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Husband Material

So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.

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Episodes

How Porn Recovery Can Transform Your Church (with Sam Black)

What if your church was a safe space to outgrow porn? Sam Black explains how porn recovery ministry leads to less work for pastors, more generous donors, more passionate volunteers, and a legacy of health for the next generation. Sam Black is the Director of Recovery Education at CovenantEyes . He has edited 16 books on the impact of pornography and authored two: The Porn Circuit and The Healing Church . Buy Sam's new book (this is a paid link): The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About ...

Oct 30, 202333 min

How To Escape Creepy Conversations Before Sexting

Have you ever felt uncomfortable or unsafe while chatting online? In this episode, I’ll share practical tips on how to escape creepy conversations… and 5 reasons why we sometimes don’t. At the end, you’ll hear real-life examples of how I have responded to unwanted sexual communication. What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or wa...

Oct 23, 202328 min

Healing From Rejection, Racism, And Betrayal (with Roy Kim)

Have you ever been rejected? Roy Kim explains how rejection and internalized racism drove him to pornography. He also opens up about what it's like to struggle with with porn as a pastor—and as a male betrayed partner. Roy offers real hope through the power of compassion and community. Roy Kim, M.Div, CSAT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist in Southern California focusing on sexual addictions and betrayal trauma. He is a former pastor and enjoys partnering with pastors to educate churc...

Oct 16, 202349 min

Porn And Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (with Andrew Loyd)

Do you know what it's like to struggle with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) in addition to porn? Andrew Loyd does; he has also experienced years of freedom. In this episode, Andrew unpacks how OCD and unwanted sexual behavior can be related. With curiosity and compassion, he also highlights the path to healing. This episode is important! Andrew Loyd is the founder of Restored Story Coaching . He is an ordained minister, Certified Enneagram Coach, and Certified Husband Material Coach. He is p...

Oct 09, 202330 min

David’s Sexual Story (Sermon)

Who was David—the boy, the king, the sex offender? In this episode, you’ll see David’s sexual story from a new angle. You'll also get a taste of church with Husband Material Men through the dramatic reading of Scripture, confession of sin, assurance of pardon, and Christ-centered preaching by Drew Boa. This sermon was delivered on September 10, 2023 at the Husband Material Retreat. "God loves all parts of you and me. He did not come to destroy our parts. He came to redeem our parts." NOTE: Watch...

Oct 02, 202350 min

Reintegrative Therapy (with Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Jr.)

What is reintegrative therapy? Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Jr. explains his approach to treating trauma and how it can help men outgrow porn. Joseph also shares insights about sexual attraction, sexual development, euphoric recall, and the importance of being able to choose your own values and goals. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Jr. is a licensed clinical psychologist, author, researcher, and clinical director at The Breakthrough Clinic in Southern California. He received his Ph.D. in 2009 from the Chicago Schoo...

Sep 25, 202334 min

What To Do When You Feel The Urge To Watch Porn (with Dan Johnson)

How do you handle the intense urge to watch porn? This was Dan Johnson's dilemma. Dan struggled with porn for over 20 years. After re-confessing to his wife, putting filters on all his devices, joining a community of other men, and seeing a certified sex addiction therapist, he was still not experiencing the freedom he was longing for. In this episode, Dan shares the specific strategy he used to finally outgrow porn. Dan Johnson is a husband, a father, and the creator of The P.A.T.H. Plan and Th...

Sep 18, 202348 min

How To Heal Shame And Self-Contempt

Have you ever struggled with shame or self-contempt? In this episode, you'll learn the simple formula for healing shame through vulnerability and connection. You'll also hear a vulnerable, shame-filled part of my story I've never shared publicly. What if shame is actually not a curse, but a clue to our hearts and what we really need? Shame is a normal human emotion that shows us how much we care. Instead of using shame as a weapon, let’s use it as a window into where we need to heal. What are yo...

Sep 11, 202316 min

Appropriate Touch Between Men (LIVE)

Touch is one of our most basic human needs. But many of us have been deprived. How can men outgrowing porn embrace healthy physical touch with each other—and prevent harm? Find out in this panel discussion with Certified Husband Material Coaches Drew Boa, Stephen Thomas, John Kilmer, and Mike Chapman. You'll learn: the importance of safe touch for emotional and sexual development cultural differences in physical touch between men around the world rules about touch for members of the Husband Mate...

Sep 04, 202357 min

Healing Your Marriage After Gay Porn (with Tamara Lichfield)

This episode answers unique questions for married men who have sexually acted out with gay porn or other men. You'll learn what partners go through upon discovery of gay porn, why transparency matters, and how we can pursue connection with other men while continuing to rebuild trust with our wives. Tamara Lichfield provides support for women who have experienced betrayal trauma at Becoming Shatterproof LLC. Tamara has been trained by APSATS (Association of Partners Of Sex Addiction Treatment Spe...

