OK, let's do this all. Right, we're going Will. We had a mildly successful video go out a couple weeks ago. It's been very fun to watch people kind of check out the scoring method. What? What do you think? It's fantastic, obviously amazing. Just love the comments, love the feedback. I love, you know, yeah, I I personally love the sort of the negative comments because I think they come out of not full fully understanding, right.
I mean, we had, we want to make a little 20 minute quick crash course. And so I think so many of the answers that we've got for today are to help people to understand there's a bigger pitch to the scoring method. But yes, there's a whole 4 hour training course and you know, go and get coaching from a coach to learn how to use it. So I think it's gonna be a lot of fun for us to get taught today. Yeah, I mean, I've known about
the scoring method. Well, we know I've known each other for 10 plus years and yeah, you've had the scoring method for for that long. And so I've always known about it's great. Like I always like teach my teach my buddies and stuff as we go. Like, Hey, this is kind of how to change your, your thinking. And it's like, it's great. So it's super fun to be able to share that with tons and tons of people.
I'm so glad that like the words getting out and I want to start with something that's getting out is this comment. And I have a comment pulled up here. This is an important one to start with. It's the guy hits everything straight, high and long. How on earth can he demonstrate the point? Yeah, exactly. That's your fault. That is your fault. Everybody.
That is Cody Walker's fault because he is the content creator and I got to go and spend a day with him in Minnesota and the guy stripes it too good. But here's what I will tell you a little story about. Okay. Is that when Courtney plays in tournaments the week afterwards and he doesn't get committed to his golf shot and his tension gets a little bit high, he makes big numbers and doesn't use the scoring method and shoots like an 80 3/4/84? I don't know.
Yeah, he just. Remember, the point being is look, I completely understand everybody. I can't wait if you if you go to scoringmethod.com, sorry, scoring method YouTube channel, it's all amateur golfers, right? All high handicappers, but a yes, if you've got a guy who's striping it, but that's why we went through the Gears of the game. We wanted to show you for that next level because the other complaint we get Cordy is well, this is great for low handicap for high handicap golfers, but
not me a three handicap. I might know it's it's perfect for you because Cordy, when you play tournaments, you can't lose a golf ball or you'll make a triple. And what we need to do is reduce it down to a bogey. So I think that yes, I think we should go and make some content together. Cordy, let's do another another, you know, 20 minute crash course, but scoring method now want someone who's shopping it up? You know what I mean? Someone who's hitting it all
over the place, yes. OK, Let's get into some of the questions that people have because there are a lot of great questions and that's what I want to talk about is kind of like some assumptions that people have. And this is like a classic one that I see. This is from Stewartie Boy 83 O1. Also, usernames are fantastic, I don't know if you know that or not. But. Holy cow, do we have some great usernames in here. I've never understood when people say keep it in play as if
I have a choice in the matter. I'm not deliberately smacking it into the trees. And I think this is kind of like what a lot of people feel like is like, oh, the scoring math is a great idea. Like keep the ball in play. I love that idea, but will I can't keep it in play. I suck. You should see my slight right? If it's then right? That that is the thing, right? It's like Will, I can't do it. And so no, I completely get that. But here's what it says.
You said smack it into the junk. So most people scoring IQ is very low. If we went skiing, you wouldn't go. I'm a man, I'm going to a double black diamond. You'd go, where's the Bunny run? Where's the Bunny runner? Where's the green runner? Where's the blue run? You'd learn and earn your way into skiing and golf. You can go wherever you want. So my challenge to all of you would be is like, listen, take out a 7 iron. There's a ton of loft on it.
And if there's a lot of loft, the spin will be back spin, not right to left spin and put it in play because remember you've got a three 180 yard par 4. We've actually only got to go 280 yards to get into the scoring zone. So you could hit 79 and 7 iron. And to the concept there is not. So you play 7 iron for the rest of your life. That's boring. You're not going to do that. But at least you have first gear, which is I can get my 7
iron in play. Man. You need to go to the range and work on hitting A4 hybrid in a 20 yard gap and try and put that in play 8 out of 10 times. And until it it's tested and proven, don't take it out on the golf course. Yeah. So you bring up one of the points that no, but we didn't talk about video and that probably a lot of people aren't thinking about is that the scoring method is a great way to learn what you need to train and not just guess how to practice.
So what you kind of describe there is like a little bit of like, OK, we are going to start at level 0 and you're going to create a training plan. And if you're able to do that, then you can move on. But if you're not, then you actually need to develop some skills so that you can play the game of golf right? Exactly. Exactly. So the whole concept behind the scoring method is, is play easy, train hard, hard. What most people do is practice easy 50 balls.
It just hit, hit, hit, go on the golf course, don't mess up, right? Tension comes in, they play poorly. So what we're trying to say is what we want you to do is you come off the golf course and go, hey, I didn't get into the scoring zone 7 times out of eight or let's just do no helps. I didn't get 3 out of times, but then down in three, I only did it 3.
