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Are You Gripping Your Golf Club Wrong?

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How tight should you hold the golf club? Is it really a “3 out of 10” like you’ve always heard… or is there more to the story?In this episode, we break down brand-new research on grip pressure with insights from Liam Mucklow, who has studied golfers of every skill level using pressure-sensor grips. From Tour pros to slicers and high-handicappers, we’ll show you what really happens with the hands at setup, transition, and impact - and why most golfers get it wrong.You’ll see why:-Tour pros grip firmer than you think (and why their “3/10” isn’t yours)-High-handicappers often grip too lightly and lose control of the club-Hooks and slices both come from hand pressure patterns gone wrong-Grip strength and even grip size can change your swing speed and contactThis is practical, research-backed info you can use the next time you tee it up.📩 Want more instruction like this every Thursday? Join the free Golfwell Weekly: https://golfwell.co

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Today we're covering some really interesting research on grip pressure, how tightly you're gripping the club. And we're not just talking about like it's set U like how tight. Your grip should be but. All throughout the swing. Like what about a transition at the top of the back swing? What about an impact? We have a really great study we're looking at with Liam Mucklow. We're talking about his work that he's done with pressure

sensors into grips. I looked at high handicappers, people that hook the ball, slice the ball, and pros. So really good data. I'm super excited to dive into this with him. We recorded this a little while back for folks on our newsletter who got the first sneak peek of this. So if you're not subscribed, make sure to get the Golf Well Weekly comes out every Thursday morning. Send it out with some of the best interesting stuff going on in golf instructions, Golf

performance. So golfball.co just right there on the home space. Sign up and you'll get stuff like this every single week. All right, let's go do it. OK. Yeah, all. Right. OK, so here's like, I think the biggest thing, biggest simple thing is like, oh, but I was supposed to hold it as a three out of 10. Like, OK, well, there's a lot of layers to feel back there, but what I've got here, this graph on the right, this is showing percentage of maximum grip pressure for that golfer type.

OK, so we got our legend up here with you, right? So we have our playing professional. We've got the person that chronically fights a Hulk. We've got the high handicapper that just struggles with contact in general. And then we've got, you know, like your classic slicer. Yeah. So first thing I want to do is take a look at at setup. So if we look at the height kneecapper and the slicer, well, First off, they're way below 3 out of 10.

They're like below 1 out of 10. They're barely holding it. OK, so they've got a little overboard there. Even even the the hooker here is like below 25%, they're below 3 out of 10. Now we get here, it's like a four 4 1/2 out of 10 for the Tour Pro. So this is to me, this is where it gets interesting. Take a look at the grip strengths over here. So this is from the PowerPoint. So the average combined grip strength of those two hands is 276 lbs.

Now we times that by the actual, you know, amount of pressure, you know, the percentage of Max pressure. And I got like 124 lbs OK, like not too far off a three out of 10. But what I don't think amateur golfers ever take into account is the person who's saying they feel like it's a 3 out of 10 hits golf balls all day every day and hits them hard. And like, this is what they do.

So they've got if anyone out there has ever actually shook hands with a tour pro, they got a pretty serious grip. Yeah, within group 2 we had we had one guy who competes in long drive, which to be honest, I think it kind of skewed the grip strength a little higher than what we would normally see. The other thing I'll notice so when you see this differential 13.4 lbs, that means on average the lead hand, the left hand for the right-handed golfer was about 13 1/2 lbs stronger than

the right, huh. So anyway, we're let's go let's go back to this 124 number. OK OK now we're down here at our, you know, high handicap or poor contact player. Well, their Max is only 147, so if they actually wanted to match what, you know, what the tour Pro is doing from, I'll call it like a global perspective, not a three out of 10, but 124 lbs. They'll be way up here at like a nine out of 10. Got it. So got it.

