In this podcast, now in its fourth year, therapists Stella O'Malley and Sasha Ayad take a deep dive into the psychological and cultural forces impacting the social changes around "gender." Through interviews with researchers, doctors, therapists, parents, detransitioners, and others, Sasha and Stella's podcast is a "must listen" for anyone trying to navigate the current gender landscape. With their sharp analytical minds and deep compassionate hearts, Stella and Sasha have also become known throughout many parent networks as lighthouses in the midst of some very stormy seas. Previous guests include Helen Joyce, Jesse Singal, Leor Sapir, Kathleen Stock, Jamie Reed, Peter Boghossian and more.
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This conversation connects cognitive dissonance surrounding gender identity to cultural and institutional dynamics, including developments in gender medicine and resistance to emerging evidence that challenges prevailing medical practices — illustrating how deeply held beliefs become difficult to abandon even in the face of contradictory evidence. The core idea is that just because something cannot be proven false doesn’t mean we should accept it as true. Stella and Sasha imply that trying to "r...
Live from Lisbon, Billboard Chris discusses his evolution from an investment advisor to a prominent activist challenging gender ideology, fueled by concerns over puberty blockers and child abuse. He details his "sandwich board" protests, efforts to educate the public with facts, and strategies for calm, Socratic dialogue to foster critical thinking. Chris also shares experiences with school boards, physical attacks, and his ambitious future plans, including launching a nonprofit to fund ballot initiatives against extreme gender legislation and protect parental rights.
Vanessa Sivadge, a whistleblower from Texas Children's, discusses the intense political polarization around gender medicine in the US, highlighting how her Christian faith compelled her to speak out. She argues it's never loving to affirm a 'lie' through medical interventions like hormones, drawing parallels to treating anorexia. The episode emphasizes the critical need for more healthcare professionals to come forward as whistleblowers, despite facing job loss and repercussions, to expose harmful practices and uphold ethical standards in pediatric gender care.
In this episode, whistleblower Vanessa Sivadge, a former pediatric nurse at Texas Children's Hospital, shares her harrowing experience of exposing the illegal use of federally funded insurance for sex hormones and transgender treatments for minors. She recounts how she faced FBI intimidation after initially coming forward anonymously, and later her termination following public disclosure. Vanessa details the hospital's fraudulent documentation practices, including mislabeling biological sex and fabricating diagnoses, and discusses the prevailing "groupthink" culture in medical institutions that stifles dissent. Her story underscores the critical importance of courage and transparency in safeguarding patient welfare and medical ethics.
Sasha & Stella invite renowned feminist and author Julie Bindel to reflect on her decades-long advocacy for women and girls, in-particular her recent work investigating gender ideology. Julie shares her motivation behind her new podcast series, Julie in Genderland , which amplifies the voices of parents grappling with their children being caught in the gender identity craze. In this episode, Julie discusses her undercover work exposing gay conversion therapy, drawing parallels to what she ca...
The hosts and guest Maud Maron delve into the phenomenon of extreme polarization in modern discourse, where issues are treated as "life or death" rather than nuanced discussions. They explore how a lack of factual basis, coupled with groupthink and moral absolutism, contributes to intolerance for opposing views. The conversation also highlights how traditional and social media algorithms amplify these divisions, creating echo chambers and hindering constructive dialogue, making it difficult to find common ground.
Stella & Sasha welcome former public defender and education advocate, Maud Maron to the show for a fascinating conversation examining the intersection of education and politics. Maud reflects on the troubling shifts within schools, where merit and academic standards are being overshadowed by ideological pressures. In this episode, Maud discusses the evolving landscape of education, where traditional academic standards are increasingly being influenced or overshadowed by ideological pressures...
Exposing children to gender identity concepts at an early age can lead them to firmly latch onto these ideas, making it challenging to reconsider their beliefs, despite the broader context of the underlying causes of their distress. Gender identity often serves as a metaphor for broader developmental processes, such as individuation, which are typical in adolescence. However, the expansive and all-encompassing nature of gender identity frameworks can oversimplify and misrepresent a child's intri...
Another special mid-week episode release! Sasha will be back for our next episode, but don’t miss this deeply moving conversation between Stella and guest, Maia Poet, who shares her powerful story of self-discovery through the lenses of gender identity, conflict, and societal expectations. Maia recounts the emotional and psychological conflict she faced living as a trans man in a religious society, and how war—especially the harrowing events of October 7th—shifted her entire perspective on her b...
