H comedian and SNL legend Jay Farrow joins us on today's episode of Rewives. His wit and hilarious commentary make this one of the best rewives to date. Jay was so invested when I tell you, I love this guy. This is my new favorite guy. There are only a few people that I want to call back to do this. Jay could be my co host on this. He's so good, you just seek he's really thinking, Oh God, is he excellent? In this episode, the Beverly Hills Housewives are in Amsterdam.
Need I say more? Kim Richards and Lisa Rinna go at it. Chaos erupts, a wine glass was thrown. Kyle Richards storms out of the room, fleeing in a cape like fashion. This is the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Season five, episode sixteen, amster damn girl. All right, So I want to know your relationship to the housewife None, you know nothing, you know everything. You've dated someone who's watched like zero. You know. My mother is a big My mother is a fan of all the series. So
my mother watched it religiously. Um I only here, only here second hand the drama that's going on, however, um I did. I did get a chance to I did get a chance to see the episode clip and uh and yeah, y'all, it's a lot of drama. I like that. I think that's what that's what drives it. I think it was kind of a setup then putting everybody in Amsterdam with white wine. But you know, it's whatever you know, and um, well, we're gonna get into that because that's
part of the things you're dealing with the show. That's quote unquote a reality show. Years later after this, the franchise started. So in the beginning, there was some level of reality because we were naive. We didn't know what we were doing. We were wearing our own clothes, we were doing our own makeup, We didn't know any of the people, and we didn't understand the game. We didn't
understand the matrix. And we also hadn't been on for so long or not been on and watched other people do it for years, so you figure, what's gonna work, what's gonna rate? I mean, I wonder if there's anything like that about like your business and being a comedian or coming into something and with a preconceived notion and try to try to force it and and and make it happen versus just being who you are who you are.
I mean, I think SNL is a great example. I mean, you have to you're auditioning for your job every week, so it's like it's like you're pretty much throwing you don't know what you don't know what's gonna work until you hit the table and you're pretty much throwing um, throwing ship at the wall and saying what will stick. And you're like, okay, cool, well that what that work
is work. But once you get into the rhythm of it, you know what I mean, Once you once you start understanding all the different constituents and every thing, that's when you start politicking and getting that game up and kind of getting people to align with you so they can write for you, because if you don't have anybody in your corner, you're pretty much fizz al out with that place,
you know what I'm saying. Right, And in the beginning, there was a freedom for them, not really knowing where they were, what was going on, how long this would go on, that it was going to be an institution a phenomenon, so they could be more free. There weren't all these rules and all this like same competition, and you see it in some of the work of the old school stuff, right, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean, and uh, that place, it's just a and I don't know how
it is. I don't know how it is on set with y'all, but it's just a it's a competitive it's just super competitive all the time because you want your stuff to get on, you want to hit, but you also want to leave something substantive for people to for people to grasp onto and really follow you after you leave that show, because that's what you're doing it for. You don't do that. You you do that show too because it's the great it's uh, it's it's one of
the greatest shows ever created. In the greatest sketch show of all time. Um, I mean, and I'm just speaking through longevity terms, but after it's about the relationships that you cultivate on that show, um, and and and and and perpetuating man, after you get off, and that's what really solidifies your start. Like you got folks like Adam Sandler and uh who is it, Chris Rock and uh
Spade and and Will Well. I'm just saying, I'm like, well, the guys that kind of work together well you know, oh, sorry, you know what? I yeah, I do. Oh the relationships that that's such a great point, but also the credibility because you just sort of alluded to like the low
hanging fruit. You could go in and do the thing you know is going to get the laugh, but you're trying to also do work like you could take the commercial movie that you know they're going to get the laugh, but you want to do work that you're proud of. So there's you're balancing all these different things at the same time. Absolutely, I was at m y U and I got an internship at s n L. I knew uh, I knew one of the one of like an executive producer. And I got a job at SNL for the summer.
