In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to Gina Thomas’s presentation about her study that studies the archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram. Gina is an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche and she conducted four interviews with 13 focus groups, asking the participants to illustrate their type. She explores the transcendent function for ...
Jul 03, 2025•40 min•Ep. 48
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a presentation by Gina Thomas, MA, an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche. Gina talks about her study that studies archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram through her four interviews with 13 focus groups. She initially focused on Enneagram Types Three, Six and Nine for her master’s thesis and then continued ...
Jun 19, 2025•40 min•Ep. 47
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Lisa Morrice’s discussion about the passions by looking at the qualities from the thinking center. This center is about being present in our mind and having the awareness to be mentally still and receptive to insight, intuition and not knowing. Lisa talks about three ways the essential qualities of this center can manifest when they’re present and also the four principles for transforming the passions. Connect with u...
Jun 05, 2025•16 min•Ep. 46
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Lisa Morrice about the passions—a recurring emotional pattern associated with our personality types. When we’re not aware of them, they run us pretty much all the time, making us forget ourselves on a fundamental level. Lisa explains how it helps to understand the passions from the three centers by looking at the qualities. She also discusses how the passions play out in each type. Connect with us: Web: ...
May 22, 2025•32 min•Ep. 45
In this special collaborative episode with the IEA Podcast, Do It for The Gram and Fathoms, Milton Stewart, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers. The Fathoms team will continue t...
May 08, 2025•54 min•Ep. 44
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Renee Rosario’s conversation about using mindfulness with the Enneagram, which is a great tool to open us up to greater wisdom and help us make better choices. Renee invites two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they bring to inner practice and what challenges them. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org 2025 IEA Global Conference: internationalenneagram.org/2025-iea-global-conferen...
Apr 24, 2025•49 min•Ep. 43
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Renee Rosario about using mindfulness with the Enneagram to gain greater clarity with what’s happening inside. Mindfulness is a great tool to transform things and opens us up to greater wisdom. Renee explains the three skills that are essential to mindfulness—concentration, sensory clarity and equanimity—and how this can help us make better choices and develop new pathways before leading the group in an ...
Apr 10, 2025•2 hr 5 min•Ep. 42
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from IEA Conference 2009 by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner about Alfred Adler, founder of the school of individual psychology. Jerry explains Adler’s theory that emphasizes on the uniqueness of each person and social dimensions, comparing it to Freud, and its relevance with the Enneagram. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org 2025 IEA Global Conference: internationalenneagram.org/2025-iea-global-conferen...
Mar 27, 2025•57 min•Ep. 41
This episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast is another part of the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. They focus on answering audience questions on topics such as the three centers and levels of development. The four instructors also share personal experiences with their dominant instinct and what they’ve learned about themselves from this series. Connec...
Mar 13, 2025•59 min•Ep. 40
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. This week, they provide a practical example as they conduct 20-minute typing interviews with volunteers who are unsure of their dominant instinctual subtype, asking questions to help provide additional clarity. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.o...
Feb 27, 2025•1 hr 25 min•Ep. 39
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. Mario discusses the Awareness to Action approach to instinctual biases, which is considered unconventional, and why he sees three specific patterns instead of six. The four teachers also answer questions from the audience regarding the subtypes and countert...
Feb 13, 2025•55 min•Ep. 38
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the discussion about the instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. Each brings their own perspectives as they explore how they think about these subjects and the terms they use to describe the differences between instincts and subtypes. They also explain how they work with the development of all three instincts. Connect with ...
Jan 30, 2025•51 min•Ep. 37
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a discussion with four well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora–about the instincts and instinctual biases, subtypes and how those apply to our lives. This exploration will help us understand how these four teachers view and think about the instincts and subtypes so that we can further explore and refine our own understanding of ours. Over the next few episodes, we will s...
Jan 16, 2025•41 min•Ep. 36
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the discussion by Helen Palmer, a teacher of psychology and intuition, from the 2005 archives. Helen talks about the inner witness, the inner observer and the conversion from Vice to Virtue–a contemplative method that helps us recognize our own psychological patterns. She includes actual practices throughout the talk to guide us to dissolve negative emotions rather than act them out. Connect with us: Web: internation...
Jan 02, 2025•1 hr 29 min•Ep. 35
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we reach into the 2005 archives to share the first part of a discussion from Helen Palmer, a teacher of psychology and intuition, about the inner observer and inner witness and the conversion from Vice to Virtue. This contemplative method helps us recognize their own psychological patterns, so that we can shift our awareness into the several interior states that are available to ordinary people like ourselves. This conversation ...
Dec 19, 2024•1 hr 15 min•Ep. 34
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Marion Gilbert leads a meditation for the Embodied Enneagram. As we start the last month of 2024, take this moment to relax and reconnect with your mind, heart and body. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org 2025 IEA Global Conference: internationalenneagram.org/2025-iea-global-conference Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org IEA Conference Proposal Submission Information & Guidelines: int...
