Mastering the Art of Cloning Plants

Different plants, different voices, and different ways of having conversations.

It's time to get personal with plant medicine. Welcome to Getting Personal with Plant Medicine. I'm your host, Diana, and I am joined once again by the fabulous Frankie Green Thumbs. How are you doing today, Frank? I am awesome. So recently you had an event, which was amazing.

And at that event, I got a clone, which I'm like super excited about, but I'm also super concerned. So we're going to talk about this today. So you told me just to give it a little bit of water every day. I've been doing that. I'm a little bit concerned that I'm giving it too much water, but I give it fish water with like fish fertilizer in it. Okay. I got that at the event too. Well, it's a combination. I do both the fish sauce, like I combine that only once a week for my plants.

But then I also have the fish water that we use when we clean out the tank. So i've been using that so let's start with that part of it what do you think about that should it just be like regular distilled water or does it matter so the best easy quick solution water i can give anybody you know the deer park water yeah that is uh what's called reverse osmosis water right or i'm sorry no not deer park royal farms i was gonna say they're part really Really?

Royal Farms brand water is reverse osmosis. Really? I did not know that. It's actually the best water you can use for plants. They have water systems. Essentially what commercial growers use is reverse osmosis water system. They're very expensive, but there's a reason for it because they're worth it.

Some of the cleanest healthiest water you can have for plants it is it's great water, i didn't think about that and you've you so what's happening with the water right now is you've kind of fallen into the trap that every new grower falls into even when i train people is we all have an urge to say how can i make this grow better and faster before we've ever grown anything or see it not grow better or faster.

So we want to add nutrients and blast it with this. And I saw this online and let's add fish water. And I found some- I feel personally attacked right now. No, no, no, no. I'm disturbing. It's everybody. When I was new, I was going to garden stores and just loading up on nutrients. I didn't even know what they did, but it said there's an NPK reading. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. NPK? Yep. So it's nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium.

It's three numbers on pretty much any bag of nutrients. Those are the three macro nutrients that most plants, especially cannabis, needs to be able to grow. And then there's a bunch of micronutrients like calcium, magnesium, zinc, all these other things. So that's separate from the soil? That's what the soil contains. It's what the soil contains. So you're looking at the bag of soil for this. Correct. Okay. Or nutrients or add-ons or fertilizers.

So what we do is we go and say, all right, my plant needs nitrogen during the vegetative stage, during the young stage, right? So we add a bunch of fish poop. Okay. And then we add a whole bunch of nitrogen, and then our leaves turn brown, yellow, and we're like, oh, no, what's happening? I need to add more nitrogen. There's not enough nutrients. We've been burning the plant from the beginning. But that's okay because it's an easy fix.

The good thing with natural grows and living soil is you can fix most things with just water. Okay. Okay. So just regular watering. You said you watered it this morning so it's not too heavy, not too light. Okay. The easiest way to kind of learn watering is that field test. You know what I mean? If it feels light and dry, it needs some water. You're going to notice as the plant grows, it drinks a little quicker.

The difference between this plant and this plant is you go out of this the same amount you water this probably three or four times a day but this you would do it once a day okay once every two days okay all right so this is only like a week since you gave it to me right so let's talk about the lighting all right i have a grow light it's like rectangle or square i don't know the wattage I tried to find it, but I ordered it too long ago for me to find the thing.

And I use that with a combination of it being right in the window. But I also have like additional grow lights that I can like attach to things that are like red and blue. And those are supposed to help during a vegetative state. Should I add those? So unless you're going to use the lights for the whole grow, if you're using light as supplemental lighting, because we're going to put this outside or we have it by a window, I wouldn't concern yourself too much as...

As far as how much lighting we're getting okay obviously it's important they have direct light but i would focus more on how long they're getting light okay that's that was gonna be my next question like how long right now i think i i'm doing like eight hours yep so that's why, that's why it looks like this too much late no way too little oh no okay all right so So, weed is a photoperiod plant. Okay. And what that means is the plant's going to grow, and its life cycle is based

on how much light it gets. Okay. Okay, most. There's autoflowering plants, which is a whole different category. And then there's photoperiod. I'm now learning about, like, I really now think I understand the difference between autoflowering and non- What's the non-autoflowering? What do you call the non-autoflowering ones?

