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Episode 170 - Ainsley Costello!

Jan 05, 202454 minEp. 170
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David

Hello, hello, welcome.

Leila

Welcome to Fun Fact Friday we are back sometimes.

David

Sometimes we have facts sometimes it's on Friday. Sometimes they're not today. Almost always fun though. There have been episodes with no facts, but lots of fun. There's been episodes that came out on Sunday. But one thing in fact, one thing's for sure. It's always with Leila and David. Yep.

Leila

Sometimes, but we have someone else. We have somebody

David

else this time. All right,

Leila

who are you know?

David

We are joined by the one and only Ainsley Costello.

Ainsley Costello

It's so funny. So I feel like I'm already getting off topic. Do you? Show me the conch? Philomena

David

conch? Yes, no, that's an awesome name, though.

Ainsley Costello

Well, she's so incredible. And when you were just like, Hey, who are you? So she, okay, let me just like explain the essence of Filipina conch real quick and I like have forced my parents to watch many hours of Philomena with me. And I will just like I will, I will preach her gospel anywhere I go. So she's like a bit actress. But the character that she plays is like she's really stupid, but she is out to create the best

documentary about anything. And so then, like she'll sit down with all of these experts in their respective fields, and she will be like, no science men it will you.

David

Who are you and what do you do? Wait, she's

Leila

the one that's like, um, it's hard to believe. I'm walking in the first ever city. That was that was that girl. Okay.

David

Did your best friends? Yep. culturally

Ainsley Costello

significant, the Renaissance or Single Ladies by fiance and I love it. Oh my gosh, I could keep going.

David

We're definitely an off topic show. So don't feel bad about that. Ainsley did an amazing live concert value for value recently. You may have heard of her. And we we enjoyed the show. And we reached out and and she came on, and we're going to talk about music and this and that's another thing and Leila Leila has got some interview questions that are probably going to be extremely offensive. No. We'll bleep out any there's only like a four minute bleep in the middle of the episode. Only

Ainsley Costello

some of them are wildly intrusive, it's fine.

David

So Ainsley, typically how we do this is we're gonna we didn't nothing happen this week with us. Normally we do a catch up with Leland, David, where we get what are we up to nothing. We stayed up rang in the new year. I think we fired off some bottle rockets. No. Three. That's not like we used some legal in North Carolina fireworks. Yep. That's what we did. And stayed up till about 3am. And that's literally all we've done this week. Leila made some brownies. So other than

that, nothing big going on. Um, did you have a news story? Leila?

Leila

I do. Do you?

David

I do. It's very short. But it's fun. So. And now, Fun Fact, Friday news. What's your lead anchor? Leila? Oh, no. You don't have your story pulled up. Do you know,

Leila

I was dancer. Alright. A Maryland woman.

David

That's it. That's it. Just a Maryland woman. So

Leila

for Christmas, she got a lottery ticket and her stocking. And she She scratched it off and everything. Okay. And she won $100,000.

David

So, the person who gave it to her, like, what was the person who gave her the thing like mad? It No, no. So that's the whole story is she just got a winning lottery ticket and restocking. She said she'll put it into savings accounts for her children. Oh, that's nice. Until she wants something nice. Yeah. And then she'll go by Well,

Leila

that's what she thought was fake. Because her family jokes all the time. Oh,

David

I've seen those. I saw those one time you could buy a scratch off those supposedly like the jackpot. And then like You're like pranked.

Leila

I thought that was cool. It was just a short little story. So

David

mine is similar.

Leila

We have a new good news site, by the way.

David

Oh yeah, we found a new a new opponent. We usually just use like the Good News Network. I pushed the theme song down or the background music to calm down. Alright, so Jessica Vincent, what was in a thrift store in Virginia. And like I said, this is very similar. She bought a vase, this ugly, ugly vase. And this is from the AP news.com link that will be in the show notes. So you can see the base for forward dollars, it was worth $107,000. That's how

Leila

it beats sometimes.

David

That is, don't be sometimes. Now I will say here's a pro tip if you ever visit a larger city, if you find where the rich area is, you can go on Zillow and look for like most expensive houses, go to thrift shops and goodwill type stores. Goodwill. In particular, I don't like Goodwill, but I'm that type of thrift store. And they're going to have the best stuff because you think about the people that live around there that go donate stuff they're donating like name brand stuff.

Ainsley Costello

Exactly one time my I had a friend who did that she went to one of like the nicer Goodwill's, and one of the like bougie areas in Nashville, and she got like a $50,000 like Prada bag or something. And I was like, that's what Girlboss thing is like, we're gonna sell that off and then pay for the album.

David

There you go. Like,

Leila

I always get super nice shirts at thrift shops. But I always look them up afterwards to make sure they're not like $1,000 before. Oh, dang it.

