Hello, and welcome to Unleash Monday, where we talk about the brain, especially the gifted brain and how does it affect our thinking and experience of the world differently. There are a lot of stereotypes and stigma around giftedness, and I'm here to challenge those. I'm here to raise awareness and to have a conversation around this topic of what does it mean to be a gifted adult common experience among gifted folks is that they feel out of place.
They don't quite fit in. They are too sensitive, too intense, too. Emotional two over excitable, and two deep thinkers about the world and about themselves. If you have been called too much of about anything, then this show is for you. My name is Nadja. I'm too loud, too colorful, too bubbly, too bossy and love to talk too much.
So welcome to my world. And I'm so happy. You're here. Hi, happy Monday. I hope you're all well. And you're starting into this new week with a lot of swing and you're well rested from the weekend and you're ready to tackle another week and have some small goals to accomplish this week. Maybe I have an amazing guest for you today.
Her name is Kanan Tekchandani, and she's from the UK. As you can hear from her beautiful accent and she is a fellow tidying consultant, but she also does meditation and mindfulness yoga practice. And she's a relationship coach. And she also is an adult living on the autism spectrum. So she's creating and raising awareness around the topic of autism and ADHD and neuro divergence in general.
And I believe she's also one of the gifted adults, so I'm super happy. She agreed to join and come on this show and I hope you enjoy our conversation. So without further ado, let's just dive right into it. Have a wonderful week. Everybody welcome Kanan. It's so great to have you. Thank you for having me. Not yet. I already looked a little bit into your website and it seems you're a little bit like me,
a multipotentialite you do so many different things and it seems like you have a very, very interesting story. Would you like to start sharing your whole journey? Who are you and how, and when did you find out you are not a neuro-typical person? Okay. Yeah, I think I'm going to start with when I had my first son and he's now.
So when he was a young child, when he was a toddler, I always knew there was something a bit different. He was very good at school and everyone thought he was very polite, but we saw a different person at home. So I would take him to the doctor and get his hearing tested, ask at school. And there was nothing picked up.
But as a, as a parent, I knew that was something couldn't quite pinpoint it. So I had to go into this investigation, dirty myself, and that's when I kind of thought, okay, I think he's got ADHD, but no one else saw it. So I wasn't getting any support. So I decided to just go in and power myself to help my family.
So I did a lot of reading and learning about autism and ADHD. And then I got trained as a yoga teacher for children, with autism and ADHD, and it was great. And that I started sharing that with other children. And then I found Mary condo who, you know, I declared it my whole house at the same time. And I realized,
wow, this is so helpful. It made life a lot easier. There's a lot less pressure. And I just found it more time to focus on my family and our wellbeing. So doing those from my son, I ended up setting up two little businesses, one as a yoga teacher, and one is a declutter. And although they didn't seem to have any connection,
I knew that they were helpful. So I carried on trying to offer that to other people. And then I ended up getting some life coaching and that just changed everything for me in a few short sessions, I just saw things very differently and life changed. I also had the privilege to spend time with a Buddhist monk and trained in mindfulness and meditation. So all these things came together and just created this change in my life,
the way I perceive my life and my family, you know, it used to be really challenging in terms of the behavior of muscle and at home. And then also the way I was parenting him with my partner. So we also had a second child and the, all these dynamics were really difficult to kind of manage. But with all those tools, it just made life a lot easier and we could be happy.
We could be well. And then my son was finally diagnosed about three or four years ago, and it was actually autism, which really surprised me because I could've sworn it was ADHD. And then I went down this, another rabbit hole of researching autism, even more particularly in adults. And that's when I realized, oh, I think I'm autistic. But I hadn't realized by that stage,
I was in my forties and I kind of through my yoga and mindfulness meditation, I knew myself quite well. I've been on that journey, turning in words and looking at myself. So it wasn't that big, a shock to think, oh, okay, I identify as autistic. But then I started hanging out in during lockdown, various Facebook groups that support people with ADHD and autism.