So it's six times. Well, then you should actually go to short game, whereas the other guy who got 8 down in threes and you know, 5 not into this point should then go practice that. So it's going to build your purpose or practice plan, right? That's the cool part. And then what what you're going to do is instead of going to technique, you're going to test. So I believe the drills, OK, create skills. But if you want skills to transfer onto the golf course, you got to test them.
So you're now going to say add a 10 from 4 feet in a circle. How can I make that a 10/4? Now don't go and work on technique. Try and get 5, then six, then seven. Get back into playing the game and learning how you best compete under pressure and then take that to the golf course. So do you have players when you go teach the score method, which would be like this this guy here 18 handicap. I already play this way and I still double and triple all day long.
I can't execute simple shots 40% of the time. Like, I'm sure you've worked with players like that who are. Struggling to work with, I mean, like, it's fine because I think most golf pros, like I want to work with the tour player might know. I want to work with people that desperately want to get better at golf that are super frustrated because they can play other sports, they can do other things in life and golf is difficult. So yeah, what I would do is say that we've got to benchmark your
game. So there's, you know, the parts that we're going to look at is this short putting, all right? Then there's lag or long putting, shipping from around the green, pitching the ball and advancing the ball, right. So those are really the five basics of level 1. So if we could get you A6 hybrid that you love and that you could get it out there 125 yards, you know, well, I can only do it 4 out of 10 times. I would say try and get it 5 out of 10 times. But how, I don't know if it
slices, aim left, do whatever. You can just compete at the game. Because what most of us do is you wouldn't take your child and be like, hey, you've got to put your right elbow in and you've got to release like this to throat. No, they're throwing underarm and they're getting two in a row and then they scream 10 minutes like dad, dad, dad, come out. What happened? I've got eight in a row because they're using the athletic ability. I call it emotional muscle.
They're building up that like, I'm just going to get it in the hole. So I would test each area of your game and if and if the best you've got is 4 out of 10 from 4 feet, see if we get to 7 out of 10 this week. And then what you'll find is you'll find your way of doing it. A lot of golf pros will have a longer stroke straight back and straight through with the closing and opening for OK, I can't do that. But if I stand over and I just stab at it, I can make like 9
out of 10 almost every time. Well, that's how you should play then that that's your way of playing it. Think of Will Zala Torres, think about Bobby Locke, think about Jack Nicklaus. They all found their way of doing it. So that's really you got to start bench marking testing. So those skills will transfer to
the golf. Course so all the people that commented something the long lines of the scorecard suddenly keep me from topping the ball none of the supplies to golf through like ball control the concept would be like well obviously you need to do some training then right like. Yeah, but I think I think what most people do right is they get on the golf course. I would I literally just finished a playing lesson, which is why I'm late to this podcast.
And they'll top it off that I'm with Rob today. Let's just talk about players today that did this. I'll give two holes for Rob. Slices were 9 miles, right? I mean, just 9 miles light with his drive, right? He's been working on a drawer miles night pitches one down short of the green right in the trees wedges on 15 feet and
makes the putt. Now he should have missed the putt realistically, but it would have been a tap in bogey and it's like but if you saw his tee shot you watch on my driver. What did I do wrong I got to work on it No just find it put it inside of 100 chip it on the green too. So what most of us do we kind of go to the problem is Oh my swings wrong versus you're on a golf course in a tournament like get over it. You got to figure out a way to
get the ball in the hole. None of us have been taught that grit and that determination to keep going. I had another one of the guys topped it off the T box, literally topped it as it went down the fairway, hit a second, one down the par five, third one down the par five, fourth onto the green. Just Mr. Papa tapped it in for bogey. That's what we're trying to say is don't just screen to technique. You're going to top it, you're going to slice it, you're going
to hit shots. But over time, if you focus more on getting to the scoring zone, game one, Game 2, getting down in three, it'll really start to show you how to play under pressure and start to show you how to train. What about that? Those 100 yard shots, right? So one of the ideas is you got to get inside 100 yards. Some people were commenting like, oh, man, like partial wedge shots are the worst. Yeah, right. I can barely hit the green from from 100 yards.
Like, yeah, talk to those people. Yeah, completely. So I'm gonna go back a little bit. What I would start with is lag pudding. You've got to work on your long putts because you could then hit a badge shot to 60 feet off the fringe of the green, tap it up there to three feet and tap it in. So the most important thing you got to start with is the long putts because that's going to teach you face control, missing it left, missing it right, and
distance control. I would then have you chipping around the green with a hybrid because now you're not using loft, you're not scooping underneath it. But at a certain point, like you said, you got to start to learn how to pitch. So I would try and break it up into 255075 and 100. And for some of you, about 100 is at any time for me, OK, For you it's 25 and 50. 75 is a pitching wedge. But for most of us, 251575 we could doing that with a pitching wedge or a sandwich.