David

You never you never know what you're gonna get a thrift store. Yeah. We were in a nice area in the Charlotte, North Carolina metropole metropolitan area. And we're one of the nicer neighborhoods in the area. And this concludes Fun Fact. Friday news. Okay, there we go. We always do that we end up with the music play into half the show because we go off on a tangent. We're professional podcasters so yeah. Oh, and don't let us forget we're gonna send you some stickers and stuff

since she's right now. Yeah, she's more responsible than I am with notes. In the Charlotte area, I went in there and it was all name brand stuff on the on the clothing shelves. And then I got a set of like, ridiculously priced golf clubs. Just a full set. I guess somebody had upgraded and I got it for like,

you know, $12 or something like that something ridiculous. So I came back to town sold those golf clubs bought a super cheap set from our goodwill or no Salvation Army bought a super cheap set from there because I was playing golf in high school. And then took that extra money and bought video games flip the good golf clubs for some cheap ones and video games. That was the the fast move that right? Like

Ainsley Costello

Absolutely, it's it's so easy to see why that that's something that people start doing. Like they get lucky once and like, I can flip clothes, I can flip houses, I can flip things I find at the thrift shop. And then it's like, four years before you ever find something of value like that,

David

right? It's a if you're wanting to do that, like flip thrift shop stuff or get go to the storage auctions. Did that a little bit. Not worth it. But there was a tree, there was a tree, a tree, somebody had a tree, a tree and I didn't buy it. It's like they opened the storage unit and there was just a tree in it. Like a like a cut up tree.

Leila

Like somebody was like probably like a yard around.

David

Somebody was paying money to store a tree in diameter cut up just a bunch of cut up wood. Yeah.

Ainsley Costello

In what worldly? They think that would be like lucrative? Well, if they're just storing it

David

expert woodworker, maybe, and they were waiting for it to dry. And they just they had to move and then just stop paying. I don't know, but nobody bought that storage unit because you're literally just paying money to have to get rid of this chore. Yeah. But I bought a few and you end up digging through somebody's old junk, and maybe find one or two things. I found a like a Gameboy Color. And one of the ones I bought. I found some art that was worth some money. I haven't I haven't sold

it yet. We went to

Leila

that auction. And I had $10. And they were like, if you can start off the the bid for $10. Good for you. And I did not talk that whole time. She didn't care the

Ainsley Costello

last time. Absolutely not. Right. But

David

if if you're going to be flipping stuff, it becomes a full time job just like anything else. It's not like a get rich quick scheme. No, at all at all, because it's actually more work than just working. And there's no guarantee you're gonna find anything.

Leila

Hard. I mean, I go to thrift shops and like liquidators a lot to try and find fabric. Oh,

David

yeah. Yeah. That's those whenever funny thing, good palette stores. There's a place here that buys returns from other stores. And they literally just throw everything into these bins. And they're like, everything in the bin is $8 Anything that you can find in this bin is $8 What's

Ainsley Costello

that place called? Treasure Hunt. Treasure Hunt.

David

Okay, cuz there's similar places all over with different names.

Ainsley Costello

Yeah, we've got one similar here called Ali's, I think yes. It was so weird. I went into it with my mom one time and I was just like, I feel like we have one of those. Yeah. It's wild. The vibes are weird.

David

Yeah, that Holly are always for the longest time before before COVID They had a coffee station in the back and they served really good coffee there and it's free. Like you just go back and make yourself a coffee while you're walking around all he's looking at all their good stuff. Cheap, I believe is what they call it. Not a sponsor. But they Yeah, we don't do ads, no sponsors. But we we will get a few things from there. They have the brownie brittle. Okay, have you ever

had? Oh, yeah, they saw a lot

Ainsley Costello

of big bad rap for Christmas this year. Absolutely.

David

Yeah, they sell the big bag there for real cheap. And we'll go there for stuff like pillows because they have namebrand pillows and stuff. And they are much cheaper. But it's not a regular stop for us was like, Hey, let's go see what junk they have in there. Yeah, totally. But the treasure hunt place is more of its returns. So it's like half the stuff you get in there is broken. But you'll find stuff like the sound panels on the walls was back there. Yeah, I got a pack of 30 of

those for $4. And you know, that's extremely cheap for some really

Ainsley Costello

good sound paneling that's can get expensive really quickly. And

David

I've got Microsoft microphone, boom, arms for for $5. Cheers. Yes, you got a $40 shears, good. Cheers. You can find good stuff. But like it is a treasure hunt. You'll go in there and most of the time is junk. But yeah. But we're not here to talk about junk. We're here to talk about music. Music. So, okay, so I I am not musically inclined. I am. But I know how to look things up on the internet. So yeah, I did some research and tell me whether this is true or not

since you're a professional musician. Okay. I'll do my best music is just sound waves.

Ainsley Costello

Yeah, just that just about sums it up.

David

Like it's all complicated. It's just sound. It goes to the like, whoo. Yeah, that's all it is. So I think Leila had some questions she wanted to ask you. Do you have a couple of minutes, I'm gonna meet myself and have a drink and y'all can just have a conversation. So how did you get into music?

