The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Send us Fan Mail What does it really mean to claim to be "the only true and living church on the face of the earth"? In this episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim sit down with returning guest Greg Prince to wrestle with one of the boldest claims in Latter-day Saint theology — and the exclusive priesthood authority that underpins it.
Send us Fan Mail Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the controversial history of the Nauvoo Expositor and its lasting implications for honesty, institutional transparency, and the modern LDS Church. The discussion begins with a review of the Church’s official explanation for the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor printing press in 1844 and whether Joseph Smith’s actions as mayor of Nauvoo were legally or morally justified. Greg Prince argues that the expositor’s accusations—including p...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most controversial topics in Latter-day Saint history: the multiple accounts of Joseph Smith’s First Vision. Together, they explore the historical record surrounding the First Vision, including the differences between Joseph Smith’s 1832, 1835, and 1838 accounts, the evolution of LDS teachings about the nature of God, and why the First Vision was largely absent from early missionary work an...
Send us Fan Mail Ian, Jim, and returning guest Greg Prince tackle one of the most urgent and sensitive issues facing the Latter-day Saint community today: faith crisis. Drawing on new research, personal experience, and candid discussion, the trio explores why so many members step away from the Church—and why common assumptions about sin, offense, or weakness often miss the mark. They examine the real drivers behind disaffiliation, including doctrinal concerns, historical questions, and a growing...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim explore a “tale of the unexpected” that turns out to be far more universal than dramatic. Jim shares the story of how he ended up serving a mission—not through a sudden, life-altering conversion, but through a lifetime of quieter spiritual experiences he once felt weren’t “enough.” Along the way, he opens up about growing up as an outsider, navigating identity across different social worlds, and the pressure to make his story more compelling—even to himself. Through ...
Send us Fan Mail In this livestream, Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince for a candid, unfiltered conversation on one of the most talked-about developments in the Latter-day Saint world: the Church’s lawsuit against John Dehlin and Mormon Stories . The conversation also touches on broader themes, including the “Streisand Effect,” the challenges of faith transitions, and the need for open, respectful dialogue—both inside and outside the Church. In the final segme...
Send us Fan Mail Ian shares one of the most disturbing—and unforgettable—experiences from his mission in Scotland. What begins as a routine visit with a potential convert quickly turns into something far stranger. A blessing. A voice that isn’t hers. A sudden, violent shift. And a moment that leaves two young missionaries questioning everything they thought they understood about faith, the supernatural, and the human mind. Jim responds with a story of his own—one that once felt like a clear case...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined by returning guest Greg Prince to explore his updated Roadmap 2.0 for improving Mormonism. Building on earlier discussions, the conversation dives deeply into one central question: Is the Church still relevant in today’s world—and if so, how?
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined once again by returning guest Greg Prince to explore the evolution of his influential “Roadmap” for improving The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Building on more than 20 prior conversations, Greg introduces Roadmap 2.0 —a significantly expanded and refined version of his original work. Drawing on decades of research, personal experience, and deep reflection, Greg explains how the new roadmap goes beyond diagnosis to offer concrete, thoughtful...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim reunite for a wide-ranging, candid conversation sparked by a recent Church policy change allowing women to serve as ward Sunday School presidents. What begins as a discussion of a seemingly small shift quickly expands into a deeper exploration of authority, gender roles, and the nature of change within the Church. Jim and Ian examine whether this move represents meaningful progress or merely a symbolic “crack in the dam”—and what it might signal for the future....
Send us Fan Mail This is audio from a livestream discussion that took place on March 10, 2026. You can watch the original video here . Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince for a candid discussion on one of the most difficult and urgent issues facing the Church today: abuse, accountability, and institutional responsibility. Framed as “encouragement, not criticism,” Greg shares insights from his proposed roadmap for improving Mormonism—focusing on how the Church ca...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome returning guest Michelle Brady Stone, along with historian Cheryl Bruno, co-founders of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy . Together, they explore the complex and often controversial history of polygamy in the early Church through the lens of scholarship, not soundbites.
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome a longtime friend and Ian's former missionary companion, Byron Casper—the son of legendary golfer Billy Casper. Byron shares what it was like growing up in the shadow of one of golf’s greatest champions, rebelling as a teenager, and eventually serving a mission in Scotland despite feeling completely unprepared for it. His story includes everything from PGA Tour life to culture shock in Aberdeen, a fiery missionary companionship with Ian, and a transformative ...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim sit down with listener Chris Robinson to discuss faith, shame, addiction, and the long road toward self-acceptance. Chris shares his deeply personal story growing up in the Church, serving a mission, and quietly battling a pornography addiction that filled his life with secrecy, guilt, and spiritual turmoil. Chris’s courage in sharing his story opens an honest conversation about topics that are often avoided but desperately needed....