Photoperiod. Photoperiod, okay. So because it's a photoperiod plant, what happens is if it gets 14 or more hours of light, you'll be in a vegetative growth stage. Indoors, you typically want to stay closer to 16 to 18.

Okay, 16 to 18. now outside you want to get it outside with more than 14 and a half hours from first light to last light not sunrise to sunset sunset but first light to last light so what that means is sunrise might be at 6 45 in the morning but it's light at 6 15 right you could walk outside you could see It's not dark. Because it's a photoperiod plant and light bounces off things, even though the sun isn't up yet, it's bouncing off the trees. It's in the air. The plant knows it's up.

So you have that first light, last light. Once that's over 14 and a half hours, which was April 18th, the day before the event, you can put them outside. So you could put this outside and you would start to see a little more growth. Anything less than 14, you're gonna start to trigger a flowering response, a flowering hormone in the plant. Indoors, the ideal number is 12, but outdoor it'll start when you get below 14, which is going to start to create those buds and we're no longer going to

grow branches and stems. We're going to start producing those flowers. All right. So I think I know the answer to this, but this is just for everyone. This is for everyone's benefit. Why do you have holes in the cup? Is that to give it more aeration in the soil?

Yes. So there's two rhymes I tell every new grower. And if you remember these two things, it's going to solve a lot of problems with your soil. Okay. Where the water flows, the roots will grow. Okay. So it sounds simple, but a lot of pots have holes just at the bottom.

Okay. And if the water can only flow down to those bottom holes and drain at those bottom holes, the roots are only, for the most part, going to grow down towards those bottom holes, which means your growth above, you notice how this one doesn't have any... I see this one over here, so we can see it. There's no holes in this? Yeah. And you see how it grows really not much wider than the pot? Right. Because the roots are only growing down towards these bottoms.

But if there was holes in the side... It'll grow. It'll grow out, right? So what's up top is always going to reflect what's on the bottom. So where the water flows, the roots will grow. And then healthy roots, healthy fruits. So every little living thing needs three things. Water, food, and normally I would say light, but roots need lack of light. We need darkness to produce fruits. so water food which is the nutrients in the soil that NPK we talked about and then lack of light on the plant,

Anything that gets light produces a branch or stone. Anything that doesn't is a root. So really the only difference between up top and down below is how much light it's getting. Does that make sense? Yeah. So I'm just confused. What if, so I'm not giving in enough light and I live in a place that's like kind of like a dungeon. Like I don't get a lot of natural light. So if I did, well, I'm not going to move this one outside because I've already started the indoor process.

But if I had it on the outside, how would I make sure that it gets extra light without giving it like another like supplemental lighting situation? Well, now it's it's late enough in the year that you can put it outside and the day is long enough. So even if there's like an what you would call it, like like an overhang over the situation, the porch or balcony, whatever you want to call it. As long as you can get three or four hours of direct light, that's all the plant

will really need. Three or four. Now, the more direct light you get, the taller the plant will get, the bigger it will grow. But three to four hours of direct light, again, the rest of the light is going to come from reflecting off other surfaces and just being outside during the daytime. There's what's called gorilla grows, which were a lot more popular when it was illegal.

But the idea behind this is you go out to a forest somewhere, you put a plant where helicopters can't see, and more often than not, they're in wooded areas, heavily trees, something like that. So they might only get a couple hours of daylight a day, but that's by design. You know what I mean? Because the UV rays from the sun penetrate through the top canopy of a lot of plants, which most indoor lights can't do.

So the sun's a lot more powerful. It reflects off other objects and other things a lot more. So you don't need that direct light all day. All right. Someone at your event told me that I should probably not even try it outside. It could be difficult. It's definitely, it's a different list of problems than what you get indoors. Okay. Growing isn't the easiest thing in the world. And you realize that after your first time growing. Indoor has pros and cons. Outdoor has pros and cons.

The strain you have, the tropical rumps, is one of the easiest plants to grow. So not just indoors, but especially outdoors. I've grown it. This will be the third year outside. I've harvested over like two and a half pounds of it and maybe cut a half an ounce off due to mold or pest. Compared to most plants outdoors, that's incredible. So it's the mold-free, the pest-free. Outdoors is a very, very strain-specific type of grow just based on your environment.