Dec 05, 2024•12 min•Ep. 33
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we reach into the 2007 archives to share this session by Peter O’Hanrahan, an Enneagram teacher and trainer since 1978, and Marion Gilbert, an R.P.T. who has been practicing physical therapy since 1978. Peter and Marion talk about the Embodied Enneagram, a holistic view of people and personality type, and the three center approach to the Enneagram–mind, heart and body. They also lead in some breathing and stretching exercises. C...
Nov 21, 2024•55 min•Ep. 32
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archive to listen to a conference talk by Fr. Richard Rohr in 2006. Father Richard, a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher, talks in his endnote about the transformational work of the Enneagram and the notion of higher consciousness. He explores if the Enneagram is a private spirituality or if there are any social or political directions. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org 2025 IEA Global Confer...
Nov 07, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 31
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to the talk by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about attachment theory–the importance of seeking closeness between infants and their parents–in the Enneagram. They speak to a group of parents and have them describe each Enneagram type’s parenting style based on small group work, their strengths and weaknesses, and at times asking them about their specific family situations. Connect with us: We...
Oct 24, 2024•58 min•Ep. 30
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archives and listen to a talk from 2005 by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about the attachment theory in the Enneagram. Attachment theory is the importance of seeking closeness to another human, in this case, the early relationships between infants and their parents. Dr. Daniels and Dr. Siegel discusses the attachment styles within this theory—a topic that has grown in popularity–and how it works ...
Oct 10, 2024•54 min•Ep. 29
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso about psychic structures from the IEA Global Conference in 1994. Psychic structures are the schematic models that help us visualize the dynamics for each Enneagram type, and Russ and Don use Enneagram Types Six and Nine as examples. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org 2025 IEA Global Conference: internationalenneagram.org/2025-iea-global-conference Jo...
Sep 26, 2024•34 min•Ep. 28
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we dig into the archives and present a talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso from the first IEA Global Conference in 1994. With the theme for this year’s conference being “Honoring Pioneers and Future Frontiers,” we hear from some of the founders as they discuss psychic structures, the schematic models that help us visualize the dynamics for each Enneagram type. In this first part of the talk, Russ and Don start with...
Sep 12, 2024•51 min•Ep. 27
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Adelaida Harrison, Seth "Creek" Creekmore, Milton Stewart and Patrick Simonsen talk about the 2025 IEA Global Conference, which will take place July 25-27 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Milton, Conference Chair, previews what to expect as IEA celebrates 30 years with this year’s theme, “Honoring Pioneers and Future Frontiers,” and the opportunities to connect with others around the Enneagram. Connect with us: Web: internationalennea...
Aug 29, 2024•33 min•Ep. 26
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Patrick Simonsen, from IEA Denmark, speaks with Karl Hebenstreit, an executive coach, author, speaker, leadership/team/organization development consultant with more than 25 years of experience. Karl talks about his books, starting with his most recent, Explicit Expectations: The Essential Guide & Toolkit of Management Fundamentals, that explores why we should treat others the way they want to be treated, rather than how we w...
Aug 15, 2024•37 min•Ep. 25
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we share the second part of Sandra Maitri’s talk from 2017 about using the Enneagram as a tool for growth. Sandra talks more in depth about the practice of inquiry to question our basic assumptions for each Enneagram type. Each Enneagram type has fundamental qualities and reactive tendencies to our behavioral problems. Sandra shares why we need to be present with all three centers of intelligence so that we can inquiry effective...
Aug 01, 2024•38 min•Ep. 24
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from our 2017 archives to feature a talk by Sandra Maitri about the history of the Enneagram and how to understand the Enneagram as a tool for growth that describes a pattern our consciousness takes. In this first part of her talk, Sandra talks about her experience with the Enneagram to remind us that it is a map but doesn’t tell you how to travel the territory, but rather teaches us how to work with our ego structure, r...
Jul 18, 2024•40 min•Ep. 23
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we present the second half of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her approach to the centers. She shares an excerpt from a panel that explores the heart center and its core function of doing as well as discusses the body center and its dominant function of feelings. She also gives tips on how to pay attention to your patterns and all three centers. Connect with us: IEA2023.com Leslie Hershberger: Web: lesliehershberger.com Set...
Jul 04, 2024•56 min•Ep. 22
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we take a break from our usual content and share some archival discussions from conferences and what we think is a great fit. This week is the first part of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her unique approach to the centers. She walks us through her research project that studies the centers and understands the functions for the different centers and conducts an experiment for us to learn how we experience ourselves and othe...
Jun 20, 2024•46 min•Ep. 21
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Milton Stewart, founder of Kaizen Careers, Coaching and Consulting LLC and creator of the podcast "Do It For the Gram: An Enneagram Podcast." As a member of the IEA Global Board of Directors, Milton shares his thoughts on the IEA Conference compared to previous years, reflecting on some of his favorite moments. He also discusses what’s next for the global community as they interweave these sparks of great ideas and...
Jun 06, 2024•15 min•Ep. 20
In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Vanessa Fernandez, a coach and somatic practitioner who explores the intersections of identity in relation to Enneagram work. She explores the things that no one tells you when you start doing this Enneagram work and some of the support that can help as you are faced with the period of actual transformation. Connect with us: IEA2023.com Vanessa Fernandez: Web: theenneagramworkshop.com Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_...
May 23, 2024•40 min•Ep. 19