Ainsley Costello

Oh, kind of just by coming into the world, honestly, like April 7. I'm like, I'm in the music industry. My dad, he's a lifelong musician. My dad went to LA in the 90s. To do basically the same thing that I'm doing here in Nashville. And so I grew up watching him play music. And so even when I was born, and he got a day job, he always kept like, playing in cover bands on the side. And I just have a lot of childhood memories of like, going to see him and his buddies

play it Farlows in Sarasota, or this place or that place. And so I was always just kind of enamored with that. And I have a lot of memories of my dad like playing the Charlie Brown theme song, like in the house when I was growing up. And then like, you know, you start to get older, you start to wake up a little bit and you see people in the world doing music, you see people like performing on stages, performing at award shows doing this doing that, and you're like, oh, oh, that's Oh,

so you can do that. Okay. And so the fact that my dad had already kind of set that precedent of Oh, music is just kind of always here. Yeah, always has been here. So I was like, Yeah, you know, I want to do this. And so from a very young age, I was like, Yep, I'm just musics. What I'm gonna do, for sure.

Leila

Thanks. So who are you? Sorry, some of you? Oh, who are some of your musical influences? Oh, my gosh, I have a lot instruments. And I was gonna be like, that's not right. Well,

Ainsley Costello

I mean, what we the people in my family do name my guitar. So you could ask me who are some of the musical instruments? This is Tina. We my dad named this guitar Tina. There's a bunch downstairs. My first big girl guitar. His name is dusty. Let me think my, my 12 string is called 12 South because that's a neighborhood in Nashville. And then I have an all white guitar and we named her pearl. So but musical

inspirations. I'm really inspired by a lot of the rock bands that came out of Nashville, who you kind of wouldn't expect came out of Nashville, like, I love

Paramore. I love the band Camino and Kings of Leon. But I'm also really inspired by a lot of that like early 2000 10s Like really sparkly, almost like recession pop. Like I love Carly Rae Jepsen, and I've also been in a really big George Michael phase recently, and then I also kind of am inspired by people that I don't really think you expect me to be inspired by like I grew up on a lot of cerebral Ellis and Norah Jones and Jeff Buckley and

kind of like because I grew up with a purist musician, Father, my tastes are kind of just all over the map for sure.

David

That's her. Yeah. Okay, sir.

Leila

She's like, you wouldn't expect me to like some artists and then I like love them.

David

So like, she likes Wilwood in the tapeworms is one of your favorites. Well,

Ainsley Costello

then in the end? Yeah. Very. It's a very indie sounding name, right. I was like, I feel like I know, like, what they sound like, just based off of that name. Yeah,

David

but you don't, I think because he is all over the place. Or the post, the post show we'll play a little clip of her favorites will

Leila

would like I think, a million monthly listeners on Spotify. And then well, one of the tapeworms only has like 500,000. So like that. Yeah. Last time I checked.

David

Leland, can you move your mic down and towards you a little bit? Yes. Getting a lot of that static.

Leila

Okay, there you go. My computer makes a lot of static this weird. Yeah,

David

we've the mics we use are very sensitive to EMF. So

Ainsley Costello

yeah. Or sorry, any ghosties you'll pick them up whenever I'm in the studio and like I'm up on a mic the way that you guys are right now and I'll have my phone with me looking at lyrics. Like the producer. Whoever I'm working with will be like Ainsley put your phone on airplane mode because like it picks up

David

some mics or like these, these are real bad about it. Because of the anyway, not going to go into mic stuff. We could probably talk about audio gear for a while. Okay, Leila, did you want to continue with your your list of questions?

Leila

So here's one the mom or the dad had not mom. Why are you so sure? Yeah. Yeah.

Ainsley Costello

I asked myself this question every day. I truly do. I think some cosmic joke. Gods mad at a past life and they're just getting it taking it out on me now. But I Yes, I am five two, and I wrote a song about it. And it's I just tried to make light of a internalized Middle School insecurity. I love it.

David

Have you tried getting taller? Very much.

Ainsley Costello

I've tried everything. I've tried the vegetables. I've tried to milk I've tried the seven inch heels. Oh my God feels work for like two hours

David

while you're wearing and then your ankles hurt and you know your

Ainsley Costello

your feet hurt and then it's just all downhill. Yeah,

Leila

I'm five one and I wear I only I only own platforms. Yeah, like even my Converse have like a little bit of a platform on him

David

stomping around in her big old boots.

Leila

Come home from school and take my shoes off and be like, oh

Ainsley Costello

it's so funny. I have these. Oh, my I well, I have a couple of crazy pairs of platform heels because a just stilettos are terrifying, like medieval torture devices, but be trying to perform in any sort of stiletto like,

David

imagine. Yeah, well, I don't imagine I've worn them. Oh, I love that last a bit in high school. I had

Ainsley Costello

done a similar thing for my dad actually played a gig in a dress once. Oh my gosh. I love that when you raise it for Jim. Yeah, um, but I have a couple of pairs of really high platform heels that I love. Like they're so like fun and spunky. But so I have this for anyone who may or may or may not have watched the live shows that happened a couple of weeks in Minneapolis a couple weeks ago in Minneapolis. Links, show

notes. Oh, sick. So on the second night, when we played first avenue, I wore my pride and joy Steve Madden pink pumps that like I'm five, two, and I'm probably five, seven or five, eight and those. But I in there's so much fun. They're actually really easy to move around in. But I played a show in upstate New York in July. And oh my gosh, well, many things happened at the show. Honestly, that show it was honestly so much fun. And one of my favorite shows that I've performed, like