Maryland's tough, but it's definitely not impossible. Because of the weather changing all the time, right? Yep. And the humidity during that late stage is during that flowering. Right. Okay. So you brought up what I was going to ask about next. So you said mold and insects and pests and things like that. So obviously my leaves, I mean, people can't tell, but they're pretty brown and frayed at the ends. And with my other plants, I would trim them or pull it off gently.

But that is not recommended, right? Not yet. I would let them grow out a little bit. Because what you'll see is some of these lowers right here. This was indoors. Doesn't get much. It's in a crowded room. Okay. So the lowers are barely getting any light at all. These will eventually be these little ones. So it'll grow up past that and pluck them off a little later. All right. So let's talk about getting it to the point. Now, when you gave this to me, you said in three weeks to repot it.

So what should I take into consideration before I repot? So I always look at the roots and I look at just the overall health of the plant.

Easiest way to tell if your plant's hungry, needs more nutrients, or should be repotted is to look at those lower leaves. If you start seeing any yellowing, any discoloring on the lower leaves, it's usually a sign that it's ready for more food, more soil. So whether you're adding more on top and amending the soil or transplanting it into a bigger pot, that's one of the easiest ways to tell.

So you should put topsoil, not to cut you off, but to put topsoil on it before moving it into a bigger container? One or the other. Some people, you know what I mean, if we're in our final pot. And it's, you know, I don't want to transplant this again. I don't have something bigger to transplant into. Adding amendments or top layer in the soil is always a good option.

Otherwise, if you have something bigger to transplant into, you'll see the most explosive growth when you transplant those first couple weeks because it's all healthy, new soil, unused. It's all fresh to the plant. So you see a lot of growth that first 14 days while it's adjusting. What happens after that? So you're saying this is what it should look like. That's what this should look like in how many weeks? About three weeks in.

This clone was taken about three weeks ago or so. But you also notice it's in a little bit more soil, right? I'm nervous. I don't know if mine's going to get, I'm not trying to be negative, but I just don't have the best luck when it comes to growing things. So I'm just like, I hope I get to that point. Like, what can I do to make sure that I get to that point? Well, the first thing I think would help the most would be going from 8 to 16 hours of light. Okay. Or 18, if you can.

So I should really have it in a closet, not next to my window, if I ever want to get sleep. Ah, yeah. That's going to be your best bet. And that's why a lot of people who grow indoors end up with a tent, because it contains the environment. It's not just about preventing bugs or people seeing it.

It's also you know not everyone wants to sleep with a led light blasting in their room you know what i mean so it's i mean that helps it also helps with light leaks during flowering and stuff like that this is a very difficult plant to grow in a windowsill a lot of people try it a lot of people a lot do not have the results that they were hoping for yeah i know i was like well let's I figured with the grill light, it was like enough.

And then when I saw that it was browning, I was like, oh, did I give it too much light? Because that's usually the case with like every other plant that I have in my room. It's either I over watered it or gave it too much light. So I bought the light a long time ago to kind of boost, you know, for some of it. And it worked pretty well, but I'm like, I don't know if I should be. So I guess I do need to put it in the closet with the tent.

And then different kind of lights so the lights you have could work i don't know how i'm going to put it in the clock like i don't know where i'll plug it in i guess i could figure it out, but anyway sorry go ahead tell me what the typical setup is once again because i know you mentioned it on a previous episode but for those who don't know you sell all of these products and you help people set it up and everything like that so what would someone need to start off with this clone.

So simplest setup, I mean, if we go back to, you know, what does every living thing need, right? We need food, light, soil, and air, right? If you have those three things, you can grow the plant. Saying that a tent like we just talked about would make a big deal and containing that light and making sure you can have enough light throughout the day. So a tent and light, I mean, that's growing 101. If you have those two things,

it's not going to be the perfect conditions. It's not going to be commercial conditions or anything like that. And you're always going to have people that are going to argue, no, you need this. Yes, that would be a great addition.

