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ReWives ReRant: Public Privacy

Dec 08, 202315 minSeason 1Ep. 145
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Bethenny discusses the private lives of the Real Housewives. What’s for the show and what isn’t…and how does that line get drawn? Bethenny reveals personal experiences to examine the debate. Plus, booze issues, production staff issues and who’s in and who’s out of the Housewives Bubble? 

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The real Blouzewives. So between a Hulu Nightline special, Rolling Stone, and The Collider, there's an onslaught of articles that are crystallizing and combining the stories of alcohol abuse being highlighted on television and downfalls on real Housewives. And if you think about it, I think it's been reported that there are like one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five housewives, so I personally think at least ten that have had a brush with the law, a dui,

been arrested, blacked out, something that really was drastic. So allegedly at at least five to ten percent of housewives have relapsed or had some stressful experience culminating in the abuse of alcohol. Do we honestly believe that these ten to twenty women would have had this same heightened peak

and crash with a not on reality television. I can personally tell you that I know of at least ten housewives that have taken anti depressants, anti anxiety something to take the edge off as a result of being on the show, because the pressure is so great, the pressure to look like you have money, the pressure to have a storyline, the pressure of fame, the pressure of battling your skeletons coming out of the closet, the pressure of

other people constantly talking about you, Sleepless nights, trips that are like a pressure cooker designed for confide like so women can really get into it, and then recover reunions that people come out of and say that they felt like they went through a war. Women are dehydrated, exhausted, and need days to recover from these reunions where you rehash these manufactured conflicts that you would never have entered into were you not on the Housewives. The money is

too tempting, the fame is too tempting. But at the end, there's a pot of gold for some, for the very few that fight their way to the top make it out alive. The rest are just casualties of the Real

Housewives atmosphere. So when Andy is asked about the reality reckoning and responds with I'm just focusing on the joy, that's a bag of bullshit, because there's no other reason why Bravo and Shed would be putting out all these statements about implementing psychological professionals and measures and tests and alcohol controls, et cetera. And as Liam McSweeney said in Nightline,

even bar is designed for profit to sell alcohol. Stop someone when they've exceeded a reasonable amount of alcohol consumption. But on the Housewives, which is not a legal workplace, excessive alcohol consumption by people that are known addicts in the environment is a positive. Everybody gets excited when the addict falls off the wagon, gets wasted, does something stupid and crazy, because in this upside down that's a positive.

That's performing well at work. And now this two paste is out of the tube, the genie is out of the bottle, and we've opened Pandora's box. And I'm sorry, not sorry. So yeah, if biting the hand that fed us, that hand deserves to be bitten. In thinking about the Housewives and like Kyle and Mauricio's breakup, or Dorriad and PK and what's going on with them or all of this, I was talking to my therapist about in my adult career, I was raised in an environment where you have to

mention it all. You don't really have a private life. Kyle cannot not talk about what's going on with her in Mauricio. She doesn't have that option. Dorie cannot talk about her relationship with PK the girl on the new show. I saw something about like she had to talk about her boyfriend. Now she's on a reality show, she cannot not talk about her relationship with her guy or anyone like literally, Nini, who you're dating, it's what they've signed up for. And Nini's not even on reality TV anymore.

But I was thinking. I was talking to my therapists and she said, you are trained in an environment where you have to share your entire private life, and you don't live in that environment anymore. And it's funny because when I talk about deprogramming from that and how that desensitizes you from normalization, how you think things are normal that aren't, and it's the upside down. How something happens and you just know that it would be great for

the cameras. Where are the cameras, like, and you want to capture it or save it for the cameras. Or someone else does something that you know they did privately, and you really feel that it's unfair that they're not bringing it into the show. Because you're being forced to

bring in whatever you're doing into the show. The producers might say, you have to talk about this thing that happened, and Jane is sleeping with her you know, best friend's husband, and you know about it, and you're being held to a standard that they're not because maybe they're better at

sleuthing or and it all comes to the surface. And I left that environment and in no area of my life, whether it's my daughter or my relationship, or my health or my aging or anything, I don't owe anyone anything. I don't have to tell anyone anything about my life. And I think we live in this world, even on social media where like people have followers. They may not be famous, but they are speaking to an audience. We feel like we have to, you know, tell people about

our lives. Where's Paul or when does Brittan see her dad? You know, like, what are they think I'm gonna post Brinn and her dad on my social media, Like it's my responsibility to let them know what our custody schedule is, how much time is how much time does Brin spend with her dad? You're out your fucking mind. When's last

time you fucked your husband? Like you think you're gonna come in my social media and say something like that to me, I'll do you just blocked, like you said, It's like, who the fuck do people think they actually are? Like they're gonna come into my social media and like say that to me. Someone yesterday was like, I'm distracted because of the piece of food on your mouth. I had a tiny piece of seaweed, like tiny. I didn't even see it. Fuck you. I can have whatever I

want in my mouth. I can grub chocolate all over my face and post a video in my own house because I'm a very rare breed of people who post on social media what I want to post. I'm making an ice cream cake in my kitchen and pajamas, haven't washed my hair, and I've been in bed for three days, and I have a piece of ice cream or a sprinkle on my nose. It's my own fucking prerogative. And it's my own body, my own ice cream, my own sprinkle, my own post, my own choice. Why don't you boast

your daughter more on here? What? Like everybody feels entitled to everybody else's information. Someone's on television, now this was to tell you everything about themselves. Now, when I put myself in my ex on a reality show about our relationship, you bit damn fucking right. You want to know because I dragged you in. I brought you in. I brought you to a fairytale wedding. I thought told you everything was, you know, perfect. Then it started to unravel, and I

felt a responsibility to tell you everything was imperfect. I didn't even have to do that. I felt some legal obligation because I brought you in that I had to bring you out. You know, like j Rod are perfect, they're perfect. They're perfect, they're perfect. Then they break up and they want privacy, and it feels like you brought us in, so now you got to take us out. Megan.

