¶ Jaded Health and Weight Loss Tips
Hey , David , welcome to the show .
Hi Rob . Thanks for having me as a guest today .
I'm so interested in talking about your new book , which is coming out soon , called Jaded Health , and a lot of the views resonate with things that I'm very interested in , so I'm looking forward to diving into it . So maybe you start out , david , why did you write this book ? What provoked you to do it ?
Well , my story basically is when I was in my 20s and 30s , I was fit and trim . However , like most people , life gets in the way with work obligations and family responsibilities . I stopped exercising , I started eating more convenient foods and fast foods and , before I realized it , the weight crept up on me . I had my wake-up call in July of 2016 .
That's when my doctor told me , based on my lab results and the fact that I was fat I was 225 pounds . I had a 95% chance for a fatal heart attack . That was my wake-up call . So he gave me two options . He said you can lose weight or find a new doctor , and he'd been after me for eight years to lose the weight .
And if I did lose weight on a diet , I gained it all back , sometimes even more . I was frustrated , I was embarrassed . This time , the light bulb went off and during the next four months , I shed 50 pounds , which was 25% of my total body weight .
More importantly , I've kept the weight off and then , a couple of years later , in June of 2022 , at age 67 , I hiked up Mount Kilimanjaro . So when I talk to people about longevity and living a healthy lifestyle and weight loss , I don't let age be a factor .
Absolutely . Yeah , that's such an important point . Well , your story is fascinating . Like so many of the people I talked to , you sort of had a wake-up call in that rough time range around 40 that things start happening , and I'm curious . You said you tried diets before and the weight went off . Then it came back .
You tried diets before and the weight went off , and then it came back . What did you do differently , or what was the inspiration that allowed you to be successful ?
I changed my lifestyle . I went back and started reading the books I had from the 1970s . I kept them all by Paul and Patricia Bragg , jack LaLanne , richard Simmons and William Dufty's Sugar Blues and I realized they were talking about basic concepts , things we all know what to do . We just don't do them .
Then I started reading books from current authors and I realized they were talking about their products , their programs , their services , and it made it sound like if you didn't invest in their specific product or services , that you would fail , and I thought something's wrong here .
So I started writing books Jaded Health is actually the fifth book , because I always want to improve and make it easier to communicate with people , and that's how that came about is I found short fables and stories and parables with life lessons , and then I took those and applied it to eating healthy and live in a healthy lifestyle .
So what was the of the lifestyle ? And I know you go into this in your book , but maybe you could share what's the most important thing that really moved the needle for you , or really that you didn't realize before .
To drink more pure water , and when I say pure water , I mean either distilled water , high quality spring water or reverse osmosis through a six-stage filtering process . And the reason I say that is Paul Bragg will advocate to drink distilled water , his student , jack LaLanne , will advocate to drink spring water , and then my mentor , dr David Friedman .
He advocates a reverse osmosis , six-stage filter . So you have three different experts saying three different things . So who or what do you trust and believe ? So I let other people decide what is best for them .
And so you're saying that tap water in the United States . You're not happy with that , then Is that ?
right , Absolutely correct , In my opinion . It's dangerous to drink just tap water . There's a couple places you can get some data that shows that there's a lot of toxins in there . The toxin that was in Aaron Brockovich movie they found is in all 50 states through municipal water . So the six-stage reverse osmosis will remove that .
Yeah , I guess some of those so-called forever chemicals have just been in the news , with the FDA at least setting some for the first time , some low numbers for them . But many people are saying it's not enough and they're not doing enough to restrict those .
Well , here's the problem with their ratings . My neighbor next door may drink two or three glasses of water a day , so for him it may be perfectly safe . Someone like me who's drinking 10 glasses of water now ? The toxins are a high level . That's unhealthy and that's where it is .
And that's why I say water's the most important thing , because our bodies , as you know , are 60 to 70% water and we're not made of soda or diet soda or fruit juices or milk . It's water . 72% of the US adult population is overweight , of which 42% are clinically obese . There's a direct correlation between not being properly hydrated and being overweight .
A lot of times , what happens when we think we're thirsty I mean we're hungry , we're actually thirsty and if you think of it this way , a person can go about maybe 30 , 40 days without food , but only about three or four days without water .
That's a great point . So what are the things we have to worry about in the water ? I mean , you mentioned the strategies of reverse osmosis and all , so the forever chemicals . Is that the main thing , or are there other things also ?
that's the main thing , and also the plastic bottles . They're finding that people who are they're doing autopsies are finding plastic in in their systems and that's coming from the plastic bottles and other plastic containers .