ever. But it was the it was the very last song it was we were playing my song cherry on top. And it was cool for a bunch of reasons because the kids at that camp, they'd been playing my music in the weeks leading up to my performance. So like the kids knew my songs. And the whole time we were doing a set like that they were singing, or they were chanting chariot. I love the enthusiasm, but you guys are getting ahead of me. So we finally make it to the last song. And they know the song so

well that they're singing the words back to me. So it's the end of it really was the coolest thing. Like I get goosebumps thinking about it. But so it was I saw that like they all knew the words to this song. So I was like, Okay, we're gonna have a moment. We're gonna have one of those organic moments where I'm going to walk out from behind Mike, I'm going to take my ear out. And I'm just going to sing to them organically so they can

hear me off the mic, I can hear them. And the other thing, important thing to know is that for anyone who is not a musician there, unless you're at like a stadium like gear level, chances are you're going to be tethered to three or four different cables at once like your ears, your in your monitors are going to be a cable, your mic is going to be a cable, then like you're going to have one for your guitar, too. And so I was

wearing these big platform heels. And so then I like I start to walk back to the microphone after we, I like organically sing the bridge to them. My guitar knocks by Mike stand over I tried to go to and then my shoes get caught up in those three or four wires that are tethered. And so then I have to make a split decision. I'm like, You know what, I could recover this, but it's gonna look even worse. So we had a good run sugar, we're going down. Yeah. platforms, and it

goes glorious. It was such a fun moment.

David

That's fun.

Ainsley Costello

That's my long story about shoes.

David

All right, next question on the list where we go to see.

Leila

Are you sure? How did you decide? How did you decide to use Bitcoin for your music?

Ainsley Costello

Oh, my gosh, the story is so weird, in crazy. So my parents for the last couple of years, they've kind of been like Bitcoin crypto enthusiasts, and we're always really interested in it. But when they when they will try to tell me their findings. I'd be like, Yeah, okay, guys, whatever. Thank you.

Leila

Move on.

Ainsley Costello

But so then it's funny. So who would have thunk there's this place in Nashville called Bitcoin Park. And it's actually kind of cool. It's, it's two houses, near Belmont, which is one of our big universities. And they were actually the old Florida, Georgia Line houses were in Florida, Georgia Line, like recorded a couple of their early records, which is cool. And so they're just renovated now. And it's just a place for Bitcoiners and crypto people to kind of go

and talk and do their thing. And so in July or so, there was a lightning summit happening. And my dad, it's funny, the punch line is that my dad went to went to Bitcoin Park, because his his day job is he's a mortgage guy, he sells mortgages. So he went to sell a mortgage to some young rich kid with money to blow and he got sold on Bitcoin, right? So that's where he met Sam means who was one of the main guys over at wave Lake, which is the big kind of new streaming service that operates in this

web three world. And he told Sam, my story, and Sam was like, well just bring her over leg, see if it's something that she'd be interested in and just have her come to the demo because they were having a demo the next morning. And I was like, Sure, I'll go, I've got nothing else to do other than go to therapy at 12. So I can go and do this first. And it's funny because I went to the demo. And I actually had to dip early because I actually did have to go to therapy. I was like, Sorry,

guys. Great work. Later, gotta go talk about my feelings. But yeah, so then the next day, my mom and dad and I, we all went down to the wavelength demo. And we were just like, You know what? Why not? Let's put my music up there. Let's see what happens. And then it was honestly wave like, is kind of the thing that sold me on this, like, oh, this could be a sustainable ecosystem for music and musicians and songwriters.

And very long story short, I put up my song cherry on top a couple of weeks later, it becomes the first song on the platform to hit a million SATs. And then Adam curry picked it up on his podcast, and then a bunch of other podcasters picked it up and then flash forward. A few months later, we do the very first live lightning enabled value for value music shows in Minneapolis. So it's been a wild couple of months. Yeah,

David

that sounds that we've we've had a much slower adoption. I listened to Adam curry show. Well, she's listened to pretty much her whole life. No agenda. And then when he started talking about podcasting, 2.0 I was like, Hey, I've got podcasts, let's you know, let me add these tags to my shows. And then once you excuse me, we started Fun Fact Friday, right around the same time as podcasting. 2.0 was picking up and I was like, You know what, I'm gonna like keep

up with podcasting. 2.0 in the rssb, we're gonna we're gonna do all this stuff, right? And then I was like, Oh, this value for value things neat. And we were wanting we I think we were the 14th podcast to get value for value.

Unknown

Wow, cool. So

Ainsley Costello

you're really early in the game? Yeah,

David

we got a real early I have to cough. Oh,

Leila

oh, all right.

David

All right. So so then we got a donation. From Dred Scott to get a node. So we've got our own Node running up and running, because I was paying, I was paying somebody else to have it because you know, as I was, who was voltage, we're gonna do voltage at a whole node do that. All these other options weren't around at the time. It was either you ran your own or you went through like voltage or I think Sphinx, I think maybe, anyway, irrelevant. And then we just kind of slowly over the

course of the everything. Oh, Microsoft Teams has an update. That's what I was. Sorry. Yeah, not getting hacked. So yeah, and we've been, you know, just getting, getting our little boosts and stuff like that. We've had a good time with it. I love it. When when folks even if it's just like 50 sites, when they take the time to send a note to us through a way where we're getting money, you're paying us to send us a note. And that's awesome. Because it just shows our show gives them value.