And I could see how unhappy and really disempowered. So many of them were, whether it's as an adult themselves experiencing that or whether there were parents or a partner. And I just saw this huge gap in what was possible for neuro divergence and neuro diverse families. And what so many of them were experiencing was all this suffering, emotional suffering, and just confusion,
misunderstanding, not really knowing themselves and how they fit in the world. And that's when I decided to pivot my service to become a specialist ADHD and a ASC coach so that I could specifically help my, what was now. I realize my people. So I also knew that people around me wouldn't probably believe me when I said that was autistic, because I'm pretty good at talking and I can hold eye contact,
stuff like that. So I went and got assessed just purely so that I could prove to people, look, I fit this diagnostic criteria, even though you may think that autism looks something like someone visibly disabled, or perhaps like rain man, which was what I grew up with. And hence why I never ever thought, oh, maybe I'm autistic. And I think that's something that needs to be noted because there's a whole generation of people that would not even consider that maybe they're autistic because that's the image they've got in their head.
That's a stereotype that we've grown up with and not through necessarily anyone's fault, but maybe we'd there just wasn't enough awareness and education around it. So part of my, my mission is also to try and raise awareness and, you know, being, being autistic, it doesn't necessarily come naturally to me to speak out loud to the world, but it's also my special interest.
So as an autistic, you know, we, we do have these special interests that we, we just cannot drop and we can't stop spending hours and hours on. And so, because neurodiversity is my special interest, it's really given me the strength to just speak up and, and share about this so that other people who may be neurodivergent can identify themselves and accept themselves and love themselves in all the different ways.
Because it's, I think that the key has been when you accept yourself life changes when you're not trying to struggle and fit in with a neuro-typical world and you just be yourself, life just becomes so much easier. So yeah. So I could, I could probably talk for ages. So that's Why we here, oh, I love everything you said so far.
And I could see so many like parallels in our journey and the last bit that you said, like why it's important. And I think that's also from neuro-typical other people around me when I got into this topic of, of giftedness and then ADHD and the whole neuro-diversity topic, then people are like, why, why does it matter? Why do you need to know?
Like, you're almost 40? Why does it matter now to have an ADHD diagnosis? Like you manage life so far? Like what does it, how does quality of life improves? And you already touched a little bit on that. I think I'd like to say that the reason why I think it's so important is because when I didn't know much about adults with a neurodivergent brain,
what I didn't realize was when I was working with certain people that, you know, for long periods of time, I was questioning, how come, how can we just have this relationship, which is very comfortable where they can open up. So I was helping people who maybe had anxiety, depression, disorganization in their life problems with relationships, you know,
and not feeling understood, or just lack of harmony. And it's these things, that's what can happen when you don't realize why you're behaving the way you're behaving. And so I'm not trying to necessarily change anyone's behavior, but I just want to shine a light on who they are so that when they have the awareness, they've got a choice in how they interact with other people in their lives.
So it is it's really important. And also when you, when you know yourself better, it means you can make better choices so that you can reach your potential. Right? Yeah. I really resonate with that. It's so important for people to know, even if it sounds scary in the beginning, like, oh, it's a label. And also for parents that are shy to get their kids evaluated or assessed that they think,
oh, I don't want my child to have a label and be like stamped or put into a box, but I believe it probably helps children. It's not their whole identity obviously, but just to know why in certain situations they struggle more or they need to have different needs, right. And if you have a language for it, you can actually express it.
Exactly. And, and, you know, it's kind of the difference is they can either struggle through school and life or they can be in slow with their nature. And so if a parent knows their nature, rather than trying to fit them into the way society wants them to fit, why it's just become so much easier for the child and for the whole family.
And, you know, this is all we have day to day it's, it's our experience of life. Isn't it. So if we don't, if we don't intervene earlier, that's a lot of years of going through conflict and sadness and frustration for both parties, you know? And that's, I just see that as unnecessary. And it's just because of lack of knowledge and I guess,
yes, the sad thing is that that lack of understanding has meant that we are given one perception when picture of what neurodiversity might mean. And I do feel there's more negativity around it than positivity. And that that's a real shame because then that, like you said, it puts parents off from kind of going for an assessment because it's kind of a label,
as you've said, and the label is more often than not stigmatized. I think that there's a shift going on at the moment. That's how I feel that a lot of people now, adults that are successful are speaking up about it and sharing that they have a diagnosis, but there's been so long that it's been looked upon as a really kind of negative or,
you know, this, this is the end of your hopes and dreams kind of thing. I think it's the beginning. It's the beginning of potential. Yeah. And I would like to talk a little bit more about the stereotypes and the stigma, as you said, like when, I guess even two years ago, if somebody told me or said the word autism,
you know, the Raymond pops into your mind the same as for gifted people, right? The first word pops in is maybe Einstein and it's all male and they're all, they're all white. And so, and also ADHD. It's usually, you know, little boys that act out. And so a lot of girls and especially also kids or people of color don't get identified.