Aug 28, 202340 min

The Inner Child Challenge Workshop (LIVE)

In this workshop led by Drew Boa, you'll learn how to connect with your inner child like never before. To complete the exercises, you will need: A piece of paper (digital documents will NOT work for this) 3 different crayons or colored pencils (if not, just use a pen) A posture of curiosity and willingness to try something new What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmaterial.com/workshop Support the show Take the Husband Material Journ...

Aug 21, 202354 min

Why You Need A Recovery Action Plan (with Nick Stumbo & Trevor Winsor)

How do you take action after relapse for growth and healing without using shame or punishment? After a porn relapse, what do appropriate consequences look like? Nick Stumbo and Trevor Winsor are members of the Executive Team at Pure Desire Ministries . Together, they host the popular Pure Desire Podcast . Free tools mentioned in this episode: Recovery Action Plan (for when a relapse has occurred) Escape Plan (for when we are triggered or tempted) Relapse Prevention Plan (for day-to-day life) The...

Aug 14, 202345 min

From Rock Bottom To Recovery Coach (with George Morning)

In this episode, you'll hear the inspiring story of George Morning ("Coach G"). We talk about the challenges faced by black men and men of color in outgrowing porn—and how societal pressures, misconceptions, and the normalization of addiction intensify these challenges. Coach G highlights the importance of finding relatable support and the power of positive internal dialogue. George Morning (Coach G) is a Certified Addiction Recovery Coach. After 30+ years as an addict and losing family, finance...

Aug 07, 202352 min

How My Sexual Fetish Shifted Over Time

In this episode, I'll share 7 things that shifted my sexual fetish to become less intense, less frequent, less disruptive, and less arousing. NOTE: I believe trying to alter sexual attraction is both unethical and unhelpful. My fetish has not been removed or replaced, and that is not my goal. Rather, my fetish lost its power through a series of shifts that took place as I pursued healing and freedom from porn. Here are the 7 things that helped me: Talking about the fetish Understanding the fetis...

Jul 31, 202328 min

A Story Of Healing Through Psychodrama (with Rick Carlson and Dr. Doug Carpenter)

What does psychodrama actually look like? In this episode, Rick Carlson tells the amazing story of his psychodrama process at the Husband Material Leaders Retreat. Register now for the upcoming Husband Material Retreat at husbandmaterial.com/retreat The early bird discount ends on August 1st. Rick Carlson is a Recovery Pastor, Life Coach, and Certified Husband Material Coach. Learn more at comebackcoaching.org Dr. Doug Carpenter is an author, clinical psychologist, and Certified Husband Material...

Jul 24, 202333 min

Experience Healing Through Psychodrama (with Dr. Doug Carpenter)

What is psychodrama? How can it help men outgrow porn? In this episode, Dr. Doug Carpenter explains why this powerful type of therapy creates profound healing experiences and accelerates freedom from porn. Picture this: you're on stage. You're the protagonist in your own drama, undoing and redoing the story of your life. But you're not alone. Your director is attuning to you. Your auxiliaries (other actors) are supporting you by playing the roles you need them to play. Your audience members are ...

Jul 17, 202347 min

I'm Fine Syndrome (with Stephen Thomas)

Have you ever pretended to be fine when you're really not? In this episode, Stephen Thomas explains "I'm Fine Syndrome"—what it is, why we struggle with it, and how to crush it. You'll learn the importance of honoring your wants and needs...and the power of being authentic. Admitting you're not fine is an act of bravery and the first step towards true freedom. Stephen Thomas is a husband and father who has enjoyed freedom from porn and hookup culture for over 14 years. He is a Certified Husband ...

Jul 10, 202345 min

Secrets Of Sex And Marriage (with Dr. Michael Sytsma)

"He said at 74, I am having the best sex of my life. At 74, my penis only occasionally shows up for the party. But I am still having the best sex of my life. I wish I had known in my thirties how to have this kind of sex." What is sex ultimately about? How can married couples enjoy sex more? How do you deal with differences in sexual desire? In this episode, Dr. Michael Sytsma offers a robust theology of sexuality AND clinical wisdom on how to unlock arousal, increase intimacy, and have fun in t...

Jul 03, 202344 min

Making Sense Of Masturbation: Case Studies And Spicy Questions (LIVE)

Can masturbation ever be neutral or healthy? In this episode, I'll explore complex moral questions about masturbation. Together with a live audience, we'll analyze 10 situations you may have never considered before: A toddler touches his penis to feel pleasure A young boy learns to masturbate from his uncle A teenager masturbates to regulate his emotions A teenager masturbates while imagining a cheeseburger A single man committed to celibacy discovers "core-gasm" A single man who has never mastu...

Jun 26, 202343 min

Making Sense Of Masturbation: Science, Scripture, And My Story (LIVE)

What is masturbation? How does it affect the brain? What does the Bible (not) say about it? What will happen to me if I don't masturbate? In this episode, I'll share insights from neuroscience, the New Testament, and my own story of masturbation. I've been researching this topic for the past 13 years...so I have a lot to share! You'll learn why myelination matters (even in masturbation without fantasy). You'll hear how masturbation combined with pornography has increased widespread erectile dysf...