So yes, they are show gives them value. That's why we do it as soon as we stop. If we go a couple of weeks with no kind of value whatsoever. We're gonna be like, Oh, okay, well, I guess we've run our course we're done, because nobody finds value in it anymore. We'll probably still go for a little while because we have fun doing it. Yeah. And like I said, it's the only time me and Leila talk is on this episode of these episodes. We never

Ainsley Costello

talked to each other. Why would you talk to each other anyways, ya know, right.

David

Now we are not before the scheme's we're not going to hold you up for two and a half hours. I listened to that. Now, blueberry knows a level. I was I was behind the scheme's very first in studio guest. Oh, that's yeah, i He was Blueberry. Blueberry was close enough to drive to and he had his mobile rig with him everywhere. And I was like, no, no, this was before that. Oh, really? Yeah. This is where you were at you were at your Nana's house. I believe that weekend. Anyway, I

met him it was a little bit of a drive. But I was in studio guests. We had a good time. But I am going to read the boosts that we get. We only got one boost this week. Well let me Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what, we'll get back to value for value. Continue. Okay. I thought you were done. No,

Ainsley Costello

I love this. You guys remind me so much of me and my dad.

Leila

So what's your What did you consider your genre of music.

Ainsley Costello

I consider my genre like it's it's very broad, but pop rock, I kind of look at my music as if pop Paramore in the band Camino how to baby and then that baby just like writing songs about girl power and telling the next generation of young girls that you don't need to be in a relationship to be a whole and happy and fulfilled human being. So yeah, that's my genre. So lyrically, and musically,

Leila

yeah. What's your advice for someone who wants to pursue music for a career? Ah.

Ainsley Costello

I'm like trying to think about all the pieces of advice that I've gotten back over the years, I think. Learn how to write with other people just as well as you write with yourself. Because it's, you know, like, I think almost everybody starts out writing songs by themselves in their bedroom. And that's great. That's a skill that's going to

carry with you for the rest of your career. But if you want to expand if you want to grow as a creative, you have to work with other people and bring other people into your process, bring yourself to their process, and not feeling the hard part for me. Finding out I really, yeah, yeah. I struggled with it too, a lot at the beginning when I first moved to Nashville, and I was starting to write songs with a lot of people. Actually, I'll tell you this exclusive I don't think I've ever really talks

about. So my very first co write that I had in Nashville, it was I was, I still feel bad about it. But my first card that I ever had scheduled was with this really nice guy who I'd met. I think I met him at the bluebird cafe. Actually, his name was Ashton. And he was like, hey, like, let's write a song together. And so I was like, Absolutely, let's do it. But I'd never written a song with anyone before. Like, I'd only just written songs by myself in my bedroom. And so the day comes, I

have a nervous breakdown. I have a panic attack, and I'm like, I have to cancel. I know. And I'm so awful. And so I feel bad because ash and I've actually never written together. But now I've written like a million songs with a million different people. So sorry, Ashton. had to get over that. Right with all these other people. I'll

David

make sure Ashton hears this episode, I'll personally find them and

Leila

we'll find every action and we'll send it to them a million times. Yeah, I

David

do have some friends on the Nashville music scene so so if I think like two more, okay, I was gonna just comment on the working with other people. Yeah, it's, it is a huge like, because my other show me this pod. I was just gonna narrate everything myself, right? It's, you know, short stories and stuff. And then I was like, now let me get some other voice actors in here.

And then I started working with people with music for like score, and I started working people sound fit and like, and now I'm building a whole cast, like we met these people that are interested in working on the show with me locally. And I think that's awesome. Because now we can go do live shows at local pubs and things like that. And I think working with other people that are enthusiastic about being creative, in whatever field, you're being creative in, I think is really

awesome. Like, the sound guy at the theater that we performed a Christmas carol that turns out, he's he works in radio in like a neighboring town. And he's trying to get into podcasting with his radio show. So I'm gonna go work with him. And I've always found that, and when I've collaborated with other podcasters, like blueberry, and I've been on Spencer, show and DeLorean. And it's great working with other people that are in

your field. versus going it alone. That's I've I guess normally mentally I'm kind of the every man's an island sort of person. But then I'm finding more and more the whole no man is an island is more apt in the creative world. Yeah, absolutely.

Ainsley Costello

I mean, how are you going to expand your way I just had, what was the word I was going to use? How are you going to expand your skill set if you don't expand your circle? And I think that just kind of applies to everything, no matter what line of work you're in,

David

right? You can't you can't look at everything from all angles by yourself. Like, yeah,

Ainsley Costello

lots and then I find that like, when you do collaborate with other people a lot, and then you do come back and you just write a song by yourself, you do a show by yourself, you're like, Oh, well, this, this person did this. And so maybe I can look at it through this lens. Now what like, you get stronger as a solo writer, if you write with other people, you know?

Leila

So what was the hardest part of being a musician?