Masculinity and femininity are not purely socially constructed concepts but are grounded in evolutionary origins. Key distinctions between males and females from an evolutionary psychology perspective emphasize behavioral differences, including males' propensity for risk-taking, socio-sexuality, and aggression. These traits are deeply rooted in the evolutionary pressures faced by our ancestors. Second-wave feminism questioned traditional gender roles, yet debates persist about inherent biologica...
In this episode, Sasha and Stella welcome Alex Byrne, philosopher and author of Trouble with Gender , to explore the evolving concept of gender, its historical roots, and the myths that shape modern discourse. Byrne offers an erudite yet accessible analysis of the term "gender," reflections about how much the term has changed and the far-reaching implications of those changes, and insights on influential figures like Jack Turbin and John Money. Expect a thought-provoking conversation exploring; ...
Some individuals experience gender dysphoria as a deep-seated issue that predates any ideological framework, profoundly affecting their self-perception, sexuality, and overall satisfaction in life. Contrary to the more superficial aspects of the popular gender-affirming model of care, it is crucial to reconcile the persistent and often distressing nature of gender dysphoria with a more holistic, self-accepting approach—one that avoids the trap of over-identifying with the problem. Healing should...
Tali shares her journey from an ardent activist deeply immersed in gender and identity politics to someone questioning and ultimately walking away from the dogmatic beliefs she once held. Her story is a roller coaster of conviction, self-discovery, and transformation, particularly as she navigates the complexities of having encouraged her wife towards a trans identity of her own. Listeners will gain insight into the mindset of passionate activists, the impact of societal pressures on personal id...
There remains a lingering stigma surrounding AGP specifically, but there’s a complexity to the breadth of proclivities, fixations and traits compelling certain behaviors and beliefs around sexuality and gender identity. And like discussed in The Many Roots and Presentations of Gender Dysphoria in Males , what might have otherwise remained latent in some males, has perhaps only been amplified by today’s internet-driven world. This is a special free release of one of our bonus episodes for premium...
Hosts Sasha and Stella delve into the multifaceted roots and presentations of gender dysphoria in males, examining frameworks like autogynephilia (AGP), homosexual transsexuals (HSTS), and rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD). They discuss the psychological, developmental, and sexual dynamics at play, the impact of testosterone, and societal perceptions of gender roles. The conversation highlights the challenge of defining and discussing these complex, often overlapping experiences, emphasizing the need for humility and compassion in a highly polarized discourse.
In the wake of the feminist movement's significant progress, perceptions of masculinity have evolved profoundly. This shift brings to light crucial issues related to the natural growth and developmental experiences of young men and boys coming of age in contemporary culture. The impact of perceptions and expectations surrounding modern masculinity is intricately linked to mental health and personal wellness, presenting both significant challenges and opportunities for young men and boys as they ...
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM OUR SPONSOR: Therapy First is hosting a live webinar August 29th at 7pm EDT. “Moral Injury and the Call to Recovery” with therapist, author and social scientist, Amber Ault, PhD. CLICK HERE TO REGISTER (or visit therapyfirst.org/webinars for more information). *Therapy First has been approved by NBCC as an Approved Continuing Education Provider,ACEP No. 7505. This webinar provides 1.5 hours of CE credits. --- Sasha and Stella welcome Shane Cole to the show for a rivetin...
Explore themes of power dynamics in sports, the psychological toll of abusive coaching, and the cultural shift in how these issues are addressed today. In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Jennifer Sey shares about her experience as a gymnast and the broader culture of abuse and silence within the sport. Her journey from athlete to whistleblower, to author, and filmmaker is compelling and highlights the complexities of elite sports. She stands up and stands tall, carrying messages of r...
Former big brand marketing powerhouse and national gymnastics champion, Jennifer Sey, joins Sasha and Stella to dissect trans-themed ads, corporate HR's influence, and the impacts of the adjustments to Title IX. This is a bold conversation about the evolution of corporate messaging, the rise of woke capitalism, and the growing influence of HR and DEI initiatives in shaping corporate culture. Whether you’re in marketing, leadership, athletics or simply interested in the intersection of business a...