And you say, you only realized in your forties that you were actually autistic. And could you just say a little bit, like, what were the things you could relate to that you did research on? Because you said, I like to talk, I can hold eye contact with Yeah. For me. So the way I, I now understand that I fit into that TRIBE is that I can socialize,
but it doesn't come naturally. So for example, if I'm talking to someone 1, 2, 1, that's a lot easier and manageable. Now, if you then, if that person is then newer divergence, it's a very good experience because I feel like we understand each other and we could talk for quite a long time. Whereas if it was a neuro-typical person, I'd probably struggle a bit more because I'm concentrating on,
okay, how do I do the small talk and make them feel comfortable? So that's in a small, you know, one-to-one situation when I'm in a big group, it becomes really over the whelming. So again, looking at it in a social perspective, yeah, I do not feel comfortable. It's really hard work. I can do it, but it's like a lot of effort I have to really concentrate.
I really have to try and make it smooth. So it doesn't come naturally. Doesn't mean I can't do it. You know, after 40 years of practice, you can do anything, right. A lot of effort. And so the question then becomes, you know, should I be doing it at all because it's draining my energy and my energy could be used more helpfully in some other way.
So when you put me in a group of people who want to learn, that's totally different, you know, I'm energized by that because I'm able to share something I'm interested in, then it's not difficult. I actually, I really love that. I love sharing knowledge and I love to help people live that life. So that becomes easy or easier at the very least,
then things like sensitivity. That's something that was apparent to me in terms of the overwhelm of external stimuli. So I didn't really notice this for a long time. And it was only when I read about it, that I noticed it. So examples would be, I can smell things that people can't smell. So for example, we had a downstairs cloak room with a toilet and I used to smell something in that room that no one else could smell.
And it wasn't like a crazy smell. Like it wasn't obvious, but I could just constantly smell it low level. And it used to really drive me mad for months. And we eventually got down to the reason that there was a smell is because when the builders come and one of them hadn't capped off the sewer brunches. So there was this smell that was coming in,
but no one else could smell it so I could smell it. I was very hyper sensitive to the smell. And on the flip side of it, you know, like right now I've got candle burning. Cause that just makes the room feels calm. And I just feel really happy. Noise noise is so powerful to me. You know, I'm so sensitive to it.
If, if I'm listening to really lovely, calm music or very uplifting music, my whole energy changes if I'm out with, in a restaurant or, you know, when I used to go to a nightclub, wow. It was so overwhelming. But I just thought, oh, it's just noisy. Not realizing that other people probably didn't think it was that noisy.
And they were enjoying it. So this sensitivities around sight scent taste, touch, you know, like I can't stand labels in my clothes up the Cutler out. If there's a tiny little bit of thread, I can feel it. So it's things like this that you don't really, I think most people don't talk about with, you know, it doesn't come up in conversation is when you start looking at these little things that you kind of know,
oh, okay. Right. That fits into that criteria actually sensitivity. What else? I guess the way we think, you know, the thinking out of the box, thinking differently to the rest of the world and, and almost the need to question everything just because, you know, it's, we've been told this who says, that's correct. That you get less.
Yeah. Very much. And also, yeah. This need for answers or why, why, why? And in neuro-typical world, this can also yeah. Or as a child, you know, it's like, because I said so, Yeah. It wasn't that frustrating though. Like frustrated when someone says it just is, because I think it feels to me from my experience that we're naturally curious to investigate and know for ourselves how it works or what's possible.
One of the things that really, really is a shame is that I asked my kids, do you enjoy school? I asked all kids, you know, they, they come into come across, do you enjoy school? And so many of them say, no, I hate school. And I asked the why, and they always pretty much say it's because it's boring or the teachers are not so great.