Send us Fan Mail In this deeply personal episode, Ian shares a story he’s never told publicly before about an experience that changed his life forever. Jim responds with a powerful mission story of his own, and together they reflect on what these sacred moments mean — inside faith, outside faith, and beyond religious boundaries. Does God show up only within organized religion? Or is divine love universal and available to everyone?...
Send us Fan Mail This is the audio version of a live discussion with Greg Prince that took place on Tuesday, February 24, 2026. Greg Prince’s Roadmap for Improving Mormonism outlines how essential it is for the Church to adopt a positive philosophy of sex as it deals with the realities and the challenges of the modern world. You can watch the video on YouTube by clicking here ....
Send us Fan Mail How much do we really know? And how much should we claim to know? Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the role of mystery in faith. Beginning with a fascinating story about President David O. McKay’s reluctance to “paint Christ,” the conversation unfolds into a wide-ranging discussion about doctrine, certainty, humility, science, temple symbolism, and the danger of claiming too many answers.
Send us Fan Mail Ian shares a spontaneous with two young missionaries in a shopping mall — a conversation that quickly moved from small talk to polygamy, race and the priesthood, prophetic fallibility, and moral obedience. What happens when one missionary says he would follow the prophet “even if it was wrong,” and his companion quietly says he wouldn’t? Then the discussion turns to the recent calling of Elder Clark G. Gilbert as an apostle — a decision that has sparked both support and backlash...
Send us Fan Mail We're going to be one of the first podcasts out of the gate to discuss President Oaks's debut address as President of the Church, which he gave today at BYU! Come be part of the discussion - it starts at 7:00 PM, about an hour from now! Click here or visit https://www.youtube.com/live/yCpgfxzximk?si=RrZBJySGSaH3qjxz...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome historian and author Greg Prince back to the podcast for a searching, urgent conversation about moral authority in the public square—and the growing silence of religious institutions at a moment of profound civic and ethical crisis.
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim sit down for a one-on-one conversation to examine recent remarks by Elder Ronald A. Rasband about missionary work, church growth, and the “hastening” of the Lord’s work. Taking a close look at six “false narratives” Elder Rasband says need debunking, Jim and Ian explore what church growth really means—and how it’s measured. They discuss missionary numbers, retention rates, regional differences, and why broad claims often lack the hard data needed to evaluate them hon...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and scholar Greg Prince to explore one of the most neglected and sensitive issues in modern Mormonism: disability. Drawing from Greg’s unpublished “roadmap” for institutional reform—and from deeply personal experience as the parent of an autistic adult—the conversation examines how church culture, doctrine, and silence have shaped the lived experiences of people with disabilities and their families. Together, Greg, Jim, and Ian unpa...
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince to discuss the Church’s long-standing “ us versus them” mindset — how it shaped missionary culture, theological certainty, and member identity, and how it continues to affect relationships with other faiths, former members, and the wider world.
Send us Fan Mail Richard Lyman Bushman, one of the most influential historians of Joseph Smith and early Mormonism, returns to Inside Out for a candid conversation about faith, doubt, and the complicated relationship between spiritual conviction and institutional history.
Send us Fan Mail In this New Year episode of Inside Out , Ian and Jim welcome back historian and scholar Greg Prince for a wide-ranging conversation centered on the recent passing of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and what his funeral revealed about the Church’s leadership transition and future direction.
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back renowned Mormon historian and author Greg Prince for a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation about one of the most debated elements of modern Mormon culture: the Word of Wisdom. Together, they examine how a revelation originally given “not by commandment or constraint” became a central loyalty marker for temple worthiness—and why the Church’s modern enforcement looks very different from the actual text of Doctrine & Covenants 89....
Send us Fan Mail What does it really mean to be a Christian - or a Mormon - today? Ian and Jim are once again joined by historian Greg Prince and author and former bishop Ganesh Cherian for an honest, unscripted conversation about faith, loyalty, identity, and the future of Mormonism.
Send us Fan Mail What happens when conscience collides with institution—and peace, not anger, is the result? Ian and Jim sit down with Karen Hyatt, a lifelong Latter-day Saint whose deep devotion to Christ led her to one of the most controversial conclusions in modern Mormon discourse: that Joseph Smith was not a polygamist—and that the historical record has been profoundly misrepresented. Karen shares her faith journey as a convert, missionary, wife, and researcher, culminating in her two-hour ...
Send us Fan Mail Jim and Ian sit down with Pat Boisselle — an old friend of Ian's whose life in Mormonism was defined by devotion, service, and sincerity. For decades, Pat was the kind of Latter-day Saint who quietly strengthened his community: a devoted husband, a dedicated missionary, a compassionate servant, and someone known for going above and beyond without seeking recognition. But in recent years, Pat’s faith was shaken by troubling questions, institutional decisions, and personal experie...
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