In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Jesper Rasmussen emphasizes a strategic approach to effecting change in public policy and societal perceptions. His comprehensive strategy balances direct political action with broader efforts to sway public opinion and leverage media influence. His efforts in Denmark involved relentless conversations about the hidden truths behind gender affirming care for minors, much like the iatrogenic effects. His persistence in securing meetings and fostering ...
Sasha and Stella welcome Jesper Rasmussen, a Danish filmmaker, teacher, and head of the Rainbow Council, to the show, offering a critical look at pediatric gender medicine and the broader impact of gender ideology in Denmark. A key moment emerges when Jesper introduces three essential “yes/no” questions that that anyone can use to critically evaluate the issue and guide the debates around gender affirming medical interventions for minors. This episode vital for those attempting conversations abo...
Individuals experiencing estrangement from loved ones face profound challenges and a complex process of rebuilding their lives. The emotional and psychological toll of estrangement is intense, making it vital to move past feelings of unfairness and focus on present management for healing and progress. Despite the isolating nature of coping with estrangement, community support among those facing similar issues is crucial. It provides a unique space of understanding and solidarity, showcasing the ...
As the mother of two trans-identified children, Lynn Chadwick has navigated the pain of estrangement and now channels her experiences into her work with Themis Resource Fund, an independent, nonprofit, and nonpartisan organization providing financial resource aimed at connecting detransitioned plaintiffs in the United States with attorneys interested in representing their cases. Lynn expresses her deep concern about the potential for re-traumatization among detransitioned individuals who engage ...
In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Elaine Miller considers the complex and nuanced implications of exogenous testosterone use in females, particularly focusing on those who become pregnant while on the hormone. She also underscores the importance of mother-infant bonding and the potential impacts of cross-sex hormones on that critical relationship, alongside the societal implications of surrogacy and the unique needs of those families. Watch our full length episode with Elaine Miller...
Looking for support as a parent of a gender-questioning youth or young adult? Attend a Wider Lens Parent Retreat in 2025! Registration is now open. Visit https://widerlens.events/parent-retreat-2025 to learn more and secure your spot. In this episode, Sasha & Stella welcome Elaine Miller, a physiotherapist specializing in pelvic health and award-winning comedian to join them for a riveting conversation unpacking the cascading effects of testosterone on the female body, with particular attent...
Looking for support as a parent of a gender-questioning youth or young adult? Attend a Wider Lens Parent Retreat in 2025! Registration is now open. Visit https://widerlens.events/parent-retreat-2025 to learn more and secure your spot. Sasha and Stella sit down with Forrest, a young man whose journey through gender identity, pornography, and societal expectations lends a profound and complex quest for self-acceptance. A compelling conversation about Forrest's journey through transition and detran...
The promotion of practices like breast binding as empowering or liberating is problematic, as it glosses over the underlying issues of body image and the societal pressure that drive individuals to modify their bodies. These practices, intended to manipulate the physical form to achieve a desired aesthetic (or an “authentic-self”), often lead to both physical and psychological harm. Although marketed as self-love and self-care within queer circles, the desire for body modification frequently ref...
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM OUR SPONSOR: Therapy First is hosting a webinar July 29th at 12pm EDT. “The Comprehensive Psychiatric Evaluation of Minors with Gender Dysphoria: Key Concepts” with Dr. Stephen B. Levine. CLICK HERE TO REGISTER. *Therapy First has been approved by NBCC as an Approved Continuing Education Provider,ACEP No. 7505. This webinar provides 1.5 hours of CE credits. ------ Sasha & Stella sit down with the creatively multifaceted and dynamically articulate artist N3VLYNNN , e...
The trend of transitioning among gender-nonconforming individuals, particularly those who may have previously identified as lesbians, has been detrimental to the cohesion and stability of the lesbian community. Lesbians are faced with pressure to conform to certain expectations and navigate the complexities of identity politics within the LGBTQ+ community. This challenging position requires balancing their own identity, preferences, and sense of camaraderie with the broader push for inclusivity ...
Sasha and Stella welcome comedian Arielle Isaac Norman to the show for a refreshing critique of identity, comedy, and societal norms. They talk pronouns, reality, the impact of Trump's win in 2016, and what it means to be politically non-binary. The discussion emphasizes Arielle's skill in using humor to address evolving dynamics within the queer community, particularly in response to today's political landscape, delivering profound insights with a comedic twist. Arielle brings an informed criti...