A lot of our food today is highly processed , ultra processed or manufactured , and when I was growing up , it wasn't like that , and so what happens is a lot of it is toxic and it won't kill you right away . However , it accumulates over the years and that's why after 10 , 15 , 20 years , people start developing these chronical illnesses heart disease , cancers .
20 years , people start developing these chronical , you know illnesses heart disease , cancers , type 2 diabetes . I read somewhere that if you're over 50 , there's an 80% probability you're a type 2 diabetic or pre-diabetic , and if you're a pre-diabetic and do not change your lifestyle and eating habits , you'll be a full-blown type 2 diabetic within seven years .
And eating habits you'll be a full-blown type 2 diabetic within seven years . So type 2 diabetes , no-transcript .
And just before we leave the water . So just to be clear then what you're saying buying bottle water if it's in a plastic bottle is problematic also , right ?
Correct . So I use reverse osmosis for the water that I drink , and then I have a glass container that I refill or a stainless steel to refill .
I refill it , or a stainless steel to refill . What if I , if I , I mean restaurants are problematic for all sorts of reasons . You know , because they , you know it's like the saying goes it can be delicious , affordable or healthy . Pick two . So you know , I try to limit my restaurants for that reason anyway . But when we go to a restaurant , what do you do ?
When you ask for water , bottle water will come in plastic , right , or what are the choices there ?
Well , a lot of times , Pellegrino will come in plastic . I always usually ask for water with no ice and a slice of lemon , and usually their water is filtered through a filtering system okay .
Okay , so that it's a thought , so filtered . Or or ask specifically for a brand that comes in , you know , comes in a glass bottle , like pellegrino perhaps , or some other brands , boss b-o-S-S comes in a glass container .
Some of it is in plastic , some is in glass .
Oh , that's good . Yeah , good to know . So you mentioned type 2 diabetes . So we're having a world epidemic with type 2 diabetes . Even adjusted for population , there are more cases than have ever been seen before , which tells us that it's probably not a genetic disease , because our genes aren't changing , but more and more people are getting type 2 diabetes .
Now you're saying that with increasing age , our risk for diabetes increases . Right , Is that ?
Because of the lifestyles and eating habits and what we're putting into our bodies , formulations for food has been significantly altered since the 1980s .
Howard Moskowitz worked in the food industry for over 30 years and he coined a term called bliss point , and what it means is it's scientifically engineered food to optimize our cravings for fat , salt , texture and sugars , so it becomes addicting . So my downfall was Pringles potato chips .
I go through a large container of Pringles potato chips and then still crave more , and so they make the food so that you become a food junkie . Oreo cookies are more addicting than cocaine .
It's the sugar , and the original formula for Gatorade has been adulterated so much that it's not the same as what it was back when it first came out in the 1970s was back when it first came out in the 1970s .
Again , if you look at the ingredients on cereals that were in the 60s and 70s , they're a lot different than the same cereal today because of all the chemicals . They're using the high fructose corn syrup . They're using other preservatives for shelf life .
You can buy a loaf of bread , put it in your pantry for six months , take it out and it'll still look as fresh as the day you bought it .
So again , it's all those chemicals and preservatives they're putting in that are toxic to your body and people think , oh , I'm eating healthy if they get a whole grain bread or a bread that is marketed as being healthy .
Yeah , I mean , it seems like there's something happened in the 1980s that triggered this whole thing , with obesity , diabetes , alzheimer's everything is just going through the roof , and many people agree that junk food is a big factor on it . But the problem is , everyone has a different , different definition of what junk food is . So what ?
What do you consider to be , uh , junk food or unhealthy foods ?
wow , most of the food out there now . Um , I was reading a book Ultra Processed People by Chris Van Tulleken , and the tagline is the science behind food . That isn't food , If you think about it . In the 1990s , the average grocery store had about 15,000 products . Over the years's grown , today it's over 62,000 products .
Now I don't know about you , Rob , I have not heard of that many new fruits , vegetables , berries or nuts being discovered in that time .
And what it is is all the different flavored cereals , different flavored sodas , the different flavored spaghetti sauces Howard Moskowitz was involved with the different creations of Prego spaghetti sauce and the different Campbell soups that were created . So again , when I was growing up , a lot of it wasn't around . Starbucks didn't exist , McDonald's was a treat .
It wasn't where you can go every day and there .
¶ Health Transformation Strategies
So if , if I , if I wanted to change my life and and do what you've done , what is the , what's the first step I should do in the process ? What I'll buy your book and read it so that the nine simple golden rules .
I'm happy . That'd be great . Be great , yeah , as I said , the first one is to drink more pure water . The second one is to avoid the processed , highly processed , ultra processed and manufactured foods . There was a commercial in the 1970s by chiff Margin with Dina Hendrick .
