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WE WROTE A BOOK!!!

Jan 07, 202547 minEp. 474
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Buy What You Love Without Going Broke is finally here! To celebrate, Jen and Jill share the story behind the book in this latest episode. They discuss everything from the initial inspiration to the nitty-gritty of marketing and promotion. Plus, they share their favorite chapters and the lessons learned along the way. 

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Speaker 1

Episode four seventy four, we wrote a book.

Speaker 2

Welcome to the Frugal Friends Podcast, where you'll learn to save money, embrace simplicity, and live a life here your hosts Jen and Jill.

Speaker 1

Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen, my name is Jill, and today we are celebrating the release of our debut book, Buy What You Love Without Going Broke, and we are doing it with a behind the scenes episode, So you will not learn anything about how to buy what you love without going broke. If you want to do that, you should go back to episode four seventy two titled how to Buy what you

Love that Going Broke. This one is for our frugal friends, and our old frugal friends and new frugal friends who want an inside peak behind the curtains what went down with writing the book.

Speaker 3

So sorry for yelling at you in the beginning, but we also know that if you even chose to listen to this episode.

Speaker 4

You the real deal.

Speaker 1

You know we yell and you.

Speaker 4

Were already prepared for.

Speaker 3

So yeah, this is not going to be an episode where we're giving a ton of tips.

Speaker 1

This is us hanging out. We are interviewing about the process. So if maybe if you are interested in publishing a book, even self publishing a book, you will be really interested in this episode. If you were just interested in Jill and I, you will really like this episode.

Speaker 3

But first, this episode is brought to you by the star her self.

Speaker 1

She is beauty. She is great.

Speaker 3

See one and only buy what you love without going broke.

Speaker 4

Book.

Speaker 3

She's what we're talking about today. She released to the public today. It is January seventh. If you're listening to pass her on the day it releases, it's how we're celebrating. Get her in your hands, Zee, don't already buy what you loovebook dot com. And here's the deal about this, folks, it's out into the world. You're not even pre ordering anymore,

you're just ordering. But also, if you do order this book soon, like within the next couple of days, you would be able to join our final free live event where we are doing an entire spending plan together. We are creating a one year spending plan walking you through the how tos of how to do that. On January twenty ninth, so that's going to be available for all of you who do purchase this book before that date.

Then you also have to fill out the form the same place you're going by what you loovebook dot com. That's where you can pre order the book and it's also where you can fill out this form to get access to that live class. So Jenna and I are going to be live with you all walking you through that. If that sounds like something that could really help you

in the new year, you should do it. And for those of you who can't make it live, but you pre ordered the book and you filled out the form, you'll get access to the recording.

Speaker 1

Yeah, easy peasy. Okay. So we wrote by What you Love Without Going Broke a year ago essentially, and so we have since been promoting it, talking your ear off about it, talking about it in the front letter, and so we are going to interview each other about the process and what you may not have heard us talking about on the show or even on other people's shows.

If you found Frugal Friends from listening to one of the fifty interviews we gave on podcasts, have heard the stuff there either, So we were very excited to share with you. Okay, my first question, Jill, why a book? Why do we need a book when we have a podcast?

Speaker 4

Great?

Speaker 3

Question, Jen, And I'm so glad that you're asking me specifically this question, because here's the real behind the scenes for you.

Speaker 4

This was never my dream, Jill. This is Jill talking.