But n why you wouldn't give me credit? And I said, I don't care, I'll do it anyway. But SNL wouldn't let me do it unless the college was giving me credit. And I wasn't the person that I am today that would have just like figured out wherever the dean's offices and walked in and I didn't do it. And it's one it's probably one of maybe only two only regrets in my whole life was not doing that. So I have always regretted that because just to be in that
environment and experience that, that's always been a regret. So just instead I got I was a p a on saved by the bell. It doesn't feel exactly the same, I mean, but that's was saved by the bell was topping though, So that's not a bad uh. That a bad swap right there, exactly. And I and to your point, I just interviewed Mario Lopez, who I know, so that's funny, did you uh was a Tiffany And I used to have the biggest crush on Tiffany and with fists and back in the day, I just thought that she was
just so kelly. She was just so pretty Jess because she was kind of I don't know what was that word. She kind of gave me weirdo vibes. And also she hated that they let Tiffany where all the good sexy clothes, and she was sort of like the feminist. She hated that she was a smart feminist and in real life she was more sort of serious in that way too. I think did you um you mentioned that there's a lot of competition on SNL, but we're gonna get to
the housewives. But is it also off meaning like because with the Housewives, everybody pretends they're super chummy, and even if they are chummy off camera, if someone gets something someone else doesn't get, everybody's alert like why would they get that commercial that I didn't get? Or why did that person host it today's show? And and so you got to kind of keep your cards close to the vest because everybody know is there in a fifteen minute window and they want to just get theirs and and
it's it's it's really competitive. I feel like I feel like, uh, yeah, it is. It is competitive off the show, but more like more like you'll think it to yourself, you'd be like, wait a second, why does how do they get what? What agency they? And I don't got that right? Right? You do? Wait? A a verizing commercial and a piece of commercial people doing on this side you know what. But it's but it's more like me personally when I see when I see my folks who are on the show,
uh doing whatever, I root for them. I'm like, yo, that's dope. Like it's never it's never, like, man, you forget that some now if I am if I get a little disgrunted and a little and a little uh flustered and mad about it. It's not to them, it's to my team. I'm like, listen, what what are y'all doing that? The work is out there. You see, my friend got this commercial. They got this commercial. They're doing this, like said, I can at least end up on Nissan.
What do we know? Yeah, you know what, not Horizon, you could get Nissan. That's hysterical. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, I'm just I got it. So all right, So we'll get to Amsterdam. So let me do you know who any of these people are in the world? Like before You're like, oh, I've seen that person, I've heard about that person. Any knowledge? Yeah yeah, yeah. When I see the face, I'm like, okay, cool, I've seen
this person in this before or whatever. But uh, as far as just like knowing the intricacies of everything, hell no, okay, okay, So I just wanted to know where starting okay. So um. Lisa Rinna used to be a soap ap soap opera actress and she kind of like dwindled in her career and then she was on Dancing with the Stars, and then she ended up being on the house I was in. It's funny because Cohen, who produces the shows and is host watch What Happens Live, he didn't initially want her
to be a housewife. She's now not on the show anymore currently, but um, at that point, she's like the beginning of her tenure kind of. But she always brought the drama, so we find out in this episode. And I know, I think her husband doesn't drink, and I do think she tells us that she lost her sister to an overdose, so it seems like she is very
sensitive to addiction. Do you have any You don't have to say who it is, but do you have any frame of reference for addiction in your own life, like when you thought somebody was not doing something and then you found out they were, or being the addiction cop where you're trying to catch them, or any of that stuff.
I know, well, yeah I have. I've got somebody in my family right now it's very heavily addicted to alcohol and they keep and they can't get themselves out of it, and you know they'll they'll hit me up and keep asking me like I got the weirdest, the weirdest message from this person the other day and it just said, a bro, how much for BT? I was like, what, Like, I didn't, I couldn't even I didn't understand. Would say, what does he mean? Like this is he saying like
a ticket? Like but he was drunk what he wrote it? So it is a constant underlying problem the rest of us. Everybody has their problems, okay, but when it's something that, when it's something that's affecting family time, where you know, now they can't make it too. Okay. I was down there in Virginia and Virginia Beach, my hometown, and I was doing the show, and all my family came out except for these few people because one of them is addicted, and the rest of the family was trying to help
and find this person. They didn't even make it to my show. It becomes the whole family's problem in the hiding of it. Okay. So you're seeing a little of that here with Kim and Kyle, who are sisters, both child actresses, and Kim has suffered with addiction for a long time. The thing that I think is interesting is