She was an actress who played Mother Nature and her tagline was it's not nice to fool Mother Nature . Perhaps we should heed the warning , because now there's all this imitation meat , imitation chicken , and it's better to eat the real meat and the real chicken than this plant-based imitation .
When I was talking to Ocean Robbins , I was asking the difference between plant-based diets and he corrected me . He says no , I don't recommend plant-based , I recommend whole plant-based . There's a difference . So when you think of it that way , it makes sense .
And people don't read labels , so they need to read the labels to see what they're actually putting in their bodies . The second thing , or the third golden rule , is to eat real , whole , holistic foods . Eat an apple , eat a pear , eat a plum , cherries , berries , raw unsalted nuts .
I avoid chicken now because of what they've done to the chickens , and it's not so much the food we're eating now , it's what they've done to the food . So if you look at a picture of a chicken the size of one in the 1940s and compare it to today's size chickens , the chickens today are about four times the size of what they were back in the 1940s .
And it's because because the engineering they're doing to them to make them bigger , make more profit . So eat the real , whole , holistic foods . Avoid orange juice . In my opinion it's the worst stuff you can put in your body . People think it's healthy . It's like no , it takes four to eight medium oranges to make a glass of orange juice .
Are you going to eat all that sugar at one , you know ? Are you going to eat 48 oranges at one sitting ? Well , no , but that's how much sugar you're putting in body with one glass of orange juice . So little things like that . Golden rule number four is to eat slow . We're all in a hurry , we all rush , so we're eating . I call it mindless eating .
We're eating at our desk or in front of our computers , or while we're driving or watching TV . We all rush , so we're eating . I call it mindless eating . We're eating at our desk or in front of our computers , or while we're driving or watching TV . We look down and the sandwich is gone .
If we're eating at our desk , or whatever we're eating , the snacks are gone . We're watching TV . Well , you ate it off without realizing it , so you need to pay attention . Mark David wrote a book called the Slowdown Diet and in there he advocates if you take five minutes for breakfast , give yourself 10 . No-transcript . The other thing is to .
Golden rule number five is to eat smaller portions . Our portion sizes have been supersized without us realizing it . In the 1900s the average size dinner plate was nine inches in diameter . Today it's 12 inches , and at restaurants it can be 13 to 15 inches for a serving platter .
Yet in Europe , except for the UK , the average size dinner plate is still nine inches in diameter . So what I advocate to people and suggest is they use a salad size plate instead of a dinner size plate .
Because if you put the same amount of food on a dinner size plate as on a salad plate , the food on the dinner plate will look like there's a lot less and the food on the salad plate will look like there's a lot more . It's an optical illusion , it's called the Delbo illusion , so it's little things like that .
And then golden rule number six is to get adequate sleep .
Based on what I've researched and studied , it's minimum seven to eight hours of quality sleep each night , and my understanding is a person who does not get adequate sleep will consume an extra 500 calories the next day for energy , and that's why the energy drinks industry is booming because people are tired .
So there's ways that they want to stay awake , which is dangerous , in my opinion . Golden rule number seven I call it rest to digest . It's an intermittent fast and you talk about intermittent fasting a lot and everybody has a different opinion . Some people say , you know , 16 hours , 18 hours .
What I advocate is something that most people can do and are doing without realizing it . It's 12 hours . So if you stop eating three hours before you go to sleep and you get seven to eight hours of quality sleep in your first meal to break the fast not breakfast , but to break the fast there's a difference then that's 12 hours .
Well , that's an intermittent fast . And then golden rule number eight is to think positive . 80% of our thoughts are negative , so imagine if we changed it to be 80% positive . And then golden rule number nine is to walk every day . Rebel Wilson lost 70 pounds walking an hour each day in over a year .
Now I realize not everybody can spend an hour each day to walk . However , mindy Kaling also lost weight and what she did is when she had a 10 or 15 minute break . Instead of going on social media or texting friends , she'd go for a 10 or 15 minute walk . Well , if you do that four or five times throughout the day , you're getting 40 minutes to an hour .
So walking is one of the most underrated physical activities we can do and it's free .
Those are great , great ideas , and why is there such resistance to this ? I mean , these are great things to do . Why don't more people do them ? Is it just not aware of them ? What sort of pushback do you get when you suggest these for people ?
Well , I always give the nine golden rules out to people and they're like well , I know that . And my comeback is I understand , you know it , are you doing it ? And their response is no . Then the question is well , if you know what to do , why aren't you doing it ? And it's not so much what we can do , it's what we will do , and that's the difference .