Speaker 3

I have written things before. I am coming into enjoying reading more and more, but I never had this long term goal or vision of writing a book, but you did, Jen. And here's the thing. I am here to support other people's visions. If I'm just going to talk straight, you know, when people ask about why did you start the podcast? Truly my motivation couple of things, But it was to

help you and to help my husband. He wanted to start a podcast from the ground up and more do the back end audio stuff and be able to get into the podcasting world. And you wanted a marketing arm for your business. And I just wanted to help y'all achieve your visions and your goals. And I was here

for it. And I saw that it could benefit me and learning about a topic that I'm not typically interested in, and or I knew that there were large knowledge gaps for me and that I'd get better on the mic and I'd get better at interviewing people, and so specifically for me, part of it was to support this next goal that you had, and we thought this would probably be better together than a part. This could definitely be a really good launching point off of the podcast. But

then beyond that, like why write a book in general? Yeah, you do have the podcast. I think one of the reasons for me was to solidify this knowledge a little more. To me, I've kind of equated a book as similar to a musician creating an album, Like they have these songs, maybe you've heard them play their songs out, maybe they've put a song out, you know, on the internet for

you to be able to listen to on Spotify. But an album brings cohesion to the musical concepts and is something that can live on It represents a kind of a point in time, but can go beyond you and can be meaningful to other people. So for me, a book has felt like that, like theal lessons of these ideas, the things that we've been talking about in a little bit more of a succinct manner that can benefit others and live beyond us a bit.

Speaker 1

And I'm so glad that you found your own inspiration and motivation for getting on board with the book, because so many have my ideas. You just you kind of you go along with yeah, And I never want to feel like I'm pulling you into something you don't want to be.

Speaker 4

In, because sometimes it happens, I know.

Speaker 1

But it really was like my dream to write a book that is traditionally published. I've self published several books, and I just didn't get the opportunity to take them as seriously as I should have, and I didn't value myself highly enough to value the work that I was putting out. And so for me, this book is the culmination of valuing myself, what I bring to the table, valuing us and the amazing community and product that we

have created over the last seven years. So it was a celebration and also a chance to usher in a new voice in personal finance, because so much of it is about earning money or investing, and if anything is about saving money or spending it, it is a chapter in a book, and it is the ugly step sister to earning and investing. And I love spending money. I love it. I love what it gets me and that

shouldn't be shamed. So the opportunity to reframe that and knowing that there are other voices in the community that are saying that, and if this book does well, then they will have the opportunity to say it again and again in their own voices.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Felt like a responsibility and a gift.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I think when we talk about contentment versus complacency, like we are content and what we're doing, but we also have goals of growth and things that we want to grow inside of ourselves as a business, more things we want to offer to our community.

Speaker 4

And this is a part.

Speaker 3

Of that expansion that you know, it can be for some people if they desire it, a natural next step. And you know, even though our podcasts are close to an hour long, it's still just a snippet. And I think a book allows you to really take a reader on a journey and expand upon concepts in a more kind of sit down time that you can really digest this information, make it your own, ask yourself questions, start

to implement. I think that a book can solidify action steps, possibly for the more long term than potentially like a singular.

Speaker 1

Podcast episode could.

Speaker 3

Yeah, okay, question for you, Jen, what was the writing process? Like?

Speaker 1

I loved the writing process. We had a year to write it, and we wrote it in three months at the very last three months, which every other writer I've ever talked to has done the same exact thing, And we wrote a good portion of it and then realized it needed to be different, so we rewrote it again.

Speaker 4

Like that was not my favorite.

Speaker 1

I felt super strongly about how it should make me feel. I run on vibes, and the vibes weren't it, and we just needed to rewrite it and reformat it until the vibes were it, and they are it now. It was worth it. And we butt heads on some of the ways that we wanted to say things, but like if you listen to the show, we come from different backgrounds say the same thing in different ways, and that's the magic. In a podcast, that's a lot easier to do than in a print book, So we had to

navigate that. But like, this was a fantastic Like the writing process was fantastic for us because it solidified what we're doing and where we want to like, how we want to do it going forward.

Speaker 4

Can you remember specific portions where there was some of that rub and how we say things?

Speaker 1

Chapter three? Chapter three was the bane of our existence.

Speaker 3

Yeah, for both of us for sure. Yeah, Yeah, Chapter three was a rough one. We kind of knew what we wanted to say, but we also knew we needed to say more on it.

Speaker 4

And we didn't know how.

