James Dooley: Running AI agents simultaneously and having multiple AI agents all working for you 24/7 is a huge shift. Today I am joined with Dennis Yu, who uses so many different LLMs and is using so many different AI agents. What I want you to do, Dennis Yu, if possible, is share your screen and show one or two examples where you have multiple AI agents all working simultaneously, and explain what people can be doing with regards to AI. I have quite a lot of followers who are using ChatGPT just for going back and forth, and they think they are quite advanced with how they prompt AI. But obviously there is so much more you can do when you are running multiple AI agents. So I just want to show people what can be done, and what you recommend for contractors or SEO agencies. Should they be using all these different LLMs or should they just be focusing on one? What are your thoughts on the different LLMs?
Dennis Yu: Yes. So James Dooley, we could certainly debate the nuances between the different LLMs, like who is better at image generation versus memory versus writing blog posts and all that. But I think it is better, if you are not spending 16 hours a day like I am, to start with Claude. If SEO or digital marketing or doing something in business is your main thing, I would start with Claude. The beauty of Claude, as you can see here, is that you have got chat, co-work and code all together. If you do not know what these things are, just think of them as different ways of working. You can have conversations, or you can have the thing actually work on your computer, including you giving remote control directions from your phone, which is dispatch, and saving things into projects and even turning them into infographics or building apps on the fly, which are called artefacts. All these different things, and then of course when you want to scale something and have a job that kicks off every Monday at 5am or whatever, that is part of code. The beauty is a lot of people do not even need WordPress anymore. Even Yoast, the guy who built the big plugin, said he is done with WordPress.
Dennis Yu: Here is how I think about it. You see here in Chrome, a few minutes ago, I said, James Dooley and I made a lot of content. Can you take these YouTube videos and turn them into articles? And you can see it has already started. It has gone through 116 steps. While it has done this work here, you can see it has opened a whole bunch of these tabs. Do you see these tab groups? The way I like to think about this is that even though it looks crazy because there are about 70 tabs, what is actually going on is some of these tabs here on the left are for me as a human. I might have about 10 tabs. Everything to the right of that are agents.
Dennis Yu: So they are agents that act like departments. There are agents that are processing YouTube videos, writing blog posts, sending emails to clients, updating the project management system, running ads, writing books, editing videos, and doing all these different jobs. I view these as teams of agents. Here is one where it is building a website right now for my friend Jason Amato. You can see as it is doing things, it will say, do you want me to do this next? And I will say, yes, do that. Then it will say, yes, I did this. Then it might say the biggest remaining gaps are analytics tracking installation. Okay, well the agent cannot do that, so I need to, or one of our team needs to do that. So maybe I could say, for the Google Tag Manager and Analytics and Search Console and all that, can you just send a note to web@blitzmetrics.com
summarising what we did here so they can go and add the tags and Tag Manager and all that kind of stuff, and then get back to you so you can continue what you talked about here.
Dennis Yu: So it will go ahead and do that. I am talking to it like a human. I do not need to remember everything because I can just say, go and do this thing, and if you do not hear back from so-and-so by Monday, then let me know and send them another email because sometimes they do not reply.
James Dooley: Just a quick one on that, Dennis Yu. You mentioned dispatch. So let us say I am out of the office. Let us say I am having a game of golf and in between round five and round six I quickly check my phone. Can I, using Claude dispatch on the phone, respond to that and say go, go, go and contact web, go and do this, so then the different AI agents can continue as well?
Dennis Yu: Yes. So when you have longer projects, like this one, this is American Dumpsters, and these guys have a conference and they have a lot of dumpster companies involved. You can see right here it is working on a really large data set. This guy has a ton of YouTube videos. We have to prepare for the conference and get people to sign up and all this and that. So as it is working, it might get stuck or I might have an idea. Maybe I gave it some initial thoughts, but later I had another idea, like I forgot to tell it this thing and that thing. I can go into dispatch and say, by the way, can you also do this and that, so that way I do not have to go back to my laptop.
