Solving for False Negatives in Hiring with Arthur Matuszewski

Today we're excited to introduce you to an episode of 10x Recruiting, a podcast from Metaview hosted by our very own Nolan Church. 10x Recruiting is focused on conversations with top talent leaders to help listeners build world-class teams and stay ahead in the evolving recruiting landscape.

Today's guest is Arthur Matuszewski, who shares insights from his diverse career at Bridgewater, Better.com, and his firm Carrara. He emphasizes intellectual honesty, focusing on work outputs rather than titles, and avoiding false negatives in hiring. Nolan says he's one of the most insightful guests ever.

Matuszewski advocates for evaluating talent based on actual value creation rather than pedigree, and stresses the importance of adapting recruitment strategies to each org's unique context rather than relying on standardized playbooks.

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LINKS:

Arthur’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthurmatuszewski/

Carrara: https://www.carrara.is/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:53) Episode preview

(05:51) Arthur's career journey overview

(07:53) Lessons learned at Bridgewater

(10:41) Recruiting for teams vs individuals

(12:35) Bridgewater's culture of experimentation

(16:47) High attrition rate and false negatives

(23:22) Better.com's rise and viral moment

(28:02) Defining intellectual honesty

(30:08) Carrara and focusing on the work

(37:56) Balancing productivity with thinking time

(40:03) Avoiding sunk costs in talent decisions

(43:31) Carrara's process for delivering winners

(45:43) Showing founders what the market is saying

(47:19) Internal vs external talent perspectives

(51:58) Wrap

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