Speaker 3

I think one experience the most difficult parts for me was adhesion throughout. I think whenever people would ask me about, like, how's the writing process going, how's the book coming along, It's like I felt as though each chapter could stand on its own, and I actually still feel that way. Yeah, in some ways, we wrote each chapter as if we could pull that chapter out and do a whole podcast series on it. We have mm hm or you know, put it together. And that has been my biggest concern

is how are these transitions going? What is the journey that the person's taking. Does it make sense that this is the order that they're going in? And Chapter three really felt like a pivotal chapter of taking you from how to identify what you love into how to say no to what you don't? But how do we help the reader get there? So super important chapter just really struggled with it. I made the joke along the way, I'm like, wouldn't it be so great if this became

our favorite chapter? Because it had been just this total rub the whole time. I still don't I think it's either one of our not our favorite chapter, but it is.

Speaker 1

It's really so much better. Yeah it's good, it's good, but it's definitely like, you know, not our favorite one.

Speaker 3

What's a necessary chapter. Not every chapter is the best chapter, but they're all necessary.

Speaker 1

It's your favorite chapter.

Speaker 3

So this is different for both of us. There's so many good ones. I like snippets in each one. But I think I realized when we were reading the audio book, I think chapter nine is my favorite. You've got to get through most of the book to get there. But as I was reading aloud the concepts, it was almost counseling myself reading it back because we wrote this. We finished writing this back in May, and then we read the book aloud for the audiobook in November, so we

really didn't look at it. You know, we kind of just like left it. I know, we have the editing team, you can't change anything else, so you just got to let it go. So it was kind of like coming back to it with a fresh perspective and reading it aloud, and I think that really drove home for me. And maybe it has to do with like the particular season that I'm in right now too, Chapter nine. So it's

contentment over complacency. So it's a lot of kind of how we approach and think about money, the narrative that we tell ourselves, what we can do with some of the regrets that we might have, how we move forward, how we identify are enough, how we practice gratitude. So kind of more of these like cerebral concepts that just felt like balm to me currently.

Speaker 1

I would say for me ten. Yeah, So it's the final chap should be. If it's not for you, I'm gonna make it yours. It's outside. So we've got an intro and then the first three chapters are Part one. Then and we've got Part two and then Part three, and then chapter ten is outside of that, and it's definitely my favorite, though I think Part three, while it is the least sexy of the chapters, it has the fewest action steps, But I believe it will be the

most life changing for people. I do believe that if you get to Part three and you apply it not just to spending, but everything else in your life, it will be transformative.

Speaker 3

It's funny because we did write the book in some parts assuming that people aren't going to read past the first chapter.

Speaker 4

We were like, we really.

Speaker 3

Need to make this good because many people don't continue reading it. But yeah, our favorites are the final two chapters, So make it through.

Speaker 4

Make it through.

Speaker 5

Thing.

Speaker 4

It's not a good It.

Speaker 1

Is not a long book. It's the thing. We didn't make it a novel because we wanted you to be able to get through it in a month. We want book clubs to do this book, and we want everyone to be able to get through it in one month so that you can talk about it with your group, and so it's paced well in order to do that. All right, what has been what's the promotion process been like in your words?

Speaker 4

Jill horrific.

Speaker 3

Wow, that's not what I wanted to hear. Hey, we're bere and all right. I'm being honest. I am not a marketer.

Speaker 4

You all know this.

Speaker 3

I don't care for marketing, just as an idea, a concept, and then to market yourself.

Speaker 4

It has felt very self.

Speaker 3

Promotion and while and I've had to shift some things in my thinking in that I truly do think this book is going to help people, and that helped me in promoting it. But still like the the tactics behind marketing and trying to get people to buy something and sell them on an idea. I just don't like it. I feel like people are smart, they know what they want. They want to buy something, they're going to buy it. They don't want to buy it, They're not going to

buy it. Like I don't want to over influence people. It doesn't feel like congruent and in part maybe even ethical. So I just I'm not a fan of it. I don't care for marketing. But we have had to kind of get into the minds of people to be able to say yes to having us on their podcasts, and how would you know, TV stations and radio networks what would they want.