I don't remember how the audience really took it. But sometimes now in going back to watch these old episodes, I see things differently than when I was watching it on television then, and I felt that, yes, Lisa Rinna seems to have a sensitivity about this topic, and she's on a show with this person, but this isn't her friend. So now she's going around and talking to everybody about this topic except the person directly and effectively, she's talking
to us. So I understand why she would be sensitive about addiction and it would trigger her, but I don't understand why she would try to I don't think it holds water that she's running around to talk to all these other people about someone who she's not even really
good friends with, feigning concern. And I also do understand the person who is the addict, even if they are falling off, they're also on a television show, so now they are aware, acutely aware that this has been discussed with not only every member on the cast, but the United States of America and other countries. So that's nice
sort of thing that I think. Uh So, you think it was like it was a it was a slight It was a slight shading that a slight shading that was realized, and it's kind of like it's kind of like when your grandmother said something to you, Like everybody in the family knows has been talking about it. You know, they've been talking about it. They've been sitting there, They've been sitting there chatting about it the whole time. Yes, I have alopecia, that's cool. But you ain't gonna tell
the whole Godday Church about the ship. You know what I'm saying. You gotta sit there and there. It's the same thing. I think it's the same thing with the situation when somebody is indirectly speaking to you, and yes, if you were there, you will get You will get very super agitated about it because it's it's your business. You don't want your business spread around like, uh, what
am I spread around? Like make the stallions but cheeks you don't want that, you understand, right, But live and direct you would have more respect for and at least be able to address, like come to me directly. You may get into an argument. You can't say, she's not going to be defensive, but at least it's like live and direct. Let's not pretend you're so concerned about me when we're not great friends anyway, but you're going around
telling everybody and the audience. I think about the fourth wall a lot now having the show having been part of the experience, because the audience just thinks, you know, this is all quote unquote totally real, and the cast has a responsibility by the way, to the producers and the show to air everything. Does that make any sense? So somebody has to say it, and the producers are telling somebody to say it, so at least as the messenger, I think, Look, I like I like the I like
the truth that you have with your personality. Of course, being for the North, you know, people don't people don't be as But even though, like even when people came up to you and they were like, yo, I heard you, Like yo, I heard you. So did you say this about me? Like yeah, I think you know it all. You're like, well, maybe I know it all. Like come some of this knowledge, I said, oh, ship like she stops when they try to come for you and you have that yeah. Well, you know, as a comedian sometimes
that's a gift, that's an improv scene. That's like you gave me something. Now I'm gonna take it to the next level, you know what I mean? You call me a know it all. That's not an easy one to get out of. Nobody likes to know it all. No, no, but if you do, if you know it all, you like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's funny. So yeah, all right, so you're on that argument, you're even though Lisa has experience of addiction, what where do you sway? Where are you? Like?
Where's your a lot allegiance? There? Who someone wins a point? Who's getting that point? Um? I think, like I said, I like just because just because like I don't, I don't think it's cool to like just spread business say everybody, but that's what this show does. That's what I think that. I definitely think that, Um that that that Kim was cool.
I think I think she was justified by like standing her position and and and being like yo, man, like yo, if you want to like, yes, I was addicted whatever. I think that. I think that that Lisa definitely could have been more direct. And if she was direct, I would have had more respect. But if your studo talking about somebody like that sneakness and like that's you subtweeting, I don't like, we don't like sub tweets right at me? Dog don't just yes, I never heard that subtweets. That's
a pussy move. Yeah, okay, exactly, that's the punk move in front of my face. I'm that girl, I'm I'm not. I don't even know what a subtweet is. But a loser, Yeah totally, okay, I got it. But now what about people who immediately take the bait? And Lisa says, I've suffered with addiction. That's a great that's also he's been the one on this series who has said many different
things emotional issues. She's blamed her mother's death like she blames a lot of different things, post traumatic stress disorder for she. Lisa n is known to blame, be very dramatic about to like package her reason for doing things instead of just owning the thing that she did. And she her thing is own it. She always as owning. So, but I believe that the person who's right can make themselves wrong. And what about Kim now saying you did this,
and now let's talk about your family. Don't make me bring up your family, which is like a threat and effectively telling everyone that there's a secret or something with Lisa's family. Now that's now, that's not right either, that's not right either it's the same. It seems like they have they have they have kind of a similar similar tactics.