But if you're just starting out and want to start cheap, get a good light, you can go cheaper on a tent and get some decent soil and you will be able to produce, a very good product and it's as simple as that you know what i mean so why do we need the tent well the tent is again it's going to contain the light help with humidity temperature control in any way so that is as annoying of a question this is yes it can once you get it down but also So everyone's house is different, right?

As the seasons change, as the night gets cold and you turn your AC off and the day is hot, so you have it on, your house gets drier and more humid and hotter and cooler. And as these things change, again, kind of going back to the tent, the cheaper the tent, it can be a little more difficult to have that adjust while you're not home or while you're at work or whatever. But it is going to help keep it more consistent. a little more stable than your house or being outside or something random.

So, I have a hydroponic garden. I know this isn't, like, exactly related here, because we're talking about clones. But if I had seeds, would that be a better situation to grow that in than, like, just throwing it in some soil on my patio? So, you could do that with the clone also. Really? Tell me more. Say more words, as they could say. So, but essentially it would grow the same way as your seed does. Okay. Hydroponically, it just feeds directly to the root system, which.

So, you can take it from this right here and put it into the hydroponic system? Yes. What? Yeah. So, and that's really as simple as. And I've done it before. You know, it's not recommended that you mess with the roots too much. Okay, yeah. But you could lightly or delicately wash off the roots.

Mm-hmm. place that into your hydroponic system and those roots will just start getting fed by the hydro system now what happens when you switch from soil to hydro is obviously i don't do it a lot or hardly ever i've done it a handful of times and it's about 60 40 60 success and 40 it just kind of craps out from nutrient shock or just the complete change in environment overnight because you can't slowly introduce that right right but you can slowly do it opposite like you can take it

from hydro to soils a little slower sometimes if you rinse off the roots yeah i don't know i was reading about soil shock last night so i was like because i'm trying to decide if i should take my lemon balm in into soil but so no you don't think so either way i try not to yeah as much as possible you know whatever you start in, Try and ride that out. But you can do it if you want to experiment.

That's one of the fun things about growing, especially if you already have a setup that has a light that has long enough with your hydroponic system. That could be a good option. Instead of buying a tent and doing something else, however, I'm a hater with hydroponics. We've been soil all the way, 100%. Yeah. But. We've only got it to grow herbs, really, like sage. And stuff like that because like i said we live in a dungeon so it's kind of hard.

To grow those things like outside you know i'm just trying to think like so you did the tent just for one clone like a whole tent situation or you can put they like grow bigger so obviously they grow bigger but yeah but i did have another question about that so like when you have other plants a lot of times you'll see like little ones pop up on like little propagations and stuff like that like they why doesn't cannabis do that or does it so that i mean that's kind of dependent on your soil okay

or if the other plants have anything else that that's kind of come with them, like i know squash right i grew squash by accident last year that's a random one to do my accent so my buddy brought us he's like hey i got a squash do you want it i was like no you know he just kind of left it and then i was like well it's got all these seeds let's throw them in the garden see what happens turns out squash will overtake everything yeah but

they produce all these big leaves and then one random vine out the side right it looks like two or three different plants but it's all one so there's a lot of stuff that ends up like that. My specific blend of living soil does have what's called a cover crop built into it. So you will see clover come out of it when you purchase it from the store. So some living soil is really, really healthy. And if you make living soil from home, more often than not, people will add their own cover crop.

So you'll see other plants grow out of the soil. Clover is a great example because what it does is it actually stores nutrients. So it will hold nitrogen for the plant for later. Oh, really? Yep. And it's also an early indicator of nutrient deficiencies or anything like that. So instead of seeing the yellowing on the bottom of your plant, the clover will turn yellow first before the bottom of your plant does.

Wow. So you'll know, all right, we're running low on nitrogen, we're running low on this nutrient based on the clover before it ever affects your plant. And your plant will pull nutrients from the clover in the soil, which is really cool. And there's wormhole after wormhole of other ways to make this work better. Speaking of wormhole, let's talk about living soil. So what exactly is in the soil for people who don't know? So living soil. There's worms in it. Simples, right? Yes.

It's a lot. I just want to make sure I was saying the right thing. There are worms in it, right? Yeah. So it's alive. There's a lot of people that will advertise living soil, but it's more of a super soil.