Speaker 4

To hear in order to say yes to us? So it feels like I have to.

Speaker 3

Tap into a part of me that I don't want to like. I don't want to learn how to do that. I just either want people to be interested in the message or not. So it's not been I've not loved it, but there's an end insight.

Speaker 4

How about you.

Speaker 1

I've loved it.

Speaker 4

You are very good at marketing.

Speaker 1

Well, because I believe so strongly in the message, and we don't market products like we don't sell a lot of things. We talk about some things that we use that we love, and we have a lot of affiliate links for those things, but we don't heavily market anything. And I think I just love the message in this book and to have somebody And I think the book almost the title sell it sells itself, which I love. I think if you can do a few things right

in marketing, it's eighty twenty role. You do twenty percent of things right, eighty percent of your marketing is done for you. And I have enjoyed talking to my friends. I have so many podcaster like host friends, so it's felt like I get a almost a coffee date with a friend and then also get the added bonus of having them talk about my book, and my book gets to help their audience. So I have loved marketing this book.

Coming up with ideas, innovating, getting creative is really where I find like my fulfilling work because I want to use the marketer's game against them. I wrote the chapter on marketing and how the how Edward Burnet's and manufactured desire like all that that was me. That was my chapter, and it makes me so happy to use their game against them to not manipulate, but educate and use an ethical form of marketing and kind of reframe marketing to be ethical. So I have loved it.

Speaker 3

And we're two different people. Okay, Jen, you have written other books before, but you've self published. This is the first time that you have traditionally published a book and it's this one, the one that we've done together. What have you found to be the difference between this traditionally publishing and self publishing.

Speaker 1

So it's a lot slower process. When I self published, I was able to get Idea to Amazon in three months, So it has been a slower process and I'm actually thankful for that. I've enjoyed this process ninety percent of the time. Yeah, it's been great to have a lot of other eyes on the book, so an editor, a copy editor, proofreaders. It's been great to have somebody else in pr to do their to make a quasi effort in promoting our book, even though we did ninety percent

of it. And it's been great to have distribution. It's costing us money, but actually in the long run, I think it will be more. It'll make us more money with like other things, other doors that it opens up that self publishing just doesn't give you the credibility I guess in there's so many pros and cons as a content creator, traditional publishing really can establish us in these

traditional outlets. I think if we came from a more traditional corporate background, we would need the legitimacy that traditional publishing might offer us. But I think it is again, I kind of did this to validate to myself that what we've built is bigger than ourselves, and so that

has been it. But I still believe in self publishing and would take I'd love to help people who are self publishing and traditionally publish it published market their books better because there's so much gap with people who are very successful but did not market their books well and people who have self published and done really well or could do really well but are just missing like some marketing pieces. So if you're interested in that, reach out

to me, because I'm thinking about it. Nice Jill, what has been your favorite part of this whole experience.

Speaker 4

I'm going to say two things. Okay, okay, of thanks.

Speaker 3

So the first is it was so fun to have publishers fight over us with money. Had was my favorite part. I think we talked about this on a recent episode. Actually you've heard me say this already, but we so with a traditional publishing route. We wrote a proposal first, so it included some sample chapters of the book. It included kind of an overview of what it's about, who it's for, a marketing plan, our platform, how we're going.

Speaker 1

To talk, how much. It was like eighty pages.

Speaker 3

It was dense, it was long, and so we did hire an agent and that agent helped get us in front of some of these publishers, and we had three traditional publish four.

Speaker 1

We had four publishers interested who wanted to back it up with money. Yeah, So what happens in that circumstance when there's multiple people, multiple publishers interested in a book, in buying a book is what they're doing even though the book isn't written yet. They it goes to auction, so they have a certain amount of time to give their bid on the book, and it includes money, it includes other terms as well, kind of other benefits that

you might receive in the process. And so thankfully we were able to go with the highest bid because we also loved that editor and publisher the most too. It was our favorite kind of conversation and meeting that we had, we felt like our editor really understood the book. She is kind of our target demographic, which has been really fun to also get fresh eyes on the content and be able to say like, yes, this makes sense, No, this doesn't give more examples, say more more stories.