So I would then gauge a position on the clock, right? So I'm going to go back to my hip and I'm going to hit down on the ball. What do most of us do? We lean back and try and scoop. No, the best way is to send the club down and the ball will go up. So there's great videos you can watch online. I mean, who's my favorite short game coach? Who's the guy that does the guy in England with the three releases? Dan Dan Grieve. Dan Grieve, watch some of that stuff.
But then all I want is a 25 hit 10 with that A50 on the clock system and a full one goes 75. So I want you to get big numbers that you can go. That's 75. So if it's 65, we'll do a little less than that or a bit more than 50. So I would want three positions. They're going to get you 25 and that might be for you a half lob wedge or a half sand wedge or 1/3 of a pitching wedge. But you've got to get on the range and focus on two things, 255075, right? That is the wedge area, right?
And then a go to club. What can I advance down the fairway 10 times off the tee box hybrids. It's such a great club to use, right? So most of us go and work on 7 lines trying to hit a draw, trying to fix our swing rather than can I put 9 out of 10 balls onto that green at 50 yards, one one out of 10, cool, let's do another 10. Can you get 2? And you then start to learn how to really compete and play the
game. And I've been doing this for 20 years, and you'll be amazed how people start to play better golf just by purely starting to play it more like a computer game and beat the game than trying to be perfect. Tons of great comments too. Will I? I mean, they're going to land on one here which will give you a good talking point, but we we had one just yesterday pop in.
It seems like I've been a 11:50 handicap of the decision making of a 25 handicap after putting this method into use of shot in 84 with no mulligans or breakfast balls. Believe this method is meant to help good golfers of terrible course management, but also teach new and upcoming golfers what they need to actually practice. That's good. It's good. Yeah, did he say he's a 12 with a 25 scoring? I don't know, he says. It seems like he's, he said.
It seems like I've been to a 10 to 12 handicap with the decision making of a 25. Handicap. So think about what a lot of the new things are doing right. In the old days, it was just data. It was like, hey, you hit this many greens, you hit this many fairways, Did it really help you?
What we're trying to say is my Arcos might tell you you're A7 handicap putting and you're a 22 handicap, but which is the one that's going to tell you the reason why you're a 22 handicap with your ball striking is because you're a terrible decision maker. Because you took not enough club aimed at a flag by a lake, missed it just to the right, hit it in the water, made a quad. Or if you'd to take an extra club and aimed long left and missed it short right, you'd be
right by the flag stick. So, so much of what I'm doing, my players on the course this morning is guys, here's the quadrant. Where can you absolutely not go? Short, right. There's a bunker. Where can you also not go? Well, long right's not too bad, but anywhere on the left is fine. Well, it's short. Better or long. Probably long, actually. OK, so don't aim at the flag. Put a flag back left to the green and smash it there. Oh, you missed it. Short, right.
Oh, you buy the flagstick. You're a genius. So, like, golf is about misses. Golf is not a game of perfect Barbra Teller, Right. It's all about helping people to start to realize that if they're become better caddies, So many of it. You're listening. I went to Scotland and the guy just freaking shoved me a club. No, this is what you're hitting. You didn't go. I'd like a driver. He's like, oh, you're not man. And he just hands it to you and you hit that club.
That's what we've got to get you better at is better decision making, better strategy. And this is how again, and we get players to go from 25 to 12 with very little technique because they're like, they had the ability of a 12 handicap. They just had the scoring strategy of a 25 handicap, which is me, and they played to a 19 or a 20, you know.
Speaking of catting, we I should have had you on before the Walker Cup at Cyprus because I we should have done a Cypress, a Cypress episode with you because that would have been fun. Tell them we got to tell. I don't know if you've ever told the story on a podcast, but tell your 18 hole caddy. Yeah, so, so how how did I really come up with this method?
The concept behind it was I caddied at Cypress Point in college and all I knew was every caddy out there and so many of my love, there are some great friends of mine that are there that are great people. They knew every sprinkle head, every single number on the golf course. I remembered none. But what I knew how to do was just basically kind of like generally tell people how to like, look, hit a five line. It's playing a lot longer than 150. It isn't.
It's 1:50, but you don't and hit A5 on 150. So they would, they would lay hit A5 on and be pin high and go, wow, that played a long way. Well, that's all good. When you're playing, you're doing this and it's you know, it's non members who there's 8 unaccompanied per day on on a weekdays that can come on the course, it's fine.
But when it's the club championship and it's the final round of the club championship and you're playing for you're carrying for one of the members and you know he has a 2 stroke stroke lead and I'm 18. There's a very famous shot that Ben Hogan played in the match where he hit it between the trees at Cypress trees. And he has that shot and he looks at you and says, well, give me the five on. And I'm like, this is this is going to be difficult.