Yeah, like obviously there's a lot there to digest, but I think to me the simple basic is like 99% of amateur golfers would be better off to squeeze the club tighter in a dress. Got it. So we've got, we've got this aspect of obviously our professional golfers are swinging harder than the amateurs that you're, you're talking about too, right? Like I swing faster. In there, they're gripping it harder to to set up.

Do you think it's, do you think they swing faster because they grip it harder or they grip it harder because they swing faster? Man, that that's the toughest part about this study of pressure because there's also like this thing you don't know, I'll put that grip pressure graph back up and we'll start to talk our way through it.

But it's like there's certain points where the golfer is applying pressure to the handle of the club and there's certain points where the handle of the club is applying pressure to the golfer. OK, so, yeah, so it gets, you know, there, there's some Gray area now. I, I, I think you know, to me, I think, you know, there's a,

there's a couple things at play. What, what I've noticed now since having this information, starting to have dialogue with amateur players about it. I think one of the most important things is that there has to be a match between the grip pressure application and the resultant body movements of the player. So I don't think you'll be able to make an exact match to the pressure distribution pattern unless you move your body in a similar way.

And if we look into some of the individual swings, we can kind of dive a little bit deeper into there. But if, if we're not changing body movements, but we're changing grip pressure, it's quite likely that the club will be out of sync with the body and we won't get that increased performance. I do feel, you know, again, for these amateurs, 99% of them, we're going to be better off squeezing it tighter. It's so loose that it's like they're losing energy created by our body.

And it's the last, you know, it's our only connection to the club. And if that's not secure, we're going to have energy that we generate with our body leak out and not transferred to the club, you know. So I think, I think that's one of the most important for the conceptual things, I guess. So is it that we're we're doing so much work with our body to try to swing hard, but then we're gripping it too lightly? So the club is is the club is actually controlling it instead of our hands?

Is that a way to say it? Yeah. No, I, I like that, especially when we look, I'm going to throw up another. I'm going to throw up another image here. Let's look at the let's look at the high Handycamper. OK, now this is getting so this is getting a little heavy here. Let me just get the slideshow a little like, so here's like the latest round of I don't know, process and we'll call it there. There is there's so much data in this study from the swing catalyst motion plate to the

full body gears. We use Forsythe GC quad for this one, plus the sensor grip. So this to me is super fascinating. It's overlaid with the kinematic sequence. And so we've kind of put these little body position avatars to try and help people that don't look at this stuff every day understand where we're at. And I think this is super fascinating. So the orange line is showing me the rotational speed of the club, OK, when it's down here where my, I'm not sure if can

you see my cursor right now? Yeah, there. We go. I can, yeah. So when it's down here, that's the club is rotating away from the target, OK, It's up here, it's rotating towards a target. And so we see this, you know, super, super, super low growth

pressure. And as the club starts to accelerate to me, and I'm just telling you how I read this, I can't tell you if it's right, This is just what I'm kind of the way I see it, the group pressure starts to ramp up a little bit as the club picks up some speed. Now right here where we get, you know, that line farthest down below the horizontal axis, that's the fastest the club is rotating back away from the target.

And I'm like right at that moment in time, it's like this high handicapper just grabs on for life and they're along for the ride. OK, you know, And then if, you know, we look transition to the downswing, Well, whichever line is highest up here is rotating fastest to the target. Well, right from the beginning, that club is rotating the faster the target than any other part of the body.

And it's like, yeah, they're gloves leading the way, and they're just squeezing on for dear life, hanging on for a ride, you know, kind of like, I don't know, maybe your first trip on a roller coaster when you were 12 years old. I'm just hanging on trying to stay in the car. OK. So it's just, yeah, really high pressure from like kind of, I don't know if it's arm parallel on the backswing. Give or take somewhere between shaft parallel and arm parallel in the backswing, yeah.