I always bring up Megan Fox because every day they were gushing over their love and they were sharing butd and they were making out and it was they were one person. One day, something happened with infidelity or something happened. I don't know if they're together anymore. They went dark. They may not even be celebrities anymore. I mean they just went into a cave. Something went on with the

two of them. They went totally dark. And but you know, even having a publicist, well you know, and mine's great, like, well, you're gonna have to say something. I got like ten phone calls today. Okay, so what I don't want to talk about brit, I don't want to talk about my custody schedule. I don't have to say anything, you know what I mean? Like, things go on and you can just choose what version of public or private you want to be. You don't have to talk about anything, to

talk about the food on your mouth. You can be a private person, even if your public or a social media person, or even in your own neighborhood and your own cul to sec at your own country club. It's very empowering to just like not talk about what you don't want to talk about, and have whatever private life you want to have, and do what you want to

do and don't. It's only when you get really hypocritical that people get bothered, Like you're asking someone else to share their information, or you told everyone it was perfect, or you pretended you were perfect. You pretended you were perfect, or you pretended you were so kind and so nice and so loving and wonderful. Then if you're not kind and loving and wonderful, they're gonna fucking come after you.

It's just interesting what people's expectations are of you, what entitlement they have to you, everybody is now public property because they're posting about themselves. So where's the line. Another

interesting thing about becoming desensitized to what's normal. I never liked having a crew in my house, And now what happens is they set up tape and everything in your house, like to stay for part of the season, sometimes because they know they're gonna keep shooting or they're gonna be in one room a lot, so they just keep the

set up there. And what happens when they're shooting in your house is an entire couple of trucks come and the leanst it could ever be if you're a psychopath and like you're having like a like a China party of crystal and you wanted no extra footprints. The smallest they could ever be would be a producer, a sound person, two camera people, and like probably like five people. But like on a real normal shoot, there could be twelve people, like in and out of your house or in your driveway,

or things get scratched. People are like laying down on floors to try to watch on the small screen, like inside what they call video village. And I never liked it in the beginning. I tolerated it more but in the beginning it wasn't as big of an ordeal, Like there weren't budgets like there are now. So that I mean it's got Beverly Hills. It has to be shot like a Coca Cola commercial. Now now you see those interviews and they're usually usually done in another studio in

New York. They are probably on Beverly Hills. They set up a room or a green screen in a room and a backdrop and you just like go and your makeup and there, but like it's a lot in your house. And recently I did something on Nightline and there were literally two one to two camera people, one sound person and two producers on my property. I was like, I had hives. They did nothing wrong, they were invited to

be here. I don't like someone coming into my space and I feel totally violated and invaded one of camera crew's at my house even though they're here because I asked them to be. And it's because I have PTSD from housewives for so long, Like my daughter's home and like she's growing up in a world, and it was so infrequently it maybe happened her whole life. Two three times where she walks into the house and there's a

camera crew everywhere. Like I felt violated for her, Like she's trying to walk in and there are people everywhere that she doesn't know. She has to do like a nice fake smile and be polite, and like everyone's everywhere and the dogs are shaking and nervous because it's a whole thing, and like I didn't like the way it feel. Made me feel bad. It really really did made me

feel bad. It's just another one of those things you guys wouldn't know about shooting a show like The Housewives, that you can have twelve people inside your house two to three times a week and they're lovely people and they're nice, or you were just like not, you just had bad news, you're in a bad mood, someone just died, you have your period, you had a bad business call, and like you've got to be nice to everybody because they're in your home and like you know, and and

they feel bad too. They don't want to intrude any more than you want them to intrude. They feel like they have to creep around. It's the worst for them. It's just a very strange dynamic. And I don't miss that. Another thing about housewives is the difference in the relationships you'll have with housewives off the show. There's nothing on the table. There's no competition, there's nothing charge. There's no one who's got andy'sier more than you or the other.

There's no like avoiding talking about secret topics that only people that are on a show can know. There's no like what talk you know. You can't talk about the money you got or the opportunities you got, or where you went or what was sent to you for free, because everybody's always like grabbing and competing, and people can pretend on different casts. It can be Salidlake, it can

be Beverly Hills, it can be wherever. And I know people on all those shows, and they all will talk about what they got with someone else didn't get there in the middle. They got to sit next to Andy. The others didn't get invited to go on the trip to go to another country, only me. Like every housewife is the same, every and they all just really are in this other constant competition. Even if it's not overt,

it's subtle. There's something very subtle about it, and it goes on with everyone everywhere, and it's all consuming if you go out to dinner with multiple people from the housewives sphere or the reality TV like that sphere, it's eighty percent of what's talked about. It's just too tempting,

and everybody who's talking obviously the other person. It happened at our big dinner in LA There was a housewife there and she was talking about plot lines going on, and Jenny Garth was sitting there and had no idea what she was talking about. I didn't know what she was talking about, but she was in the bubble, so she thought that we all knew what she was talking about. No one knew what she was talking about. Literally, no

one knew what she was talking about. And she was going on for a while like a housewife way of like no, and it's ridiculous because I did that, and they did that, and that's what's going to happen. And I said this, and I was just like, you were talking another language. It's a world unto itself. It's like, it's strange that everyone in that environment cult like environment thinks that everyone else knows what's going on with them.

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