Ainsley Costello

Oh, I would say social media and the comparison that it brings. I don't like social media like and I, I've struggled with, like kind of publicly talking about that because like, we live in a day and age now where you can't make it it with unless you don't have a social media following or a presence of any kind. And it's really hard because, you know,

you can do everything. You know, like kind of like a technically perfect way and but you might not be posting on Tik Tok three times a day or you see, I don't know like I could this is a thing that I could talk about for three and a half hours on. But you know, like, if you do everything technically perfectly like you use all the right hashtags. You post three times a

day on Tik Tok, and nothing is still working. And then you see someone with a bad attitude who you came across once who just post one time on Tik Tok, they go viral they they get and you're like, what?

David

Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel that with with me this pod not to not to toot my own horn. But I take a lot of pride and what I do on that show, I like the audio editing the casting the and I put out a good show. Right. Most people that have I've talked to you about actually everybody that I've talked to about says it's top notch stuff. But there are audio fiction podcasts out there that have nowhere near the production

value. And you can tell that they're not. They're not putting everything into it that they could write that it's almost you can tell that they don't care about it. You know, I mean, they're just putting it out there. But their social media game is on point. Yeah. So

Ainsley Costello

that's hard, because like none of us have every skill set. Like odds are if you're a creative, you're going to be better at writing a song rather than writing an Instagram caption. You know,

David

I'm just I'm not a marketing guy.

Ainsley Costello

I'm not either, and like, there's nothing wrong with that at all. Like, that's why you have to have a team like nobody can do anything alone. Like, I am the first person to admit that I have a really great team behind me who helped me put those two Minneapolis shows together. But absolutely, I think social media and the comparison that it brings besides that first exam Pull that I just said a minute ago like, you get on and you again, I could talk about it. Yeah. Put

David

a pin in that we'll talk in the after show. I'm working on something else. Oh, one more question. One more question from Leila,

Leila

how did you graduate high school at 16?

Ainsley Costello

Oh, man that I very long story short, I was so done. I was so fed up with it. And so I, the condensed version of the story is, so my first year of high school, I only went to, like in person High School, traditional high school for one year. But the high school that I went to, was very non

traditional. It was kind of an art school. And so the four year model of that school was you get all of the credits that you would normally get out of the way in all four years of high school in two years at that high school so that in the last junior and senior years, you could focus on being in the musicals or like going and doing this recording artists thing. That school didn't work for me for a handful of other reasons. But it did allow me to get half of my high school credits done

in that one year. And so I was already missing a lot of school. Because in my, in my freshman year of high school because I was traveling for gigs, I was traveling for auditions. And I actually got sent a truancy letter wrongfully, which is a whole other story. But so after that first year, I was like, You know what, I am already missing enough school as it is. Let me just go online. And then that year was COVID. And then I was like, you know, I've got literally nothing else to do.

Let me just finish high school, right. So I just, I sat in that very bed, and I did just like, seriously, I'm like, get it done. Get it done. Get it done. Get me out of here. Because I was able to graduate so early from high school. It allowed me to graduate from Berkeley this year to just for

David

our audio listeners, which were only an audio show. Ainsley turned her camera because we're on a video chat right now and she has a extremely Luxe and luxurious bed. Because yeah, it has like Thank you. There's a there's guys with the palm leafs that fan her and give her the grapes standing by Yeah,

Ainsley Costello

they all look like Yes.

David

It does have a little fairy lights over it. That's pretty.

Ainsley Costello

It's it's a winter wonderland in here for seven.

Leila

So hold on. We got our winter wonderland. All put away today. Okay, our Christmas, Christmas decorations. And we said we were surprised mom was it because we were gonna do it this weekend. Yeah. She walks in and she's like, Oh my gosh, it's so clean in here. And we start eating dinner. She would say something about the Christmas Eve being gone. Because I clean. We regularly. She was like, Oh my gosh, is so clean in here. Thank you. My

David

wife Phaedra has been dreading putting up the Christmas decorations. She dreads it every year because it's such a process. Yeah, ornaments. We're gonna wrap some of them because they're fragile.

Leila

And we're going out of town with my friends this weekend. Right?

David

So Oh, cool. Like, we were going to me and her. We're going to do it this weekend. But I was like, Hey, let's surprise your mom. Let's take it all down. She'll come home from work. She'll be like, Oh, Christmas was put away. And yeah, she sat down. We ate dinner so fast with families

Leila

and kids Great.

David

Totally. Yeah. That's called a throwback. Good job.

Ainsley Costello

You're going with on your trip this weekend.

Leila

I'm going to a convention.

Ainsley Costello

Oh fun times.

David

I know right cosplay convention. I

Leila

was making my love. I know I was talking about in the pre show. Sorry about all my costumes that I made. Are you

Ainsley Costello

going to the big one in Anaheim? No. in California?

Leila

No, not all the way back there. No,

David

that's too many money too many money.

Leila

I wish love to go to a big convention.

David

We the one we went to in July Galaxy con pretty big. It was huge. It had 50,000 attendees.

Leila

It's about as big as Oh, like Momo con. Georgia.

Ainsley Costello

Where was it? Raleigh?

David

Okay. Yeah. Raleigh, North Carolina. Yeah, we're good. We are going to be heading into Tennessee next actually this month. Oh, hopefully. We're gonna go to cookout. What? No,

Leila

we're gonna sit down. Right

David

cool. Central Park. Not cookout Central Park. We used to have Centennial Park. No Central Park. The burger Burger Joint. It's a drive thru burger place.