All the way through impact, it's it's kind of just grip. Then then they decide to grip. Yeah. And then it's like then they they lock on like, you know, this, you know, with their maximum grip pressure. And what's also interesting, we'll look at a couple other ones. This it kind of the circular dotted line, that's the trail hand, the right hand, because this dash line, that's the lead hand, the left hand. The high handicappers were also the only group that had higher

pressure was the bottom hand. Every other group had higher pressure with the top. Hand. Interesting. Do they have the most rotation happening? They had the least amount of body, well that impact, they had the least amount of body rotation. OK, the the slicer you want to you want to look at hooker or slicer next? Let's. Look at hooker. OK, so so the hooker started, you know, with the grip pressure that was closest to the amount to the professional.

Remember the professionals were way up here, still about double and it's a little bit more controlled. But again, we see this same thing keep happening when this club is it maximum rotational speed away from the target. It's like within every group, there's this little spike in grip pressure. Now what what we noticed and it's it's pretty difficult to tease out of this grass there was. So well, First off, let's take a

look. This dotted line right when the golfer starts down, this hooker really starts to squeeze hard with the left hand. The right hand goes up a little bit, but not nearly as much as the left. OK, So what we saw was a real ramp up in left hand grip pressure, but very low pelvis rotation.

So it's like they're squeezing the club, dropping it down this way and instead of rotating, they're kind of just sliding the hips forward, you know, side bending away from the target, which makes sense for, to me anyway, for the club being, you know, dumped behind. Yep, yeah, it's. Way behind them and now, you know, in here you can see we're coming up on impact with shaft parallel on the way down and it's again just this is the way I read it.

I'm look, it's like the golfer knows I got the club stuck so far behind and it's going so far inside out. It's like, Oh my God, I better flip it back to square with the right hand right. You see that, you know, I got ourself that my whole life so. Got it. So, you know, kind of interesting there. I'm sorry, I guess I need I need a clarification. Could you define? Total pressure again cuz cuz the total pressure of the high handicap was higher.

So I'm missing I'm missing something mentally here? Total pressure. No, no. So that we'll talk about I got AI, got a baseball back here. So so we take the sensor grip club. Yeah. And then it's like, you know, the software prompts, squeeze it as tight as you can in the left hand. OK, OK, yeah. And then squeeze it as tight as you can in the right hand and then squeeze it as tight as you can with both hands. Got it. And that, that and that's what

determines the 100%. That's also what sets the split location for lead, hand and trail. OK. Pretty important stuff. Now we'll go just because this is not complicated enough, we're going to go back to this high handicapper because I want you to notice, Yeah, they actually get up above 100% here with the right hand. OK, Yeah. And, and that's what I was talking about is there's periods in time when the club is pushing back into the player.

And so that's how they're able to get a higher pressure than what they could actually just stand there and squeeze it with. Interesting. OK. That makes sense. I I get it. Yeah, Yeah. Especially if they're, you know, as I kind of put it along for the ride. And that's that's not a good thing though, like being able to produce more than 100% of force that that's not a helpful thing. Well, we didn't see it happen with any good players in this. OK, OK, so. Yeah, yeah.

Now, you know, the other thing I think is important for people out there to know too is like, this is brand new technology, you know, And so as we use it more, there may be ways we could do more effective calibration. So one of the things we're playing around with now, this came from Sasho when we were talking over in England, is actually to put the the club at a gripping vise. So I can not only grab it, but I can kind of twist it. And I think that might get that

100% up a little bit higher. Got it. So, So yeah, with the, you know, with the with the player that, you know, fights the hook, we saw, you know, very low body rotation in the first half of the downswing and an increase in lead hand pressure. Yep. So that that was kind of a common trait across the sample size. Yep. When we get here to the slicer, you know, again, it's like starts with lower pressure. This is more of kind of a steady ramp up throughout the whole backswing.

And then when I, you know, when we're looking at both of the body movements and the grip pressure, we see this right hand, the the circular dotted line, we see it really kind of ramp up and I'm, and we saw a lot of pelvis rotation. So again, I just start picturing A golfer spinning quickly with their body and pushing hard with the right hand. I'm like, Oh yeah, OK, well, let's slice all day.