Like at the end of the day, it's like, Okay, Lisa wasn't right, Lisa's not right for um, for Toronto addressing and making it this grand thing about herself when it's really when it's really not about her, when it's really about Kim. She shouldn't have done that. But at the same time, Um, at the same time, Kim shouldn't have Kim shouldn't have been like I got something, I'm gonna let out the bag and trying to get like
that's not like two roles don't make it right. Somebody had to be the bigger person at that time, and she could have been. Kim definitely could have been a bigger person. Have been like, listen, I don't respect you talking about whatever is going on with with with my life and I am not gonna give out information about yours. You know me, I know you. Let's keep it like that like we should. She could have done that, but
she didn't want to do that. She did bait, she did kind of she did take the bait, she took the shock bait, she took the shop. You're good at this. I want to let you know something because I've had people on here who watched the show, like Elizabeth Moss who's obsessed, and I've had people who have never watched it, and you're as good as both, Like, like, you're very good at that. I can't explain it, You're just like you're you're good at this. It's interesting, I think because
my mother is a no fis type. My mother is the best time Brooklyn, you know, so I've got I've got that half in me. Meanwhile, my father, my father is from Dorfork, Virginia, you know what I mean. They jokes and all of that. But my mother she's like straight to the point, she's really analytical. So she's like listen, She's she's always told us that, like that's the moral
code that we have had as as as children. She's like, listen, keep things lucid as possible, don't lie, keep it real, straight up, be straight honestly, don't be don't be pussified, don't do that. There is a there is a certain respect level for people who would keep it all the way a hundred with you, even if what they're saying to you is it the most consumable thing. Thank you. That's my entire what you just said is my entire existence. And it's not always popular, but you're at least you
know what time it is. If I exactly. If you don't like me, that's cool. If you don't like me, that's cool. But if you if you're acting a portraying a different face than I know than this this sheep, this wolves, and the this thieves in the temple, yes, facts, and I'd rather know the thieves. I'd rather know the thieves than call the people who are my friends. I mean, call the people who are thieves my friends. And I
don't even know. And now I'm in a situation, right, Okay, So I'm gonna give you a little subtext about two of the characters. Kyle's the one who flees with like a cape. Kim is her sister, the one who has struggled with addiction. There's a third, Kathy Hilton, who's currently a cast member. But I used to work for Kathy as an assistant parent drive Paris and Nikki too and from school beating nanny for them. I was best friends with Kyle, and I've always known Kim, so I know
the bts of this situation. And I'm also watching this with you and as a fan, and I'm also on The Housewives, so I have institutional knowledge on this trio.
So at this table, and I guess there were other scenes in the season, Kim is saying, Kyle, you aren't getting my back, and I don't really always understand what gaslighting means, but I feel like she's kind of throwing fire at Kyle because Kyle is, yes, her sister, but when you took on the role to be on the show as a cast member, we all kind of have to like also fight for ourselves and be good cast members. Like she has to be honest about how she really feels.
She can't like in secret say to Kim, what the funk are you doing and then on camera act like it's okay, so um, and it's not because I like Kyle, which I do. I'm giving her a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. But Kim is saying, you never defend me, and I don't see him really Kyle really defending Kim, And I wonder, as a sibling, what do you think about that? Should Kyle be defending Kim on some level? Ah Uh? Let's see you. I feel like I feel like, um, huh, I mean your family business.
I feel like you're I feel like your family business is your family business, right, Okay, if it's if it is known to a wider if it is known to wider people, yes, if it's something that if it's something that really hurts that person it's hard for them to talk about or whatever, I feel like you should definitely have that person's back. If if they're just like, um, if they're free with it, whatever, it's just like, yeah, this happened, this is all good, it's all straight. Bam.
I got so hold on. So let me tell you exactly what it is. Earlier in this series. I don't think it's this season, but maybe two seasons before. Kyle said to Kim in the car, like my husband supported you and you and Kim said to Kyle, you stole my house, like Kyle said, you're an alcoholic Kim, and like she feels like she's been covering up her situation, and through this series, Kyle's had to kind of hold that while she's on a reality show that they both
decided to do. So. Now fast forward now and Kim, sister, Kyle, you don't defend me, and Kathy would have been a real sister Kathy Hilton. So now we are in sensitive territory. And actually I haven't said this, and I am friends with Kyle, but I have to be objective. I think when someone has been talking to a bunch of people about someone's addiction, even though it's sort of out, it's
not a fun time. Kyle should have been like, guys, if you want to talk about her addiction, go to her or go to me, but this is not something
to take to so Kyle. Maybe Kim's right that Kyle should have defended her on some level that we would have seen right when it's yeah, when it's when it's massive, when it's a whole bunch of people, if it's a if it's a few folks, if it's not a whole collective of folks around there, and y'all, just I feel like, I feel like you can handle there's certain things that just don't need to be brought up to the mass, to a mass group. That's what I think personally, I mean,
and I see I see that all the time. I mean even even in my life. And I'm not gonna say who the people are but we had a family. We had a family. Uh, we had a family, uh Christmas or whatever, and there was there was things said from something from from a couple they were talking, but it seemed like they always did it in front of people. One of them. One of them always did it in front of people, the other one. They were like, why
are you trying to bring this up? Why are you trying to bring this up right now in front of other people? I think those If you have any type of bickering with somebody and it's personal, I think that should be personally handled. I don't think it needs to be I don't think it needs to be out into the mass if it is. Well, yes, if my sister had a problem and everybody was talking about it was at a party, I would defend her. I would have
to defend her. That's my sister. And listen, Kim has pulled focus in that family for years and been dramatic and the victim and all that, and I know that from firsthand. But I think I would say Kyle should not play Switzerland in that case. Just say something. You don't have to be full. Yeah, okay, so we agree on that, and then let's pretend that there is a skelet in Lisa's closet. I don't know, but she has a serious reaction throwing a glass at a dinner table,
Like is that physical? Where are you on what that is? Like? What if that happened on Saturday Night Live? But not in a scene? Hey, yeah, that's the sault. You can you can't throw something heavier. You can't throw something that's a pound at me. That's okay. So does Bravo have a responsibility to bench Lisa in some way? Like there should there be like work human resources because now people get in serious trouble for ship. Back then it was a wild, wild West. Now do I think this should?