Ainsley Costello

We used to live here for four years and I don't even know. I

David

don't think I don't think it's I don't think it's a Nashville. I don't think it's a Nashville.

Ainsley Costello

guys coming to Nashville or another place in Tennessee. Another place?

David

I can't remember. It's right over the border from North Carolina. Yeah, but there's a restaurant called Central Park is drive thru only. It's one of those little shack type places. We used to have one here, but it shut down for various reasons. And I was my wife and I were talking about when we were dating, we used to go there a lot because it was super cheap and we were poor. And we were like, you know, early 20s And we were like, We want a big, greasy burger. That's where we would go

Cleveland and we missed it so much. And I was like, I wonder if there's any anywhere nearby. And we found the border. It's about eight and a half, nine hours from us. Yeah, we're just gonna make big we're gonna make sure Yep. Big old field trip to go to Burger but Leila has to experience have

Leila

to apparently you

Ainsley Costello

know, she's kind of have you not had this magical burger yet?

Leila

I think it was shut down before it was shut

David

down about seven years before you were born. It was shut down. I think it was shut down before we met your mom and I got married. So I was 20 years ago. Talking about conventions I'm hoping to go to the pod fest Expo in Florida. I just got to see if we've got the funds for it. Bitcoin just it's been going up so I might just be able to pull a little pull a little bit of that out. Yeah. coffers maybe. Speaking of Bitcoin, did you have any more questions? Nope. Okay, let's go to the

value for value segment. We don't have a jingle. We're gonna prepare you for value

Ainsley Costello

that'll be it forever and ever now. loot.

David

Loot loot. I don't know why that ended up on the soundboard. But it was

Leila

on our woodwind episode. Yes, we looked up what a flute was like the definition of flute and I had the little sound bars next to him. And I was

David

like, what? She thought she was gonna play a sample of flute. But it was just it was the word flute. Because it was like the pronunciation guide, I guess. Yeah. So we only have one boost for the it was for Christmas 2023 episode. And here we go. This is from just listening on fountain 1776 SATs nice and 1776 That's a freedom boost. York City. Oh no.

Ainsley Costello

I did that. Leila just looked at me. And was like,

Leila

like the open mouth emoji.

Ainsley Costello

thing. I was like I found my people talking about it later. It's what it wouldn't blueberry what we were doing the the after show for our Minneapolis shows a couple like last week or so he was saying 1776 from this person from this person. And I had to fight it so hard the whole time not to go New York City for real? I

David

have no idea what you're talking about. Later, so your kids arrive. Wait a minute. Is that from Hamilton? Maybe?

Ainsley Costello

Sorry, I don't have a good poker face.

David

It All right. So from just listening fountain.fm great podcast player. Myself, my wife and my sister went on Christmas lights drive and saw radio sync light show for the first time. Alright, we've talked about that because we've got one down the road from us. Oh, so do I. Those are those are neat. All also we had a lot of fun. Also, It's a Wonderful Life is basically a Marxist critique of capitalism, which the working class of a

town are oppressed by the evil rich guy. And the only person who can save them is the good hearted banker who sacrifices all of his own dreams and passions for the, quote, good of society into quote. That being a fickle, short sighted and generally tractable public Rant over. We love rants. We'd love it.

Leila

It's a Wonderful Life. A Wonderful Life apparently,

Ainsley Costello

just my dad forced me to watch it with him one Christmas, and I'm so sorry. But it was so boring. It was

David

so it's so seen it. It's you're better. You're a better person for never having. Yeah, it's not that terrible. And thank you for so much for the booth. We appreciate that. And that is and we'll also as always want to thank Dred Scott for doing our chapters for us. Appreciate that. Yeah. Jeb is awesome. He's been a He's been our biggest supporter. So how much time that he has a whole system for putting chapters together? Wow. Yep, he's got a whole he's a good flow. But

yeah, so that's our value, right? If you if you get value out of our episodes, consider sending some back use a podcasting 2.0 app, and shoot us a boost. If you need help learning how to do that. Honestly, the easiest ways to get fountain.fm Say look it up or yeah, there's there's a lot there's a lot of stuff out there on it right now. I believe we've done a whole episode on it. Oh, yeah, we did. May have to go into the art Kyle's on the website though. Yeah.

Leila

I think it's called like Umbrella Academy. Umbral Academy.

David

I love because we have a Umbral node. But yeah, thank you. Thank you, everybody and if you you don't have to send value as money we also any kind of artwork you want to send or any any mail. Yeah mail. We love getting mail you can go to the peel box, the support link on the website and send us We love getting postcards and yeah, any kind of cool stuff like that. And also, I found a pack of stickers. Oh, what's the cod

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Leila

dad who won? Who won?

David

Oh, oh, what? It's the first show of the year? Yeah. Get ready. So

Leila

on our on our website, me and him we have very split, like, opinions on which what to call it measuring Weights and Measures system is better. And I say, metric all the way. Because it's better objectively. And he says, Yeah, Imperial just to be different.

David

No, funny not to be different. Yeah, it makes more sense. Based on the human experience.

Leila

What if you haven't had any human experience?