Here's putter, he's 165 yards out and I'm like, putter's the play. And he's like, what the heck, what are you talking about? I'm like to Francis, you're going to put it to right there, like I'm going to stand over there and you're going to put it to me sideways and you're going to put it because I know if he goes through the trees, he's going to hit the trees, bounce around and the trees he's going
to come out. He's going to lose the club championship and to be the club champion at Cyprus Point is why I would think a pretty amazing thing to talk about when you're back in New York and doing the things you do in life around some pretty impressive people. So he puts it out to my feet. He then hits a beautiful wedge and flushes this thing straight over the flagstick. So now we've got a 20 foot downhill, the fastest putt you can imagine.
All I needed to do was have with him slightly hit miss at the pitching wedge and would have been pinned high. He flushed it. We had a beautiful part of all six foot by and I'm thinking if he misses this part and he has to tell somebody, his gaddy told him to putt on the last hole, I'm in big trouble. He's still going to play off
though. He made the party, won the club championship and it was just awesome because it was like I knew 2 out of 10 he could have got through that tree, but they would have probably run over the back of the green or gone in the bunk, would have made double anyway. But I knew he was a low handicap golfer. I knew he could get, if I had him at about 140 yards up the hill or about 1:35, he could hit wedge up onto the green.
I think maybe it was a nine anchors uphill, but I knew I could get him out of there and he won the club championship. But that's where I really learned this is that I carried so many rounds for people who are the best golf course in the world and I knew that they were in try their hardest and play terrible. So what did I do? I got them into the right emotional state and I avoided
trouble. I gave them great green reads and I helped them to go ahead and take clubs that they wouldn't normally take because they think they hit it too far. And I would take the trouble out of play by getting them away from that trouble. And it worked pretty well for me. That's. That's one of my favorite stories. You can't retell that enough. In my opinion, It's a good one. OK, I think you should do the scoring method takes on Cyprus.
Just just a thought. I'll throw it out there, but anyway, OK, well, that leads really well into this next comment I wanted to talk about. Just shot of 78 this morning, breaking 80 for the first time in ages. And the last sentence is the part that you're going to love takes the pressure off, right? Yeah, right, people who've look at this never gone for a lesson using the scoring method. Watched a 20 minute video and I haven't broken 18 ages and I bet who we talking to? Who is it?
Speedy ones, please never know. Dreadlocks I don't. Know you just dreadlocks OK I bet you've been working on your game working on your technique, grinding and that hasn't been working so here's The thing is everybody this is really important not that good a coach OK you can put that I'm not that good a coach think of it this way you're driving a really nice car you're driving a Mercedes 500 series 300 series, say or nice BMW and I and you I need a driving lesson.
I get in the car and I see that you have the handbrake on and you're driving looking in the rearview mirror and like, you know what, Like if you take that handbrake off, like the smoke and everything out the back and the noise is going to go away. That's called tension. When we take the tension off, you're going to get freed up and you're going to start to swing And like this little thing up here.
If you look through the big thing here, like what's in front of you, your target and how you can play golf instead of what I did last week or what I did last month or what I've been working on the driving range, you're going to do a lot better. Now if you took that lesson, you started driving you and people wouldn't say we're, you're a genius driving instructor. You'd be like, no, nobody just ever showed you your handbrake was on and you were looking through the through the front
window. If I took someone who was driving a crappy 1983 Pinto with a bad transmission and I got him to go ahead and win Le Mans, oh, you guys know what that is. Let's call it Daytona. I would be an amazing coach. I'm just simply saying to all of you, you have expectations the way too high that aren't aligning to your game. So you pull the handbrake on, which is tension. So you're tight. So you have bad misses, get very frustrated and you're always looking at what I should have
done this and I couldn't. You're not looking at foresight, you're looking at hindsight. And what happens, you play terrible golf, but on the back nine you go, oh, sorry, who cares? It's all over. And you shoot a 39 and go, I found it why you took the tension off. You didn't look into the past. And so I'm not that great a coach. This is not that difficult. What I'm trying to do is I'm just trying to tell you something that the golf industry and as a PGA member, I will tell you that.
And if you asked John Ray, I was with him yesterday, our president of PG of America, he would tell you most golf pros focus way too much on technique and they do not focus enough on scoring, how to get the ball in the hole and how to manage people's tension. And so that's really the answer. And congratulations on breaking 80. Just make sure the next time you go out, don't think I'm going to
break 80 today. Go out there with low expectations, or I would say realistic expectations to your level and go and play and have fun and realize you're probably get bad shots but Oh well, Doesn't mean you have to make a double bogey. Person replied. Nifty biscuit, my new fave. You must have used that expression. Nifty biscuit, absolutely. Like there's, you know, we throw some of the old school English stuff in there for sure then. You'd find that one for us is
that that's just generally good. Yes. I mean, nifty is like, you know the word nifty. You have that. Yeah, yeah, nifty. And then a biscuit biscuit in England, if you have a cup of tea, you gotta have a biscuit with it, right? So like a hobnob. I mean, you're gonna go with a hobnob for any of you that good strong, you know, maybe a chocky hobnob, right? Chocolate hobnob. Good thing. So that's a nifty biscuit right there. You know what I mean? It's like classy. It's good.