It'll last two to four months. ideally if you do living soil correctly it's 100 regenerative okay myself i'm on my third year growing with the same soil not adding any more nutrients i have added a couple worms i have added a few gallons on top in the springtime before my plants are in there of just the same soil back on top you can make your own with like a compost right yes yeah, Cloud Culture was actually at our event. Yes. He's going to be at the event

in May. And they're going to be on the show soon too. Well, one of them is. I think he's over three and a half years with the same living soil. Wow. From you? No. He works on his own. Okay. And it's ironic that me and all the guys are put on this event. We didn't know about how each other grow. We just know that, you know, we've all won awards. We all liked growing. And we just got together. It's like, I'm living soil. What about you? I'm living soil.

Wait a minute. This is a common thing, common denominator here. But yeah, living soil, you have worms. You have living microbiology. You have mycelium networks that can be built. Oh, so that's for people that don't know, right? Mushrooms. Yes. Mushrooms are magical. Yes. And not just because some will make you lose.

Right. But in your soil, mushrooms are, in my opinion, one of the healthiest signs of really good soil. A mycelium network, essentially, think of a phone network, right? How you could contact someone down the street or you could, even better, Venmo someone down the street, right? If your friend needs some money for gas, you can send them money real quick. What a mycelium network does for your soil is if this branch needs some more nitrogen or calcium, it can talk to the...

Plant that's over here or the mushroom that's over here or the clove that's over here and say, hey, pass me some of those extra nutrients. And it will happen quicker, more efficiently, more effectively. And that's how you can get really big plants and small little planters like this because it's constantly communicating with the rest of the soil. Wow. I have them in some pots that I, other plants I have, actually quite a few of them.

I'm not sure how that happened, but I'm happy that it did because that means they're doing okay. And they do grow pretty large.

So, all right, that brings me to my, we're circling back to the fish fertilizer because a lot of my plants like that, but you're saying basically not right now on this one? Or what should I do when it comes to the fish water, the fish fertilizer? There's two separate things, but not really, right? Kind of the same thing. Right? So, the only reason I've never been a fan of fish fertilizer is there's a guy that comes to my store often that uses it all the time.

No, no, no, no. He might. Some people rave about it, say it's great. The only reason I've never used it is, as far as marine biology, I couldn't tell you if a fish was healthy or about to die tomorrow. I couldn't tell you. I just don't know enough about it, filtering it out. I haven't done the research for it. Doesn't mean it doesn't work great. But I do know that it is high in nitrogen. Okay.

And seedlings and plants with a smaller root base, like, for example, some of these clones, don't need a lot of nutrients. Okay. Right? We just need moisture and darkness and enough light to give us energy to grow. But do you think that the fish water is hurting this right now? Or do you think it's more about the lack of light? I think the light is the biggest thing. Okay. I don't think the fish water is hurting it. Like, since I've already introduced it to this, should I keep it going or not?

I would just water until you see a little growth. As it grows, if you want to add it in, definitely. Okay. That's another thing. Just knowing the balance and the ratio of fish water to actual fish poo to actual clean water to stuff like that can get tricky. But again. Sounds very tricky. That sounds very scientific. That's part of the fun. We're supposed to be making this easier for people. Well, that's why I make this. That's why I just make the soil.

I said, you know, that's why you do what you do. Right. That's why you offer your special services. And that's why most people wind up hiring you because, yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. It's not a lot, but it's a lot. Like once you get used to it, I'm sure it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. But right now i feel like you're building on a science guy just like.

And it's so funny because everyone i train i now have i can almost predict the conversations before they start like when we're setting up. There's a level of excitement when we're setting up the tent that it's a kid on christmas they're opening an Xbox. They're like, I can't wait. And then a week later, I see him and, and I almost expect it.