So it's that thing about stimulation. They want to be stimulated and they're not. And that's, you know, learning is about sort of stimulating the child to want to learn for themselves. But if you're told no, it just says this memorize it. That's, I think there's a certain skill that's not being valued. And that natural curiosity isn't being encouraged,
which is a real shame. Yeah. And from what I gather now is that a lot of the gifted children are children. You know, that, that are actually very able and highly intelligent. They're not the good students. Exactly. As you say, they questioned, they questioned the teacher, they questioned the way of being taught. And so there is a difference between high achievers and,
you know, the gifted brain and, and some of the gifted people, they started university. And then they, they realized this is not what they actually saw. It would be, and they're not getting stimulated at that drop out of university, out of school. So, and again, there's this stigma or this prejudice that if you're gifted, if you're intelligent,
you'll figure it out. Like you don't need any additional tasks or any stimuli from the outside through school. And so there's a lot of, and I think there's also a lot of overlap. I think, you know, that the key there is that there's a need, that's not being met in that trial. It's not that they can't get through necessarily.
It's just that there's this huge need for their brain wants to investigate and grow. And so if you're in a situation where you're limited, then that's quite painful actually, because a need is, it's not something you want, you actually need it. It's essential. It's kind of like breathing. You need it. So I do question that, and I don't think necessarily that not in the UK anyway,
the system is set up for us so well, because as you say, when you question things it's not necessarily saving, it's got a, you should be sitting quietly and listening because we know better. And yet my experience watching my children, but my eldest is very good at computer. Just like his dad and at school, he loves computing, but more often than not,
he's done a lot of the things that have been taught. And so he'll spend the, you know, the end of the class kind of go around helping the other children or sometimes suggesting things to the teacher. And so the teacher's like, wow, great. You know, I'll share this with everyone. So, you know, that's kind of the wrong way round.
I think, you know, that the child should be allowed to be led as well as be able to lead others. So we often try to look outside of school for ways to stimulate them. And so I think if you can do that, it's helpful because as long as you're feeding that need in some way, it might not necessarily be coming through the school.
Yeah. At school, I hear a lot of, you know, children that the behaviors that are being expressed really from frustration and a lot of anxiety, you know, not, not understanding and that's not a good way for a child to live here. And this is why we have so many mental health problems I believe out there. Yeah. Oh,
I have so many questions, so many thoughts that the process, I loved this conversation, but I want to tie it back a little bit around you working with the adults in your sphere, because I feel there's resources for children and people really targeting kids or parents and a lot like you through their children, they realize about themselves. So I really want to give a space then for the adults,
the parents. And if you don't have children, you might never find out if you don't come across this topic, but by coincidence. Yeah. So the, and this is exactly why I chose to go down the route of working with adults primarily because before I was working, I was yoga mindfulness to kids at school. Many of them would be autistic or ADHD,
or just simply anxious, highly anxious. But like you've just said, I started realizing that, although there's not masses of support, there's more support for children and parents. And there's this, like I said earlier, there's this huge generation of adults that never even knew what neurodiverse never would have even read about. It would not have been diagnosed. And they've gone through life experiencing a lot of low self-esteem,
low self-confidence broken relationships in an ill health, because all of that, it always manifests in the body one way or another things like headaches, fibromyalgia, like chronic fatigue, you know, the damage is long lasting. So I saw that. Yeah, there's these adults, that one, they don't even know what neurodiversity is to that. They probably wouldn't want to go for an assessment necessarily because the stigma around it and also the number three,
if you do in this country, want to go for an assessment. There's a pretty big waiting list in years. So you'd have to go privately. And so that takes a bit of a leap, I guess, to want to do that. You've got to be pretty sure. And yeah. And then even after the diagnosis, there's complete lack of support,
you know, where, where do you turn for strategies that actually work to change your life for the better? And that's when I realized, oh my gosh, all the things I've done, all the things I've learned that I've gone through that. And I'm, this is why I'm here. I've got the evidence that it works because I'm happy. I feel very fulfilled.
I consider myself successful. Yeah, I've got happy family, happy relationship. This is possible for all those people that haven't got to that stage yet. And I can help them get there. And that's, to me that's really fulfilling. And that's why I want to do that. It means that I can help others who were in the same situation. I was few years ago,
just progress so much faster. So they're not wasting any more of their life because time is so short in this life. Right? It is. And I love, I think we have a similar approach or for me, it was also, I got into the tidying and then into this whole field of giftedness and neurodivergence, and now I'm like, oh,
I can actually combine this. This makes so much sense. And you also would yoga mindfulness practice. You're a relationship coach. And you're a tidy and coach, you do wellness for the whole individual. You know, whether, whether you've even got one aspect that you need support in at the end of the day, if you're struggling a lot. And I think that's when people reach out,
right, they've hit a point where they can't do it themselves. And I just see so many ways in, right. And that's why all these different methods work. And it's just about picking which one is it that you need right now? Because every little change I see improves someone's life. So what is your speciality as a relationship coach? Like, how do I need to picture this?