This should definitely be a quality asolute should be equality on both sides as far as as far as suspension goes, and if it is, if it is for the folks of a different community, it should be the same on the other side. Um, I don't know the producers thought, I don't I don't know that. I don't know the producers, But I do think that a quality equality on both
sides would be the best. Uh it just even if other people would hear, even if people want to come on the show hearing that you have the type of etiquette where you where you don't choose the side and you don't treat somebody different. That could that can in turn make somebody be like, Okay, I want to sign up for this, I want to do this, or if this, I'm not going to do that because I actually want to think about this. So Teresa, I think attacked somebody
or Andy at a reunion. Then didn't Porsche attack someone at a reunion? And then I think she was like bench So anyway, we'll get to that later. But that's an interesting thing because there have been a lot there's a lot of discussion, and race has been a different conversation. Let's talk about this now. It was already unfair. It's already unfair. Why is it unfair? You got folks, you got more than five white wives together in a place with white wine. Not okay, when it's red wine, it's
a fine time. When it's white they ready to fight. That's what happened. Okay. The white wine is critical, Okay, white white wine is critical. And it's Amsterdam. People could have been you know, it's amsterdamn baby, somebody could have been on some shrooms. You don't know what people doing. Yeah, we're getting to that bullshit too. If they have never left the womb with the pot. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Al right, so three different things right now, then we're gonna get
into the pot. Den So chemist Kyle's saying like that she's always taken this abuse from Kim, meaning like Kim is gonna say you're a terrible sister and all that, and that this is like a repet know, a repetitious cycle. Here's what's interesting. Kim brings up her kids and then she's gone through hell with her kids because of this addiction. Now, I don't there's two ways to look at this. Number One, this coming out and being circulated, Yes, will present a
problem for her and her kids. I bet you if this is coming out, it's probably based in some truth. I don't remember the earlier episodes, but I don't think that this was based on just a lot like a fantasy. I think that she probably was off the wagon. And the thing of it is, there's two ways to look One, Yes, it affects her kids because now it's being on earth
to maybe she did fall off too. If you don't want your kids to be embarrassed, you do not go on a reality show, like you don't say I'm gonna bring up your ship from your family, you get a drink thrown on you, and then you worry about the fact of what your kids are going to think about your addiction being brought up. I think that's a reach. What do you think? I mean, Yeah, come on, it's it's it's it is reality television at the end of the day, and the juicy, the juiciness gets the ratings.
So it's like, it's yeah, you're setting you are setting yourself up for failure. If you say I don't want I don't want this talked about on a national platform that incites drama and also bickering, I don't you are asking yourself you are setting yourself up for failure. So I do. I do agree with you, and I do
think that that is a reach. Refany you're calling bullshit because anything that one would do on this show that would generate good ratings is something that your child is probably not going to be proud of because it's not going to be getting you know, being the poet Laurea. I mean, it's gonna you know what I mean, It's
gonna be something that's not fun. Yeah, I listen. An example would be, I mean, I hate to skip talking about other reality shows, but if you watch something like Loving Hip Hop or whatever, the craziest stuff, Joscela Hernandez walking in calling Mimi fast mommy, uh Molly made and uh walking out with some sexy lingerie and she didn't already she that she's been sleeping with her man Stevie j and all of that. You and they have a daughter,
they have a daughter. It there's nothing she can do about, right. It's it's it's it's literal, and I don't want to say, I mean, okay, it's a rodeo. It's a rodeo show. That's what it is. Yeah, and the most the most uh accentuated, freaking uh, the most uh out there a thing that could happen, Like you're saying, it's gonna get the ratings and it's gonna keep people watching. And ultimately, even though it's bad, they say, there's no such thing
as bad press. If they're talking about you, they're talking about you. It's gotten more like that. I used to not believe that, but it actually has gotten more like it doesn't matter because there's some other garbage is gonna be dumped on the pile tomorrow. That'll make your pile smell less like shit. It's so true. I don't that because I hate I like a clean record for the most part. But everybody gets Nobody gets out without paying the bill. Nobody gets out without me in the bill.