More of you are confused now than before, so I'm sorry about the answer to that question. I'll put the transcript to that and reply to that person. Yeah, GPT could probably answer that better one. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, this. You will enjoy this. This is a good little thread that happened here. Basically golf sidekick with a British accent and without the silly costumes and not as much fun. I love OK. So here's the thing, I love that golf sidekick. I think he's South African,
right? I got to reach out to him. I think All Sidekick is so fantastic and what he's doing. I love it. I love that he has the thing on the side. He reminds me of Golf Rate. What was the golf pro guy, the one that blurred his face out? Do you remember that one? Oh yeah, yeah. Look, and I'll be honest, you know what I said to Cordy that day? I'm like, we should just be more
silly and more crazy. If you've seen the videos of me blowing up GG bags and shotguns and stuff like this, I think I haven't seen how silly is he saying I'm more silly or golf psychic. No, he's saying golf sidekick's more silly. You to be more silly one. 100% and that's giving me artistic license to tell Cordy I'm going to be more fun and more silly because to be honest, guys and gals, we play this game and it beats the crap out of us and you just got to have some fun with it.
So yes, you've got to be, you've got to be it out there and sort of joke and mock yourself and have some fun because it takes attention off and it makes it better. So thank you, I will be doing that. OK, this is an interesting one, which I mean, I relate to as a golfer sometimes, but so this is a comment the anti tin cup method of playing. Playing safer is smarter, but it's also a little boring. That being said, you want to score better, you have to be a little bit smarter, right?
Like I think it's it's pretty awesome. Yeah, some people found a trap of they get bored and so then they make bad decisions and then, yeah, tension ramps up and. And who? Who is this to? And do they say what they're handy? Thomas. Thomas. OK, so Thomas, here's The thing is, I would say boring is not quite the right, but but what I would say is, is that here's The thing is that most of us don't have enough patience when we play the game of golf.
It's just like investing. I don't want to put my money into an index fund. What if you do an 8% return? You're going to be a millionaire. No, I want to go through it on Bitcoin. I want to do it on this and have all this excitement, but with excitement comes stress and frustration and anger and depression and alcohol and all these terrible things, right?
Come along with it. So my point is, is that as you get better and you look at a Patrick Canley who's just so precise and just methodical as he goes around the golf course is that you start to realize it's not really boring. It's probably that you don't have the level of patience. I'm not trying to put you down, but as a coach and just being honest is you're impatient and you're like, well, I know, but I could go ahead and do it for 18. We do the 72 hole challenge for
you. 234 handicap. This isn't for me. 72 holes, 4 rounds of golf, be in the scoring zone inside of a hundred, 100% of time. 18 out of 18, four rounds in a row, which means that well, I'm going to take a two on or 4 off every T box. Yeah, see what you shoot and you'll be amazed. The simplest 73, the simplest 75, the simplest 74, the simplest 76 you've ever played. Well, you're a good enough goal for now to be like, yeah, but I could obviously hit drive on this hole and I could be a
little bit more aggressive here. Yeah, add to it. So I wouldn't say it gets boring. What I'd say is you're taking the emotion out of golf where you have all the highs and lows and angers and I'm excited. I'm 4 over and 4:00. And you're just trying to make it methodical, which is what a professional does. A professional takes the emotion out of it, right. They're just trying to take every shot.
Barbra Teller talks about it. Make the really important shots not that important and make the unimportant shots important. So they're all level, so they all equal. Because if you do the opposite, you get frustrated when you don't pull it off or you get lays and you hit bad shots. So I I would say work on your patience and enjoy trying to get out there and not losing golf balls for four rounds of golf and see how easy it is to play to your handicap as a better
golfer. I would say he's a better golfer. Who's saying that? Yep. OK we'll we'll end with this. Will. This was the top comment, the the most liked comment so far, so here it goes. So I'm a 4.8 and I play this way in the course. However, the flaw in the strategy is assuming that a high handicapper has the ability to place their shot in a safe scoring zone. But the inability to hit a green and Reg hole #2 is perfect example. So this is a short par three that we played about 150 yards
with a a pawn short. Yeah. You're recommending to take the water out of play by hitting the safe zone long and left between the bunkers. The high endy camper could do that consistently. I'd assume they could hit a shorter shot onto the green. Yeah, brilliant. And that's bikes, is it? Yeah, yeah. What was the, what was the general responses from what you you read through? I didn't see all of these ones. I didn't see. I've seen a bunch of them. Yeah, a lot of people.