That makes sense, yeah. And they're doing it too early, right with the right hand they that's why that bump is early with the. Gets it out early. Yeah, you got it. So now hopefully this one starts to make a little bit more sense. So you know, again, my interpretation of this is we've got much higher growth pressure to start with and compared to the other groups, relatively, even relatively constant as it go throughout the backswing. Now they're the the professionals, the only people

in the group that we saw. Oh man, Holy smokes. I just realized I have this slide title wrong and it's a slicer. It is not a slicer. Sorry, folks. We see this little peek right at transition and I believe the peak is because the golfer has to squeeze the club in order to stop it and have it get ready to change direction. And then we see, you know, the only group, this was the only group of all of them that had a reduction in grip pressure early in transition.

So when I think about it, that's what allows me to rotate the body and kind of let the club, it's all behind the body. You know, there's a million different things. If you want to call it leg or shallow, I'll leave that up to whoever wants to put those labels on it. But that's just kind of what I felt like I saw. And you know, once we get to around, you know, with the different people, it varied a little bit.

But between lead arm parallel and shaft parallel, we see a big ramp up in the grip pressure again. Yeah. And then for the last little bit on approach to the ball, we see it fairly neutral, fairly calm, which also makes sense. You know, I think about how good those professional players are maintaining, you know, minimal club face rotation through the striking so. Interesting. It's so different than the other golfers, the professor, it's so flat. It's so. Yeah, yeah, very different.

That's where we, you know, this latest round was trying to visualize it over the course of the Gulf Point, you know, like in in time, not just in kind of like, you know, because the the time between each of these positions is definitely not created equal, you know, our P1 to P6, whatever you want to look. Yeah. So, yeah, like there's, there's a lot of differences. There's a lot going on. You know, this is kind of back

to the normal visualization. I think the big thing like if we look at we look at the high handicappers, the first thing I look at is how they're the only group that's trailhand dominant. So like if I'm, you know, if I'm a high handicapper, what do I make of that? Well, the first thing I would start to do would be maybe just take your wedge and go do some left hand only swings, you know, and because it could be #1 get the left hand grip strength higher.

So in that, in that group, when we tested grip strength on the dynamometer, the right hand was stronger to begin with. So let's get the left hand grip strength higher and let's learn how to rotate our body and use it that way. Yep. When I think about stuff for the the slicer here where in transition I've got that real spike, early spike with the right hand, I think about

Hogan's three finger drill. Well, let's just take them right off the club, you know, and if they're not touching the club, I think it's probably harder to apply pressure to it. That would make sense. Yeah, yeah, right. And you know, they're already rotating the body, so maybe that gives the club the chance to kind of fall behind the body instead of get thrown out in front of it. If I'm if I'm here with the with the hooker, I would say this is gets tricky. It's kind of two things.

First, if we look at their right hand grip pressure right here and then we look at the pros right here. I would want to see them kind of do it the opposite right. They're increasing left hand grip pressure decreasing right hand as opposed to the pros decreasing left hand increasing right now It can be a mind melter for sure, but I would squeeze it tighter with the right hand in your hips early. Remember they they had low hip rotation sliding back this way.

Yep. So turn and squeeze it with the right hand. You might stop dumping that thing so far back behind you. A lot of graphs, man. A lot. Of no, it's, it's super interesting. OK, so I guess we all can grip it harder at setup, right? That's pretty universal. I am very comfortable with that, yes, OK. I guess you you gave some interventions there of like things that you can think about. Have you seen is working on grip pressure like does that work as an intervention?