So how can neuro divergent people profit from working with you? The interesting thing was, so I did my training as a life coach. It was called 100. So it was Tony Robbins and Cloe Madonnas. And it wasn't for neuro diverse families. It was just for everyone, right? I mean, neurodiverse means all brain types anyway, doesn't it? So it covers neurotypicals.
But what I realized when I identified as neurodivergent, I realized that there's a difference in the way neurotypicals and neurodivergence speak in a way and the way they interact. And so clients in the past have had these problems because they didn't understand each other. So one major part of what I can offer that other coaches can't or counselors can't offer is that I can speak both languages in a sense,
and I can then translate and be a bridge for them. And that is really important because it's not that the intention and the love isn't there in a relationship, the problem is this misunderstandings build up between them. And when they're not clear, you know, like clutter in a house, when they're not cleared, it becomes a problem, right? It becomes a big,
a headache, a package and what you're experiencing all the time. So when the work would me both feel understood and know that both of their needs are going to get met. And all I need to do is translate for them in a very calm, safe space. Whereas if they're trying to do on their own, obviously it's, if they could have overcome it,
they would have, it's not from lack of trying. A lot of the time they've gone for relationship counseling, but the relationship counselor is not neurodivergent. So they can only see it from one aspect. And, you know, one client said to me, you know, we've been for relationship counseling and it made things worse because the counselor was kind of biased towards one side or the other.
And that's no good because the relationship has two people, right? So you need to make sure that both people are heard and both people's needs are met. And that's where I see that I come in differently is that I don't know that many people who understand both worlds. Wow. I love it. I haven't really thought about it in this way, but this makes total sense to really be a bridge between different variants of how brains work and how people communicate.
I always see myself as a translator between the scientists and management and administration, because they speak the same language, but it's not the same language. Right. Different words have different meanings. And so I think this is amazing. So I would like to ask you about the tidying aspect, because that's something obviously I fell in love with as well. And you mentioned something that you discovered Marie Kondo,
and then it changed your life. May I ask there's two types of people that become tidy and coaches, the ones that were always tidy and it came natural to them and they love doing other people's structure and tidying. And then there's the other ones that actually struggled all their life, keeping some sort of tidy space. And then they figure out this method or a method,
and then they want to help others. So may I ask which category do you fall into? I Would say I love to have a calm, tidy space. I definitely not extreme. I love minimalism, but I can't live in a minimalist house purely because of, you know, the rest of my family. So I kind of have a more laid back tidy,
I guess. I think that the key for me is if everything has a home and it just makes life easier, that's the main goal, you know? So for me, I've always wanted a tidy clean, minimal home, and it sometimes needed, you know, when you have kids, the toys just build up, right. And when you live with someone else,
you have to respect that it's also their home as well. So really I think what I naturally enjoy had started disappearing a little bit amongst everyone else's needs. So I just needed someone to kind of give me a guidance when it came two, it's not just me. I've got all these other people that I've got to interact with. How can we live more harmoniously in terms of the space that we own?
And I did try, you know, I try to help my family declutter and it worked to an extent, and then I had a big realization, which Marie does say in her book anyway, about, you know, you shouldn't really tardy anyone. Else's stuff, it's their stuff. You just had your own stuff. So that's what I did. And I just role model that I just kept my things,
tidy, compartmentalize their things. And, you know, they started following suit. So a hundred percent, it's about being true to yourself and looking after your own stuff. And then that enables you to be a model for the rest of the people in your world, whether they want to follow you or not is their choice. But I believe that they could see the benefits.
So they just naturally followed. So yeah, just thinking about my past career, I was a buyer of men's clothing and part of that job was Polish scheduling and critical puffs to make sure that everything arrived on time and all the different dates were hit on time. But we also had to manage huge amounts of clothing, you know, categories of clothing. And we had to organize them in this space and you had to be able to find things very quickly.