What's that? Was there a consensus to that? Did people agree with that or? I think there there's a bit of both. Some people are still in the camp of like I'm I still, I'm going to top it in the lake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. As a 4.8, I care that he's actually caring about higher hand golfers, which is really cool. But let's just talk about dispersion.
So some of the best thing you can do with technology nowadays, whether you buy a Rap Sodo, whether you go to a indoor golf place and you use another piece of technology, point being is, is that if you hit 100 shots with an iron, you'll have a dispersion pattern. OK. And so that dispersion pattern is going to show you where the majority of your golf shots go. And I would say for a, you know, 23 handicap, guess what? It's going to be short and right
for the average golfer. So if 100 balls fell down and we aimed at the flag, most of them would be short, right of the green. So what what you'd want to do is say wherever the cluster is, is where the flagship should be. Which means in theory you'd have to pick the flagstick up and move it. So let's say the other way, someone pulls it and hits it long all the time. Never found that, But let's just pretend they did, right?
Well, they'd have to put their pin front, right, right because they was missed back left, so they would hit the green in the middle. So really what we're saying here is when you come and train, your goal is to hit ten shots on the 100 yard green and see where were the misses? I've got 3 on the green. Where were the misses? Short, right. OK, well, let's try and hit it long leftover the green with a 99 instead of a pitching wage on the driving range. How many?
Well, I've got 6 on the green. Any long left? Only one that I got over the green. OK, that's not bad. Any really, really short right, None. OK, so none would have gone in the water. So you might be in the bunker,
you might be able to chip. So you're really looking at people's dispersion patterns and the problem that's happening with golf instruction on a general level is we're looking for positions of this and this rather than positions of whether the ball end up so great coaches are going to use technology to go look at your dispersion pattern from left to right and you're gapping from back to front.
So really what I'd be saying to you is when you go in practice, the goal would be let's go ahead and really hit, you know, ten of these and continue to keep logging them and logging them with technology and do with that. You know, it's phenomenal how well it does and then you start to understand your miss. So you could say to Scott, you know Scott, I love Decade, it's phenomenal. Maybe we'll talk about on the next question. You could use that, but that's a tour player who can hit that 5%
of their target every time. Ours might be 25% of the targets if our miss could be 25 yard short right, we actually kind of need to go 25 yard shot long left to get out of special where the flag is. And occasionally we ripped one. But guess what? You got to chip downhill.
It's not that bad. So you know what we're saying here for everybody is that you just got to start to understand your misses and for some of you at a high, high, high handicap, you might want to have to go and do some drills. But but Cody, I would love to talk about Joe because I got to talk to him on it on the call this week, the gentleman who did the video and went out and played eighteen holes.
Yeah, yeah, there's a guy that watched the video and then went and played using the method and gave some thoughts on it and what was his swing like? Cody, what was his golf swing like? It wasn't great. He might have topped the ball quite a few times, yeah. I mean, and Joe Joe's Joe's going to be listening to this Joe's Amy way right. He's coming over the top of it and he's got comments are like you got to shallow the plane. You got to get to the inside. You got to do all of this.
He goes out there, uses a scoring method, makes five in a row, bogeys up and downs. His goal was to break 100 and shoot 99. He shot one O 1 with a four part and three eights where he lost golf balls. So I'm talking every pro would say, well, you got it like it was violent, right, Joe, I love you brother. We're going to work on it, right? It was violent the next round. He went out shot 91. But where would most pros go? You can't shoot under part.
You can't shoot in the 80s. He just wants to shoot in 80s, wants to break 100. Once that trust is built and he starts to understand, then it's like, well, I probably need to get more distance and slop slicing it and topping it. But most of the most pros just put technique in the very front. But to watch him shoot 101, you should watch the video is fantastic. What was that? What was the sight of his? It was kind of it was like kind of golf, isn't it what it was called?
It was great. It's like kind of golf. Is it just for high, high handicappers being like, look, we we struggle, we suck. How do you use the system? And we spent half an hour on the call explaining like, here's how you do it. And he goes and she's 91. So that's the beauty of this is that it's like, yes, you might need some skill sets, but don't go and do 42 lessons on a driving range and then go on a golf course on your own. Go on a golf course with a professional, have them teach
you how to score. That's the concept. And the beauty of the method is watching people that's never gone and seen a pro who we have coaches that teach the scoring method. Obviously it's what I do for a living, but go and do it on their own and they get the results without a pro which is super awesome if you ask me. That's so great, that's so great. I think the next like comment or the the next highest ranked comment, which which I just want to talk to.
I talked a little about in the video too, but I've never understood when people say keep it in place. If I have a choice, the matter it and I think we we've touched on a number of times, but just from a personal anecdote as well, is this idea of like keeping in play and the idea of a go to club like you talk about. And I see this with myself and with so many of my friends as well as like nobody trains a go to club and practices.