Speaker 4

Yeah's a big thing. Yeah.

Speaker 3

So that was really fun and I think one of those kind of core validation moments for me throughout the span of how this business and doing this together, that felt like WHOA Outside of you and I, there's people who are seeing this message, wanting it, believing in it so much that they're willing to invest in it. And then beyond that, I have had a lot of fun

in this stage of the book as well. I think while I don't care for the marketing, what I'm talking about is the reaching, like the cold pitching that to

me has been the worst. But talking about the book to our Frugal Friends community and in being on interviews about it and you know, explaining it more through our own podcast has meant spending more time together, like you and I have been in person a lot, more on a lot more podcasts, and that engagement in interaction and finding new ways to talk about these concepts and seeing how it's connecting with people. You know, those moments when you're talking with someone and a concept just kind of

like clicks and it sparks more ideas. That's been happening a ton as the result of this content, and so I think, yeah, I've really enjoyed more time with you, like I've been noticing, I feel like more alive recently. I feel like not as kind of just like ho hum, I feel a bit rejuvenated. I feel kind of like inspired. And I think it's because we're kind of out of that like dark, quiet phase of the book and into

now we can talk about it. It makes sense to talk about it, and we can be having these really crucial conversations with people and be helping others with the book, and we're starting to see what it's creating and what it's doing.

Speaker 4

And that's been very fun.

Speaker 1

Yes, okay, so yeah, the auction happened on my birthday and that was also my favorite thing. And then we went out to a Mexican restaurant and got a picture of Margarita's and chips and salsa and queso and guac, and that was sure.

Speaker 4

Did the Margarita was your favorite part?

Speaker 1

The Margarita was my favorite part. Yeah. The multi six figure book deal was fantastic, but the marg did it.

Speaker 3

And to be clear that that money is paying over the span of like two.

Speaker 1

Three years, three years, yeah, and split between two people and our agent. Yes, it goes quick. Split between three people, spread over three years. So that's that's fun.

Speaker 4

That's why we really need you to buy it.

Speaker 1

Yes, yeah, so yeah, I would say my favorite part has been the interviews as well. Again just like being able to catch up with people and talk about the thing that I love most is so life giving. Yeah, like this has felt so purposeful. Oh yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Okay, what's next?

Speaker 1

Ooh Margarita? Probably I know truly.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the book just came out today, like we can we can celebrate that a little bit.

Speaker 1

Picture. So I would love to do more speaking, like public speaking. Yes, probably do a little bit more writing, like on the internet now that I am, you know, like I can write about this more than I talk about it, but I still love talking about it. And instead of doing podcasts, I would love to do public

speaking whatever that looks like in person or virtual. But yeah, so if you have any conferences where you think I would like to hear Jen speak at the conference I go to, then send me, send me that way.

Speaker 4

We are speaking tonight actually, yeah.

Speaker 1

The night when we're recording this, we're speaking tonight at NERD Night, which is like a nerdy ted Talk style event.

Speaker 4

I'm excited for it. Same yeah for me.

Speaker 3

I when we've been talking about this a lot, like, Okay, where do we go from here? This feels like such a big milestone and how do we continue to make meaning out of this milestone? And how do we build upon the foundation that we're we continue to builder. How do we keep building? I guess? And one of the things that I keep coming back to is how life

giving the podcast is. I really love doing this. Unfortunately, or fortunately however you want to look at it, it in and of itself doesn't generate, you know, the revenue that we would need to keep going.

Speaker 1

We appreciate you listening to the advertisers on the show. That is what funds the show.

Speaker 3

It's the only thing that fund the show. And we don't want to hawk products to you and we don't want you to have to pay for content like I am.