So all right, So now we get to the Bulldog, which was a lot of bullshit. So Brandy is the one. She used to be married to Eddie schibrian Um he cheated on her with Leanne rhymes very public divorce. But I agreed with her here because she's the one looking around and every everyone's acting like they literally they came out of their their the womb that day, like oh marijuana, Oh whoa, you're you going to try some? That would be so interesting and edgy, Like it's weird, Like you
guys came here. It's we it's weird, it's spot it's before it was legalized in some places. But okay, and also and then like Kim didn't come. I think that's a smart idea to not come. You know, years ago I ate two space cakes and because I thought it wasn't gonna work, which is what I was told. You're gonna be I think it's not gonna work, and you get to another I was tripping in a train station.
I couldn't move. I was debilitated. Can I add to that? Um, Listen when they tell you, when they when they tell you that this will put you on your ass, believe them put you on your ass. I had this thing called a stop like cookie. And when I was in uh, I think I was in uh. What was I? I was at Tommy Tease and it was northern California, not sure if it was it was near Oakland. It was definitely Yelting's right there near Oakland. Y'all. This little it was like this big. It was this big. It looks
like a butterfly. Anybody, everybody scared of no butterfly. This's a butterfly. Son. I've seen butterflies all my life. I've watched read and rain Rainbow. Get the hell out of here, you know. So I'm like, I'm gonna do this. It's gonna be cool. I took the whole thing, big mistake, and it took a while to kick in, and you got fucked for two days. Yes, it's like it didn't It stayed in my body like it didn't want to leave.
And the worst part about it is at the height of the high, I felt like there was a ghost in my bedroom taking advantage of me. Because, when I tell you, it was as if Moses had taken his staffs and put it on the top of my butt cheeks. And then the butt cheeks spread like this, and I didn't know what like a butterfly. Like a butterfly. It butterfly my booty. I swimp the lord just like shrimp, you shrimp get butterfly happened, but if nothing came out luckily.
But I was scared. I was scared. I was suspicious. I was suspicious. That's okay. So that last week and I posted about this last week, a company that wanted me to try their products. People send me food products and beauty products because I do these reviews sent me quote unquote cb D gummies and that's what it says on the thing. And you know those stupid gummies that are like I or in her vitamin seeing their candy
melatonin gonse, it's candy near my bed. Yeah so so so I so I ate two because I thought of serving is always two to three. I'll take two tiny little squares, very small, tiny little squares, not even like a chick lit like a third of a chicklet. So it took two and they gave me a CBD oil, and I think CBDs bullshit because I'm like, it's like sort of just like relax oil, like I'm not gonna know if it works, doesn't work. Let's pretend it works. Who cares? Just like something like I don't know if
it's working. So I take some of the oil so it does not say anything about th HC on the package. So a couple of like an hour and a half later, I'm talking to fiance. I'm on the couch and I said, I was talking about how I slept that night before I go it's weird of I feel like I'm sleeping now like a zombie. And I started to feel like these waves and it felt like I was like in a cloud. And then my friend looked on the website and she was like, that has these all the things
you take have full spectrum th HC with CBD. And to your point, I was high for two and a half days, like I couldn't get off. I finally came, but then I was exhausted and had a film on me, like like a food roll up. You had to peel off the paper. It was a nightmare. So that's what those things are like in Amsterdam. It's not a joke and you don't know how it's gonna hit, so you have to enter quietly. Right, But but it Chay is not if you're just smoking a chain, that's not gonna
that's It just depends on. It depends on, like if it's all right, if it's like forty plus th c, all right, cool, you don't get messed up and you know how to hit that. But if you just have like a little fun that come on there, Oh my god, I'm smoking weed. Yeah it's Amsterdam. Yeah, right, So you agree with Brandy when she's like calling bullshit on everybody who's pretending they have never smoked pot before, and she