Does that change movement patterns or is it difficult that going that direction? It can for sure. You know, I think I think a lot of it for the coaches out there is gauge the athletic skill and coordination of the client. If that person hasn't played any other sports, if their body awareness isn't great, you might want to develop that stuff first before you, you know, start trying to ask some of these complex athletic movements that are all going to be kind of

internal cues. The analogy I used when I was presenting this stuff last week is my partner in in the baseball stuff, Mikey Gibbs. Played professional baseball, college national champion, third round draft pick, highly coordinated, high level of body awareness. We're about to play golf a couple weeks ago and he just said, yeah, I'm just going to feel like my right hand is kind

of relaxed. It drove it as straight as I've ever seen it. Gave up a couple yards, played eighteen holes with 1G ball is pretty impressive. Nice. My wife helps him proofread all the articles and stuff that I write. So just after we finished the article for Golf magazine, Wendy went over to the range to try and apply some of the grip pressure stuff. Her background is in sailing.

I think she shanked 3 balls, accidentally threw her club once and then came home upset and said this is crap, I'm not getting this. Yeah, you know, you kind of got to gauge who you're with. And I think, you know, to me what, what I find fascinating about is we've just never had this intro, you know, And so the, the, the purpose of this study was really just to try and gather some information.

See, is there any common tendencies, you know, in these golfer subsets, which I I was quite surprised in the similarities, you know, and then, you know, from there, Yeah. Like, let's just get this information out there to as many coaches, as many golfers as we can start to collect thoughts from, you know, their thought leaders in the industry and see how can we use this? Can we use this to, to move things forward? For sure. Is it? Yeah. What what is the new tech or

what like what do you? What's this new sensor that allows you to measure it? So it's called, it's called sensor grip. Let me get let me get a picture of him up here. OK, kind of show you guys what it looks like here. Because the problem has always been measuring this, right? Like that's always been the, yeah, always been the issue, yeah. So you can, you can kind of see a little bit here. We use a, it's a grip Master leather wrap grip that goes over

top of the sensors. So if you're familiar with how those grips are kind of like a wind or a lizard skin grip, they have like a like a foam rubber core that goes on and then it's wrapped on top. So the foam rubber core goes on, they wrap the the sensor wires around and they put the grip on top. And then you have a wire that

comes out. In fact, the new one that they just released, instead of the wire going all the way back to the computer, it goes to a little thing on your hip and then transmits via Bluetooth and the wire is a lot thinner and lighter. So, you know, they're making some pretty good, pretty good advancements there. And this is just the rest of the tech we use. So it was taking all four of these and then manually

collating the data. This is an idea of kind of sort of what you can, you know, their standard interface. So it it links in with a webcam. So for us, you know, the sensor grip is very accurate in denoting impact time. So we match the impact time on the sensor grip with the impact time on the gears and use that as a time stamp to work back.

OK, so you can see here, it'll give you your, you know, it'll give you your distribution at various points in the swing, top of the swing, lead arm, parallel shaft, parallel impact. You know, they're also now working on some calculations of being able to extrapolate the net forces and applied to the

club as well. So it's, you know, like I said, it's it's still not ready for the masses yet, but it's getting much closer to where I think you're going to start to see this popping up in more golf academies for sure. So when we're talking about the pressure applied, it was based on your Max pressure that you could apply. So what did you find? You mentioned that you did measure just like strength with one of the, I forget the name of it, what you call it. Yeah, the dynamometer.

Yeah, what did the pros have? Also the greater like strength overall as well. Yeah, they did. So it was, let's pop this back up here. So. So the professionals, whoopsie professionals did have a higher overall grip strength. Like I said, that was. The hook grip was closer, but again, it was like I said, just total transparency. It was a little skewed from a long drive competitor, you know, who happens to hook it, you know, And then as we get down, the slicer was a little bit weaker.

Even though you don't see same age in here. Obviously the age went up for the poor contact, which does contribute to the grip strength going down. But yeah, it's a pretty, in this small study, pretty linear relationship between group strength and handicap. And you know, there is a lot of other, you know, studies, I know super speeds put some stuff out there. They talk about the same type of relationship they've seen for group strength and club speed, which makes sense.