And you talked a little bit about like leveling yourself up and starting A7 iron. Can you do it? Then you go to a six. I think it's really easy to say like the scoring method doesn't work because I can't keep in play because my go to club sucks just as much as my driver. Well like you don't have a go to club if you haven't practiced it and trained it and like so you can't say the go to club idea doesn't work if you haven't actually tried it or done.
Yeah, and you, you couldn't be frustrated if it was like, hey, I want to climb El Capitan and I can't do it. It's a 3000. And you were four feet off the ground and got nervous and then fell. It's like, it's like, it's like, I can't climb that. So you've got to start to realize, like so many people, but we're like, can't swing this way. What's the name of that site that Joe's on? What was it called again? Like a kind of golf, I think it's called sort sort of kind of golf.
But my point is you watch his golf swing and shot 91 and you're going to go, there's no way. And it's like, well, I don't know, He did the video. I doubt he's lying, You know what I'm saying? And so the point being is that that's what I'm trying to challenge you to all start to realize is your skill potential is probably about up here. The way you train, the way you think and the way you manage the golf course is down here. So yes, you could continue to work on the little gaps right
here. Is is that? Yeah, it Whoa, no, that's another guy. That's another one. Oh, Karen, I'm going to get to watch that video. I'm going to call you. I can't wait to see. On another one. Oh, that's no. He's a Stripe show. He's a total Stripe show. You've got to send me his stuff. I got to reach out to him. That's so awesome. I just love it that you guys are going out there and using this. You know, I've been doing this for coming on close to 20 years now. It's just so much fun to see.
Oh. Here we go, I found it. We'll here we'll give if people are watching. We'll give a shout out here. Yeah, we'll pull it up. Let's see, it's. Kind of like sort of golf. Here we go. Yeah, sort of like golf. Sort of like. You know and it was just awesome I mean no go go and get one of his golf swings. You got to get one of Joe Joe. I love you, brother. We had to get yet missed a bunch of short putts. He recorded every shot, so it was really cool.
Hey, here we go. Look at that setup, baby. Come on, look at that puppy, right, That's a. Good one. He then topped the next three. I think that he'll show you right? But then he's look watch this, you look there and he tops it again. So all of you would say technique, technique, technique. He shot his goal was 99. He shot 101. The next week he shot a 91 using the scoring method topped it again, right.
So I'm just saying is, is like, you know, to break 100, if you've got somewhat of a technique, you can get out there and start to focus on scoring and not technique, you know what I mean? And just start focusing on the scoring side of things. And when you're on the golf course, you can focus on technique and testing it. Can I do this more often? And that's what I love about it. Corey is like, hey, I watched on the YouTube and someone told me I should start doing this. Cool.
Test it. Do it 10 times. How many did you get inside of a three foot circle? 2 Now do it the way you do it. How did you get 8? We probably shouldn't do that on the golf course if you only did 2. But if it went from 8, you normally get 2 and you got 8. You do it, man. You use it on the golf course. You've got a test. You've got to test it. You've got to bring stuff in that you trust to take on the golf course. You can do it when you're in detention.
Yep, 100%. So like my my go to club, I'd always tried to have a foreign be my go to club and then I realized that I never I never trained it or practice it. So then I I went, I found a hybrid which was great. And then my 5 iron is like the the notch down for me of like I can do that. I can, I have trained that enough where I'm good there. And I challenge you for your next tournament on any hole that you don't think that you can
definitely put driver in play. You take a 5 iron off the tee and you'll be amazed that it's like because you did it so far, you'll be amazed at 80 fours turning to 70 fours and you're like, OK, but now I'm learning a 74. Obviously you want to shoot a 68, but the point is you've got to get a foundation where you're so confident that you can put it in play right for a better golfer, obviously. Come on, a Scotty Fosset, it talks about us. What? What?
What did he say? We got you got a couple more minutes, you got to run it. Yeah, I will. So one of the one of the reels that we cut out of the main video got some comments on Instagram. Honestly, I didn't even think about these before we hopped on here. But you're right. So Scott, we we love Scott Fawcett. Scott, you're awesome. He said that he got tagged in this because you know, people looking to get his perspective. This is this thing he had me until put away the driver.
The biggest difference the 90 shooter and 70s is distance off the tee. I understand you keep the ball in play, but just because you drop back doesn't mean you'll hit the ferry or keep it out of the trees.
Yeah, absolutely. So first thing I would say here, we didn't cut it out as in like we didn't want you to see it as in we cut a short and put it in. Second thing with Scott Fawcett decade, the college kids and the tour players that he is helping is absolutely fantastic and the data that's driven from it. And Scott is a you know, his mind, he's a genius mind and he's a great golfer and and a good guy. Been on the podcast. I love what what they're doing
with decade. I think it's helping a lot of our college players that go my swings not good enough. No, you aimed at a flagstick and you were 150 out and there was trouble left and you didn't use your dispersion rate and you missed it left and you hit it in the water. That's why you may double, not because you're not good enough is because you came to the wrong place. So I think that's what's so amazing about what Scott does. And I think for those better golfers, I completely
understand. I completely also understand when he says driver goes further, it's easier to score. Let's now talk about the genius behind all of this, which is Mark Brody. And I think we do need to throw the Mark Brody video in here because Mark Brody created strokes, gained an insanely clever mathematician, an amazing man who's helped so many golfers, right? Every shot counts. Many of you've read it.