Dennis Yu: I have always been used to doing work on my laptop because the phone is just not conducive to doing great work. But now with dispatch, the little adjustments along the way I do on my phone, and it has freed up so much of my time. I was that sort of person who would open up my laptop in a restaurant because all of my tools and everything else were there. But now I am able to just talk to it from the phone and it is basically a walkie-talkie to my computer.
James Dooley: Yes, it is incredible. It is so good. You see the little spinning orange thing. It is doing all this stuff right now. With regards to Claude for code, how many different AI agents can you have working simultaneously?
Dennis Yu: As many as you want. It is limited by your own human memory, not by the context or memory limits of the tool itself. The people I know who have gone deep on this say the limitation is really their own ability to project manage or multitask across too many projects. Even I find that if I have more than seven or eight projects going at the same time, I start to lose track.
James Dooley: Yes. So with regards to running these multiple AI agents simultaneously, how different is this? Because there are certain people using workflows like n8n or Make. How much different is this versus n8n or Make?
Dennis Yu: I think you can replace all those. I just feel like we should have fewer and fewer systems because there is too much friction.
James Dooley: Yes, I agree.
Dennis Yu: Why not have all your logic centralised?
James Dooley: That is my concern. I am getting quite a few different contractors, customers and friends reaching out, and they are basically saying they are using OpenClaude, n8n, Make, Perplexity and ChatGPT. I feel like the memory is all over the place and there are bits going on that are not centralised into one place. I feel like now I should be telling people, especially from what you have been educating me on, that they should have a centralised setup using Claude. There are so many things you can be doing within that, and it does not need all this mess, because otherwise people are getting shiny object syndrome and I just think things are becoming too all over the place.
Dennis Yu: I will give you an example. I have been crazy about WordPress plugins. We built our own, we use a lot of them, and I love WordPress. I have been one of those die-hard WordPress people. But I have since been convinced by Yoast that WordPress is made for humans, but if you do not need humans to log into an admin or have a workflow, then why not just have the agent do everything?
Dennis Yu: I did a test for the last year with Link Whisper, which is a link-building plugin for WordPress. I have had three meetings with the CEO. I paid them a lot of money and had them optimise some of our sites that were medium-sized. We were not going to let them touch our big sites. Then I told them we were going to have Claude do the internal link building on some other sites and we were just going to see who did a better job. We absolutely crushed them. Our agents did it quickly, and it took Link Whisper over a year and they made lots of mistakes. Then the funny thing, which really annoyed their team, was that I had Claude come in and audit the work they did and find all the mistakes, and then I showed that to them and they got all defensive. I said, how are you going to argue with the facts?
Dennis Yu: The old way of doing things, which is manually linking, or their thing of saying their AI agent is so smart that it will automatically find which orphan pages need to be linked to what, sounds good. But those same instructions, because they are mechanical and rules-based, can be done by an agent. So I think that whole thing is being collapsed. You do not need Microsoft Word anymore. You do not need all these other tools. You can just use one tool to do all of it. And then the beauty is you have centralised memory. You do not have to deal with all these other apps not talking to each other. That is where the fragmentation happens.
James Dooley: If Yoast is saying WordPress is not needed anymore because users do not need to log in and the agents can be doing it, what would the AI agents then be using? Would it just literally be raw HTML and CSS?
Dennis Yu: You do not have to mess with JavaScript. You do not have to mess with plugins. The sites load three times faster. It is like the whole point of headless CMS, but even better because you do not have a security concern. You do not have all these different attack vectors.
James Dooley: Yes, because it is all just HTML.
Dennis Yu: Yes, exactly.
James Dooley: That is crazy. Anyone who is watching this and thinking they are quite advanced with prompting AI but not using AI agents, I would strongly recommend following Dennis Yu. He is doing a lot of testing. He says he is doing 18 hours a day. I believe some days he is doing 20 hours plus. He is split testing these LLMs like there is no tomorrow. I think having these AI agents running simultaneously is going to be the future and what you need to be doing. I think Claude is the first step from what Dennis Yu is saying. Dennis Yu, I appreciate everything you do for everybody and I hope to have you on again soon.
Dennis Yu: Thank you, James Dooley. Guys, I want to see you kick some butt here. This is so awesome. We have got to jump on this.
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