smoked pot with them. But Kyle brings a good card to the table, just like Kim brought the kid card. Kyle brings the kid card saying it's a parenting choice because she doesn't want her kids to see her smoking pot on television. And I don't know that's a line, like I think that might be. I think it's kind of bullshit. But it's a good line, and I also think it's partially true. That's a bar. That's I mean,
that's definitely a bar. And it's like you you want to keep your you want to keep whatever, whatever you're doing that is considered taboo, whatever. You just want to keep that away from your You do want to keep that away from your children. So I definitely, I definitely do agree with her when she says that. But at the same time, still it's weed. It's not as like you're saying the world has changed and that was that was back then, um, and it was considered a little
more taboo to or whatever. But at the same time, now it's like looking back at it now, would it be like, oh, it's not it's not that big of a deal. A matter of fact, you probably look cooler if you if you smoke something, right. Um, However, this show is like a quilt or like a web, you know, you see those like hammocks that have those like unique not like that like netting. And now you are fast forwarding and you're in Amsterdam and you're pretending like you
don't smoke pot with that same person. The boomerang is gonna come back and smack you. It's right, and it's like it's Amsterdam. It's a like like we were just talking about everything in moderation. You're not gonna go. You're there for like a couple of days. It's like, have have fun, you know, do have fun, have fun, don't. I don't know if she was doing I don't know what she was doing in the badood. She was in
the bathroom doing some ship. Obviously that's you know, obviously, that's that's that's a that's that's no candy, yeah or whatever what exactly. But now we're gonna be holier than now and decide what we think is okay and what we think isn't okay. Like and it's not okay because one's illegal. One's legal in some places. But Brandy as kids too. So let's pretend Grant Brandy was doing something
recreation you call it. I'm just saying, this show means you're not allowed to pull up those cards because it's all coming out and you just gotta keep your nose completely clean. And if you go walk into here's what it is, you're going on a trip to Amsterdam. If you're walking into the pot den you started in with your kids already, so it's it's fair game. We walked I just thought of this. Now we walked into the pot Den. You walk in into the front row at
a comedy show, you're gonna get heckled. You don't want to get heckled. Don't walk in there, and don't sit in the front row. Like so, if you're walking into the Bulldog, someone might say something about smoking pot, and I guess I'm retracting my statement. I don't think it is a parenting choice because you had to make the parenting choice before you walked in the pot den. Okay, okay, under sound, I'm saying, we're on a television show walking
into a space cake pot den. If my kids may find out I've smoked pot before, it's and it's again, it's and it's and it is Amsterdam. In fact, you went to Amsterdam. If you're yeah, I'm not going to Amsterdam because my yeah, and then the producers will say, hey, we'll just don't go to the place you smoke. They have a lot of nice things in Amsterdam. You're in Gary, Indiana. There's a time and a place. There's a time and a place for everything. And whereas if it is if
it is in a place that's known for whatever. Okay, you showed up, you knew what you were getting. It was in the brochure. In fact, who are these characters? Do you identify with the most? For better or for worse? Who do I identify with the most? Man? Uh? I don't even god day, I don't even know that. Who's who's the most authentic person? Who's the most authentive person on the show? Is it? Uh? Ironically, it could be.
It could be Brandy the one who's because I was thinking, I'm a little Brandy and a little Kyle like she it's not it can be abrasive, but she was like, are we gonna be bullshit now? But you know, maybe in this episode Brandy, who seemed fairly sane, I think I think I identified with Brandy and hey, identify a little bit, just a little bit, a little bit with Kim.