Jun 19, 202348 min

Porn And Third Culture Kids (with John Kilmer)

Growing up between worlds, third culture kids face unique challenges in developing their identity and sense of belonging. Can these experiences create a higher risk of struggling with pornography? John Kilmer reveals the impact of moving during crucial developmental stages, and how unprocessed grief and loss can lead to unwanted sexual behavior. Through John's story, we discover the burden AND the beauty of being a third culture man. John Kilmer is a Mental Health Life Coach, Occupational Therap...

Jun 12, 202342 min

Porn, Autism, and ADHD: Embracing Neurodiversity (with Candice Christiansen)

How do neurodifferences like ADHD and autism relate to unwanted sexual behavior? How can embracing neurodiversity help us heal and outgrow porn? Candice Christiansen offers powerful perspectives and practical advice. This interview is delightful! For neurodivergent individuals (and same or mixed neurotype couples) who are struggling, Candice is here to help you gain clarity to make your relationship, intimacy, and sex as enjoyable, wonderful, and pleasurable as possible! Candice Christiansen is ...

Jun 05, 202338 min

How To Confront Parents With Compassion

Have you ever thought about confronting a parent, but you're not sure how? In this episode, you'll learn the right questions to ask yourself when considering why and how to confront your parent(s) with compassion. Three important questions to ask: What happened (to them and to me)? How do I feel about what happened? What do I want going forward? Recommended reading (paid link): Adult Children Of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents , by Dr. ...

May 29, 202323 min

Healing With My Parents (with Yvonne Boa and Sandy Boa)

In this episode, my parents share the good and the bad of how they raised me, and how we are healing. It's a story of vulnerability, repentance, and redemption. "All families have difficulties. If you bury them, you grow apart. If you get them on the table and solve them, then you can heal from that." —Sandy Boa "Don't be afraid to go to the person and ask for forgiveness, because God's healing you and he's gonna heal the other person too. If you truly trust Him and you go with God, it's an amaz...

May 22, 202333 min

Adult Children Of Sex Addicts (with Dr. Ken Adams)

What happens when you grow up in a family affected by sexual addiction? In this episode, Dr. Ken Adams reveals the burdens carried by adult children of sex addicts. This conversation is especially helpful for those of us who inherited sexual shame from our parents. You'll learn why and how to release shame that has been passed down to you...and how to stop the cycle of generational trauma. Dr. Ken Adams is a world-renowned therapist and expert on sexual addiction, shame, and enmeshment. Learn mo...

May 15, 202336 min

Three Keys To Becoming Husband Material

What does it mean to become husband material? In this episode, you'll learn the importance of self-awareness, self-compassion, and self-leadership. Stay until the end for special appearances by 12 Husband Material Men! New opportunities: HMA is reopening in July. Join the waitlist at joinhma.com Come to our retreat in Santa Barbara in September! Register now at husbandmaterial.com/retreat What are you doing this Saturday? Come to our free workshop! Register now for HMA In A Day at husbandmateria...

May 08, 202314 min

Introduction To Outgrowing Porn (wth Dr. Robert Masters)

What does it mean to outgrow porn? Dr. Robert Masters unpacks this concept (which he created) with stunning depth and clarity. Robert Augustus Masters is a psychotherapist, group leader, and relationship expert with a doctorate in psychology. His intuitive, uniquely integral work, developed over the past four decades, blends the psychological and physical with the emotional and spiritual. Learn more at robertmasters.com . Buy Robert's books (these are paid links): To Be a Man: A Guide To True Ma...

May 01, 202329 min

Emotional Abuse (with Dr. Jake Porter)

What is emotional abuse? Dr. Jake Porter explains how to identify emotional abuse, heal from it, and stop emotionally abusing others. Dr. Jake Porter is a Board Certified Counselor, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, APSATS Certified Clinical Partner Specialist, and the Founder of Daring Ventures . He is also the creator of Couple–Centered Recovery, a model for overcoming attachment wounds in couples experiencing the trauma of betrayal. Connect with Jake at drjakeporter.com What are you doing th...

Apr 24, 202338 min

Directing Sexual Energy In Singleness

What do I do with my sexual energy—especially if I'm single? In this episode, you'll learn the two types of sexual energy, why singleness can feel like a curse, and God’s good design for sexuality in singleness. You'll also hear real life examples of Christian men directing their sexual energy into deeper connection, pleasure, and creativity. Resources mentioned in this episode: God & Sex ( sermon series from Reality San Fransisco featuring Dave Lomas) Finding Intimacy And Community As A Cel...

Apr 17, 202336 min

How To Use The Body To Outgrow Porn (with Andrew Bauman)

In this episode, you'll learn why healing must happen in your body. Andrew Bauman reveals why talk therapy is not enough, what "the body keeps the score" actually means, how to use the body to outgrow porn and real-life examples of embodied healing. This interview is awesome! Andrew Bauman is the founder & director of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health & Trauma (CCC) . Andrew is an author and licensed mental health counselor with a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology ...

Apr 10, 202325 min
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