Speaker 4

I'm the same, I'm the same as you. I don't.

Speaker 3

I'm not a subscription person, like I have a couple, but you know, I'm not going to pay for every podcast that I listened to for better or worse. It's just kind of like how we have the system we've all created that we do expect to get this content for free. And you know what, I love helping people like truly it fuels me. So I want to keep doing this, but also recognizing it's good to have goals beyond that, it's good to also be able to like find ways to monetize so that you can keep doing

the thing that you love. So all that to say, though, what's next is continuation, Like I don't want to stop the podcast. If anything, we might even be considering a third We.

Speaker 1

Have talked about maybe doing like like a Sunday episode that's more personal.

Speaker 3

Yeah, like a Sunday reset kind of thing. Yeah, I have. I'm also considering recently doing like providing like financial therapy, so being able to blend, because I've found a lot of enjoyment in that being able to blend both now my gained personal finance knowledge with my mental health background.

Speaker 1

I love that.

Speaker 3

Blend, but it's it's curious to me too. I mean, of course, if you're listening we are, assuming you're like the top one percent fans of the show, I would be so curious to hear from you all, what do you want from us next? I know you haven't read the book yet, so that'll probably be helpful, you know, read the book and then maybe respond. But even what you know of us so far, what more would you want from us?

Speaker 1

I know, Jenny, you would be willing to pay money for that's the big Yeah, well, or support in the monetization of.

Speaker 3

That is part of it. But I also think that there are things people could want that could generate money in and of themselves that like isn't costing them money all the time, So I mean it could even if it means like more video or content about this or yeah, I do actually want help in this area, and you're the people that I would want that help from. But yeah, I mean, if you are a person who pays for subscriptions, like, yeah, let us know that too.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but maybe we're wrong, right yeah right, so yeah, but I think, yeah, the reason I want to do more speaking is I'd like to take money from people with large budgets that's who I would like to pay me.

Speaker 3

So yeah, but i'd be curious, what do you guys want to see from us next year? You have any ideas after hearing about kind of where we've come from, where we currently are, where we're thinking we want to go, let us know your thoughts.

Speaker 1

So you are the ones that told us how where to take the book. So this is a story that I don't think we've shared on the podcast. But we spent five thousand dollars on a book coach to help us write the proposal. And when we got back, I had about one hundred note cards with notes on them, and I put them all up and I was like, this isn't the book. Like it just I mean, this isn't the book. She's worked with, you know, best selling authors, she knows what sells. But this ain't it for us.

This isn't the vibe.

Speaker 3

So I'm like having flashbacks to all those note cards up. I know your closet doors and I and we asked you, yeah, what's the thing.

Speaker 1

That we've talked about that has changed your life the most? And one hundred percent of you said values based spending. It wasn't a contest and that's how we can That's that's how we came up with the book. So we value your opinions.

Speaker 3

Well, you know something that we came up with entirely on our own, before we even have people's opinions to ask.

Speaker 1

Y'all didn't helped this at all.

Speaker 3

We've kept it the the bill of the week.

Speaker 2

That's right, it's time for the best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name is William.

Speaker 3

Maybe you paid off your.

Speaker 2

Mortgage, maybe your car died and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore.

Speaker 1

Dust bills, Buffalo bills, Bill Clinton, this.

Speaker 3

Is the bill of the week.

Speaker 5

Hey, Jen and Jill, this is Jill my bill of the week. Last week, I received al insurance bill that was thirty dollars lower than I was expecting, and I was over the moon because of the savings. So for those folks out there that are kind of self sufficient, like I never thought I would do any kind of charity or any kind of benefit, any kind of that stuff. I did apply for help with health insurance premiums and it came through, and for some reason they have actually

increased the benefit. So please don't be a shamed ask for that kind of help because nobody expected health insurance to get as crazy as it has. I enjoyed the show so much. Thank you guys so much for sharing this, and thanks a lot by bye Jill, Jill.