Hey, I went online and I saw this. I'm like, I'm like, okay right what what credentials what does this guy have is it a random instagram post is it what are we looking at here renting can be dangerous and it also can be helpful, is the post from 2008 right you know what i mean like there's so many factors i'm like hey we're you know we're a weekend i didn't tell you we were gonna have weed ready today let's let's take a deep breath slow down a little bit and trust the process

because the reality is there's a thousand ways to grow there's more difficult ways there's easier ways there's ways that when you're new don't know what affects you a month from now you know what i mean and that's one of the things not to toot my own horn but you know there's people that kogus and cloud culture i can almost guarantee have run into more issues and problems than i ever have because they've been grown almost twice as long as me you know and

that's that's not saying I'm good that's them saying experience matters you know what I mean because there's some things you are good no I. Think I'm decent but there's just one of those things that you know being two months into growing and reading all this stuff online and we want to try everything and get the biggest best plant because we have to and it's our first grow you know you don't know what you don't know and you know you don't know what's

going to come back to bite you or stall your growth or you don't know what's going to work great and you're just kind of you know bypassing it so let's talk about growth really quickly before we end where should we be looking to go with this like you said this is how many weeks three or four um three to four i'm not exactly so what's like what are the stages really quickly just gonna be a rundown so this stage is the vegetative stage right here where it's in the cup yes so well first

a clone right we would take a cutting from we took this plant right here a cutting is you cut about four or six inches of a plant okay off a stem right so you cut it right here and you'll notice we trim off this bottom stuff right so there's a branch missing there. And we leave some of the top two or three nodes. And with that, you can dip in a rooting gel, rooting powder, any type of rooting hormone. And essentially, you keep it humid for two weeks.

You want about 90% to 100% humidity for the first seven days, 80 to 90 for 7 to 10. And after day 10 you know 60 to 70 percent humidity after about 14 days it will start to root you'll see roots coming out of the the bottom of the plant okay. We then put it in this small cup. I put it in the smaller red cups because I can fit more of my store in a smaller space. Is that the root right there? No, it's just peeing the soil. Yeah.

So you'll actually see. Yeah, in this one, the other cool thing about this cup is you'll be able to see little white roots all along the sides too. You'll kind of see them pop out these holes at the bottom. Okay. But the first day or two you put it in soil, it's just going to kind of adjust, right? And then after that, you should start to see, I mean, with sunlight, you can see up to a half an inch to an inch of growth per day.

Okay. If you're using artificial light, the first couple of weeks, probably closer to about a half an inch. And what will happen is over a three-week period, right over the next 21 days, you'll have about 10 inches of growth. So it would be about right here. And you'll see it will start to form branches just like its own individual plant. And what's that stage called? This is just a veg or stage. I guess you could start to flower this. Okay.

But I like to simplify it. I mean, if you read the back of a bottle, there's 10 to 12 different stages of a plant cycle. But realistically, I mean, we're vegging and we have longer daylight or we're flowering and have less. So what's wrong with flowering it earlier? Like, is there a preferred time, and what does that exactly mean? So the longer you veg your plant, the more flour you can get at the end.

We could start to flour this, but what's going to happen is these two little branches will stretch to about here, and you'll get maybe a gram and a half to two grams. So it's about the yield. Correct. Now, if we grew this out to this size, right, and if we flowered this, all of these are going to stretch. And on this plant, we'd probably get closer to, if we started flowering it today, two to three ounces compared to two or three grams. And the difference is weighting.

Four weeks you know what i mean and that's one of the things i train that yes you can go online and you can find people that have a three-month grow right they take a clone they veg it for a month and then flower it you'll find people that do a four-month grow i tell every new grower your first one's going to be five months right there's nothing nothing more disappointing than growing especially your first grow and not getting enough to pay for your first grow I'm like, hey,

we're going to veg this first one a little longer. We're going to maximize your space. We're also going to phenol hunt because a lot of them start from the seed. So we don't know exactly what they're going to get. So it's, you know, what? So there's different levels to it, right? If you're in a smaller tent, if you start three seeds, you clone all three of them and then you flower them.

You take your best one and that's a phenol hunt right so you reproduce your best one and then start two more seeds and then take your next grow your best two reproduce those and start another new seeds you can get seeds from your plant yes or buying more seeds okay ideally you don't get seeds from your plant but that's a whole different conversation um the bigger phenol hunts like when i start one if i introduce a new strain or introduce a new corn i start with a minimum 100,

seeds or plants sometimes it goes up to 200 depending on how much space i have and and how much we you know like the strand are willing to grow but on a smaller scale it's starting a couple at a time and it's it's also kind of a baseline word for let's just find out what we have you You know what I mean? Let's grow it all out. Let's see what they taste like, what they smell like. Because you could have three seeds of the same exact strain, just like kids, right?