You know, I, you know, in the physical testing world, you know, if I only had one test to do to try and gauge the overall, I guess strength, health, whatever of a person, I would go a grip strength because it just tied to so many other things. Interesting. It is that 276, is that a good? I'm not. I don't know these numbers very well. Is that a good number? Is it really strong? Is that just like an average person or? Yeah, I mean, it's not bad.

I guess like, I guess for context, that's pretty much where I'm at, OK, which I'm around £140 per hand. I'm 45 year old former golfer that has been quite lazy and sedentary the last couple years. So, you know, it depends on where you're starting out at as well. When we're looking at, you know, I would expect a competitive long driver to be more in their 350 to 360 LB ratio. Yeah, yeah, OK. You know, that's kind of where Micah lives, you know, a cruise control club and speed around

128 without training for golf. So you know, a lot of power there. You know, I think within reason for, again, for like 99% of the amateurs out there, I think more is better. Yeah, like I like I, I don't. We're a long way from being so rigid with it. It's set up and in the backswing that it's going to impede the golf swing. You know, I also start to think

about other stuff. I remember reading more things from Doctor McKenzie about how I believe he's proven that increase in backswing speed results in more downswing speed. And I feel like, OK, well if I'm going to swing it back faster, the first thing I got to do is squeeze it tighter. I got to activate these muscles up through the forearm, upper arm, and even in the shoulder girdle and let's get everything

connected and working together. Yeah. You know, instead of the 0 grip shankle, let me just take it back with my wrist and I was going to start chasing the club down with my body the whole way. Yeah, what? What do you? Think is the impact. Of like grip size and grip like texture as well like on these because because obviously they they couldn't use their grips, right? So they're using the the sensor.

So yeah, what is then size? Well, and you know, trying to do the best we could then charge was great. They they put grips on two different flexes of shaft for each driver, 7 iron so we're able to get them as close as possible to their own shaft. We adjusted the lie loft of the iron heads to match, you know, their current spec and we only brought people in that were using a standard size grip. So it does grip size matter. Absolutely can't tell you how.

I definitely think it'll be the next one. Anecdotally, years and years and years ago at the lab, we started taking long drivers and testing their grip strength at different, you know, different diameters on the dynamometer. And then wherever they had the highest grip strength, we would do our best to build grips to match that size.

Oh, cool. I think in general, I think most people would perform better with larger than standard grips as it as we get a little bigger than a Golf Club than the standard Golf Club. Most of the people we test are able to actually just put more force through it. It you know, we're seeing, we're seeing in the world longer afterward. We're seeing pretty good adoption rates into various sizes of jumbo mats, OK. You know, we're seeing a little bit more of that on on the

professional tours as well. So here's here's what I anecdotally know about larger grips is that like we've traditionally been taught that they're going to go right because you can't turn them over right? Like that's probably, I don't know, old, yeah, old, old stereo. OK. And then the second thing is that they. Do that. Because they add weight. So you just change the, the weight of the the club is why

they do that. So that's like that's what I think about when I think about larger, larger grips a little bit. Well, in the in the grip size testing that we've done, I could say a couple of things. One was we actually found and we weren't talking about pressures before that technology was around. We found that there was no correlation between hand hand length and the grip size. That created maximum consistency directional control on average the thirty person amateur

population. And that was able to reduce dispersion by 34% by just changing the grip size. Wow. For some people it was going smaller. Looking back now, for example, we had one individual that had very, very, you know, the largest hands in the study. He performed best with the smallest grip, I think now total guess. But because it was so tiny, he had to squeeze so hard just to keep it in there. If you stabilize the sweet spot, I had better connectivity may better contact.

Interesting. Yeah, the, the weight is a thing for sure because, you know, if you go to a heavier weight grip and don't adjust swing weight properly, you're going to see, as most people do, a reduced closure rate. You know, you lose a little bit of wrist mobility and a reduction in swing weight is kind of a double wing that can create an excessive brightness. I got it. Oh man, I got to order. I'm ordering a diameter right now and that. 25 bucks on Amazon man.

