves Raymond, but just like you know my life. What if I wanted the love of my father in law so much that he didn't want to open up? And what if the mother in law wanted the love of their daughter too much? And what if every time you got him home they were there and all the characters loved each other. They were broken, but they really just wanted the love of one another, but they just damn bought it in

the wrong way. Every time the act too drops, there's a lot of confusion and then act think everybody resolves a bit by necessary set every single week because you've got to have a show because you gotta be great. Sorry, it's sorry, sorry, shot, and it's gonna be great. We ended on a song we always you know what. It's because she got so wet for her own show that she slept right off. Interesting. Honestly, we can't pay you at all for this. That you were almost on the ground.

Hall just referenced my I don't think so, honey. I was bradly reference, well, this has been a fucking barrel as what a lovely, lovely time. I mean, listen, we talked to Coach, We talked um countries, we talked mulch. If you consider the baby rising out of the mull, yes, if you consider we talked bold and to hot Man. Oh my god. We'll look out for Sabrina on the upcoming Search Party season. Yes, please do also check out her Netflix comedy special to comedy Line. Now do my Instagram?

I like attention. You can. You can find her on the ground like Wilfe. Just hard. Just if you see a picture of Wilf, give that too hard taps and comment la la lu ba la. We love you some much. Now before we go, I just want to us all to go because top about Mary. Everyone going out of the circle and say the hottest celebrity. Yes, Freddy is starting with um uh Matthew Fox. What do you know that I lined up to see him at Canada's Wonderland.

Never mind Canada's Wonderland as a kid, No, I had seasons passed to Wonderland and that's where my theft really started. Uh were as a child. We need to get We'll get into this next time. Putting everything up my sleeves. Really, you were like a little pickpocket in Canada's Wonderland. There was no real police. It was. It was a utopia for theft, which is I'm don't steal anymore. I'm atty. Celebrity. Where where's my shirt? Jennifer Um, I can't be Hum

Hottest celebrity, Hottest? Can you do it for us? Scott Wolf? Um, hottest Celebrity. I'm gonna have to go with Ryan. There you go, Well look her up. Bye bye, guys. Forever This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get

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