And I said to Mark specifically, I was presenting with him up in Canada. I said, Mark, can you explain to me the key thing? And I'm going to just put the video in and you can watch it right now and see it. If you could say that again, that'd be fantastic. So we're talking about how close do you want to get to the wholesale on a on a par 5? And I definitely believe you want to use the longest club that you're consistent with, you
know, the long. So if you're mentioning the the notion of hitting A31 and if you top it or slice it or hook it, if you're not very consistent with that, then you're bringing all sorts of trouble into play. Whereas for somebody it might be a three hybrid that there is the longest club that they're consistent with. And that's a separate issue from where exactly are the hazards and and some other things.
So I, you know, generally believe, you know the closer closer you already the green, the lower you're going to score if you're not putting yourself into trouble. Absolutely, Absolutely. So it's really getting that your favorite, your go to club longer and longer and longer, more and more consistent because that will then put you in a position from 20 yards off of the green instead of 100 yards off the.
Green Exactly. Yeah, it's all about playing the percentages and you can't ignore the different dispersion or consistency that you have with a three wood versus A3 hybrid or whatever the other the other club is. So absolutely. And remember, that's from Mark Brodie. Every shot that counts, now that you've watched the video, it is as far as you can advance the ball in play because, yes, he's tracking tour players that can hit drivers in a dispersion rate of, say, 50 yards.
You know, in amateurs and better amateurs, 70 yards. But some of us, we can hit 87 yards rate and 147 yards left. So his biggest thing is you advance it as far as you possibly can. And yes, that will show you how to shoot the lowest scores, which is why at the scoring method, what we're a proponent of is go to the driving range, hit 10-6 signs. Oh, you got 9 out of 10, right. Done with that. You know, that's a go to club. 4 hybrids. How many? 30, then six, then eight, then nine.
As you do this, you're getting better face control because the more you hit, the more in control of your face you are. So the more you become aware of the face of the club. And I was talking to Randy Smith the other day about Scotty Scheffler and Randy, he was saying his awareness of the club is better than anyone in the world right now. That's why he's got control over his ball flight.
So many of us are trying to be positional golfers instead of the position is where is the face of impact. So as you get that four hybrid in play, guess what? The three would now get 7 out of 10 times and then the driver gets 6 out of 10 times. So then you get to a hole in a big wide open hole. You know, your misses a right bomb driver, Scotty absolutely go down as far as you possibly can. So yes, you've got to use it. Now for some of my lady golfers and seniors, they hit their
drivers So darn straight. I'm like, you can't take your go to club is your driver. If you lay it with A4 iron, you can't hit a you know, if they're hitting a 511 yards, we're never going to get to the hole. So I'm hit driver all day long. Let's go, let's go. But for most of us, our driver dispersion is so wide that what Scott is saying doesn't match up
to a 22 or 23 handicap. Now you might then say, well, I'm a four and I can hit a duck hook and I can also hit a block and there's a 70 or 80 yard wide special. Yeah. So you shouldn't be taking a driver on that hole. But it's 460 yards. Yeah, it's the hottest hole in the course. It's the hole that you're going to triple or double.
So if you took your go to 4I and hit 210 or your two I and hit 2:20 and then you poked another one out of that 210 or 220 and got into the scoring zone and wedged on and missed the putt, you'd make a bogey. And who cares? It's not about making more birdies to win on the PGA Tour, It's who has the less least amount of bogeys that wins on the PGA Tour. Phil Mickelson showed that for years, right? It's only when he's starting to get rid of double S that he started to win majors, right?
So that's the beauty of what I think is so great about Scott Fawcett in decades. And I think for that next level of golfer that's looking for the mathematician behind it and the real strategy and college players, I think, yeah, great. But if you want something that's you can go through very simply and make you a better caddy player, I would say the simplicity you know of using the scoring method, it'll help you fantastically. Well, thank you for responding
to all the comments. It was very fun to get out and take your on my home course and do some stuff. We're going to do it again. Because you're back in Minnesota, we get a high handicap golfer and we go out there and we go and do it and get some more content. And please keep the questions coming and the other ones be be devil got advocate. You know, it's OK. I'm not saying be a hater. We all need to be loving in the world, but I'm saying challenge us because we want to help you
get better at golf. My mission is to revolutionize golf instruction worldwide. That means guarantee lower scores for golfers, and that's what the scoring method is doing. Love it will. Thank you. Peace.