If you have three kids, they're gonna be similar, but they're also gonna be different. You know what I mean? So those three seeds, one might get you a little more high, one might taste a little better, one might smell better. And at that point, it's kind of just what you liked. Okay. We'll talk about that on another time.

All right. So, all right, before we end, what are your, like, top tips for taking care of a clone when you bring it home? Like, what are the first things that we should do? I know we already went over this a little bit, but let's just, like, summarize by what should people do other than call you? So aside from calling you and hiring you, he does offer virtual services. What should I have done?

Let's go in reverse. Really, kind of like what we talked about, the biggest issue people have is just not understanding the lighting. Okay. And then after that, it would be watering. So it's lighting first, then making sure we don't overwater, right? Like I said, if you water today, this is perfect. Okay. And if you can get those two things down, that's honestly most new growers struggle with that their whole first grow or at least the first couple months.

So the quicker you can get that stuff down, the easier your first grow is going to be and then you can get to that growing one or two. You know what I mean? Let's start worrying about the nutrients and stuff now. Hopefully in a couple of weeks we'll be in a better situation before we repot. Definitely will.

Like when should I give up though? like when should i be like oh this is this is donezo never never i like that so i mean luckily also with my store too if if i mean if you get a clone that just doesn't work out i'll replace it for free yeah oh good business practices you don't see those often anymore well you know i tell people all the time my store is for new growers and the goal is to help you grow you know i mean yeah, I need money to be able to run a business and keep the doors open.

But, you know, I want you to grow, right? Because when you have success, I don't need all your money, but hopefully you tell your friends and I'll take their money. So, you know, and that's what it's about. And being a part of the community and growing the community is always a big deal.

And once you go, like you said, once you go to one of these events, you're like wow this is so much different than than what i expected yeah it was truly, different experience i i much prefer those to a lot of the industry events that i've been to in the past that's for sure well and i don't want to say cult but it's completely two different worlds and it shouldn't be really but that's where we're at now where it's the community and and the industry yeah and and once you

get tied in and start meeting people and and just going to these local breeders and and you realize it's like man this is not a i'm not isolated in my basement growing a plant anymore this is really this is a big community and it was pretty surreal because we were by the train tracks that i used to go over quite often in high school to smoke in the car and i was thinking like to think that that would have been a reality back then.

It just wouldn't have even been a thought in my head you know what i mean we would have lost our damn minds if we drove past that yeah so it was pretty revolutionary just for that you know like it was you know it was pretty surreal and awesome so i'm very thankful that you did that so before we end let's talk about your next event yes always doing something so may 18th myself and three other award-winning growers started a group

called the organic home growers association we had our first event back in january i think we talked about that on one of your episodes our second event is may 18th at fingerboard farms it is a private event growers only event it's the The only one of its kind were the only people that put on these events. And if you had fun at the one in April, this one is going to rock your socks. There's going to be over 20 vendors, closer to 25. 20 or so have flower concentrates.

But the one rule we have for these events is because it's a grower's event. You got to bring something for the growers. So not only will they have their unique exotic flower, some of the most unique and best weed in Maryland or the DMV. But they'll also have clones of those cuttings, clones of their strains, so have seeds of their genetics and strains. As of now, I think we're going to have over 175 different strains as far as seeds at the event.

And we're likely to have, I think, over 35 different clones, possibly up above 50. You're not going to find this anywhere else in the country. So if you are a grower, tickets are only $10. There is a limited amount. There's going to be a DJ. There's going to be a food truck. There's going to be joint rolling contests, raffles, bonfire, infused grilled cheese, Italian ice, all kinds of awesome stuff. What? Definitely get your tickets as soon as you can. All right. Well,

I'm excited. I mean, I hope I'll be there. Well, thank you again for joining me today. And please come back anytime. Absolutely absolutely it's always fun and i appreciate you having me thank you. This podcast has been a product of your highness media each episode is written produced and edited by your highness media thank you for listening.