The other thing is there's a lot of deceptive marketing out there by the food industry , big pharma and the weight loss , diet and weight loss industries . So people aren't aware of the deceptions that they're being put upon them , so they think they may be eating a healthy snack bar . I have a lot of clients that will ask me hey , I found this snack bar .
What do you think of it ? I said what's the ingredients ? Well , it says I got this much protein , no sugar , blah , blah , blah . I said what are the ingredients ? I don't know . So then they send me the ingredients . I look at it . I don't know . So then they send me the ingredients . I look at it and most of it's garbage .
I tell them it's poison , it's not healthy . You need to read the ingredients . They put the ingredients in very , very small fine print and people don't read the nutritional fact panels accurately . They look at the calories which are in big , bold letters . They look at , maybe , the protein , the sodiums . Very few may even look at a serving size .
Sometimes those packaged cookies it'll be you know two or three servings per cookie and before you know whole cookie , thinking , oh , it's only you know two or three hundred calories . No , it's 600 to 800 calories . Again , it's the manipulation being put upon us . There's a term I describe in the book called zonerism , and it's a 14-year-old .
Nathan Zoner did a science fair project and he used scientifically proven facts but he manipulated them to give a false outcome . And so he's talking about dihydrogen monoxide and after he did a science fair presentation , his class voted that this substance should be banned .
Well , dihydrogen monoxide is nothing but H2O , which is water , and it was a term Zahnerism coined by a journalist who came across this science project . Because science project ? Because he was fascinated how the public could be manipulated .
Yeah , yeah . Well , so people , they get your book , they read it , but they need help like implementing them . What would you recommend ? Do you have programs that that are coaching programs or assistance , or can you recommend any ? What can they do if they want to go beyond what your book says and need help implementing it themselves ?
Well , the first thing I would say is the book has a lot of , as I said , parables and fables and short stories , so I did my best to communicate in an entertaining way the information , and I did my best to keep it simple .
The other thing is once they , you know , read the book , not only do I tell them what to do , but it's also how to start implementing these . They can also then get the daily journal . It's a 91-day daily journal and they can keep track and follow along if they want to do it themselves .
And they find that if you start recording and keeping track there's a 91-day daily journal and they can keep track and follow along if they want to do it themselves . And they find that if you start recording and keeping track , there's a higher probability of success . And again , I advocate a lifestyle . It's not a diet .
This is for changes so that you create new habits , and the habits are something you do without thinking , such as brushing our teeth every day or whatever we do , we do it automatically . So that's where it comes in . Differently , a diet is temporary , it's extreme , it's hard to stick with and potentially dangerous to our health .
That's why 90% of people who lose weight on a diet like I did , gained it all back and sometimes more , because then we revert to our old eating habits . So I teach ways in the book to create new habits where you are focusing on what you enjoy . That's healthy and not focusing on what you want to have . That's unhealthy for you .
The other thing they can do is they can reach out to me and I can keep them accountable through coaching , and they find that people who are accountable or have an accountability buddy or partner 90% success rate , and so if they don't want to reach out to me , they can reach out to a friend , and it doesn't even have to be someone who's on a weight loss
journey , just someone you have to report to . The example I give is if you're going to hire a trainer at the gym , you're going to show up because , number one , you don't want to disappoint the trainer and , number two , you're paying for him .
Well , the difference is if you're not hiring a trainer to go help you at the gym , but you're going to go to the gym every day , you start playing mind games with yourself and make excuses oh , I'm tired , I'll do it tomorrow or whatever . We procrastinate and you're not accountable to anybody . So , therefore , you can find a reason not to do it .
Yeah , no , totally . That makes great sense . Well , this is the book Jaded Health . It's not going to look like this . This is a preprint copy , but I recommend it highly for people who want to transform their health , like David did here . And David , how can people find you in social media and what's your website ? Maybe just tell them on the air .
We'll put it in the show notes as well .
Thank you . They can email me at davidmadansky at gmailcom . My first and last name , my last name , is spelled M-E-D-A-N-S-K-Y Like three words me , dan and Sky Just make it sound Polish . And they can also find me on LinkedIn and Facebook and other social media platforms under David Madansky .
And also they can check me out at jadedhealthorg and they can check out the streaming TV series that we're doing Jaded Health at jadedhealthtv .
And now the TV series . I forgot to mention that the season one and two are already out , correct , that right . And then season three is in progress , correct , so they can go . You can go to it now and and see , see the two seasons worth of episodes on that , well , so I recommend that also . Thank you , I appreciate that . Well .
Thanks so much for spending time with us today , david . I really appreciate the book I book . I think it can help a lot of people , and thank you so much for doing what you do .
Thank you , I appreciate the opportunity , rob .