And we're swapping. We're going to do that. I love that test. That seems so obvious. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it. I mean, yeah, you just make stuff up and try it. And as people get better, keep doing it as they don't apologize and do something else. Are you going to do that again? We got to see that test come back. We got to. Yeah, no, no, no, no. The boys up at the lab are still doing it. Absolutely OK.

Oh yeah. So do you have a protocol then is it like you'd go different lengths and you test the strength and then you? Yeah, so different dynamometers are a little different. You know, they have like this little wheel where it kind of adjusts and scales the width of the the gripping component. Just kind of eyeball it with some golf grips there, OK, you know, so you can do it that way.

You know, the other thing we've done in terms of our fitting protocols is, you know, within our testing, we'll go with the length and then we go with the weight. And then we if we need to reduce flex and then optimize the head and if we still feel there's opportunity for improved control, we actually have 5 different size grips on the same driver fitting shaft and the same iron fitting shaft. So we're able to do some testing with the person, at least get

some objective data. OK, so I think that's one, you know, other one if it's amateur golfers that are, you know, just out there going Oh my God, there's there might be something valuable here, but I don't know what to do because I got no one to go to. You know, if you got a week or whatever where you're not playing go like go throw a jumbo grip on your 9 iron in the mid South on your 8 and leave everything else standard and just go dig it out the dirt at

the range and see what you see. I like it. I like it. How do you, if someone's doing that, how do they make sure it's not a weight, a weight issue that causes that well? You know, you could go online to the manufacturer website and check the weights. So like just on the weight. Then I think this is like this will be my my PSA for the day. OK, white grips are heavy. So if you if you wear like the golf pride tour wrap and then the white golf pride tour wrap, it's like 10 grams heavier.

It makes a big difference in swing weight. I guess I have to put so much white dye in the rubber. It makes it heavier. So they'll go white and then, you know, Yeah. Check the manufacturer website at most places. Like there's Redwood Watch just down the street from me. Yeah. And they got a little club building set up.

They got a gram white scale. So, you know, just ask the guy to weigh the grips for you so you can see what you're dealing with, you know, and ideally if they have a swing white scale and maybe they need to slap a piece of lead tape on the head to keep the overall balance the same. OK, got it on it. I'm on it here. I'm going to share my screen and so you can so dynamometer I'm I need to order right now. So we're just, we're just throwing one of these on there. Yeah, yeah.

Like those two on the left are kind of our normal ones. If you want to go all out, we do for all of our research stuff we do use that one on the right. It's 300 bucks not not necessary for the at home user or the golf Academy. OK. Got it. All right, we'll grab. We'll, I'm going to grab one of those. I'm not. Man. OK, so we, we've got everyone needs to grip it more at setup that is for sure.

And then maybe depending on your your Swing type, there could be some some interventions you could try to help make some changes. And it's like the most general blanket statement possible. You know that we're pretend we're back in Scotland like a few years ago and we're you know, we're out at a pub having to be going, oh, I don't know about this golf thing. You just tell me how I squeeze it like, oh boy, well, squeeze it pretty tight, like a like a

good firm handshake. And I start try and feel that stay constant through the backswing. Try not to try not to feel an increase. OK. And then in transition when you're changing direction, feel like it's, you know, it lightens up if anything. So it's like, start strong, stay constant, relax when I change direction, and then hey, from there whatever else happens, happens. Sergio had the regroup, right? He always did. Or who did? Who does the regroup at like?

Transcript. I mean he would regroup it like 100 times at setup, you know, in transition. Didn't he do it in transition? Where he kind? Of he might have. You could see. Yeah, I think, yeah. Yeah, when he get I've seen a ton of images of like when BJ gets contact and is right-handed. So I plan off the club. Yeah, see that a lot in baseball too. Yeah, it's it's interesting, man.

Like, I think we're just scratching the surface when you know it's going to be 3 to five more years before we really have deep, valuable insights. Yep, Yep. Sweet. All right. Thanks for sharing, man. Yeah.

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