So I just love the fact that everything had a system and it had a home, even though the volume was quite crazy and it was sort of like thousands of different units. So I think I've got a natural tendency towards that. Yeah. I think a lot of people, they start their tidying journey because they want to have a tidy home, a calm surrounding and well,
for me, at least I was kind of naive starting with my sock drawer and realize, oh my God, there's so much that comes out and it's really facing yourself and your values and who are you and whoever want to be. And I think reading through your website, you also, it's not so much about the tidying. The physical tidying outcome is obviously beautiful and helpful,
but the whole journey is also very special. Do you want to share a little bit about what can tidying bring two somebodies life? Yeah. I mean the word journey is exactly it, right? It's kind of a journey into who you are and how you got here. And is it where you wanted to be? And that allows you then to be a bit more intentional with the rest of your life,
because you're choosing what you want for your future. Now it might be via your belongings, but the thought process is the same. Isn't it? It's kind of saying this is the life that I want to lead. Will these objects that surround me, support me to reach that and live that life or is it holding me back? And so yeah, you kind of have to go through your whole life to realize what is aligned to you and what isn't,
what were things that other people gave to you or put upon you that you couldn't say no two at one point, but now you have a choice to say, no, this isn't right for me. And it's okay. You're not being rude. You're not trying to be horrible. It's just, you're trying to look after yourself so that when you're at your best,
it means you can give the world your best as well. And that's all the people in your life, right? Oh, I love the way you're phrasing. It is how I feel and think, but cannot put it into those beautiful words. You said it perfectly. Oh yeah. Really choosing where you want to go and who you want to be.
And then letting go of all the rest. And I think for me, especially before doing the Marie Kondo method, that thought never occurred to me. I didn't even know that tidying is a skill you can learn. I thought that was something you're either born with or not like this tidying mindset. Well, I think is definitely a muscle that one that you can exercise.
And when I've worked with people that have undiagnosed, I'd say undiagnosed neurodiversity, the executive dysfunction does mean that they are not able to be tidy. It's not because they don't want to be, but because of the way the brain is wired, they need a bit of external help to figure out the steps. And that's where we kind of come in, isn't it,
we can break it down, make it achievable for them. It's not that they don't want to do it. It's just that they can't do it on their own, but once you've taught them the skill and they do over and over again, they then do have the skill and the ability. So it's not a one-off thing is that it's not, you,
you know, you come in and do it for them. And then you're gone. I know some organizers do work like that, but that's not how I see. I see it as you want to teach them a skill that they can carry for life. Yes, absolutely. And I also think again, that was probably also my is I was always a little bit ashamed.
I'm like, well, I'm actually doing quite well in school. Like I'm quite smart. Why can't I know, keep my house tidy. And I was just, I didn't realize probably I knew, I thought I need more storage space or a bigger home, but actually you just need less stuff first and then you can fit it all into your existing drawers.
So yeah, breaking it down into bite-size and really giving an approach of where do you actually start if the whole house is already in turmoil, there's a way to start without being overwhelmed. And then when you think there's the tidy people, and then there's the untidy people. And then what comes to mind is messy, which is a whole other mental health issue.
And what we're talking about here, if you have ADHD, you're not, you're not a messy, you're basically just as you say, executive functioning where you really need a little bit more guidance, But you know, being part of the association of professional declutters and organizers in the UK, there are people with hoarding challenges and yes, often they are people who have ADHD or autism.
And I believe it's because of a long-term challenge that it's led to that severity. You know, so I'll offer one data. If someone had intervened earlier, maybe these things wouldn't have happened. Not saying that that's the only reason because you know, there's lots of reasons why boarding may happen. But, you know, I just think the earlier people get a bit of support,
the less likely things will escalate. And I really love talking to you and creating awareness, you know, not for giftedness and autism and ADHD, but also creating awareness that there are people out there that help you tidy your own home. As you said, you can hire somebody that comes in and rearranges things beautifully. It might not have a long lasting effect.
Then there's people like us that come and help you and coach you through the process of doing this yourself. But I think there's still, and I think there's cultural differences in the U S I think it's more likely to ask for such help and support. Whereas here, I think in Switzerland is still, and especially the German speaking world where there's more of a shame factor having to ask for help in your own household,
but just so that people know you can actually call somebody and have a chat first to see if working together will actually help and improve your quality of life. There's definitely no need to feel ashamed because there's lots of people that have this problem, I think because it's not spoken about, you know, that's the issue, but the strength and reaching out and asking for help.