Ainsley Costello

Wait, so the metric system is the one that like the UK uses?

Leila

Yeah, everything makes up for us uses the US the

David

stupid one. No, it's not. Is it's so not stupid. It's so not stupid.

Ainsley Costello

I feel like I've walked into something. Yeah, this is.

David

This is the thing. This is the thing on the store. We have two designs. We have team imperial system. Yeah, miles matter. And we have team metric system beaters matter. Right? Yeah. And we told all of our listeners a couple months ago, and we've kind of reminded them periodically through the last couple months that whichever design sells the most items. Not the most money, but the most is the most each will be the official best measuring system of 2024 or 2023. Determined by

Fun Fact Friday, but here here's the kicker. Whichever person's team loses, has to say out loud on the show that the other system is better. Oh, so are we ready? Are we ready for the final numbers? With 10 items winning the best system Imperial so Leila. No, no.

Leila

Those are outro music sorry. Outro

David

music. So Leila, why don't you tell all of our listeners, which system which measuring is better is the best? You gotta say it. We agreed.

Leila

The imperial system is superior to the metric system. Boom.

David

I'm clipping it. I'm clipping it.

Leila

I do not. I'm Leila and I do not sponsor this message. But you said it. I did say yes. Forced to say it.

Ainsley Costello

And I do not approve.

David

But yes, five items on the metric system side. So now we're gonna we're gonna start it over. As of January 1, we have not had any sales in the shop since you know, New Year's,

Leila

so this will be more fair. And we'll have a full year we'll have a

David

full year and we're gonna win this time. Also, I'm going to try and come up with some more designs because I feel like this has this has legs and we get it out on social media like a zoo saying I guess social media go and about which which one's better get a whole whole fight going.

Ainsley Costello

Is it going to be the same competition again? Imperial versus metric? Yeah,

David

it's gotta be and we're but we got to really play it up this year. We gotta I gotta get some more designs. I might get a good little hope. Maybe I'll find some artists that'll help me come up with some designs. If I can't. I'll see what I can. I can do. I'm not great. But blood viewed already. It's Oh, it's Yeah. And it but my the thing I said a couple episodes ago. I And I've gotten some praise, like had never thought about

like that. There's two kinds of countries in the world. Those that use the metric system, and those that have put a man on the moon just saying, just saying that's if you've had people put them on them but yeah, I think I think we're gonna wrap it up. Ainsley. Why don't you tell us where folks can find it'll be in the show notes I'll get, I'll get the links I'll put in there for you. And you'll be getting a split of any Satoshis that get

donated for this episode. And let us know where we can find your music or any anything else you want to plug. Well,

Ainsley Costello

yeah, well, first, thanks so much for having me on the show. I had such a great time hanging out with you guys. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You can listen to my music on any of the podcasting to Dotto apps on wave lake for sure. And yeah, I mean, just look out for a lot of new music coming in the new year, I've been writing and writing and writing and doing lots of in studio stuff the last year and a half. So I'm really excited for a lot of that music start coming out this year, too.

David

And what I what I like is if like if we wanted to feature one of your songs on our show, we can have it to where while your song is playing all of the the support would go straight to you. It's so cool that like we can awesome yeah, it gets the whole royalty system out of the way, you know, gets all that garbage and makes it to where the people who made the thing get paid. Yeah, unless I decide to put a middleman like Dred Scott gets a cut of all ever every episode because he does

the chapters into Chandra's is hard work. Yeah, I've done chapters for a few of our episodes. And it's a I'm sure once, like drag, he's got a whole system for it. But yeah, just doing it

Leila

one day, and I stopped. And I forgot to save it. And I gave up.

David

Oh, and then go back to where she went to do the chapters one time. And then she was listening to the show on 2x speed. Just looking for points to put the chapters. Yeah. And she had all the times wrong.

Leila

was being stupid. And it was like 15 minutes instead of like 30. So put it it's wrong points.

Ainsley Costello

It wasn't your fault. Leila. It wasn't your fault. Really?

David

No, don't. Nothing's ever your fault, right?

Leila

Yeah,

Ainsley Costello

you can do no wrong. Oh, my goodness.

David

All right. All right, folks. Yeah, check out check out. He's like, go watch the erg. I don't know if you can watch the video on the podcast apps because it was live. I don't know if their video was recorded for the podcast apps. But you can definitely go back and listen to the whole concert. I got mentioned in there. And you know, I got mentioned in the before the scheme's episode, you went on where you read all the boosts? Yeah, I would have sent more my wallet was empty. And I

was like, I went to go, Oh, man. Then I didn't, I'm sorry. I'll boost again. I'll boost again because I was gonna boost more but I only had so much my wallet. Didn't want to refill it at the time. So all right, well, I think that's gonna wrap it up. And we will see y'all next week. We actually have a couple more guests coming on. We've got Elijah more from CW legacies coming on. And we have Rena from Better call daddy podcast. And then we had Oh, who else was going to come on? Oh, that one's

that one's not confirmed yet. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention it. So yeah, everybody have a great weekend. We will see you next week.

Leila

Bye. Bye. Is Kyle gonna be here? Yeah, I

David

think I think Kyle is here. He feels a little betrayed because we have a different guest yes, there. Yes. Oh,

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