Speaker 3

It's fun to meet a fellow Jill. I don't meet many in my life, so I feel connected.

Speaker 1

Well, you know, I saw this and I was like, I wonder if Jill recording. I was like, I have expected you to be the one to be this.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3

Yeah, this is a great one, not only to have a lowered bill, but also this encouragement that you're giving us to look into the different benefits, apply to see if you know, maybe you're eligible to receive some of these discounts. If the discounts exist and you qualify for them, then they're there for you. And I think you know you're right in a time when some of our costs are just astronomical and feel untenable. Absolutely, we've got to take advantage of all of the resources available to us.

So well done even taking the time to look into these benefits, educate yourself on them, apply for them. You know, we're not always guaranteed, but I am celebrating with you that you got this lowered. Sometimes just maintaining our costs can be all that we can hope for.

Speaker 4

You know, many are.

Speaker 3

Increasing, so to even experience a decrease is such a win.

Speaker 1

Yeah. I was talking to a business owner the other day who was very into tax loopholes and tax strategies to lower their tax taxable income, and I was like, does it kind of like feel cool but wrong because people with W two incomes cannot? And I won't share her opinion because I don't. I didn't really agree, but it got me thinking, like for the middle class, like we feel some shame trying to like ask for help and lower you know, stuff like that, like you know,

health insurance. But I mean everybody else out there is trying to lower their premiums, their taxes, all that, not feeling any shame. And so this is this is what we have available to us. Not all of us are business owners who can you know, use tax loopholes to lower stuff. But you can do what you can, and if you don't know what you can do, you can try. So well done, Jill.

Speaker 4

Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 3

If you all are listening, you have a bill that you want to submit, if it's an encouraging bill, if it's a bill about utilizing resources or lowering bills or bills you don't mind paying for bills. Who are out here paying their bills for agal friendspodcast dot com slash bill. We can't wait to hear it. And now it's time for the lightning around you.

Speaker 1

All right? If you told your twelve year old self that you wrote a book, what would they think it was about?

Speaker 4

Oh, I don't know, what were you into at twelve.

Speaker 1

Youth group? Yeah, so I probably would have thank some kind of like Christian nonfiction, which this is not by an East much of the means. Uh so that's probably it. It's not that. Nope, not at all. There are no curse words in it. I will say that. Huh yeah, so that's about That's what I will give it. I'll give it that.

Speaker 3

What do you think your reaction would be if you told your twelve year old self you wrote a personal finance book.

Speaker 1

I think I would be not shocked. Okay, yeah, I don't think I would be shocked. I would definitely always in the non fiction genre. I think that is where I was always meant to be. I am you will not see me writing any fairy and dragon smut. Nope, not there. I love it, I love reading it, but like, that's too much outside of what I know.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, that didn't even occur to me. Would it?

Speaker 3

Would I have assumed it was fiction or nonfiction. I think my mind immediately went to nonfiction.

Speaker 4

But my twelve year old self.

Speaker 3

The world I was living in, probably either like, yeah, I wrote I wrote a mystery novel, or I thought I would have thought that I wrote a like how to Become an Actress book.

Speaker 1

Oh wow.

Speaker 3

As a young child, that was a goal of mine, like I want to become an actor by the time I'm thirteen.

Speaker 1

Wow, gave yourself a goal.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And then the closer I got to thirteen, I kept being like, it hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 4

Ever going to happen?

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, I was like big into drama and theater and such. So probably either of those two genres would have been my thought. If he would have said it's about money, i'veably have been like, oh, I become too.

Speaker 4

I also would have been wrong.

Speaker 1

Yes, Well, thank you so much for listening. I hope that you enjoyed this. Behind the scenes of writing by what you love without going broke, And I also hope that if you enjoy our show, if you support us, that you would take twenty five dollars out of your budget to buy a copy of the book. It would support us so greatly. Whether you keep it for yourself or give it as a gift, it just supports us

so much. If we have any chance of making a bestseller list, it's all comes down to the purchases made within the next few days, and we would love to see what kind of doors that would open for us. So thank you and thank you so much. If you have purchased or for listening. We would love if you would leave us a review of the book, if you have pre ordered it, or if you already have left a review of the book, maybe a review of the podcast, like this one from Georgie cam that says life changing.