And, you know, that's how we can change things where we're not meant to do everything on our own. You know, we are connected. There's lots of people who want to help. So it's just about finding the right person that you feel comfortable with because yes, it is very private stuff and it is inviting someone to your home is not that comfortable.
So you have to feel that you trust them and that you feel safe with them. For sure. Yeah. And You don't have to tidy first before somebody. Yeah. They often say that I, I must tidy up people. So if somebody feels they want to work with you or get to know you a little bit more, where can they find you?
They can find me via my website. So that's www ASPE coach.com or they can find me on Facebook if they type in ASPE coach or they can type in Kanan tech as my handle and they can find me there. Perfect. And is there anything else you would like to share? Is there anything you think is important for people to know or something you wish you knew earlier?
I guess I just want people to know that actually being neurodivergent is also, it feels like the end of the world initially, but it's kind of like grieving, you know, you, you, you go through this process and there is possible if you surround yourself with the right people and the right mindset, you can use this to your advantage and flourish and thrive.
But if you are kind of left to medical professionals, not all of them, but more often than not because of exactly. As you said, the data, the research that's based on his Mo more often white males, then you maybe get a less supportive response. Look for the support yourself as well. Don't just rely on what you might get magically because we are a whole being,
and it's important to look at all aspects and connect with people who are like-minded that makes big difference. And we're out there, they're out there. Right? Oh, thank you so much. It has been a pleasure getting to know you speaking to you, and I hope we're staying connected and Thank you so much. Now I do. It was really interesting.
I love having these interesting conversations with like-minded people. So thanks for having me and yeah, for sure. We'll, we'll keep in touch. Thank You very much. Bye. Every time I relisten to those interviews, when I edit them, I'm so amazed and have these beautiful conversations that I'm having. And I feel so blessed being able to make connections with these amazing human beings around the world,
sharing the passion for the similar work that I'm trying to do here and raising awareness and just trying to help somebody else figure out who they are so that they can live their best life. And that by knowing who they are increasing their quality of life tremendously, and it really is empowering. And then also sharing all these tools like learning how to tidying. It sounds really stupid in a way,
but he can really transform somebody's life. And so if you feel you would like to start your own tidying journey, I'm encouraging you to do so. And if you feel intimidated by this task, please reach out to a consultant that can help you. And especially in the field of non neuro-typical, there are a few consultants out there that you can connect with.
So this is also what I'm here for. I'm really trying to create resources and a repository for you to go and seek your own personal arsenal of coaches, consultants, and mentors. I will also want to use this opportunity to share with you that Kanan is actually looking for participants for a small research project that she's doing. It's called a hundred soul sisters,
and she is interviewing a hundred intelligent women who are successful in their line of work and business, but overwhelmed and or anxious by day to day life. There are two intentions for her research. Firstly, she would like to understand better the specific challenges experienced by those who think and feel differently, two most people. And secondly, also to identify those whose challenges might possibly be due to them being neurodivergent,
but do not know it, everything will be confidential and the information will help her with an online course that she is co-creating for artistic growth so that they can receive appropriate interventions at an earlier age, as well as her coaching services for adult. So in exchange for your time and help, she is offering you a thank you mini coaching session, and to book a market research call with her,
please contact her via her website or her Facebook page. And this is all provided into the show, note links. So please feel free to reach out to her, her and support her in her endeavor. So with that said, I hope you enjoy this episode. And I'm still, I would say a lay person. And I still feel like an imposter talking about this topic.
When I first learned about this, I was like, oh, I need to go and study psychology. I have no clue. But then again, me going on this journey as a lay person and reaching out and really sifting through the whole vast amount of information and just picking people and just curating guests for you that can offer for you answers. I hope I'm doing you a favor by doing so.
And I hope you'll also forgive me if I use terms and words sometimes interchangeably, whether it should not be used in that way, or if I use them incorrectly in the beginning, because I'm also here learning and figuring out what are the difference in the nuances. And there's also changes in how people say certain things. And I do want to be obviously respectful and not using the wrong terms,
but I also can let my fear of saying something wrong, just be silent. So for me, I have obviously imposter syndrome and also there's this underlying perfectionism that I want to get this right the first time I do it, but it is a learning process for me too. And so I hope you bear with me if this is a little bit more of a Rocky start in the beginning,
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