And I will say this is because I've had to kick addictions of the minor ship whatever, minor ship whatever, but still having that pain and having and knowing what that is and knowing what it takes to get over that, and knowing the mental strenuity that it strenu that it causes to be able to go to that place. I I applaud that. So I'm a little I'm a little bit of her. I'm a little bit. I'm definitely a
little bit of that. Okay. And then the last question is, well, two more who the rose and the thorn of the episode? The part you like the best in the part you like the least the heart I liked the best the part I like the leash. I like Kim correcting Lisa. That's what I like him correcting Lisa. I didn't like. I like when it escalated past that and somebody through and and and the glass bottle, the wine glass got thrown. I needed that. I just okay, I'm going back. I've
had I've had a cup thrown at me before. Not fun, you know what I'm saying. I dodged that bitch, you know it missed, but it was still dangerous. So I always I can always think back to that part and be like, yo, sir, if that yo you would have got hit, you would have had some stitches, it have been some problems. I don't like broken glass. I don't like I only thinking about my Fu hates broken glass
of freaks him out. Anything that broken glass freaks him out. Yeah, all the little pieces, and I've I've had another moment when my mother, God bless her, God bless my mom. Man, she's such a she's such a sweetheart. I love it to death. And like I said, she she watches religiously whatever. Um but she put glass broken glass, she had broken. It was broken wine glass. She put it in the trash can. She covered it up with plastic. And you know, when I was growing up, it was my duty to
take the trash shot. But if I would see that it was just a little bit up, I would try to push it down. I pushed it, yep, and it cut my finger almost although I'm not flicking you off, almost all the way to the tendon. I see it. That's crazy that you have like a personal story attached to when that glass got broken in this episode. That's insane, I see it. Yeah, that's oh you remember, like it was yesterday. Yeah, So my mother she felt so bad. She felt so bad. She was like, I'm so sorry.
It missed the tendon by literally a centimeter. Oh my god, that's a crazy Wow. That is such a crazy story. And that's so weird that this was the episode that we gave you that's crazy. Actually, my I don't know. I kind of liked I'm a call bullshit person. I kind of liked at the end Brandy being like, because I've seen Brandy listen, Brandy is definitely taught, you know, challenging and can be a little abrasive and crass. But she was like, everyone gets to to be you know,
talk about everything I do. But now I can't call anybody else's bullshit out. So I did like that, And um, I was a little bored by the actual reason for the trip itself, Like Yolanda is lovely and nice. I understand why she's not on the show anymore because it's all a little too lovely and nice is a little boring, do you know what I mean? Like for me, yeah, there was no zip, but like this was the zip. And then my last and final question for you was who won the night? Who did one a night? Damn No?
I think he no. The person okay, the person who walks out loses? Ah, Hyle lost. Kyle lost for like fleeing, Okay, she lost her flea Okay, I would say I would say Lisa lost because Lisa wasn't Lisa lost because she wasn't straightforward and chose violence and chose violence, So I would say that I would say, I would say the loser. I would say the loses. Oh god, Dad, they're both loses. Kyle Flett lost. Kyle lost. Um Lisa chose violence and talked around the school, so she lost too. Who won?
I think you think Kim I agree. I actually think him one too. And it's weird because I don't know if back then Kim one because the audience is on the ride. But as an older, wiser parent, which I wasn't, then I think Kim one too. I mean, I do not think she's perfect at all, but I think she was. You can never give the winning card to like people who don't who play under the radar, like the other woman Eileen, who's a soap back, just was like I don't like you. She's like, I don't like it. Those
are filler characters to me. Those are like cock between the tiles. There's always a couple of those in that are just like talking and I'm not even bringing up what they're saying because they're not really taking the shots, you know what I mean. There's people in comedy too. I'm sure some people are just like filler, same thing. They're not on the front lines. It's not the it's the people who go for it, yes and take and
lose the biggest two. It's true. But if you if you hit, when you take that risk, yes it's it's worth it. Thank you, thank you. And I learned that years ago when I was only apprentice, because you could always tell the people each task that would try to take, like the third from the bottom job that like you wouldn't get noticed, so you'd be enough under the radar.
You could pretend you were doing a little and those were always losers like I was always you know, just like right on the front taking hits, getting in because yeah, so the characters on the show, I can't give a winning just because someone didn't say anything rude if they were boring. So those are the filler. Yeah, So it's
like that in comedy. Too interesting you are I would love I mean, I'm going to probably call you another time to do another one, like you're doing really fun and you like really get into the analysis, which I love and now I know you, so I like that too, like I get to know you. Maybe I'm gonna get to meet your mom sometime. Hell yeah, and she I'm telling you, Ramona Farrow is a religious Housewives like she watches every every series she watches it. She's just and
she's still She's adorable. She has surgery back in two thousand and one, and um, she got like she would watch her soap operas because she couldn't go to work. And what I mean, and I was at the time, I was, I was in eighth grade and I was, I was helping get out whatever. But um, she started recording her soap operas back in two thousand and what she still does it today. Straight, she has recorded it and she and she loves reality television and the Housewives
like every every series. She loved himself. Um, you're so wonderful, what a great energy like you didn't you know, I just really loved this with you so nice to me. I can't say that enough. Let's Bethany, let's do this again. We have fabulous. You put me in such a good mood today. Yeah,