It's five stars, and they say this year has been financially challenging for me based on changes in my commission based retail job. It's caused me to feel very helpless and frustrated. I recently was introduced to the podcast through another favorite farmhouse on Boone and I have I've been burning through these episodes ever since I've learned so much behind the psychology of spending and I feel so empowered.

I've struggled in the past to spend less than I earned because my income fluctuates months a month, but I am now headed in the right direction. I do, however, take personal offense when they make jobs at the Ninja Creamy and its lack of importance in the kitchen, as it is one of my most prized possessions. But I know now that with values based spending, that was a gadget well worth it to me. Thanks Jen and Jill. Love listening to you guys. This is so great.

Speaker 3

Georgie can thank you for you know, calling us out on Yeah, I'm Georgie, I will tell I the other day thought about getting a Ninja creamy, and I was like, oh my god, I've made so many ninja creamy jokes.

Speaker 1

I can't possibly but I was thinking about it because I saw some pretty good recipes. But like, maybe over the summer I'll just get one on Facebook marketplace and try it out. Maybe it too will become one of my most prized possessions.

Speaker 3

Again, I love it when I hear where people have come from, like how they heard about us. And then we've been having so many reviews lately that are giving such tangible examples of the way that the podcast has helped them, which tells me that maybe we're coming into like our era, like truly, truly, we've found our voice, and I think.

Speaker 1

The book helped us get there.

Speaker 3

I know it to really solidify kind of our current messaging and how we want to say it. And then to hear it's just so heartwarming. Isn't quite the right word. I don't know what it is, but it gratify were meaningful to realize, Oh man, you've actually made some big beneficial strides in your lifestyle and actions and decision making around money which will benefit you for the long term. You did that, well done. We are just so floored

to get to be a part of that. So anyways, thank you for that in depth review, and if you all haven't reviewed the show yet, we would be so grateful if you did. You don't have to be as wordy. You don't have to tell us all of the things, but if you've got kind of specific examples, we love that.

Speaker 1

Or be wordier. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3

You all wherever you're listening to the podcast, review the book all of it helps us.

Speaker 4

We appreciate you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Frugal Friends is produced by Eric Siria. Okay, what are we doing to celebrate tonight or tomorrow? Because I know we're going over the next few days, we're going to go to all the Barnes and Nobles and

the Tampa Bay area and sign books. So if you're in the Tampa Bay area and have not purchased a book yet, or you just want a signed copy and you want to return your book that you bought and buy one aside the companies, I don't know, I not the gal I don't know if you could do that, but we're going to go sign in Tampa, Panels and Sarasota, all the books at every Barnes and Noble and Books a million.

Speaker 3

We'll keep that updated on Instagram like where we are. But also feel free to reach out to us and let us know where you want us to show up. Yeah, if you're in the area, we could see if we could make it there.

Speaker 1

So we're going to do that. We've got our event event at Tumbolo Books in Saint Petersburg on January fourteenth. That's going to be fun Q and a reading high fiving.

Speaker 4

We're having a party on the eighteenth at my house.

Speaker 1

That's in private though.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3

I'm just saying, Okay, we're doing how we're celebrating. Hopefully there's going to be event, an event in Pennsylvania. We don't have a date solidified. Again, we'll keep our Instagram.

Speaker 1

By the time this comes out, we will have fun for sure.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's just our Instagram will.

Speaker 1

Tell you so. But I really do think we need to get Margs. Yeah, a picture of Margs, A whole picture, a whole picture, lots of salt. Yeah, I love that salt. Well, I'm loving the salt life and I am consuming sodium.

Speaker 4

Perfect

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